I haven't really looked at any modern maths papers. When I sat my Higher (Scottish A-Level) maths in the mid-80's you were allowed a blunt pencil and if you were lucky, a ruler.
About 6 years ago I decided to return to university and take a software engineering degree. I was shocked by the standard of the maths from those who had just left school.
In fact it was/is on of the biggest problems facing the university. In 4 out of the 5 years of the degree there were always maths based classes, because of this the drop out rate was high.
I think you are missing the point. As you state the BBC is a public service, it's funded by an enforced license payment (if you own a television or radio it is a criminal offense not to have a license) So in theory I have already paid for the content, if the iPlayer goes ahead in it's current format then I, like many others, are being locked out of content for which they have already paid for. This hardly seems fair.
You cannot draw a comparison between 4OD, Sky and the BBC. The first two are commercial entities, and neither are funded by a "tax" I can choose to pay for sky. C4 get generates its revenue from adverts. I am strongly against DRM, so all I can do in those cases if refuse to use their services.However by law I am mandated to pay for the service the BBC offers. So I wish to make full use of it.
I am tired of having my Englishness subsumed into some ephemeral "Britishness" whilst the national identity of Wales and Scotland is actively promoted by the Scottish Occupation Government of Blair, Brown, Reid, etc.
Whilst I have nothing against the other constituent nations of the UK, the sooner we English get independence, the better.
I for one, being Scottish, hope that you do in fact achieve independence, and quickly. Then you can just bugger off and give us all a rest from your jingoistic bullshit.
I remember when I graduated college in 2001 (shortly after fall of dot.com boom), there were lots of jobs available but most wanted someone with at least 2 years experience or a 3.5+/4.0 GPA. I had neither. I did have about 1 year experiance as an application programmer job for students paying a measly $7/hour. Fortunately, that provided just enough professional experiance neccessary to get my foot in the door after applying at what seemed like a hundred different companies.
I am lucky enough to be studying Software Engineering at a good university in the UK.
As part of my degree I am required to take a year long industry placement.
While many of my peers went to large companies such as Sun, Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley I ended up working for a very small company indeed.
I must admit I was bitter about this at first, after all when I leave uni I think it would be good to have a year long placement with a company like Sun on your resume.
However I have changed my mind, working in a small development team means that I actually get more all round experience. Let me explain-
We have no system admins, so when it came time to set up some type of SCM, it was down to me to review the options and then set up and maintain the repositories. So I now have a better understanding of how CVS and Subversion work.(I have also spent a lot of time learning and then trying to implement 'good software engineering practices'.)
We run many different OS's - Windows, OS X and Linux (on both x86 and PPC) I have had to become familiar with all the different hardware and operating systems. Although i am certainly not an expert I can certainly find my way around the different machine.
We use various languages so I am not tied to one technology, so far I have used PHP5, Java,.NET, C and Ruby.
The company allows me time off to work on open source projects. This is certainly a good thing for me, on many levels. It shows to potential employers that you have an interest in your craft, rather than turning up 9-5 and collecting your check.
Finally my year long project involves building a telephony system (using asterisk, Postgres, Java and PHP) for a new customer service centre. This is critical to their business and I feel as if I am being given important tasks, and not just there to make the tea. Overall I feel as if I will come out of this placement with a good range of experience and with something to offer future employers.
Ah Bob's Big Boy. Got to love it. I am in a weird situation where I spent 8 months of the year in Glasgow (UK) and the rest in LA.
I have a list of places to go when I arrive in LA and that is near the top. Tommy's used to be on it as well, but IMHO they have went downhill.
All I want in life is a Coffee Bean and Tea Leaf and a Fatburger to open in Glasgow though. Oh and possibly a branch of The Hat. Now that would make for a messy keyboard.
Great,
I think i just put on 10lbs looking at that.
I like In-N-Out but if you want a good quality burger you got to head to Fatburger. Their Turkey Burger on Brown is the dogs bollocks*
*I would just like to point out that it is not in fact made out of dogs bollocks (then it would be a bollocks burger) this is a British term for very good.
It's like an electrician setting your house on fire due to some dodgy wiring, and then offering to sell you a fire extinguisher as your house burns down.
Hmmm, being an ex british army officer I have a certain sympathy with the soliders involved.
if
the car was speeding towards their position in excess of 50mph
if
the driver was not paying attention
if
they had a spotlight and laser shone onto them.
However those are an awful lot of if's.
It seems to be split into 2 main camps here. Those that believe the soliders because they are American, and those who don't believe them for exactly the same reason.
You say you don't blame the soliders, thats because you believe what the report says, and dismiss the Italian version, I think that's naive at best.
I think the truth lies somewhere in the middle ground.
It's actionable when government makes laws abridging the freedom of speech.
I am not American, and therefore do not have anymore than a basic unterstanding of the constitution. However I fail to see why this is an issue of freedom of speech.
Freedom of choice YES. The ruling majority forcing their own standards onto their citizens. YES.
There are many things which I don't agree with. Doesn't mean I want to stop other people from doing them. AFAIK pornography is legal in the US. So while the state may be unhappy that it's service may be used for looking at such, there is very little they should be able to do about it. Some may argue that minors may be able to view porn, but that doesn't wash either. You cannot protect the rights of some people by taking away the (legal) rights of others.
No, what makes Komodo unique here is the fact it doesn't run under OSX. Perhaps you missed the point of this thread!
Eclipse is fully extendable, for example it's only a matter of time before a python plug-in is released. In fact I know people who are working on one. FWIW Eclipse also has a PHP plug in and an XSLT, oh wait there is also a Tcl option.
While I use KDevelop for C/C++ it also can be used for Ada, Objective-C (via C support), SQL, Fortran, Haskell, Java, Pascal,Python, Ruby, Bash, XUL
While Zend Studio only handles PHP it does it well. It's the only IDE (so far) with PHP5 and it's features make it indespensible for PHP developers.
These products are also cheap (read free) which is important whe you are a student. .
I used Java C/C++ as examples because thats what I use them for. But these IDE's offer much more.
To be honest even if Komodo released a OSX version I very much doubt I would use it, I am more than happy with my current choices.
I looked at Komodo, I even tried it. Didn't like it at all. Although to be fair it was an earlier version, but I found it clumsy and cluttered.
Another problem I have is I use multiple OS's (Solaris at university) OSX and Linux at home. So I really want an Application that can be used in all of the above. Preferably with the ability to export/import projects.
Java - Eclipse
C/C++ - KDevelop*
PHP - Zend Studio
If 3000 lines of dense mathematically rich C were checked in and a dozen lines acted in concert to create a miscalculation, how much expertise would be needed to catch that?
Um...I wouldn't think that much. Isn't that the point of Black Box testing. You plug a value in, you know what should come out the other side. If the values don't match well you have a problem.
Yes you are right, and in future I will make sure that all my posts are grammatically correct just so wankers like you, with nothing better to do, don't go off on one.
Because you lot (I'm assuming you're a Brit due to the BBC link, and I apologize if I am wrong) sent all of the Puritans over here in the 1600's. Thanks heaps. It's been a pantload of fun dealing with the screwed up morality they've left us.
The tiral, for obsenity, in the UK of Penguin publishers for the book Lady Chatterley's Lover.
The prosecution arguement was simple, what would happen if a minor was to read this book.
If his ruling, in favour of the defence, the noted that it would be a sad day if any country was to base it's censorship laws around what a 14 year old girl might think.
To me that is the way the US is going. Not so much from a 14 year olds POV but from a christian right POV. Both should be avoided at all costs.
Moore didn't bother to mention England, Poland, or Spain because the administration has mentioned them dozens of times. His point was that the grand coalition numbers of countries included a number of countries who actually had nothing to contribute but lip service.
Ok off topic, so let the flamewar begin, but i dont care. First of all, open a fucking atlas. Or look at a globe. England didn't send troops. The United Kingdom did, which is made up of more than a single country FFS.
On saying that it's not something I am proud to admit to. Being a scot living in the US I really despair at how things are turning out.
What i see are your basic freedoms being chipped away at day after day. What so normally sane people say, "We need this to prevent/fight terrorism."
This is why people like Michael Moore are so important to this country. They offer a voice against whats happening in the name of "freedom"
That's Moore's claim. However, his original version was that Disney killed the film because Jeb Bush would try to take away Disney's tax breaks on DisneyWorld in Florida... that's nice, but no such tax breaks exist for them to lose.
Tax breaks perhaps not.
Hmmm. I wonder if it could have something to do with the fact that Florida gave Disney 100 million to build a new theme park (job creation, tourism benefits) which Disney promptly closed because it wasnt making money.
Which technically means they need to pay back the money. Of course I am sure Jeb, could be more relaxed about when and how the money is paid back, just stay on his good side. Hmmmm I wonder how they could do that?
Comparing Microsoft to Drug dealers is a bit harsh, as far as I know a Microsoft product has never killed anyone through over use*. Although the stress of running the OS is probably enough to enduce a stroke or at the very least a heart attack in some people.
[*Disclaimer: Although i am not ruling that possibility out]
However some people may argue that there are comparisons.
Microsoft viciously guard their terriority. Any major reseller that tried to ship a system without a windows OS installed would feel the wrath of Redmond. It's just the MS way of sending Joey and the boys round.
Microsoft first offers you an OS (let's call it XP Home) this is great to begin with. It does everything you need, but one day you realise that it's just not enough. You need more. As luck would have it, there is a better[sic] version out there and all you need to do is open up your wallet.
But wait it's still not enough you need a decent word processor, perhaps a spreadsheet. You have heard about a few other suppliers, Open Source and the FSF. Should you get something from them, you don't know. MS say there "stuff" is like a cancer. You dont want that, no you better head off to MS, with your wallet wide open again, for your fix.
Don't worry they say, you are a good customer. You have done the right thing, by coming back, they have the perfect thing for you. Sure the office application is 3 times the price of the OS, but it's worth every penny. How can you afford it, you really need it though. After all there are no other options MS told you so, and they wouldnt do anything to a "good customer". You go home, get your DVD and video player and head to the pawn shop. It's still not enough, so you go back for your cooker. OMG it's still not enough, you start to search down the back of the sofa and in the pockets of your trousers. You need this, and you have to get it no matter what, if only there was a granny you could mug, that would get you the money you need.
Now you have the money, and your fix of MS product. But you are starting to have your doubts, the product seems impure. Every week you see your other MS using friends come down with some type of illness. Some of them even lost it all, and had to re-install. But it's just must be them, there is no way your friend and supplier would sell you anything that was less than 100% .
Then it happens, something goes wrong. You panic, call your dealers tech support. Don't worry they say, there is a problem but it's not our fault. You see it's these nasty people, they dont like us, so they try to attack us, (and they are clever). There is a solution they tell you, go to this address. Oh bring some ID cos they can't give this out to everyone. When you get there they will supply you with some packages. Install them, about you will be fine.
But your not happy, you decide to change supplier. You tell your original supplier this. Don't go they say you are making a mistake. Ours is a better product. No you insist you want to break the habit. Hold on they say, how about they reduce the cost of the product.......
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I do agree with you, my original point was simply that we shouldnt soley rely on Hardened PHP, while it is a move forward, it still is no substitute for good practice.
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a person who is asked to make a wheel fairing in three minutes using simple hand tools will make far more mistakes than one who has a dedicted stamping machine.
Not really sure I understand. Surely a better way would be to train the person, rather than build in safeguards just in case they produce something that is faulty ( a likely event)
even the most experienced PhP programmer can make an error. education helps, but fixing the system is a better idea.
Which is why education is so important, let's move away from syntax/coding and look at testing/evaluation. Critical points in your system, for example user input, must be throughly tested. Sections of your code that could produce an error must be allowed to recover if this happens. Does it do something it shouldn't...the list goes on.
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it's certainly a step in the right direction, however as most vulnerabilitiesseem to come about as a result of poorly written code shouldn't the community be trying to educate newer (and some more experienced) PHP users.
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I haven't really looked at any modern maths papers. When I sat my Higher (Scottish A-Level) maths in the mid-80's you were allowed a blunt pencil and if you were lucky, a ruler.
About 6 years ago I decided to return to university and take a software engineering degree. I was shocked by the standard of the maths from those who had just left school.
In fact it was/is on of the biggest problems facing the university. In 4 out of the 5 years of the degree there were always maths based classes, because of this the drop out rate was high.
I think you are missing the point. As you state the BBC is a public service, it's funded by an enforced license payment (if you own a television or radio it is a criminal offense not to have a license) So in theory I have already paid for the content, if the iPlayer goes ahead in it's current format then I, like many others, are being locked out of content for which they have already paid for. This hardly seems fair.
You cannot draw a comparison between 4OD, Sky and the BBC. The first two are commercial entities, and neither are funded by a "tax" I can choose to pay for sky. C4 get generates its revenue from adverts. I am strongly against DRM, so all I can do in those cases if refuse to use their services.However by law I am mandated to pay for the service the BBC offers. So I wish to make full use of it.
I am tired of having my Englishness subsumed into some ephemeral "Britishness" whilst the national identity of Wales and Scotland is actively promoted by the Scottish Occupation Government of Blair, Brown, Reid, etc.
Whilst I have nothing against the other constituent nations of the UK, the sooner we English get independence, the better.
I for one, being Scottish, hope that you do in fact achieve independence, and quickly. Then you can just bugger off and give us all a rest from your jingoistic bullshit.
And i thought it was only communists who used open source!!!
In the words of Groucho Marx: "Those are my principles, if you don't like them I have others"
I am lucky enough to be studying Software Engineering at a good university in the UK.
As part of my degree I am required to take a year long industry placement.
While many of my peers went to large companies such as Sun, Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley I ended up working for a very small company indeed.
I must admit I was bitter about this at first, after all when I leave uni I think it would be good to have a year long placement with a company like Sun on your resume.
However I have changed my mind, working in a small development team means that I actually get more all round experience. Let me explain-
Finally my year long project involves building a telephony system (using asterisk, Postgres, Java and PHP) for a new customer service centre. This is critical to their business and I feel as if I am being given important tasks, and not just there to make the tea. Overall I feel as if I will come out of this placement with a good range of experience and with something to offer future employers.
Ah Bob's Big Boy. Got to love it. I am in a weird situation where I spent 8 months of the year in Glasgow (UK) and the rest in LA.
I have a list of places to go when I arrive in LA and that is near the top. Tommy's used to be on it as well, but IMHO they have went downhill.
All I want in life is a Coffee Bean and Tea Leaf and a Fatburger to open in Glasgow though. Oh and possibly a branch of The Hat. Now that would make for a messy keyboard.
Great,
I think i just put on 10lbs looking at that.
I like In-N-Out but if you want a good quality burger you got to head to Fatburger. Their Turkey Burger on Brown is the dogs bollocks*
*I would just like to point out that it is not in fact made out of dogs bollocks (then it would be a bollocks burger) this is a British term for very good.
Geez,
It's like an electrician setting your house on fire due to some dodgy wiring, and then offering to sell you a fire extinguisher as your house burns down.
Hmmm, being an ex british army officer I have a certain sympathy with the soliders involved.
if
the car was speeding towards their position in excess of 50mph
if
the driver was not paying attention
if
they had a spotlight and laser shone onto them.
However those are an awful lot of if's.
It seems to be split into 2 main camps here. Those that believe the soliders because they are American, and those who don't believe them for exactly the same reason.
You say you don't blame the soliders, thats because you believe what the report says, and dismiss the Italian version, I think that's naive at best.
I think the truth lies somewhere in the middle ground.
It's actionable when government makes laws abridging the freedom of speech.
I am not American, and therefore do not have anymore than a basic unterstanding of the constitution. However I fail to see why this is an issue of freedom of speech.
Freedom of choice YES. The ruling majority forcing their own standards onto their citizens. YES.
There are many things which I don't agree with. Doesn't mean I want to stop other people from doing them. AFAIK pornography is legal in the US. So while the state may be unhappy that it's service may be used for looking at such, there is very little they should be able to do about it. Some may argue that minors may be able to view porn, but that doesn't wash either. You cannot protect the rights of some people by taking away the (legal) rights of others.
So is that like little fairies or something that write code while everyone is asleep?
More like a team of gremlins.
No, what makes Komodo unique here is the fact it doesn't run under OSX. Perhaps you missed the point of this thread!
Eclipse is fully extendable, for example it's only a matter of time before a python plug-in is released. In fact I know people who are working on one. FWIW Eclipse also has a PHP plug in and an XSLT, oh wait there is also a Tcl option.
While I use KDevelop for C/C++ it also can be used for Ada, Objective-C (via C support), SQL, Fortran, Haskell, Java, Pascal,Python, Ruby, Bash, XUL
While Zend Studio only handles PHP it does it well. It's the only IDE (so far) with PHP5 and it's features make it indespensible for PHP developers.
These products are also cheap (read free) which is important whe you are a student. .
I used Java C/C++ as examples because thats what I use them for. But these IDE's offer much more.
To be honest even if Komodo released a OSX version I very much doubt I would use it, I am more than happy with my current choices.
I looked at Komodo, I even tried it. Didn't like it at all. Although to be fair it was an earlier version, but I found it clumsy and cluttered.
Another problem I have is I use multiple OS's (Solaris at university) OSX and Linux at home. So I really want an Application that can be used in all of the above. Preferably with the ability to export/import projects.
Java - Eclipse
C/C++ - KDevelop*
PHP - Zend Studio
I havent found any better than those three IDE's
*I have KDevelop running under OSX.
If 3000 lines of dense mathematically rich C were checked in and a dozen lines acted in concert to create a miscalculation, how much expertise would be needed to catch that?
Um...I wouldn't think that much. Isn't that the point of Black Box testing. You plug a value in, you know what should come out the other side. If the values don't match well you have a problem.
You can link anything with GPL'ed code as long as it's other GPL (or GPL-equivalent) code.
That is the full point of the GPL, and it does the job it is meant too.
George
It's "you're," not "your."
Yes you are right, and in future I will make sure that all my posts are grammatically correct just so wankers like you, with nothing better to do, don't go off on one.
Because you lot (I'm assuming you're a Brit due to the BBC link, and I apologize if I am wrong) sent all of the Puritans over here in the 1600's. Thanks heaps. It's been a pantload of fun dealing with the screwed up morality they've left us.
Well as a Brit, I would like to say
Your welcome!
The tiral, for obsenity, in the UK of Penguin publishers for the book Lady Chatterley's Lover.
The prosecution arguement was simple, what would happen if a minor was to read this book.
If his ruling, in favour of the defence, the noted that it would be a sad day if any country was to base it's censorship laws around what a 14 year old girl might think.
To me that is the way the US is going. Not so much from a 14 year olds POV but from a christian right POV. Both should be avoided at all costs.
George
Moore didn't bother to mention England, Poland, or Spain because the administration has mentioned them dozens of times. His point was that the grand coalition numbers of countries included a number of countries who actually had nothing to contribute but lip service. Ok off topic, so let the flamewar begin, but i dont care. First of all, open a fucking atlas. Or look at a globe. England didn't send troops. The United Kingdom did, which is made up of more than a single country FFS.
On saying that it's not something I am proud to admit to. Being a scot living in the US I really despair at how things are turning out.
What i see are your basic freedoms being chipped away at day after day. What so normally sane people say, "We need this to prevent/fight terrorism."
This is why people like Michael Moore are so important to this country. They offer a voice against whats happening in the name of "freedom"
That's Moore's claim. However, his original version was that Disney killed the film because Jeb Bush would try to take away Disney's tax breaks on DisneyWorld in Florida... that's nice, but no such tax breaks exist for them to lose.
Tax breaks perhaps not.
Hmmm. I wonder if it could have something to do with the fact that Florida gave Disney 100 million to build a new theme park (job creation, tourism benefits) which Disney promptly closed because it wasnt making money.
Which technically means they need to pay back the money. Of course I am sure Jeb, could be more relaxed about when and how the money is paid back, just stay on his good side. Hmmmm I wonder how they could do that?
Comparing Microsoft to Drug dealers is a bit harsh, as far as I know a Microsoft product has never killed anyone through over use*. Although the stress of running the OS is probably enough to enduce a stroke or at the very least a heart attack in some people.
[*Disclaimer: Although i am not ruling that possibility out]
However some people may argue that there are comparisons.
Microsoft viciously guard their terriority. Any major reseller that tried to ship a system without a windows OS installed would feel the wrath of Redmond. It's just the MS way of sending Joey and the boys round.
Microsoft first offers you an OS (let's call it XP Home) this is great to begin with. It does everything you need, but one day you realise that it's just not enough. You need more. As luck would have it, there is a better[sic] version out there and all you need to do is open up your wallet.
But wait it's still not enough you need a decent word processor, perhaps a spreadsheet. You have heard about a few other suppliers, Open Source and the FSF. Should you get something from them, you don't know. MS say there "stuff" is like a cancer. You dont want that, no you better head off to MS, with your wallet wide open again, for your fix.
Don't worry they say, you are a good customer. You have done the right thing, by coming back, they have the perfect thing for you. Sure the office application is 3 times the price of the OS, but it's worth every penny. How can you afford it, you really need it though. After all there are no other options MS told you so, and they wouldnt do anything to a "good customer". You go home, get your DVD and video player and head to the pawn shop. It's still not enough, so you go back for your cooker. OMG it's still not enough, you start to search down the back of the sofa and in the pockets of your trousers. You need this, and you have to get it no matter what, if only there was a granny you could mug, that would get you the money you need.
Now you have the money, and your fix of MS product. But you are starting to have your doubts, the product seems impure. Every week you see your other MS using friends come down with some type of illness. Some of them even lost it all, and had to re-install. But it's just must be them, there is no way your friend and supplier would sell you anything that was less than 100% .
Then it happens, something goes wrong. You panic, call your dealers tech support. Don't worry they say, there is a problem but it's not our fault. You see it's these nasty people, they dont like us, so they try to attack us, (and they are clever). There is a solution they tell you, go to this address. Oh bring some ID cos they can't give this out to everyone. When you get there they will supply you with some packages. Install them, about you will be fine.
But your not happy, you decide to change supplier. You tell your original supplier this. Don't go they say you are making a mistake. Ours is a better product. No you insist you want to break the habit. Hold on they say, how about they reduce the cost of the product.......
I do agree with you, my original point was simply that we shouldnt soley rely on Hardened PHP, while it is a move forward, it still is no substitute for good practice.
a person who is asked to make a wheel fairing in three minutes using simple hand tools will make far more mistakes than one who has a dedicted stamping machine. Not really sure I understand. Surely a better way would be to train the person, rather than build in safeguards just in case they produce something that is faulty ( a likely event) even the most experienced PhP programmer can make an error. education helps, but fixing the system is a better idea. Which is why education is so important, let's move away from syntax/coding and look at testing/evaluation. Critical points in your system, for example user input, must be throughly tested. Sections of your code that could produce an error must be allowed to recover if this happens. Does it do something it shouldn't...the list goes on.
it's certainly a step in the right direction, however as most vulnerabilitiesseem to come about as a result of poorly written code shouldn't the community be trying to educate newer (and some more experienced) PHP users.