I can already see the Sun ad campaign to follow the.NET initiative.
Sun: We put the "." in.NET too.;-)
I think we are missing the obvious in his response
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Mundie Responds
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I don't post often so I'll attempt to be brief:
Mundie cites revenue generated by the software industry as being positive for economics, but the other side of that is what the businesses need to hear. Businesses only care about profit. Why put that money into software that already exists as GPL/BSD/Any Free for commercial use software?
It is obvious in the article that microsoft is trying to instill FUD in the programmer community as well. The FUD of not ever getting paid or making decent money as a closed source person could make.
Writing a closed source program is easy compared to letting someone see your code and tell you how you can improve it. It takes a person with a lot of confidence in themself and a desire for the best program to let others critique them.
Ford Motor Company today annouced it would be looking into the issue of GM and Dodge stealing one of their marketing concepts. Sources say Ford filed for the patent on any vehicle with 4 wheels that has a motor in it. Due to the fact that many of Fords colors and 4-wheeled-car design can be found in other car manufacturers, Ford believes this gives them the right any profit earned from these vehicles.
Aol/Netscape make a browser (netscape) and a portal that indexes web pages (www.aol.com, www.netscape.com). M$ makes a browser (IE) and a portal that indexes web pages (www.msn.com).
Isn't this the same as napster providing the protocol and also offering an index service?
Just kidding AOL could fall of the face of this planet and fall into SPAM hell and I wouldn't care. Teach gramma to use a real ISP.
I'm a sysadmin that has sent 4 Abuse complaints to AOL for open relay in the last 48 hrs. Somebody needs to do something about it. Kudos ORBS for having the BALLS to stand up to them.
I work for an ISP and I am constantly wishing I had the stability of Linux/Unix/whatever runs better than windows for our streaming media. We use Real products to encode one radio station and windows media player for the other. WMP has only been up for about 3 wks now with no trouble out of it yet, and Real's product stops encoding about once every month for no reason and won't start back up. (RestartWrapper for realplayer coming out soon??)
Anyway I was told to price solutions for producing audio and video content. Windows Media encoder and the server is free with IIS and RealProducts are EXPENSIVE.
I want the ease of WMP in WMP format on the stability of *nix/BSD. Oh and free too.
Slackware has always taken stability and usability over ease of use. (Thank God)
Does branching off into your own company affect the priciples behind Slackware? In other words Will this mean Slackware will have to become easier in order to compete with the other Linuces?
I personally prefer the stable over the easy. If I wanted easy I would be in another OS.
I use slackware at work. It freed me from my WinNT partition. I have used all of the RedHats up to 6.1 even seen Mandrake 7 more than once. I've installed FreeBSD & Corel Linux. Most of the time just to see what they decided to do differently. I have a partition on my HD at home that gets whatever new linux comes out just to see the differences. I always go back home to Slackware.
It's easy to configure the scripts to make everything run the way you want it to. It doesn't come with RPM support out of the box, but rpm2tgz is a great program. Not only that. I personally prefer tar.gzipped files. I prefer to compile them and get a feel for the programmer who wrote the software.
People that used slak 0.0.0.1 shouldn't compare the early versions to redhat 6.5 or any other current distro. I think Rob Malda still has his Slackware Rant on his web page that he had trouble with one of the early versions.
...and my last beef with the slack discussion is this: Where can you find a more helpful group of people that can fix just about anything Slackware related within 24 hrs, or at least make suggestions that point you in the right direction than http://www.slackware.com/forum They are a good group of guys (and gals) that know the distro well.
I've never met Patrick Volkerding or any of the other crew involved with Slackware. Probably would ruin my image of them;) (j/kidding) but I know their distro inside and out.
Slackware 7 is right up there with the rest of the Linuces*. Try it, you'll see.
I can already see the Sun ad campaign to follow the .NET initiative.
.NET too. ;-)
Sun: We put the "." in
I don't post often so I'll attempt to be brief:
Mundie cites revenue generated by the software industry as being positive for economics, but the other side of that is what the businesses need to hear. Businesses only care about profit. Why put that money into software that already exists as GPL/BSD/Any Free for commercial use software?
It is obvious in the article that microsoft is trying to instill FUD in the programmer community as well. The FUD of not ever getting paid or making decent money as a closed source person could make.
Writing a closed source program is easy compared to letting someone see your code and tell you how you can improve it. It takes a person with a lot of confidence in themself and a desire for the best program to let others critique them.
put this in your /root/.bashrc
alias updatenow='cd update_directory;ncftpget ftp://updates.redhat.com/ver.num/arch/*;rpm -Fvh *;echo "Doh, that was hard. I'm going to sleep now." '
cron or run "updatenow" as root when updates come out.
Might want to learn what all that means and script around kernel updates until you are ready.
Those willing to give up a little freedom for security do not deserve either.
:)
Ben Franklin (Paraphrased due to a bad memory
This Just in:
Ford Motor Company today annouced it would be looking into the issue of GM and Dodge stealing one of their marketing concepts. Sources say Ford filed for the patent on any vehicle with 4 wheels that has a motor in it. Due to the fact that many of Fords colors and 4-wheeled-car design can be found in other car manufacturers, Ford believes this gives them the right any profit earned from these vehicles.
More news to come...
Aol/Netscape make a browser (netscape) and a portal that indexes web pages (www.aol.com, www.netscape.com). M$ makes a browser (IE) and a portal that indexes web pages (www.msn.com).
Isn't this the same as napster providing the protocol and also offering an index service?
...just food for thought.
AOL used as an open relay? Not possible!
Just kidding AOL could fall of the face of this planet and fall into SPAM hell and I wouldn't care. Teach gramma to use a real ISP.
I'm a sysadmin that has sent 4 Abuse complaints to AOL for open relay in the last 48 hrs. Somebody needs to do something about it. Kudos ORBS for having the BALLS to stand up to them.
I work for an ISP and I am constantly wishing I had the stability of Linux/Unix/whatever runs better than windows for our streaming media. We use Real products to encode one radio station and windows media player for the other. WMP has only been up for about 3 wks now with no trouble out of it yet, and Real's product stops encoding about once every month for no reason and won't start back up. (RestartWrapper for realplayer coming out soon??)
Anyway I was told to price solutions for producing audio and video content. Windows Media encoder and the server is free with IIS and RealProducts are EXPENSIVE.
I want the ease of WMP in WMP format on the stability of *nix/BSD. Oh and free too.
Slackware has always taken stability and usability over ease of use. (Thank God)
Does branching off into your own company affect the priciples behind Slackware? In other words Will this mean Slackware will have to become easier in order to compete with the other Linuces?
I personally prefer the stable over the easy. If I wanted easy I would be in another OS.
Come on folks lets compare apples to apples.
;) (j/kidding) but I know their distro inside and out.
I use slackware at work. It freed me from my WinNT partition. I have used all of the RedHats up to 6.1 even seen Mandrake 7 more than once. I've installed FreeBSD & Corel Linux. Most of the time just to see what they decided to do differently. I have a partition on my HD at home that gets whatever new linux comes out just to see the differences. I always go back home to Slackware.
It's easy to configure the scripts to make everything run the way you want it to. It doesn't come with RPM support out of the box, but rpm2tgz is a great program. Not only that. I personally prefer tar.gzipped files. I prefer to compile them and get a feel for the programmer who wrote the software.
People that used slak 0.0.0.1 shouldn't compare the early versions to redhat 6.5 or any other current distro. I think Rob Malda still has his Slackware Rant on his web page that he had trouble with one of the early versions.
...and my last beef with the slack discussion is this: Where can you find a more helpful group of people that can fix just about anything Slackware related within 24 hrs, or at least make suggestions that point you in the right direction than http://www.slackware.com/forum They are a good group of guys (and gals) that know the distro well.
I've never met Patrick Volkerding or any of the other crew involved with Slackware. Probably would ruin my image of them
Slackware 7 is right up there with the rest of the Linuces*. Try it, you'll see.
* I think that's the plural.
All the possible responses I can think of to this post are:
#1 There ya go. Let's criticize everything.
#2 Here's an Idea...instead of knocking something that's useful, suggest something better than slashdot.
#3 If every troll had there way Jon katz would be dead and slashdot would never post anything because it wasn't worthy.
#4 If you don't like it, leave.
There I got it out of my system. Now no one else has to do it.
Gerald