Amazon Paid the UPS guy shipping + tax in the city where it shipped the product. The local UPS guy that delivers it to you bought gas that had taxes on it. The Local UPS he works for pays taxes on his salary. The government has it's hand in plenty of places along the way. The method of transport is not one of them.
Ok, I know the details of the MS Resolver not doing queries to the nameserver correctly...and I understand the motivation for wanting to make a cleaner healthier internet. I even accept that maintaining the root nameservers isn't necessarily (to my knowledge) directly rewarded monetarily.
When do we get to the point that the root nameservers accept their place on the internet as the starting point for looking up people. This is similar to 411 or a phone book. How many times have you looked up a phone number to find out it was an unlisted or wrong city number.
I agree with them that code should be cleaner and traffic should be cleaned up, but a lot of the reporting coming off of these articles tend to sound like whining.
I don't blame the researchers, or the root nameserver maintainers for this. It's just something to keep in mind.I have to deal with spammers and open relays most days. It's my job! I signed up for it.
Nagios is really nice. I've used it at 2 ISP's now and it is amazing how fast you can deploy it and how reliable you can make it. The plugin design makes it expandable beyond belief, and you can fine tune it to where it is much more reliable and quicker than a tech support phone call at 3 AM (...something is broke. We don't know what...but...)
Ethan has always been cool about responding to feature requests and reasonable questions about nagios from what I've seen.
For the people who mailed the mailing list and didn't get a reply though, standard mailing list rules apply:
1. No one is required to help you. (this program is free)
2. If you don't submit enough information to help you, the list doesn't have to ask you to clarify. (silence may be your indication)
3. Did you read the documentation? Did you reread it? Did you understand it? If the answer to any of those is no, you might not get a reply.
4. Are you asking something that is truely unique to your situation? Most times this means it is something you are tasked to come up with. The list isn't required to do your job for you. If the request is from out in left field and doesn't affect a mass group, your chances of getting a reply are slim.
For the last one in particular I would like to add that our job as sysadmins (even if you are not paid for it) is to come up with (read: create) solutions. Don't get frustrated if someone else doesn't hand you a solution on a silver platter. You signed up for the job.
I wouldn't wear it as my only protection, but it beats the T-shirt and baggy pants 2 morons wore when we went out riding as a group.
I don't even want to think of the damage to your arms when you bounce around in that thing. It wouldn't have helped the 2 minor newbie accidents I had sliding the bike.
This line looks like a blatant call to slashdot to advertise his software.
" Some argue for Linux on economic and cultural grounds: Microsoft, people say, has driven up prices and suppressed innovation. But this is a ticklish argument at best..."
That's one of the first articles I've read in a long time that screamed flamebait from beginning to end. He's trying to drum up attention for his software and/. and NY Times were suckered into it.
Need research funds? Imply there might be life out there to the media.
Sensationalism at its best.
I for one am getting more cynical about claims of ET life. I think it'll get to the point where most people would have to shake hands with an alien to believe a "researcher" now.
Ok. Now reread the article for what it actually says.
"However, [Dr Holland,who led the team,] said there was little chance of finding life on the planet because it was under constant bombardment from a surrounding belt of comets. "
before that his unrelated comment to the finding was...
"Personally speaking, I think it must be odds-on that there is intelligent life elsewhere in the universe, and I think one day we will find it - or they will find us."
Please read the article all the way through before you jump to conclusions.
UUnet is having a massive network outage. You can't even get through to tech
support -- they just have a tape repeating "Worldcom is experiencing network
outages in multiple locations throughout the United States". Shit, I can't
route through NYC
"But the biggest challenge, says Yousef Khalidi, chief technology officer for N1, was in packaging the technology. It will only be adopted if the nerds who run corporate systems co-operate, which they might not do if it creates too rapid change or even loses them their job."
Er...come again? What part about your product is supposed to make me want to install it? The fact you called me a nerd, or the fact that so far all you have is marketing hype and no real product?...or maybe it was the fact your goal is to replace me instead of work with me to fix the problems you have with your EXISTING products?
I'm not going anywhere for a while, but you may be looking for a new job in the near future. What was your username?
1. Hire photographer with best equipment. 2. Get full copies of all the photos you want to duplicate. 3. Have photographer killed to prevent lawsuits. 4. Copy the images till your heart's content.
... 5. ??? 6. Profit!
The thought came from some lame photographer telling a mob member he can't duplicate photos. Vinny, go take care of this copyright problem for me.
Feb 2001 conversation: Re: NASA & John Hopkins joint operation...or Dude, Where's my sattelite
Dude1: Ok we're done with NEAR. Dude2: Dude, I want to land this thing on Eros. Dude1: That won't be easy...but why not? Dude2: Dude! Dude1: Sweet!
*Fast Forward to May 2002* Dude2: I'm bored. Dude1: What now? Dude2: Not much...no cash. Dude, I guess we could launch NEAR off EROS again. Dude1: Sweet!
No, I'm the one who does it right to start with, since I'm not tied into some crappy propoganda some vendor sold me before they gave me a piece of paper to say I paid their fee. I learned on my own with my own time and my own computers bought with the same type of money you wasted on a piece of paper.
I'm the one they call to fix contractors work when upper management get snowed under by some cocky good-for-nothing MCSE toting loser who screws up the network and software because he thinks he knows it all.
There is much much more to my story that you don't even deserve to hear as an AC. You don't know me. Don't even pretend.
Moderators. Please keep this article at the same score as the AC post even if that means modding me down to 0. Thx
Page 1 Summary: MCSE is cool. Must get it. Page 2 Summary: MCSA is new and cool. Must get it.
I didn't even go into page 3 since the link was titled MCDBA.
I was beginning to hope no one paid money for this article as it appears to be a copy and paste of all of Micorosoft's propoganda crap.
Short suggestion since this subject seems to come up on a regular basis.
1. There is no substitute for a degree to get an interview. CSCI is a plus but get a degree. I always reccomend Bachelors of Business Administration or MBA if you can stomach the crap they will teach you long enough to get the paper.
Reason: They'll always pay some shmuck more $$ than you to be a manager. Someday you may want to be that shmuck. Hope not, but this degree will make that jump easy. (Boss, if you readin I didn't say that was you.) 2. Certs are cool, but don't rely on them for anything, and take the ones you want to take...not some crap a trade rag or M$'s site tells you are good certs. 3. Real world: There is no substitute for experience. That being said get a job where some place won't mind you breaking stuff while you learn and be gentle. You'll get there.
I'll shut up now.
Sysadmin with no certs and a music degree for 3 yrs now.
I can easily comment on this, as I just got my AthlonXP 1600+ in yesterday and dropped it in to my brand new Abit NV7m which has the built on GeForce 2 and the Nvidia motherboard chip.
A friend of mine had a kt133a chip with his athlon and he had the problems of SB Live + kt133 not working all the time. This motivated me to go out on a limb and try the nvidia route.
For anyone who has been holding off on upgrades for a while like I did though, the purchase of the NV7m with the built on Geforce 2 (running at 6x agp!! according to abit) was a nice upgrade from my withering Voodoo 3 3k. $140ish + s&h for vid card and MB isn't bad since the competition is about the same price. I'm still installing stuff to test the on board video card. I was surprised not many hardware sites reviewed it, and there's very little (in english) on Deja-Google about the nv7m good or bad.
Of special note on this, the motherboard Geforce 2 on the abit board only has Win 2k and Win XP drivers, which sucked, because I wasn't ready to abandon 98SE yet as my gaming machine. Oh well, it was time.:-)
Isn't it time we realize that more lawsuits are coming soon. This is how we grow a profession as a society. For example, do you think Doctors aren't sued most of the time? A lot of the quirks medical professionals have to go through are to prevent legal action against them. I can already hear the "but they deal with lives" arguement, but it's a developed profession. I think we could all learn to chill on how many lawsuits we file. Be prepared for system administration to turn into a bunch of red tape saying exactly what we are allowed to do and how we are to do it. This is a good thing in some ways. It means our field is maturing even more.
Slashdot Mirror
Amazon Paid the UPS guy shipping + tax in the city where it shipped the product. The local UPS guy that delivers it to you bought gas that had taxes on it. The Local UPS he works for pays taxes on his salary. The government has it's hand in plenty of places along the way. The method of transport is not one of them.
Ok, I know the details of the MS Resolver not doing queries to the nameserver correctly...and I understand the motivation for wanting to make a cleaner healthier internet. I even accept that maintaining the root nameservers isn't necessarily (to my knowledge) directly rewarded monetarily.
When do we get to the point that the root nameservers accept their place on the internet as the starting point for looking up people. This is similar to 411 or a phone book. How many times have you looked up a phone number to find out it was an unlisted or wrong city number.
I agree with them that code should be cleaner and traffic should be cleaned up, but a lot of the reporting coming off of these articles tend to sound like whining.
I don't blame the researchers, or the root nameserver maintainers for this. It's just something to keep in mind.I have to deal with spammers and open relays most days. It's my job! I signed up for it.
"The operation timed out when attempting to contact www.aceshardware.com"
Nagios is really nice. I've used it at 2 ISP's now and it is amazing how fast you can deploy it and how reliable you can make it. The plugin design makes it expandable beyond belief, and you can fine tune it to where it is much more reliable and quicker than a tech support phone call at 3 AM (...something is broke. We don't know what...but...)
Ethan has always been cool about responding to feature requests and reasonable questions about nagios from what I've seen.
For the people who mailed the mailing list and didn't get a reply though, standard mailing list rules apply:
1. No one is required to help you. (this program is free)
2. If you don't submit enough information to help you, the list doesn't have to ask you to clarify. (silence may be your indication)
3. Did you read the documentation? Did you reread it? Did you understand it? If the answer to any of those is no, you might not get a reply.
4. Are you asking something that is truely unique to your situation? Most times this means it is something you are tasked to come up with. The list isn't required to do your job for you. If the request is from out in left field and doesn't affect a mass group, your chances of getting a reply are slim.
For the last one in particular I would like to add that our job as sysadmins (even if you are not paid for it) is to come up with (read: create) solutions. Don't get frustrated if someone else doesn't hand you a solution on a silver platter. You signed up for the job.
What does that say for the universities embracing Microsoft?
...just a thought.
I wouldn't wear it as my only protection, but it beats the T-shirt and baggy pants 2 morons wore when we went out riding as a group.
...it can never be said enough. Wear your gear.
I don't even want to think of the damage to your arms when you bounce around in that thing. It wouldn't have helped the 2 minor newbie accidents I had sliding the bike.
Do you find the priceline commercials that you do just as annoying as we do? ;-)
CKK is the judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly
This line looks like a blatant call to slashdot to advertise his software.
/. and NY Times were suckered into it.
" Some argue for Linux on economic and cultural grounds: Microsoft, people say, has driven up prices and suppressed innovation. But this is a ticklish argument at best..."
That's one of the first articles I've read in a long time that screamed flamebait from beginning to end. He's trying to drum up attention for his software and
Seems like the thing to do lately.
Need research funds? Imply there might be life out there to the media.
Sensationalism at its best.
I for one am getting more cynical about claims of ET life. I think it'll get to the point where most people would have to shake hands with an alien to believe a "researcher" now.
Ok. Now reread the article for what it actually says.
,who led the team,] said there was little chance of finding life on the planet because it was under constant bombardment from a surrounding belt of comets. "
"However, [Dr Holland
before that his unrelated comment to the finding was...
"Personally speaking, I think it must be odds-on that there is intelligent life elsewhere in the universe, and I think one day we will find it - or they will find us."
Please read the article all the way through before you jump to conclusions.
Both taken from NANOG today.
For T-1 customers, the master Ticket Number is 651744
For customers with DS/OC gear, that master ticket number is 651751.
And on the funny side from nanog:
Subject: Dont you love it when FC updates are better than NOC status report?
This is an automatic email from Fuckedcompany.com. A new rumor has been submitted on October 3, 2002 9:37AM that matches your keyword "Worldcom".
Huge Worldcom Outages
WorldCom
http://www.uunet.com
UUnet is having a massive network outage. You can't even get through to tech support -- they just have a tape repeating "Worldcom is experiencing network outages in multiple locations throughout the United States". Shit, I can't route through NYC
"But the biggest challenge, says Yousef Khalidi, chief technology officer for N1, was in packaging the technology. It will only be adopted if the nerds who run corporate systems co-operate, which they might not do if it creates too rapid change or even loses them their job."
...or maybe it was the fact your goal is to replace me instead of work with me to fix the problems you have with your EXISTING products?
Er...come again? What part about your product is supposed to make me want to install it? The fact you called me a nerd, or the fact that so far all you have is marketing hype and no real product?
I'm not going anywhere for a while, but you may be looking for a new job in the near future. What was your username?
G
1. Hire photographer with best equipment.
...
2. Get full copies of all the photos you want to duplicate.
3. Have photographer killed to prevent lawsuits.
4. Copy the images till your heart's content.
5. ???
6. Profit!
The thought came from some lame photographer telling a mob member he can't duplicate photos. Vinny, go take care of this copyright problem for me.
"Ever wonder what Colleen Kollar-Kotelly is doing to pass the time while she waits for the next step in the Microsoft case?
Umm, No I don't think so. No I can say for certain it hasn't crossed my mind.
I liked COTSE Lookup tools 404. It's a lot longer and will have you rolling.
here...
Gerald
That's called a laptop. Not a PDA.
Sorry. Copy and paste bugs me so I'll save you all the trouble (even though the link didn't load for me).
Link to triangle boy.
G
Feb 2001 conversation:
Re: NASA & John Hopkins joint operation...or Dude, Where's my sattelite
Dude1: Ok we're done with NEAR.
Dude2: Dude, I want to land this thing on Eros.
Dude1: That won't be easy...but why not?
Dude2: Dude!
Dude1: Sweet!
*Fast Forward to May 2002*
Dude2: I'm bored.
Dude1: What now?
Dude2: Not much...no cash. Dude, I guess we could launch NEAR off EROS again.
Dude1: Sweet!
I'm posting this before I've read the already long list of comments, but can we get a "FLAMBAIT TOPIC" warning on the main page?
Me
:0:
* ^From:.*\.pro.*
/dev/null
No, I'm the one who does it right to start with, since I'm not tied into some crappy propoganda some vendor sold me before they gave me a piece of paper to say I paid their fee. I learned on my own with my own time and my own computers bought with the same type of money you wasted on a piece of paper.
I'm the one they call to fix contractors work when upper management get snowed under by some cocky good-for-nothing MCSE toting loser who screws up the network and software because he thinks he knows it all.
There is much much more to my story that you don't even deserve to hear as an AC. You don't know me. Don't even pretend.
Moderators. Please keep this article at the same score as the AC post even if that means modding me down to 0. Thx
I stopped reading before page 3.
Page 1 Summary: MCSE is cool. Must get it.
Page 2 Summary: MCSA is new and cool. Must get it.
I didn't even go into page 3 since the link was titled MCDBA.
I was beginning to hope no one paid money for this article as it appears to be a copy and paste of all of Micorosoft's propoganda crap.
Short suggestion since this subject seems to come up on a regular basis.
1. There is no substitute for a degree to get an interview. CSCI is a plus but get a degree. I always reccomend Bachelors of Business Administration or MBA if you can stomach the crap they will teach you long enough to get the paper.
Reason: They'll always pay some shmuck more $$ than you to be a manager. Someday you may want to be that shmuck. Hope not, but this degree will make that jump easy. (Boss, if you readin I didn't say that was you.)
2. Certs are cool, but don't rely on them for anything, and take the ones you want to take...not some crap a trade rag or M$'s site tells you are good certs.
3. Real world: There is no substitute for experience. That being said get a job where some place won't mind you breaking stuff while you learn and be gentle. You'll get there.
I'll shut up now.
Sysadmin with no certs and a music degree for 3 yrs now.
I can easily comment on this, as I just got my AthlonXP 1600+ in yesterday and dropped it in to my brand new Abit NV7m which has the built on GeForce 2 and the Nvidia motherboard chip.
:-)
A friend of mine had a kt133a chip with his athlon and he had the problems of SB Live + kt133 not working all the time. This motivated me to go out on a limb and try the nvidia route.
For anyone who has been holding off on upgrades for a while like I did though, the purchase of the NV7m with the built on Geforce 2 (running at 6x agp!! according to abit) was a nice upgrade from my withering Voodoo 3 3k. $140ish + s&h for vid card and MB isn't bad since the competition is about the same price. I'm still installing stuff to test the on board video card. I was surprised not many hardware sites reviewed it, and there's very little (in english) on Deja-Google about the nv7m good or bad.
Of special note on this, the motherboard Geforce 2 on the abit board only has Win 2k and Win XP drivers, which sucked, because I wasn't ready to abandon 98SE yet as my gaming machine. Oh well, it was time.
G
Isn't it time we realize that more lawsuits are coming soon. This is how we grow a profession as a society. For example, do you think Doctors aren't sued most of the time? A lot of the quirks medical professionals have to go through are to prevent legal action against them. I can already hear the "but they deal with lives" arguement, but it's a developed profession. I think we could all learn to chill on how many lawsuits we file. Be prepared for system administration to turn into a bunch of red tape saying exactly what we are allowed to do and how we are to do it. This is a good thing in some ways. It means our field is maturing even more.
:-)
I'll shut up now.