Companies should keep their workers employed indefinitely, until they run out of money, even if they don't have work for them to do?!?
Say, I'm willing to paint the outside of your house for only $50. But I'll expect you to continue to pay me that $50, every day, until you're out of money.
Say your life expectancy is 40 years, back in 1964 computers were few in number and filled a large room. Now there is more power in a PDA than in that room back then.
That is a wildly ignorant assertion, one that is popular to make, but completely incorrect.
The 'power' of the 1964 mainframe comes from more than the CPU's ability to clock it's way through the address space. The 1964 computer connected hundreds of peripherals in ways that made it useful to many people.
The PDA has a faster clock, but is essentially I/O bound to be a limited, stunted user interface.
They changed for me when I configured my logged-in account to view slashdot in 'light' mode, and configured mozilla to block images from images.slashdot.org.
It's also nice that Slashdot uses a limited number of banner-advertising services so those can easily be blocked as well.
Slashdot has never been about the graphics or pretty pictures. I do miss a few of the icons. Always have liked that roach image for 'bugs' and the 'Christmas Cheer' icon sort of cheers me up.
The thing is... a properly configured Linux can be installed on pretty much whatever hardware you have lying around. Whereas Solaris x86 can't.
Are you saying you can cite instances of hardware you were unable to install Solaris x86 on, or are you just out there spreading FUD about matters you have no experience with?
I have a somewhat limited experience installing Solaris x86 but it's worked on each of the several machines I've installed it on.
Why are you broadening the discussion into a general purpose anti-business rant?
This station being discussed probably had options they should have taken to get off the deprecated Class D license. The LPFM upgrade that some people have been mentioning should have been acted on. Instead they just mulled along doing nothing, and the world changed around them.
But now I've gone and drifted back on topic. Sorry.
The school-run station is the Government entity. The so-called 'little guy' is a tax-supported bunch of people messing around. The entity taking away their spot on the band is the non-government entity, freeing up something formerly owned and dominated by government.
and do you think that those carriers have figured out some way to isolate that signal that regular industry hasn't?
This is topic-drift, but I am more confident in an air carrier implementing a managed, tested cell/wifi system on board their planes than I am in an ad-hoc 'anything goes' system where anybody rich enough to have a handheld of some sort can just jam away.
It is really weird to see someone who claims to represent a class of people who administer systems (ooooh aaaaah oooooh!) carping and whining about a File Open dialog.
Real men configure systems in vi on serial consoles or in ssh sessions. There ain't no File Open dialogue on a headless box. I suppose with X there can be, of course....
If you're buying their propaganda without watching TV, I suppose you're creative in your self deception.
He's way ahead of you. You seem to be steeped in the parodies you read in Tom Tomrrow and Doonesbury cartoon strips.
Get a grip and stop treating 'the other side' like the evil characters in comic books.
And get used to the idea that there's real change going on in Iraq, and that things are getting better there for the regular people who live there. It pisses off all sorts of fringe players, but it's the truth.
but get your head out of the past and focus on the Texan in charge of the nightmare raging *today*.
It's all about hating-Bush, eh?
Thank goodness Bush-hating is still a pretty elite passtime, because people like you would give anything to take him out. If you had the way, you'd highjack the whole country and crash it into Bush Tower to take Bush out.
Zealots are frightening sorts. Thank goodness you're easy to identify.
Fortunately, I think both major parties in the US understand that even if they aren't totally sure how to finish.
And, fortunately for the Republicans, there isn't a significant section of their party that is anti-War and will tear the party apart because the established politicians have to do what's sensible. Can't say the same for the Democrats. Nader and the anti-war types are gonna rip-em apart this summer.
Right. They just don't talk about what they do in their prisons at all. And they don't have guards who sport around with digital cameras in their prisons, either. Guards who are half-hearted reservists, mind you.
Nope. I'd say if you're in an Iranian prision being tortured, you're fucked.
I wrote a variation of that on my HP11C programmable calculator while in Tech school in the early 80's. We'd pass the calculator around the room and play that game when the lectures were boring.
I recently noticed there's a whole section for hacker/cracker/security books at the local Borders bookstore these days. A whole row of books on the topic, some 'serious threat' type books, others are how-to guides.
We've come a ways, it seems, from the 'the book that might not even be legal to sell' claims on Schneier's book.
Is the four foot shelf of Solaris manuals I got on eBay recently for $10 dangerous, too?
What about Volumes 3 and 8 of O'Reilly's X Window System guide (User and Admin guides)? Are cavalcades of.xsession and.login viruses and malware on the way??
Somebody tell me the Tab Window Manager will be safe to run forever! I need something to cling to and feel safe.
Linux doesn't make getting a machine infected that easy, but it shouldn't be that hard to write something that infects user accounts. Every user obviously has execute privledges on some things. Which can include a ~/bin directory. There's no inherent mechanism that prevents binaries existing in the user's home path and being callable by said user. There's no reason why 'infections' of various sorts can't work their way into a user's shell environment. All a user's dotfiles are vulnerable to this possibility. And the dotfile/init/startup environment of most Unix-like environments seems to only be getting more and more complex these days.
If Linux ever gains the degree of popularity where regular mainstream folks are using it daily, it'll come.
That's the trigger mechanism for a trojan, or a worm, not a virus at all. Viruses are bits of code that attach themselves to other binaries and affect how said binaries work. Often they spawn copies of themselves each time their host binary is run.
It's dismaying how many people fail to understand what a computer virus actually is, and how it works.
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I want to comparion shop.
Where do I find the Linux hardware compatability list?
Don't give me a long list of FAQs, Usenet newsgroups, and IRC channels I should dig around in.
Companies should keep their workers employed indefinitely, until they run out of money, even if they don't have work for them to do?!?
Say, I'm willing to paint the outside of your house for only $50. But I'll expect you to continue to pay me that $50, every day, until you're out of money.
Say your life expectancy is 40 years, back in 1964 computers were few in number and filled a large room. Now there is more power in a PDA than in that room back then.
That is a wildly ignorant assertion, one that is popular to make, but completely incorrect.
The 'power' of the 1964 mainframe comes from more than the CPU's ability to clock it's way through the address space. The 1964 computer connected hundreds of peripherals in ways that made it useful to many people.
The PDA has a faster clock, but is essentially I/O bound to be a limited, stunted user interface.
Let's jump in that hole!
Whoo! Nobody has made my whoop out loud with a slashdot comment in a long time! heh.
They changed for me when I configured my logged-in account to view slashdot in 'light' mode, and configured mozilla to block images from images.slashdot.org.
It's also nice that Slashdot uses a limited number of banner-advertising services so those can easily be blocked as well.
Slashdot has never been about the graphics or pretty pictures. I do miss a few of the icons. Always have liked that roach image for 'bugs' and the 'Christmas Cheer' icon sort of cheers me up.
Are you saying you can cite instances of hardware you were unable to install Solaris x86 on, or are you just out there spreading FUD about matters you have no experience with?
I have a somewhat limited experience installing Solaris x86 but it's worked on each of the several machines I've installed it on.
I call bullshit on this one.
Why are you broadening the discussion into a general purpose anti-business rant?
This station being discussed probably had options they should have taken to get off the deprecated Class D license. The LPFM upgrade that some people have been mentioning should have been acted on. Instead they just mulled along doing nothing, and the world changed around them.
But now I've gone and drifted back on topic. Sorry.
The school-run station is the Government entity.
The so-called 'little guy' is a tax-supported bunch of people messing around. The entity taking away their spot on the band is the non-government entity, freeing up something formerly owned and dominated by government.
and do you think that those carriers have figured out some way to isolate that signal that regular industry hasn't?
This is topic-drift, but I am more confident in an air carrier implementing a managed, tested cell/wifi system on board their planes than I am in an ad-hoc 'anything goes' system where anybody rich enough to have a handheld of some sort can just jam away.
They blew their fair chance in the system by not properly maintaining their license, i.e. converting to LPFM.
It sounds like a rich-kid station thing from the grandparent's comment. It's tenuous to claim they're an 'underserved community.'
So this is another 'big bizness bad' rant discussion and it's on YRO because that's Timmuh's hobby: ranting about big bad bizness.
You still didn't explain how this relates to 'online' except in an extremely peripheral way.
And unlike the camel, perl didn't evolve in a desert. It was invented in a rarified atmosphere.
So it's a hothouse plant, essentially.
That's okay. There's also a following of people who raise African Violets. They have enthusiast magazines, clubs and associations, too.
It is really weird to see someone who claims to represent a class of people who administer systems (ooooh aaaaah oooooh!) carping and whining about a File Open dialog.
Real men configure systems in vi on serial consoles or in ssh sessions. There ain't no File Open dialogue on a headless box. I suppose with X there can be, of course....
With all the croft and bloated crap that gets thrown in your face after a fresh install, it gets harder and harder to just run FVWM2, however.
Did you eat a whole sack of the 'shrooms at that Phish concert, or something??
Wow. Those nuns poured blood on the 6 ton cover of the silo and then hit it with their 'ball-ping hammer.'
And sang hymns and stuff. I wonder if they were getting bored and worried towards the end of their 'action' that nobody was going to notice them?
If you're buying their propaganda without watching TV, I suppose you're creative in your self deception.
He's way ahead of you. You seem to be steeped in the parodies you read in Tom Tomrrow and Doonesbury cartoon strips.
Get a grip and stop treating 'the other side' like the evil characters in comic books.
And get used to the idea that there's real change going on in Iraq, and that things are getting better there for the regular people who live there. It pisses off all sorts of fringe players, but it's the truth.
but get your head out of the past and focus on the Texan in charge of the nightmare raging *today*.
It's all about hating-Bush, eh?
Thank goodness Bush-hating is still a pretty elite passtime, because people like you would give anything to take him out. If you had the way, you'd highjack the whole country and crash it into Bush Tower to take Bush out.
Zealots are frightening sorts. Thank goodness you're easy to identify.
Fortunately, I think both major parties in the US understand that even if they aren't totally sure how to finish.
And, fortunately for the Republicans, there isn't a significant section of their party that is anti-War and will tear the party apart because the established politicians have to do what's sensible. Can't say the same for the Democrats. Nader and the anti-war types are gonna rip-em apart this summer.
Right. They just don't talk about what they do in their prisons at all. And they don't have guards who sport around with digital cameras in their prisons, either. Guards who are half-hearted reservists, mind you.
Nope. I'd say if you're in an Iranian prision being tortured, you're fucked.
I wrote a variation of that on my HP11C programmable calculator while in Tech school in the early 80's. We'd pass the calculator around the room and play that game when the lectures were boring.
Minimalist programming environments are cool.
I recently noticed there's a whole section for hacker/cracker/security books at the local Borders bookstore these days. A whole row of books on the topic, some 'serious threat' type books, others are how-to guides.
.xsession and .login viruses and malware on the way??
We've come a ways, it seems, from the 'the book that might not even be legal to sell' claims on Schneier's book.
Is the four foot shelf of Solaris manuals I got on eBay recently for $10 dangerous, too?
What about Volumes 3 and 8 of O'Reilly's X Window System guide (User and Admin guides)? Are cavalcades of
Somebody tell me the Tab Window Manager will be safe to run forever! I need something to cling to and feel safe.
(or something)
I remember the good old days, when all the most interesting viruses were on non-Microsoft systems. The Amiga comes to mind.
Linux doesn't make getting a machine infected that easy, but it shouldn't be that hard to write something that infects user accounts. Every user obviously has execute privledges on some things. Which can include a ~/bin directory. There's no inherent mechanism that prevents binaries existing in the user's home path and being callable by said user. There's no reason why 'infections' of various sorts can't work their way into a user's shell environment. All a user's dotfiles are vulnerable to this possibility. And the dotfile/init/startup environment of most Unix-like environments seems to only be getting more and more complex these days.
If Linux ever gains the degree of popularity where regular mainstream folks are using it daily, it'll come.
That's the trigger mechanism for a trojan, or a worm, not a virus at all. Viruses are bits of code that attach themselves to other binaries and affect how said binaries work. Often they spawn copies of themselves each time their host binary is run.
It's dismaying how many people fail to understand what a computer virus actually is, and how it works.