Get your shit together, the top link of a prominent story remains broken.
This is simply to get you ready for the event that after you get interested in Dart and maybe learn and build something with it, Google will EOL it and cancel the project.
I think Orbital Sciences and SpaceX are at present the only real contenders for private commercial launch. Jeff Bezos' Blue Cactus or whatever is really just a "vanity project" for the bizillionaire.
Google confirms it will shut down goal sharing service Schemer...
Queue the folks who built their entire business plan around this free service and will now bleat about how unfair it is, proving once again the Google == Apple == "Micro$oft" == pure corporate evil.
Cash gets to the bank immediately, credit cards/debit cards take 2-3 days.
Really? There is a magic pneumatic tube from the cash register to the bank and the cash requires no additional handling between purchase and deposit? Wow.
The "parent" you are responding to talks about "illegal" file sharing - that is, file sharing of content where the copyright does not allow it. Since you licence your files under CC, most are probably not "illegally" shared. But not every artist uses CC.
Just as developers that use GPL code and folks that use CC licensed material must adhere to the copyright conditions associated with GPL and CC, so must they adhere to the copyright conditions that are associated with other types of copyrights.
You can't have it both ways: "you must follow my copyright rules but I don't have to follow yours".
The cards in question (it's even in the summary) were used at brick and mortar retailers. I want to know how/why these credit card numbers were being stored in the first place. If I walk into a store and buy something with a credit card, they have NO business keeping that information after they've received the money!
If you have a habit of returning items purchased with Credit Cards, often they return the dollar amount to your card rather than cash, to prevent fraud.
If you are paying for a service such as a hotel room, they retain your info as a guarantee you will pay when you check out, and be responsible for damage (the same is true of rental cars).
These are two reasons, there are others. Try not to be paranoid, and if you must, simply use cash if as it seems you don't like the convenience of Credit Cards.
As I said, in a previous post, I have *never* had an issue with a Credit Card that was not resolved in 30 years of using them.
What you don't see is the money that VISA charges the company you buy from.
I'm fully aware of the money the CC charges the retailer. That's not my problem, that one of the costs of doing business.
which in turn that company charges you.
The cash price would be no lower, and even without the CC tax, most businesses will charge as much as they can anyway.
.And since all companies need to support VISA (because of the duopoly of VISA and MC), it's pretty hard to change. And you don't even know it because said company is not allowed to discuss that.
First, companies certainly do not have to accept CREDIT cards. Secondly, retailers bitch moan and complain all the time about CC fees, they certainly can and do "discuss" it with customers many times.
Accepting CC is a convenience for BOTH the customer AND the retailer. And since they build the CC fee into the price which they charge even CASH customers, retailers are in no position to make a stink. They are not obligated to sell their product to me, they can switch to a cash / debit card only business if they so choose. As it happens, it benefits them to accept CREDIT cards, and so they do.
Actually the merchants that accepted the transactions made on stolen cards, take the hit. Visa doesnt have any sort of risk in this business.
Exactly, but many of these same merchants would tell me to get fucked if it were not for the fact that the credit card company will back me on the refund.
My dad runs a small business, and usually if there is any problem with a credit card charge, Visa/MC will extract money back from him in a blink of an eye.
What kind of "problem" would that be? If your father is not providing adequate customer service such that customers seek redress from their credit card company, maybe the problem isn't the credit card?
Yay Credit Cards! We don't have to worry about getting screwed over because they protect us while they screw us! So we're used to it!
I've never had a problem with mine. Ever. I pay it off every month (thus I pay no interest), and I know that if an on-line retailer screws me over, I can dispute the charge, and the credit card company will back me.
So, I don't see a problem.
If you can't manage your finances responsibly, maybe you shouldn't have one?
Seriously, let's not waste money and time with these people when there are serious scientists that are not getting the support they need for serious research.
People with low income can't afford as much gadgetry.
That they can't afford things like smart phones does not stop "poor people" from buying them. I have seem many panhandlers and other assorted "street people" whip out smart phones and start texting.
I, on the other hand, have a decent paying job, but do not have a smart phone because I understand I have better things to spend my money on.
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You're probably going to need to upgrade to links because a lot of sites are using CSS menus now
Nonsense. I'm also a masochist.
I don't have a problem with JavaScript, AdBlock, or NoScript... I surf with Lynx. It's all I need.
Get your shit together, the top link of a prominent story remains broken.
This is simply to get you ready for the event that after you get interested in Dart and maybe learn and build something with it, Google will EOL it and cancel the project.
All I've heard is that words were exchanged and popcorn was thrown.
Someone could have lost an eye, fella...
Why even read reviews such as this? We know what the pronouncement from the Great Man will be.
As Gaius Marius said, "You all suck!".
Now we know...
Try learning the difference between a patent and copyright before opening your mouth.
Who said anything about copyrights? Oh, that would be you, not the parent.
When one develops a patentable software algorithm, one generally executes it in "code", hence the parent comment referencing "writing code".
But we're not talking about programming, we're talking about physical people.
No, we're talking about physical people's gripes in a web forum. The physical people are not embedded in Slashdot...
I think Orbital Sciences and SpaceX are at present the only real contenders for private commercial launch. Jeff Bezos' Blue Cactus or whatever is really just a "vanity project" for the bizillionaire.
Google confirms it will shut down goal sharing service Schemer...
Queue the folks who built their entire business plan around this free service and will now bleat about how unfair it is, proving once again the Google == Apple == "Micro$oft" == pure corporate evil.
Cash gets to the bank immediately, credit cards/debit cards take 2-3 days.
Really? There is a magic pneumatic tube from the cash register to the bank and the cash requires no additional handling between purchase and deposit? Wow.
The "parent" you are responding to talks about "illegal" file sharing - that is, file sharing of content where the copyright does not allow it. Since you licence your files under CC, most are probably not "illegally" shared. But not every artist uses CC.
Just as developers that use GPL code and folks that use CC licensed material must adhere to the copyright conditions associated with GPL and CC, so must they adhere to the copyright conditions that are associated with other types of copyrights.
You can't have it both ways: "you must follow my copyright rules but I don't have to follow yours".
The cards in question (it's even in the summary) were used at brick and mortar retailers. I want to know how/why these credit card numbers were being stored in the first place. If I walk into a store and buy something with a credit card, they have NO business keeping that information after they've received the money!
If you have a habit of returning items purchased with Credit Cards, often they return the dollar amount to your card rather than cash, to prevent fraud.
If you are paying for a service such as a hotel room, they retain your info as a guarantee you will pay when you check out, and be responsible for damage (the same is true of rental cars).
These are two reasons, there are others. Try not to be paranoid, and if you must, simply use cash if as it seems you don't like the convenience of Credit Cards.
As I said, in a previous post, I have *never* had an issue with a Credit Card that was not resolved in 30 years of using them.
What you don't see is the money that VISA charges the company you buy from.
I'm fully aware of the money the CC charges the retailer. That's not my problem, that one of the costs of doing business.
which in turn that company charges you.
The cash price would be no lower, and even without the CC tax, most businesses will charge as much as they can anyway.
.And since all companies need to support VISA (because of the duopoly of VISA and MC), it's pretty hard to change. And you don't even know it because said company is not allowed to discuss that.
First, companies certainly do not have to accept CREDIT cards. Secondly, retailers bitch moan and complain all the time about CC fees, they certainly can and do "discuss" it with customers many times.
Accepting CC is a convenience for BOTH the customer AND the retailer. And since they build the CC fee into the price which they charge even CASH customers, retailers are in no position to make a stink. They are not obligated to sell their product to me, they can switch to a cash / debit card only business if they so choose. As it happens, it benefits them to accept CREDIT cards, and so they do.
Actually the merchants that accepted the transactions made on stolen cards, take the hit. Visa doesnt have any sort of risk in this business.
Exactly, but many of these same merchants would tell me to get fucked if it were not for the fact that the credit card company will back me on the refund.
If you used cash there would be no details on file to be hacked!
On-line retailers don't take cash.
My dad runs a small business, and usually if there is any problem with a credit card charge, Visa/MC will extract money back from him in a blink of an eye.
What kind of "problem" would that be? If your father is not providing adequate customer service such that customers seek redress from their credit card company, maybe the problem isn't the credit card?
Yay Credit Cards! We don't have to worry about getting screwed over because they protect us while they screw us! So we're used to it!
I've never had a problem with mine. Ever. I pay it off every month (thus I pay no interest), and I know that if an on-line retailer screws me over, I can dispute the charge, and the credit card company will back me.
So, I don't see a problem.
If you can't manage your finances responsibly, maybe you shouldn't have one?
That's the thing about CREDIT cards, the customer generally doesn't take the financial fall for fraud.
This is not as trivial as it may sound...
Really? from...
the low-credibility effort to colonize Mars...
Yes frome these people, it *is* "trivial".
Seriously, let's not waste money and time with these people when there are serious scientists that are not getting the support they need for serious research.
You aren't actually forced to use G+
Most Slashdotters aren't actually forced to do much of anything, but that doesn't stop them from bitching about just about everything.
But what's even more interesting is that John McAfee uses a Flowbee to cut his hair.
Sorry, I forgot all about McAfee "anti" virus software until this story, as I and everyone I know stopped using it years ago.
CEO Raj Shahsays he worked in the Air Force Reserve supporting the NSA
They aren't really the same thing now are they?
Either way it's not really a good selling point.
Hmmm, maybe I'll *not* buy their firewall...
People with low income can't afford as much gadgetry.
That they can't afford things like smart phones does not stop "poor people" from buying them. I have seem many panhandlers and other assorted "street people" whip out smart phones and start texting.
I, on the other hand, have a decent paying job, but do not have a smart phone because I understand I have better things to spend my money on.
UK company Premium Interest ...
Troll.