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Google Begins To Merge Google+, Gmail Contacts
An anonymous reader writes "Google today announced new integration between Gmail and Google+ that sees your social connections show up in auto-complete when you're composing an email. Google says the feature is rolling out "over the next couple of days" to everyone that uses Gmail and Google+."
Spam City, here we come. Why is this opt-out instead of opt-in? Because nobody would want it.
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dont use "see-what-cute-thing-my-cat-did networking" but integration of email contacts with social networking platform contacts, where either party of the latter may not know the other's email address (on that email service) sounds pretty bad. and i could see it being abused by fake or hacked google+ accounts to obtain a target's verified gmail address.
When will they force everyone using any google service to use G+?
What about all these people that have problems having G+? This could well be the real beginning of the end
Google+ is a failure. You know it. We know it. Please stop being Microsoft. Even they (sometimes) know when to quit.
whoa.. that makes us old now? I still thought that made us cool.
Just another second banana
All your base are belong to us.
This is why I still have an outlook account
http://www.salemnews.com/local/x1221263334/Unwanted-invitation-lands-Beverly-man-in-trouble
Though the obvious response is, "for now."
That's great Google. Keep trying to make google+ a thing. That's great.
Can't say I'm happy about how that worked out for youtube but keep trying. You never know.
I don't care that much anyway. I switched my gmail account to be my spam account a while ago and only check it via outlook any so whatever. Good luck though.
I'm just waiting for a conclusive youtube history gets linked in to your G+ display. I'm sure that won't be any cause for embarrassment amongst professional circles.
Science advances one funeral at a time- Max Planck
All your A-Frames are belong to us.
Science advances one funeral at a time- Max Planck
Seriously. It is coming and it will be bad.
Now this with Google, Ubuntu and Unity interface across desktop and mobile, Apple slowly fusing iOS and OS X, Microsoft fusing the Metro interface. Everyone seems to be consolodating. Why? I don't reckon punters really want all this. Have the boffins gone mad?
Old? That meme only happened in the early 2000s and the version of the game that it came from was released in 1991. If you think that makes you old, then you're probably still just a kid.
Why Google, didn't you piss enough people off when you merged Youtube with Google+ then chased off a considerable portion of your Youtube customers with run-away copyright claims? Why do you persist in forcing onto many of your customers a social networking service that they do not want, and turning your services into things we never asked for?
YouTube only carries tame content. They don't allow offensive stuff.
Guess what? It's a condo. It only concerns the 12 people who live here. No one else cares about who cleans our carpets and who's complaining about the squeaking hinges on the door over at #201.
It's so stupid. I downloaded all the documents in the drive but Google doesn't handle french accents too well in file names, AND it creates a flat zip... We lost the whole tree. Oh well, I'll manually re-create it when I migrate over to Yahoo groups.
You can say what you want about Yahoo, they don't annoy you at the same level as Google.
Mostly random stuff.
Because $50E+9/y revenue just doesn't cut it.
lol right
I really don't mind... because I hardly ever use either G+ and Gmail anyway!
Oh yeah? Well, a grue eats your face!
Do not look into laser with remaining eye.
srsly this merging and changes are growing very, very old.
The change to YouTube comments is just one change which pissed me off.
Why can't companies just leave well enough alone? If it's not broke ...
...I've just moved over to Yandex and given Google the finger.
You're so old that you forgot "are" due to your senility?
Agreed, all of google's "upgrades" have been absolute garbage lately.
Question: Do Google Apps for Business (with custom gmail for your domain) withhold all this crap or do those users get the pleasure of this too despite being paid for (and not cheap either, per user, per month).
What, with your bare hands?
-- XYZZY
Do not mock my vision of impractical footwear
Yeah, I totally forgot about that entire trove of porn, gore and racist videos on YouTube...
I like my electronic services to be nice little seperate compartments...
So i can DUMP any of them that get stupid. I really don't want any of my stuff linked together.
It is no different when people made a stink over Microsoft bundling IE with Windows.
Wrong
They do not wield monopolistic power in the marketplace, and they are not leveraging monopolistic power (which they don't have) to obtain a monopoly in another market.
This is very different from Microsoft, which leveraged it's desktop monopoly in order to try to obtain a browser monopoly, and was convicted of same in a Federal Court.
Just give me GMail.
Why is it so hard for Google to give me something I want and not something that I don't want?
Or is this part of Google's plans to increase their Google+ numbers by forcing everyone with GMail to become part of Google+?
Give it a break Google.
You were cool.
But now you're becoming annoying.
If G+ was market dominant, the argument could be made that by showing completions only from google services was anticompetitive.
G+ is not market dominant... even among Google employees.
I'm about to just go back to using the family domain I have with a no-frills shared hosting account and set up my own IMAP mailbox via Cpanel again.
I never left that setup. It's far better than throwing all your mail into Google's (or Yahoo's, or anyone else's) whim factory.
Worst thing thus far is that my default email address for some friends (that I email often) has defaulted to the G+ address. When I compose a message to my friend Jim, instead of showing the email address I expect, I get whatever address he entered in G+. Spent an hour trying to disconnect my Gmail contact info from his G+ contact info...lots of complaints, but no solution. More obfuscation by Google. Like Facebook, they make it hard to control your privacy and preferences.
Delete your account. Problem solved? wai...
That aside, what are the odds that this rolls out faster than Youtube live streaming ;)
This.
I have my own domain and a small rack in the basement, with mail I haven't used much in a while.. but this G+ stupidity might just roust me out of my slumber. I've stayed with Gmail out of inertia mostly; the handy features just barely outweigh the irritation. But it's really, really close. The Gmail interface changes from a year ago still suck. Badly. Google+ is an irritating solution to a problem I don't have, and becoming terribly intrusive. Youtube integration is actively conterproductive, a constant intrusion of personal browsing into potential business activity. When I log into gmail and open up a youtube tab, it constatntly pops up a link to some warplane videos I watched a year ago. So... I can't browse youtube because if I use gmail to communicate with clients for moonlighting gigs, because those who use g+ might see that and think I'm a nut? No thanks.)
Gmail is a handy web interface to email functions I had thru IMAP a decade ago, nothing more. I could easily switch back. Better yet, I could update the whole mess and run it in a couple of VMs at AWS for pennies a day.
I hesitate because Google docs is handy for helping my kids on their school reports, annotating, correcting, making suggestions as they work on it.. but really it's a nice-to-have. I would miss it, but if the price for docs is forced use of Google+, it's not worth the hassle.
I think not...(*poof*)
And I would have used any google ID for "professional" purposes???
This issue is a bit more complicated than you think.
I sure am glad I put hmailserver on aws. My gmail account hasn't been checked for a couple of years.
Wow, all of my gmail accounts are going to be linked to my (non-existent) g+ account? This could be fun.
This issue is a bit more complicated than you think.
I have NOTHING to do with Google OR GMail. I know friends who have GMail accounts, but that does not imply that they use it for social purposes and linking someone's GMail contacts violates any contact who has FUCKING NOTHING TO do with g00gLE. I will sue this spying fucking company
Use different accounts. I have several Google accounts for different purposes. All are connected to chrome where I want them to be. Nothing professional ever gets on my personal accounts, where I look at political stuff and the like that my colleagues have no business knowing. I only use my personal accounts outside work hours, or on my phone. In any case, colleagues only see what I want them to see. It takes a while to get used to (forgetting to do work-related searches in the work browser) but when you do it's really, really handy. Problem solved? Sure, they could get at my accounts if the boss really wanted to but the boss could also install a key-logger and I'm not that paranoid...
When Google merged gmail and YouTube my wife's email address used her YouTube account name instead of her real name. suffice to say, she was pissed off and embarrassed since she had emailed work contacts with her gmail and didn't notice until she emailed her own work email account.
Hopefully both pools of users are trustworthy. If you need a place to dump spam email and garbage signups, get another email (or put youremail+vendor@gmail).
Same here. I'm building the list of places I need to visit to update with the new email.
This kind of thing is why I don't use Android. It's why I don't use Chrome. And yet... I live near Austin. When the Google Fiber goes in, I plan to move to their service area. So they'll get me anyway... damn, it sucks realizing I can be bought with fast bandwidth.
I think great-grandparent was saying that google and skynet are having sexual relations, and that one of them is currently having an orgasm. When they're done, one will ask the other "was it good for you?" and the reply will be "honestly? it was pretty bad."
I still keep my gmail account for my android phone, which is also used as *send_spam_here* mailbox, my primary is being handled by zoho, which is OK.
Unlikely. Since they're both just out to screw US.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
.....mud pies?
Google seems to be up for it.
...here comes the Google-train.
A....
Chugga, chugga, choo, choo!
why the hell google don't understand that nobody wants G+ ??????????
Yes. But usually under the guise of a GoogleApps account.
bickerdyke
on my personal accounts, where I look at political stuff and the like
I see what you did there.
If Pandora's box is destined to be opened, *I* want to be the one to open it.
Yup. We are fixing YouTube comments and features. The Content ID system is working perfectly fine and doesn't need adjusting. We plan to combine more features so all those with G+ can 'search' for what they actually want.
We want to be like FaceBook and become cool... erm, uh... the NEW FaceBook. Yeah, that's right so... uh, just bend over and take it. Don't bother protesting it. :)
We love to read your feedback and suggestions! (and laugh.)
they might end up linking those :) who thought youtube, on which you have had an account possibly longer than googles ownership, would be merged and linked to your gmail? i see in a few years, your phone number, email addresses, all accounts of any subsidiaries of google, etc will be linked.
Mistakenly use the wrong account ONE time and you probably won't be able to undo the mess it will cause. I didn't like it when my "smart" phone linked my contacts and social apps and I don't like the idea of G+,FB, etc doing things auto-magically for me either.
This crap is just chasing me away from Gmail and G+.
Keep the Classic Slashdot.
Nobody was talking about the videos
There's plenty of things on YouTube that I would be embarassed for the world to know I saw I'm sure. Tame or not.
Wow, sent an e-mail as suggested when clicking on "use classic" banner, and got a fast response that addressed my msg
That isn't antitrust.
It's just shitty marketing and annoying.
IE listened and could respond to requests over the network whether you used it or not.
IE was used to render Help pages and could infect your system if the Help file was malicious, and you could not change that.
IE was used by MS systems to render HTML whether you wanted to use IE for browsing or not.
You were not forced to use it, your computer used it for its own purposes whether you wanted it to be used by your computer or not.
Ref: #6: You can make money without doing evil.
http://www.google.com/about/company/philosophy/
YRS
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That is why I chose not to buy an android phone this Christmas when I upgraded my phone. I really wanted a bigger screen and less headache than I associate with the iPhone. But, at the last moment, I decided I didn't want to provide my phone number to Google.
True. They probably have my phone number already. But, I didn't want to hand it to them.
127.0.0.1 plus.google.com
Problem solved!
And if that doesn't work 100%, throw apis.google.com in there as well. That might break more though.
No more annoying, sluggish, shitty Youtube comments for me.
"the argument could be made that by showing completions only from google services was anticompetitive"
I'll break it down.
Currently the complaint is that G+ integration is "anticompetitive" because G+ isn't popular.
If G+ WERE popular, then, as with integrating Google search with adsense, where the search is very popular, it is claimed this is "anticompetitive" BECAUSE G is popular.
This indicates that the popularity isn't what they are complaining about, it's being part of Google they're complaining about. And since they're trying to make out it is something else, then they are tacitly admitting that this explanation is not one that makes the situation true, therefore the entire argument is one of false premise.
Finally google is following the route canonical is going now.
Just sign up, and you're now using those other systems.
However, the OS was not possible to do so
1) Wintel Hardware. Does not work with BeOS/Linux
2) Internet access. "My internet connection doesn't work. No, I use Linux. No, there should be no difference using it. So you don't support Linux on your network?"
3) Office for Windows won't run on BeOS. Neither with Dreamweaver. Neither are available for purchase on Linux. The version of Office running on Mac is not 100% compatible with the same generation version of Windows Office.
Gmail's market dominance in email is almost irrelelvant, since the barrier to entry is so low. Any retard can get a cox business account and set up an email server for less than a grand. Scaling it, also, is not impossible. Hell, you could probably do it within the TOS of EC2. It's not a giant problem. Youtube, certainly a market dominant position, though htey have viable competition, and the barrier to entry there is a non-trivially higher. However, there's not much to the antitrust argument here.
There aren't really any great options when it comes to phones. You can get an Android phone, which is inexpensive but has Google's tentacles in it, or you can get an iPhone which is expensive as hell and forces you to stay confined to Apple's walled garden and their One True Way of doing everything and fuels a company which now seems have taken the crown of most evil corporation (in the tech sector) away from MS, or you can get a Windows Phone which is ugly, forces you to do everything in MS's One True Way of doing everything, and fuels what is now the second most evil corporation in the tech sector.
AFAICT, the best option is probably going to be getting an Android phone, and then reflashing it with one of those alternative firmwares like CyanogenMod which doesn't have everything linked to Google.
Yeah, I totally forgot about that entire trove of porn, gore and racist videos on YouTube...
I hate it when I click on a link and it takes me to an Al Gore video :(
However, the facts of the case, being different, were decided in a court of law to be different.
It's kinda, like, not okay to use the adjective 'autistic' as an insult?
But the setting preference was there already. I apologize to the company for opting out before anyone had a chance to spam me.
I'm just waiting for a conclusive youtube history gets linked in to your G+ display
YouTube History is a history of what you watched, not what you commented. You're the only one not talking about videos.
and I'm no fan of google now that its joined alec but you need to chill the fuck out. he;s right. this is not anti trust. Moran.
Even worse is the al gore porn. "Your orgasm meets or exceeds previous orgasms that have been induced as a side effect of sexual relations with me."
And you don't want to see the racist al gore porn. "It gives me great pleasure when you carefully insert your uncircumcised 20 centimeter african-american penis into my rectum and stimulate my prostate and large bowel."
Do you even lift?
These aren't the 'roids you're looking for.
I left google for my own little email server as part of a New Year's resolution. This makes me confident I made the right decision.
On the flip side, it broke the ability for a relative to borrow your computer to check their email. Typing in a username while not logged in became impossible. It wants you to enter your password. Googling for a solution shows you have to log in, then manage accounts to create the other user's profile showing a corrolation even if it is a casual connection.
As a work arround, I make multiple user accounts for guests, and then delete them after they checked their email. I don't need my account directly associated to some of my visitors.
The truth shall set you free!
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You can remove Gmail from a Google account (with or without G+). You just need another email address somewhere else. I have a few Google accounts for different purposes (work / not work), and I use Chrome "users" so they don't get confused with each other. So you could still access Google Drive without using them for email.
I once logged on to complain about using my real name in Google+ while logged into my gmail account "firstname.lastname@gmail.com".
I seriously don't know what's with all the G+ hate. I primarily use the unlimited storage for photos on G+ to share my pics with friends and family (their APIs make batch uploading easy, and I migrated several thousand pics from my own Gallery2 installation to G+, including description texts, with a small python script). I am subscribed to a bunch of "communities" which deliver quite a bit of interesting content. And I also *enjoy* the link to to youtube comments as it floats interesting videos to my stream that people from my circles commented on.
I moved from an Android phone to WP8 and I enjoy it for the most part. The app selection is pretty limited, but the OS itself is miles ahead of Android. I still use an Android tablet too, mainly so all of the money I spent on apps doesn't go to waste. I just wish that MS would add an Android compatibility layer into Windows Phone and perhaps even desktop Windows. If they did that, there would be very few reasons to use Android.
Another outcome that would be good for users is if Cyanogenmod gains traction with phone makers and Amazon gains support of developers. Take Android away from Google.
He has a fetish for Sarah Palin, Nancy Pelosi, Michele Bachmann, and Hillary Clinton.
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- - You can't take something off the Internet! That's like trying to take pee out of a swimming pool.
Dear Google, the horse is nead, Naaaay, it's a zombie horse, for the love of all that's holy let it die in peace!
P.S While you're there can you see if you can do anything about Lady GaGa, boy bands, Simon Cowell (Sorry, he's our fault, I apologise on behalf of the UK), reality television and minecraft ?
Lifesigns: Present Hair: Escaped Age: Increasing
I specifically made an account for my android to avoid mixing of contacts. Very few people I have on G+ are folks I communicate with anywhere but online via IRC, FB, or G+. I don't need their e-mail addresses, and I certainly don't want them shoehorned into my address book.
Congratulations on being a retard.
I hope you have to deal with huge amounts of spam
I just get Gmail via IMAP in Thunderbird. So it ain't gonna work.
Incognito mode?
Says the retard that has never heard of Bayesian filtering, of which there are plenty of free and/or open source options. Protip: Google's spam filtering isn't magic.
Yes, I'm sure we ALL know about open-source protocols.
After what's happened with Google's other "upgrades" (for example, having android and not being able to warn people if an app is malware, unless I open a G+ identity service account), I prefer to call this "convenience", a sign of things to come.
And am bailing. I'd far prefer a winphone or iPhone to Google's poorly-implemented and, quite frankly embarrassing, attempt at monopolizing the internet.
I've been busily adding Google employees to my circles all morning long so I can email them all to thank them for this fantastic new feature!
I'm just waiting for a conclusive youtube history gets linked in to your G+ display.
Google will never do that. The only thing that is displayed on your G+ profile is stuff you choose to make public.
Note to ACs: I usually delete AC replies without reading them. If you want to talk to me, log in.
Incognito or clear browser history.
I know a better way of solving this: I have nobody in my circles :-)
When they forced me to switch my YouTube account to G+, I simply removed every person from my circles and regularly delete anything that gets posted to my G+ "wall".
After some point, the itch may grow enough to automate the purge.
Isn't this pretty much what already happened for anyone who "upgraded" their YouTube account by linking it to their G+ account (which was the default choice and heavily promoted by having spam-like dialogs pop out at you again and again and again)?
Jolla phone?
Of course, it won't actually be quite as good at many things. But that's economies of scale to you...
Well, your YouTube comments were public. Just not under the same name.
Well, your YouTube comments were public. Just not under the same name.
They were public under another name, yes, and will optionally become public under your real name. If you activate a Google+ profile, you're given the option of what should be done with all of your old comments. You can keep them public, hide them, or delete them.
https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2657961?hl=en&ref_topic=3097177
Google really is careful about this stuff.
Note to ACs: I usually delete AC replies without reading them. If you want to talk to me, log in.
The way that migration was organized, I wouldn't call it "extremely careful". When you went to YouTube and tried to post anything, they told that you have to migrate to G+, and offered to automatically link your two accounts, determining your other one (from email presumably?). With a big blue button saying "Yes, sign me up!", and a grey and bleak one saying "No, I want my accounts to be separate". Even after I said no, I kept getting asked whether I really want to keep it separate, and maybe I would rather just merge everything, for the next couple weeks or so, every now and then (but certainly often enough to make me quite annoyed). Knowing how many users are about Yes/No popups, always clicking on the more prominent button without reading, I can only imagine how many were conned into merging their accounts.
They seem to have stopped prompting to merge, so now I "only" have to be careful to keep an eye on which account is active whenever going to YouTube (it seems to be auto-switching it to my regular G+ account every now and then).
Yeah, sure they won't...
If they find it'll make them a buck, they'll publicize and/or sell off anything they have on you, just as they sold all of your personal information to marketing companies and the NSA for years.
Finally, an audience for Google+ -- spammers.
Any port in a storm, Google??
IDK about anyone else's definitions of "evil," but spamming would be, in most people's minds, on the Dark Side.
I really can't find any Remove this account inside gmail, not in options or anywhere. :-(
Where have they hidden it?
perhaps google don't like my webbrowser and don't let me until I install chrome or something
I have tried following googles helptexts but they don't work
Amen. My all time most watched videos on Youtube are video game Lets Plays. The prospect of these suddenly being plastered all over my Google+ profile is the reason I will never, ever use G+ in any professional or real name context so long as I live.
May the Maths Be with you!
I don't browse around with an active email login session anyways due to that LinkedIn fiasco from a little while ago and just use thunderbird now, but while I still used Gmail's web interface, the first thing I had to do on my browser was block cookies from youtube. As a result, I no longer saw my gmail login when I was browsing youtube. You might want to try that....
I have left slashdot and am now on Soylent News. FUCK YOU DICE.
It's quite clear that someone at Google has Google+ as some sort of prestige project,
and they are quite willing to sacrifice any Google service to get more people into Google+.
Anyone know why?
to buy anything on the Motorola site. So for example, if you want to buy a screen protector from the motorola site, you can't unless you G+ your gmail account.
uploaded my entire contact list to gmail. Un-f------g-believable. Glad I noticed it.