Well, I'd flag this as a troll, since you don't seem to have even read the rather long and careful explanations above. But I don't have any mod points. Truely a shame, as you are truely deserving.
Well, off the top of my head, it's up to 5 years in prison, and further penalties for telling anyone that you gave up the keys. So if you were running a car chopping ring, for example, where you might get 3 years, giving up the keys would be a better idea, as you might even get found not guilty (unless they force you to plead guilty in return for a lighter sentence - but then you get a lighter sentence anyway...)
Hiding the data in a rock in a Moscow park might be the best way, though.
Start using?!?
The UK has long had a law saying that they can send you to prison for up to 5 years for not surrendering your encryption keys at the police's request. You can also go to jail for telling anyone that you were forced to hand over your keys, so if a cop demands your PIN number and credit card info, you really have to take it on trust that they aren't adding to the police benevelant fund...
All true, but you missed out a few things, like that the law says that if you don't say anything right now under caution then that can be taken as evidence of guilt in court, that the PM is a paranoid wanker who thinks that passing laws to benefit himself and his cronies financially is perfectly ok (like changing the law about DNA retention whilst failing to mention a cabinet member was director of the main DNA profiling company) and that he is free to do as he likes "because I'm going soon" and so is determined to ram through yet another terror law (yes, I'm scared by the thought - a 7th in as many years) as well as a cunning plan to use the powers given to detain someone permanently without trial or oversight by using the idea that stalking is a mental illness. So show a little too much interest in the democratic process, and you could well be removed from it permanently.
Meanwhile, the police push for yet more powers, and our few rights, so recently written down for the first time since they forgot about the Magna Carta, are deleted one by one.
If you are going to stockpile the CRTs, why on earth are you going to buy the warranty on them?
And I wouldn't do it just now, give it three more years, so you can get them for 50p each!
Remember, the price just keeps dropping.
The fun part is, that useless statistic covers everything from some killed with an air gun (even at 12ft-lb. there is a death every few years) right down to getting caught with one in a slip or case, but having the magazine loaded!
About as useful as the government unemployment statistics, which are telling us we are all in work, which are being spraypainted by those seeking jobs, who are quite often hidden from those statistics. There, the scam is that anyone unemployed for more than 6 months is no longer defined as unemployed!
The number of converted firearms under the air guns section is going to be tiny, since they would all be dropped into the gun figures to justify the police helicopter, armed responce teams, budgets, etc. The UK police regularly mount large operations based on "a man with a gun" and turn out to clay grounds, rough shoots, even a play or kids playing(!), mob-handed with dogs and helicopters.
Remember, politians and statistics vary only in that the statistics don't need to move their lips.
Yes, but there are many faults with both the arguements here about UK gun ownership.
Where the villians get a gun from is un-important - there are drilled out pre-1988 blank-firers and converted Brocock revolvers (both now illegal to sell or own or carry about the streets) all the way up to your Glock pistols (which are far cheaper than they ever were in legal gunshops, even before th costs os security and paperwork) and, as reported every so often by the local papers (it never makes nationals) an Uzi or even a Bren belt-fed machinegun.
It is the simple fact that, in spite of all the laws on the books, those who choose to break the law have guns if they want them, and are scarily uncareing about using them. Hence the rise in senseless murders for "respect" or a mobile phone, or a bicycle!
The other issue is that if you have a gun, and keep it out of the cabinet to defend yourself, even if someone is knocking your door down, the police will arrest the owner (even if he has a license!) more often than the criminal.
Both of these come back to the simple fact that you are almost hamstrung by the law in the UK when it comes to preventing an act of violence on you or another.
"Reasonable force" favours the criminal, who is alert and prepared and on his own terms, rather than the occupier, who is often asleep or groggy, and thought he was safe in his or her bed.
The US method has the big plus point in that the criminals will eventually get hurt, killed or captured by a "victim", rather than leaving everything to the over-stretched police force who are, almost by definition, always that bit too late.
You obviously forget the rather high profile case of Dyson vacuums (originally one man), who invented the bagless vacuum for the home (using older technology from the saw mill vacuum), against Hoover, the evil mega-corp and household name.
As I heard it, Hoover basically copied the idea down to the nuts and bolts, and changed the colour, and tried to claim they weren't breaking the patent rights.
The article below is about Dyson loseing one of the many court hearings. Even for a company now the size of Dyson, the costs are still punishing.
"At October's hearing Judge Fysh ruled Hoover's design for the Triple Vortex was a clear infringement of Dyson's patent.
He rejected Hoover's argument that the technology behind the Dyson machine involved nothing that was not generally known within the industry.
Hoover, which counterclaimed for the removal of Dyson's patent on the grounds of 'obviousness and lack of novelty', is seeking to take the case to the court of appeal."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/1113990.stm
Obvious?
I am sure that the many years of work put in to finding a way to make natural rubber into something useful by Charles Goodyear (http://inventors.about.com/cs/inventorsalphabet/a/rubber.htm - end of page 4, specifically) finding the "obvious" solution of mixing rubber and molten sulphur (every home has some, right?) must prove something...
It was "obvious" that turning natural latex into something useful would be a good idea. What took Goodyear many years and a lot of money to do was find out what it was.
Next you will be telling us that the combining of optical and magnetic technology is "obvious" because everyone wants bigger hard drive capacities, despite it taking years to get right in the lab, or that the idea of holographic storage is "obvious" because you saw it on StarTrek!
If I recall correctly, the poor chap was a reporter, and lived out the last of his days in an asylum after seeing things during the Crimean War which he, literally, could never forget.
Me? I have a very good technical eye, and can remember lots of things, but not names. I am almost criminally bad with names.
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Well, I'd flag this as a troll, since you don't seem to have even read the rather long and careful explanations above. But I don't have any mod points. Truely a shame, as you are truely deserving.
But there, you would be breaking the copyright laws, if the GPL didn't hold up, so you couldn't win either way.
Well, they definately sh/would have been on the 'B' ark.
Well, off the top of my head, it's up to 5 years in prison, and further penalties for telling anyone that you gave up the keys. So if you were running a car chopping ring, for example, where you might get 3 years, giving up the keys would be a better idea, as you might even get found not guilty (unless they force you to plead guilty in return for a lighter sentence - but then you get a lighter sentence anyway...) Hiding the data in a rock in a Moscow park might be the best way, though.
Start using?!? The UK has long had a law saying that they can send you to prison for up to 5 years for not surrendering your encryption keys at the police's request. You can also go to jail for telling anyone that you were forced to hand over your keys, so if a cop demands your PIN number and credit card info, you really have to take it on trust that they aren't adding to the police benevelant fund...
All true, but you missed out a few things, like that the law says that if you don't say anything right now under caution then that can be taken as evidence of guilt in court, that the PM is a paranoid wanker who thinks that passing laws to benefit himself and his cronies financially is perfectly ok (like changing the law about DNA retention whilst failing to mention a cabinet member was director of the main DNA profiling company) and that he is free to do as he likes "because I'm going soon" and so is determined to ram through yet another terror law (yes, I'm scared by the thought - a 7th in as many years) as well as a cunning plan to use the powers given to detain someone permanently without trial or oversight by using the idea that stalking is a mental illness. So show a little too much interest in the democratic process, and you could well be removed from it permanently. Meanwhile, the police push for yet more powers, and our few rights, so recently written down for the first time since they forgot about the Magna Carta, are deleted one by one.
If you are going to stockpile the CRTs, why on earth are you going to buy the warranty on them? And I wouldn't do it just now, give it three more years, so you can get them for 50p each! Remember, the price just keeps dropping.
Or look for the words "$ex", "pron" and "p0rn"...
I've no idea... Seems dcs.mattel.com has been /.ed.
Perhaps they should have used text instead of a Flash movie?
The fun part is, that useless statistic covers everything from some killed with an air gun (even at 12ft-lb. there is a death every few years) right down to getting caught with one in a slip or case, but having the magazine loaded! About as useful as the government unemployment statistics, which are telling us we are all in work, which are being spraypainted by those seeking jobs, who are quite often hidden from those statistics. There, the scam is that anyone unemployed for more than 6 months is no longer defined as unemployed! The number of converted firearms under the air guns section is going to be tiny, since they would all be dropped into the gun figures to justify the police helicopter, armed responce teams, budgets, etc. The UK police regularly mount large operations based on "a man with a gun" and turn out to clay grounds, rough shoots, even a play or kids playing(!), mob-handed with dogs and helicopters. Remember, politians and statistics vary only in that the statistics don't need to move their lips.
Yes, but there are many faults with both the arguements here about UK gun ownership.
Where the villians get a gun from is un-important - there are drilled out pre-1988 blank-firers and converted Brocock revolvers (both now illegal to sell or own or carry about the streets) all the way up to your Glock pistols (which are far cheaper than they ever were in legal gunshops, even before th costs os security and paperwork) and, as reported every so often by the local papers (it never makes nationals) an Uzi or even a Bren belt-fed machinegun.
It is the simple fact that, in spite of all the laws on the books, those who choose to break the law have guns if they want them, and are scarily uncareing about using them. Hence the rise in senseless murders for "respect" or a mobile phone, or a bicycle!
The other issue is that if you have a gun, and keep it out of the cabinet to defend yourself, even if someone is knocking your door down, the police will arrest the owner (even if he has a license!) more often than the criminal.
Both of these come back to the simple fact that you are almost hamstrung by the law in the UK when it comes to preventing an act of violence on you or another.
"Reasonable force" favours the criminal, who is alert and prepared and on his own terms, rather than the occupier, who is often asleep or groggy, and thought he was safe in his or her bed.
The US method has the big plus point in that the criminals will eventually get hurt, killed or captured by a "victim", rather than leaving everything to the over-stretched police force who are, almost by definition, always that bit too late.
You obviously forget the rather high profile case of Dyson vacuums (originally one man), who invented the bagless vacuum for the home (using older technology from the saw mill vacuum), against Hoover, the evil mega-corp and household name. As I heard it, Hoover basically copied the idea down to the nuts and bolts, and changed the colour, and tried to claim they weren't breaking the patent rights. The article below is about Dyson loseing one of the many court hearings. Even for a company now the size of Dyson, the costs are still punishing. "At October's hearing Judge Fysh ruled Hoover's design for the Triple Vortex was a clear infringement of Dyson's patent. He rejected Hoover's argument that the technology behind the Dyson machine involved nothing that was not generally known within the industry. Hoover, which counterclaimed for the removal of Dyson's patent on the grounds of 'obviousness and lack of novelty', is seeking to take the case to the court of appeal." http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/1113990.stm
Obvious? I am sure that the many years of work put in to finding a way to make natural rubber into something useful by Charles Goodyear (http://inventors.about.com/cs/inventorsalphabet/a /rubber.htm - end of page 4, specifically) finding the "obvious" solution of mixing rubber and molten sulphur (every home has some, right?) must prove something...
It was "obvious" that turning natural latex into something useful would be a good idea. What took Goodyear many years and a lot of money to do was find out what it was.
Next you will be telling us that the combining of optical and magnetic technology is "obvious" because everyone wants bigger hard drive capacities, despite it taking years to get right in the lab, or that the idea of holographic storage is "obvious" because you saw it on StarTrek!
If I recall correctly, the poor chap was a reporter, and lived out the last of his days in an asylum after seeing things during the Crimean War which he, literally, could never forget.
Me? I have a very good technical eye, and can remember lots of things, but not names. I am almost criminally bad with names.