Bravo! That is precisely the same age-old technique that my parents employed (as well as millions before them). I remember particularly one incident when my 4 year old sister got lost when we entered a Disney World park back in the 70s: We were going through the turnstiles and she just happen to hang on to the bottom of some other lady's dress thinking it was my mom. Within mere minutes she was out of sight and my parents were freaking out.
About 30 minutes later they found her at the security guard's office. It turns out that right after she realize the skirt she grabbed didn't belong to my mom, she panicked, started crying and was taken by the lady to one of the guards. She proceeded to tell them (in broken English, for it is our second language) my father's name and the hotel we were staying at (at the Disney resort). This because for the past few days my parents had made us memorize the information and explained how we should find a "non-stranger" (e.g. a uniformed individual, security guard, or lady with children, etc.) and tell them "help, I'm lost".
A few days later, I got lost at the park. Being seven years old, I did what I was told to do: find a security guard, say "help, I'm lost", and tell them my father's name and hotel. My parents eventually noticed I was missing, and went to the security office to fetch me. No GPS, no real-time tracking.
>> Goodness...how did we EVER survive as a species before cell phones and GPS trackers??!?!
It was a different time; kidnappers and paedophiles were not invented until the 1990s, along with terrorists and weapons of mass destruction. It's the interwebs I tells ya.
10 years? I remember PowWow (circa 1995) had a whiteboard feature. Apart from the single time where everybody starts doodling concurrently just to see what it's all about, I don't think anybody ever used it.
I know it sucks, I get the same problem; but here's a quick-and-dirty work-around: Click the "Change" button, even without making any changes. The page re-post will cause the titles to magically appear.
>> Well, single characters are not exactly known to take a lot of bandwidth. Depends on encapsulation I guess..
Have you taken a look at XMPP? Let me give you a hint: it's XML. Is the picture clear enough already? Every character will be wrapped in mark-up that ensures routing delivery, order, and integrity.
Sure, it looks nifty when two or three people are doing it on a demonstration, but I also have concerns of its scalability to a larger user-base.
Ah, but as long as their motto is "Don't be evil", as opposed to "Don't do evil", there's no problem, and it can't even stand up in court.
Google Attorney: Your honor, we all agree that data mining is evil, yes? Judge: I guess. Google Attorney: Yet, Google is much more than data mining, right? Judge: True, go on. Google Attorney: In fact, Google is not data mining. Judge: uh, ok. Google Attorney: I move to dismiss the charges, for Google is not data mining, ergo it is not evil. Judge: but you do data mining... Google Attorney: Yes, but we are not it. Judge: uh...
Judge: But you are an advertising company. Google Attorney: Oh. well. uh...
There's The Bat, from RitLabs, which is a very versatile e-mail client. It used to be mostly for power users, having extremely complicated features, until version 3, when the developers tried to appeal to the mainstream. It is now a polished and refined e-mail program, with more features than most. It is reminiscent of a modern version of Pegasus or Eudora. In fact, I switched from Eudora to The Bat when Eudora started feeling a bit stale.
There's other e-mail clients out there, it's just that e-mail is such a basic function of the Internet that most people use their e-mail clients as second nature and forget it's there at all.
Do you also give away poisoned gingerbread cookies and put little bits of metal filings in the fruit-cake you send your grandma? I'd bet kids stay away from your house on Halloween, too!
According to Ben Goodger, their intention was to do something close to that: create purely a Windows version and just port it to Linux. They understood that a Windows-ish application on Mac OSX would cause some aversion, so they worked on a native version directly; but for Linux, they didn't think to spend much effort on it at all.
But then their own internal Linux developers pointed out that there would be no point to this, as the Linux community wouldn't accept a second-class, Windows-looking app, and they would be seen as just another mega-corp faking good will towards the community. So now they're scrambling to figure out how to best approach it.
To make it worse, they discovered that most of their abstractions and kluldges for their graphical layer are already built-into GTK and QT, and they are implemented so much better. (And, strangely enough, Mr. Goodger seems to fault Linux for this.) So what to do? Write from scratch natively, use QT or GTK or some other popular tool-kit, port the Windows hackish monster, or some hybrid of the two?
I totally agree. Chrome was announced with great fanfare as a cross-platform, soon to be (mostly) open source, project, and then was released as a Windows-only application. And the excuse for the lack of cross-platformicity? that they coupled some of the inner parts of their code too closely to Windows' APIs. Ha! what kind of platform independence is that? Oh right, the Windows kind.
And now they complain because their Windows-specific tie-ins and work-arounds are not very compatible with Linux tool-kits. Well, boo-hoo! cry me a fscking river. This is what you get when you have Windows programmers attempting cross-platform development, I see it all the time: they end up creating a different native version with plenty of work-arounds, hacks, and kludges specific to each platform; and ultimately a maintenance nightmare.
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>> What the hell did they release? A box of crayons where you have to draw the Internet manually?
Yes, at least for the Mac. The linux version is a wrench, a screwdriver and a roll of duck tape, where you have to build the Internet yourself.
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I don't know how Hulu works, but Tivo tracks your usage and sales the information to third-parties.
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By qualifying it as a "suitable" time machine, are you implying that we currently have time machines, albeit unsuitable to study dinosaurs?
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Whoosh!
P.S. Your comments seems to missing a couple of
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Don't me an idiot. He clearly meant "suse".
Will someone cut George Lucas' hands already so that he cannot mess with our childhood memories any more? Geez!
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What do you do if you your phone number ever changes?
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Bravo! That is precisely the same age-old technique that my parents employed (as well as millions before them). I remember particularly one incident when my 4 year old sister got lost when we entered a Disney World park back in the 70s: We were going through the turnstiles and she just happen to hang on to the bottom of some other lady's dress thinking it was my mom. Within mere minutes she was out of sight and my parents were freaking out.
About 30 minutes later they found her at the security guard's office. It turns out that right after she realize the skirt she grabbed didn't belong to my mom, she panicked, started crying and was taken by the lady to one of the guards. She proceeded to tell them (in broken English, for it is our second language) my father's name and the hotel we were staying at (at the Disney resort). This because for the past few days my parents had made us memorize the information and explained how we should find a "non-stranger" (e.g. a uniformed individual, security guard, or lady with children, etc.) and tell them "help, I'm lost".
A few days later, I got lost at the park. Being seven years old, I did what I was told to do: find a security guard, say "help, I'm lost", and tell them my father's name and hotel. My parents eventually noticed I was missing, and went to the security office to fetch me. No GPS, no real-time tracking.
-dZ.
>> Goodness...how did we EVER survive as a species before cell phones and GPS trackers??!?!
It was a different time; kidnappers and paedophiles were not invented until the 1990s, along with terrorists and weapons of mass destruction. It's the interwebs I tells ya.
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Or use NoScript. Searches just fine without JavaScript.
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You could, but that would not resemble "real-time" communication, as they tried to show.
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10 years? I remember PowWow (circa 1995) had a whiteboard feature. Apart from the single time where everybody starts doodling concurrently just to see what it's all about, I don't think anybody ever used it.
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>> which will be the same service with different properties.
Except for the new LightWave(tm) protocol, which will have features of both the Wave and Particle protocols.
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I know it sucks, I get the same problem; but here's a quick-and-dirty work-around: Click the "Change" button, even without making any changes. The page re-post will cause the titles to magically appear.
-dZ.
>> Well, single characters are not exactly known to take a lot of bandwidth. Depends on encapsulation I guess..
Have you taken a look at XMPP? Let me give you a hint: it's XML. Is the picture clear enough already? Every character will be wrapped in mark-up that ensures routing delivery, order, and integrity.
Sure, it looks nifty when two or three people are doing it on a demonstration, but I also have concerns of its scalability to a larger user-base.
-dZ.
Ah, but as long as their motto is "Don't be evil", as opposed to "Don't do evil", there's no problem, and it can't even stand up in court.
Google Attorney: Your honor, we all agree that data mining is evil, yes?
Judge: I guess.
Google Attorney: Yet, Google is much more than data mining, right?
Judge: True, go on.
Google Attorney: In fact, Google is not data mining.
Judge: uh, ok.
Google Attorney: I move to dismiss the charges, for Google is not data mining, ergo it is not evil.
Judge: but you do data mining...
Google Attorney: Yes, but we are not it.
Judge: uh...
Judge: But you are an advertising company.
Google Attorney: Oh. well. uh...
-dZ.
Thanks! That worked. Now that's change I can believ... uh, sorry.
-dZ.
There's The Bat, from RitLabs, which is a very versatile e-mail client. It used to be mostly for power users, having extremely complicated features, until version 3, when the developers tried to appeal to the mainstream. It is now a polished and refined e-mail program, with more features than most. It is reminiscent of a modern version of Pegasus or Eudora. In fact, I switched from Eudora to The Bat when Eudora started feeling a bit stale.
There's other e-mail clients out there, it's just that e-mail is such a basic function of the Internet that most people use their e-mail clients as second nature and forget it's there at all.
-dZ.
Do you also give away poisoned gingerbread cookies and put little bits of metal filings in the fruit-cake you send your grandma? I'd bet kids stay away from your house on Halloween, too!
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I followed the link to free beer, nice. However, you forgot to put the link to the porn.
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I had a girlfriend who did that to me.
Dude, when your girlfriend tells you "do not touch that" she really means "NO".
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Uh, but that still just means that you would use GIMP to photoshop your images, and not "GIMP" them.
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Wow! I want to be in your Christmas letter list!
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According to Ben Goodger, their intention was to do something close to that: create purely a Windows version and just port it to Linux. They understood that a Windows-ish application on Mac OSX would cause some aversion, so they worked on a native version directly; but for Linux, they didn't think to spend much effort on it at all.
But then their own internal Linux developers pointed out that there would be no point to this, as the Linux community wouldn't accept a second-class, Windows-looking app, and they would be seen as just another mega-corp faking good will towards the community. So now they're scrambling to figure out how to best approach it.
To make it worse, they discovered that most of their abstractions and kluldges for their graphical layer are already built-into GTK and QT, and they are implemented so much better. (And, strangely enough, Mr. Goodger seems to fault Linux for this.) So what to do? Write from scratch natively, use QT or GTK or some other popular tool-kit, port the Windows hackish monster, or some hybrid of the two?
I say, who the fsck cares?
-dZ.
I totally agree. Chrome was announced with great fanfare as a cross-platform, soon to be (mostly) open source, project, and then was released as a Windows-only application. And the excuse for the lack of cross-platformicity? that they coupled some of the inner parts of their code too closely to Windows' APIs. Ha! what kind of platform independence is that? Oh right, the Windows kind.
And now they complain because their Windows-specific tie-ins and work-arounds are not very compatible with Linux tool-kits. Well, boo-hoo! cry me a fscking river. This is what you get when you have Windows programmers attempting cross-platform development, I see it all the time: they end up creating a different native version with plenty of work-arounds, hacks, and kludges specific to each platform; and ultimately a maintenance nightmare.
Good luck with that!
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