On a sidenote, I've been having this feeling for a while now that the CPU arms race has slowed down quite considerably.
For what it's worth I've felt that way for a while too. I recently got a new Core i7 system and *wow*. I've been working on a 1080p video project (was on a Core2 Quad Extreem) and the wait time for render operations is waaaay lower on the core i7.
As to the heatsink issue, I think this CPU is being targeted at high end desktop users and such who usually just toss the OEM cooler in the bin. Since at 180W the OEM cooler would be rather expensive, I think this is mostly a way for Intel to keep the price about $25-$50 lower than it would be with the cooler included. Naturally, breaking the bundle will make the combined cost higher (part of that is justifiable based on seperate packaging, parts that have to be tracked/shipped/etc.) but yeah, I'll bet that you see maybe an overall increase of about $20/unit over the bundle price. -nB
My machine takes about 15 min to boot. SATA disk (not SSD) running full disk crypto, McAfee in uber paranoid mode, and an on-line backup util (connected net backup).
When all that is running together I can't even check e-mail. -nB
I used to work in (NOR) flash at chip densities up to 4 gBit (shows how long it's been). Perfect chips are gettable. Roughly the centermost third of an 8 inch wafer was flawless in my lab. I would figure that on a 12 inch wafer (what most NAND flash is on) that if even the inner 10th is good, you would expect a fairly high yield of "perfect" chips.
you just gave me a great idea. We'll make a party line of congresscritters (with rope or something that does not depend on one individual's structural integrity to maintain the line) and we'll tow it behind my hybrid* truck down the interstate as fast as I can go. Thus we will "Tow the line". -nB
*My truck runs on hydrogen atoms, conveniently packaged by holding them with carbon chains, polar bears, baby seals, and hot air from Prius owners.
My co-worker passed someone on the freeway this morning driving well below the speed limit in the fast lane watching a movie on their tablet... they should be charged as if a DUIs (Driving under the influence of stupid...)
Many of my friends are families of 5-7 (6 being the overwhelming mean). My family is 4, but my kids have friends, thus a vehicle that seats 6 is relatively mandatory. Weight doesn't factor into it at all, thus I would say is a fairly mean spirited ad hominem.
My employer does. We have: -one converted VW rabbit -one Tesla -one sparrow -one electric bike/moped frankin-thingy (not sure if it's even street legal) This out of a population of ~6000 employees. I inquired about what if more people start ddriving electrics, the answer from facilities was we'll add capacity. The current charging pedestals are the old GM EV1/EV2 units with 110/20, 110/30, 208/30 taps bolted to the sides. the 208/30's were added for the Tesla about 2 months ago by his request. -nB
Really? Seriously? You realize that currently the government is obviously over its head WRT computer security. Having a team of grey hats that can see the challenge of hardening a massive network against a Chinese attack is being heartless? Taking things to the extreme is never good in any argument. I'd like to think that I'm one of those black hats, but that doesn't mean I'd betray either my country or my personal morals. Where the two collide I likely would do nothing or flip a coin. -nB
Honestly, Had I no family ties out here on the left coast I would work for NSA. There are a lot of things I can do (not that I'm a maestro by any stretch) that would help them, and since I'm really just a total nerd at heart, all they'd have to do is pay me enough to keep me in toys. Sadly, I doubt they allow working remotely, and I really can't leave where I'm at. I have a good enough gig in a multinational corp in R&D/security already. It scratches most of the itches. -nB
Why another bank? Why not hold up a bank and tell the teller: now zero my debt balance and no one gets hurt. (obviously a stupid criminal, but largely those that walk in to hold up a bank fit that description).
Wasn't there a guy just recently that "robbed" a bank of $20 and waited for the cops or something? -nB
I would argue, that as opposed to going into a bank account, money saved by most consumers is going into debt payoff. I know in my family (and several of my friends/kids' school families) this is the case. Skimped expenses are being used to build some infrastructure (home repairs, improvements, a garden, etc.) and the rest is being sent in to creditors. I am very rusty on my econ 101, but IIRC (likely not) debt paydown is not considered savings (though has a similar result on the overall balance sheet).
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Which, incedentally is what these parts are :)
On a sidenote, I've been having this feeling for a while now that the CPU arms race has slowed down quite considerably.
For what it's worth I've felt that way for a while too. I recently got a new Core i7 system and *wow*.
I've been working on a 1080p video project (was on a Core2 Quad Extreem) and the wait time for render operations is waaaay lower on the core i7.
As to the heatsink issue, I think this CPU is being targeted at high end desktop users and such who usually just toss the OEM cooler in the bin. Since at 180W the OEM cooler would be rather expensive, I think this is mostly a way for Intel to keep the price about $25-$50 lower than it would be with the cooler included. Naturally, breaking the bundle will make the combined cost higher (part of that is justifiable based on seperate packaging, parts that have to be tracked/shipped/etc.) but yeah, I'll bet that you see maybe an overall increase of about $20/unit over the bundle price.
-nB
I would agree with you on that, and the comment from another poster about virtual containers. Sadly I do not dictate IT policy.
-nB
My machine takes about 15 min to boot.
SATA disk (not SSD) running full disk crypto, McAfee in uber paranoid mode, and an on-line backup util (connected net backup).
When all that is running together I can't even check e-mail.
-nB
I can agree with that, but not that W98+ better than dark matter.
-nB
I used to work in (NOR) flash at chip densities up to 4 gBit (shows how long it's been).
Perfect chips are gettable. Roughly the centermost third of an 8 inch wafer was flawless in my lab.
I would figure that on a 12 inch wafer (what most NAND flash is on) that if even the inner 10th is good, you would expect a fairly high yield of "perfect" chips.
or the one before that, or the one before that.
Regan wasn't all that bad.
you just gave me a great idea.
We'll make a party line of congresscritters (with rope or something that does not depend on one individual's structural integrity to maintain the line) and we'll tow it behind my hybrid* truck down the interstate as fast as I can go.
Thus we will "Tow the line".
-nB
*My truck runs on hydrogen atoms, conveniently packaged by holding them with carbon chains, polar bears, baby seals, and hot air from Prius owners.
My co-worker passed someone on the freeway this morning driving well below the speed limit in the fast lane watching a movie on their tablet...
they should be charged as if a DUIs (Driving under the influence of stupid...)
Many of my friends are families of 5-7 (6 being the overwhelming mean). My family is 4, but my kids have friends, thus a vehicle that seats 6 is relatively mandatory. Weight doesn't factor into it at all, thus I would say is a fairly mean spirited ad hominem.
Average cars do not cost a million quid and more.
lots of the F1 money goes into the chassis.
I don't know about his wife, but mine did ;)
My employer does.
We have:
-one converted VW rabbit
-one Tesla
-one sparrow
-one electric bike/moped frankin-thingy (not sure if it's even street legal)
This out of a population of ~6000 employees. I inquired about what if more people start ddriving electrics, the answer from facilities was we'll add capacity.
The current charging pedestals are the old GM EV1/EV2 units with 110/20, 110/30, 208/30 taps bolted to the sides.
the 208/30's were added for the Tesla about 2 months ago by his request.
-nB
I'll contribute a gold star as well.
Yeah, but he was at the bottom of his class. only 4 people were below him.
heh
Really?
Seriously?
You realize that currently the government is obviously over its head WRT computer security. Having a team of grey hats that can see the challenge of hardening a massive network against a Chinese attack is being heartless?
Taking things to the extreme is never good in any argument. I'd like to think that I'm one of those black hats, but that doesn't mean I'd betray either my country or my personal morals. Where the two collide I likely would do nothing or flip a coin.
-nB
Honestly,
Had I no family ties out here on the left coast I would work for NSA.
There are a lot of things I can do (not that I'm a maestro by any stretch) that would help them, and since I'm really just a total nerd at heart, all they'd have to do is pay me enough to keep me in toys.
Sadly, I doubt they allow working remotely, and I really can't leave where I'm at. I have a good enough gig in a multinational corp in R&D/security already. It scratches most of the itches.
-nB
Why another bank?
Why not hold up a bank and tell the teller: now zero my debt balance and no one gets hurt.
(obviously a stupid criminal, but largely those that walk in to hold up a bank fit that description).
Wasn't there a guy just recently that "robbed" a bank of $20 and waited for the cops or something?
-nB
I would argue, that as opposed to going into a bank account, money saved by most consumers is going into debt payoff. I know in my family (and several of my friends/kids' school families) this is the case. Skimped expenses are being used to build some infrastructure (home repairs, improvements, a garden, etc.) and the rest is being sent in to creditors.
I am very rusty on my econ 101, but IIRC (likely not) debt paydown is not considered savings (though has a similar result on the overall balance sheet).
CA lottery is not taxed by the state (but it is taxed by the IRS).
I think MA is the same.
-nB
Science News carried a piece about how those machines are causing provable DNA damage. I would not let a child anywhere near one.
Yeah, well in the US they pat you on the UK fanny anyway. See they're being multicultural ;-)
Hmmm maybe I will fly to Oregon later in the year. I was going to drive (I rather dislike flying anyway).
Do you mean AC long distance transmission?
DC transmission is crap.
Strictly speaking low voltage/high current transmission is crap, but DC is way harder to transform into HVLC and back to LVHC than AC is.
-nB