Ok, so it's obvious that the people who write these specifications don't understand what they're doing, but it isn't too much of a stretch to assume that "5 years SQL Server 2005" means "5 years of SQL Server, incliding experience with SQL Server 2005".
Sadly, you'd tend to be wrong on that one. What generally ends up happening from what I've seen is something like this:
IT Manager: "We need someone with experience in SQL Server 2005" HR Drone: "Okay." *HR Drone goes off and writes requirements* Drone to him/herself: "Well, experienced should be about 5 years " *writes down five years SQL Server 2005* "And while we're at it..." *Adds in some other jargon - MCSE, A+, CCNA, MIC, KEY, MOUSE...*
And after all that's done, not only has HR *written* the "requirements", but they're the first roadblock to getting to the hiring manager, so if you don't have *everything* on their checklist, they tend to toss your resume in the trashcan.
if we'd have wanted to hire recent graduates, we'd have damn well hired them. I was particularly highlighting the shortage of SKILLED developers.
Pardon my stepping into this little lovefest, but there's something that you're missing - *most* companies out there are clamoring for "skilled" developers even for *entry level* positions (I kid you not. I've seen postings listed as "Entry Level" where they demanded 5 years of experience).
To top it off, they refuse to even talk to someone who is missing just one of the things on their checklist - usually due to incompetent HR departments or unrealistic expectations on the part of middle managers (which is generally even funnier/sadder due to the extremely lowball salary offering).
The person you went off on made quite a logical assumption given the current market and hiring processes that you were yet another one of those. Instead of blowing up, try explaining your position in greater detail calmly and politely. You might find that you would have cut off a lot of the (honestly well-deserved) snarky comments ahead of time if you had done so.
In Ohio, Hillary "trounced" Obama in the rural areas which are predominately white and conservative
Southern Ohio is a hotbed of racist sentiment. It's really rather infuriating at times.
I could also go on about how foolish it is for the general populace in this area to be so conservative because it only hurts them economically and in other ways, but there's really no point...
I really prefer paper, but I have to admit that I do try to find electronic copies of my books so I can take them with me if I'm on the road. It's sort of a pain to take a bookshelf full of paper books with you all over the place.
I wish more authors would just include a CD with the book that has an electronic copy of the book on it so I didn't have to hunt all over the place for them.
Okay, a new edition being out explains the book review. I saw this one and went "WTF? I've had this book for probably 4 or 5 *years* now. It's a little late to do a review isn't it?"
And when it comes to things like government, they *shouldn't* trust the elders because the watchers need to be watched. Not to mention the fact that many politicians are not acting in the best interest of the people which they are supposed to serve even if they aren't being downright hostile to their constituents.
Blindly trusting and following a government, among other things, leads to the erosion of rights - slowly over a period of decades, and it seems that the realization that this is what has been happening both in the US and the UK is starting to dawn on mainstream society. Whether or not the populace will try to change that is yet to be seen.
Indeed. Add to that the fact that a lot of the old-guard upper level Microsofties are retiring, and it makes sense that their strategies are changing a little with the moves into new markets via purchasing companies - new people in charge, new plans for growth.
Well...not my *left* one. That one's my favourite, you see. I know you're not supposed to have favourites, but I can't help it.
You people are all going about it wrong. You shouldn't trade your left nut. You should trade somebody else's left nut. This is a business proposition after all. *grin*
My son uses the Internet a lot and doesn't have my childhood habit of day long walks in the country
I think a lot of us would benefit from taking more day long walks. We, as a society, need to be more active and be outdoors more often in my opinion. That includes me of late as I've been cooped up and otherwise preoccupied with things.
When I was a kid, as in less than 11, during the holidays I'd leave after breakfast, taking a packed lunch, and spend the entire day alone in the countryside (in England, so we're not talking wilderness here).
I did much the same thing. My family has a farm that's about 350 acres split between fields and woods. I spent a lot of time roaming it and the neighboring farms as a kid. I'd grab my pack, a little food, and disappear for a couple of days at a time during the summer as a kid.
And I just don't mean integrating the technology itself, but integrating your firm's goals with what vendors wish to give you? Or integrating the expectations of many departments and keeping them all on the same page? Or even members of your team?
Frighteningly enough, I've actually had experience in the above, so the general answer tends to be yes =]
Most meetings that I know of which happened because of the internet worked out quite well. In fact, I've known several people like your daughter who met people online that they later married (and I'm glad things worked out for her. It's always nice when that happens).
I think I had my first face to face encounter with someone I initially met online when I was 15 or 16. Most of the people I met that way have been well worth knowing.
I got to know some people that I became very good friends with that way. Heck, some of them are more like family than certain members of my biological family. There have been instances when one or more of us have traveled halfway across the country because one of us has needed help (which is something that, in my experience, quite a few biological family members don't do).
Then again, because of the experiences I've had, I've become of the opinion that, as you grow older, your real friends basically *become* your family and end up being more tight-knit than the one you were born into ever was.
As for kids out-pacing their parents, I have to say that my parents didn't know probably 90% of what I did, tech or not. It wasn't because they weren't involved parents (in fact, at times, they were downright overbearing), but rather because I'm fairly private and had/have an independent streak several miles wide.
And yes, I'm one of those pesky 20-somethings (though I feel a lot older than that half the time) =]
After seeing several editions of 20/20 where they set up sting after sting, typically using an undercover female cop to pose as a much younger girl, I'm not so sure it's all that uncommon.
It's a lot less common than they'd like you to believe. It's sort of like the razorblades and used needles in Halloween candy thing in the 80's. It's the press sensationalizing something and making it sound widespread and ominous in order to get viewers and, consequently, ad revenue.
Further, we have what seems to be an epidemic of female adults in trusted positions going after young males (13-17).
Same answer as above.
kids need to wise up to the potential dangers
Kids are like everyone else - some of them do stupid things and some don't. As a teenager, I met a lot of people in person that I first met online, but that was a while back (I'm 27 now). I was smart about it and I was also pretty much an abductor's worst nightmare considering that I was the size of the defensive linemen on my high school's football team and studied martial arts from about the time I was 6.
I met a lot of really good friends that way. Met a few jerks too, but you'll have that. Never got into anything that I would have had trouble getting out of though.
I find it amusing that you think I'm a troll when the truth is that I use both Windows and Linux. Have for years, and I see the pros and cons in each.
You, on the other hand, seem to like to repeat the same thing over and over again, ignoring valid arguments to the contrary or calling them "misrepresentations" or "outright lies".
Code isn't better because it's "free", and the *vast* majority of people who use open source have no desire to muck about with the code.
As for all of the issues with open source software getting resolved, that's just silly. There will *always* be problems with code - open or closed. And I have to tell you that simply acknowledging a problem, while nice, doesn't do a whole lot without actually doing something to solve it (before you say "you could fix it yourself", re-read the previous paragraph).
Consider that maybe the majority of Slashdot has good reasons for believing as we do.
It could be that so many of them have bought into Stallman's rhetoric that all software should be "Free" and that it's evil for it to be otherwise. It's a holy war with him, as well as his followers, and it's not something that's helping his cause.
You have to love how MS bashing gets modded up and pointing out problems with open source tools usually either gets ignored, flamed, or modded into oblivion.
Software has problems. All of it. It's an imperfect creation made by imperfect people.
I've always kind of laughed at the "must be able to multitask" requirements.
Ask yourself why they want that. In a lot of cases, it's because they want people to do the job of more than one person. It's the same reason they try to get people to work 70 hours a week (and, sadly, some of the people that work for them fall for it and even think it's "macho" to trade their entire waking life for a paycheck).
I think it depends on what you're doing and how you define "every so often".
Doing something different every couple of hours for a little while provides a mental break from the task at hand. Having to constantly switch between things, on the other hand, causes you more stress and makes you less effective as a general rule.
I've always thought a flash mob would be interesting, but I would think the cops would be suspicious of a large group of people in trench coats suddenly starting to gather...:P
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Okay, remind me to bring my spear and not my walking stick when I visit the Ooga Chaka tribe.
I tend to prefer swords, but I can deal with a spear. =]
Ok, so it's obvious that the people who write these specifications don't understand what they're doing, but it isn't too much of a stretch to assume that "5 years SQL Server 2005" means "5 years of SQL Server, incliding experience with SQL Server 2005".
Sadly, you'd tend to be wrong on that one. What generally ends up happening from what I've seen is something like this:
IT Manager: "We need someone with experience in SQL Server 2005"
HR Drone: "Okay."
*HR Drone goes off and writes requirements*
Drone to him/herself: "Well, experienced should be about 5 years "
*writes down five years SQL Server 2005*
"And while we're at it..."
*Adds in some other jargon - MCSE, A+, CCNA, MIC, KEY, MOUSE...*
And after all that's done, not only has HR *written* the "requirements", but they're the first roadblock to getting to the hiring manager, so if you don't have *everything* on their checklist, they tend to toss your resume in the trashcan.
if we'd have wanted to hire recent graduates, we'd have damn well hired them. I was particularly highlighting the shortage of SKILLED developers.
Pardon my stepping into this little lovefest, but there's something that you're missing - *most* companies out there are clamoring for "skilled" developers even for *entry level* positions (I kid you not. I've seen postings listed as "Entry Level" where they demanded 5 years of experience).
To top it off, they refuse to even talk to someone who is missing just one of the things on their checklist - usually due to incompetent HR departments or unrealistic expectations on the part of middle managers (which is generally even funnier/sadder due to the extremely lowball salary offering).
The person you went off on made quite a logical assumption given the current market and hiring processes that you were yet another one of those. Instead of blowing up, try explaining your position in greater detail calmly and politely. You might find that you would have cut off a lot of the (honestly well-deserved) snarky comments ahead of time if you had done so.
What do forks have do to with open source?
:P
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In Ohio, Hillary "trounced" Obama in the rural areas which are predominately white and conservative
Southern Ohio is a hotbed of racist sentiment. It's really rather infuriating at times.
I could also go on about how foolish it is for the general populace in this area to be so conservative because it only hurts them economically and in other ways, but there's really no point...
I really prefer paper, but I have to admit that I do try to find electronic copies of my books so I can take them with me if I'm on the road. It's sort of a pain to take a bookshelf full of paper books with you all over the place.
I wish more authors would just include a CD with the book that has an electronic copy of the book on it so I didn't have to hunt all over the place for them.
It can't be free because the author wants to get paid for his work on it.
But they can make their money selling documenta.... oh wait.
(sorry. I *had* to heh)
How will they pursue piracy cases without a Navy?
With law Ninjas
Honestly speaking, hacking *is* an exercise in exploiting code in ways that it wasn't originally meant to be used...
While sort of sensationalist in the opinion of some people, it's an accurate title.
Okay, a new edition being out explains the book review. I saw this one and went "WTF? I've had this book for probably 4 or 5 *years* now. It's a little late to do a review isn't it?"
Agreed that it's a good book.
Kids, OTOH, do not "trust" the elders,
And when it comes to things like government, they *shouldn't* trust the elders because the watchers need to be watched. Not to mention the fact that many politicians are not acting in the best interest of the people which they are supposed to serve even if they aren't being downright hostile to their constituents.
Blindly trusting and following a government, among other things, leads to the erosion of rights - slowly over a period of decades, and it seems that the realization that this is what has been happening both in the US and the UK is starting to dawn on mainstream society. Whether or not the populace will try to change that is yet to be seen.
Indeed. Add to that the fact that a lot of the old-guard upper level Microsofties are retiring, and it makes sense that their strategies are changing a little with the moves into new markets via purchasing companies - new people in charge, new plans for growth.
Well...not my *left* one. That one's my favourite, you see. I know you're not supposed to have favourites, but I can't help it.
You people are all going about it wrong. You shouldn't trade your left nut. You should trade somebody else's left nut. This is a business proposition after all. *grin*
My son uses the Internet a lot and doesn't have my childhood habit of day long walks in the country
I think a lot of us would benefit from taking more day long walks. We, as a society, need to be more active and be outdoors more often in my opinion. That includes me of late as I've been cooped up and otherwise preoccupied with things.
When I was a kid, as in less than 11, during the holidays I'd leave after breakfast, taking a packed lunch, and spend the entire day alone in the countryside (in England, so we're not talking wilderness here).
I did much the same thing. My family has a farm that's about 350 acres split between fields and woods. I spent a lot of time roaming it and the neighboring farms as a kid. I'd grab my pack, a little food, and disappear for a couple of days at a time during the summer as a kid.
That's because the brain slugs got there before the zombies.
That way scumbags like Strom that have been there cince the civil war will be controlled.
If he's still in office, he's one dedicated zombie considering the fact that he died in 2003.
And I just don't mean integrating the technology itself, but integrating your firm's goals with what vendors wish to give you? Or integrating the expectations of many departments and keeping them all on the same page? Or even members of your team?
Frighteningly enough, I've actually had experience in the above, so the general answer tends to be yes =]
Agreed on basically everything.
Most meetings that I know of which happened because of the internet worked out quite well. In fact, I've known several people like your daughter who met people online that they later married (and I'm glad things worked out for her. It's always nice when that happens).
I think I had my first face to face encounter with someone I initially met online when I was 15 or 16. Most of the people I met that way have been well worth knowing.
I got to know some people that I became very good friends with that way. Heck, some of them are more like family than certain members of my biological family. There have been instances when one or more of us have traveled halfway across the country because one of us has needed help (which is something that, in my experience, quite a few biological family members don't do).
Then again, because of the experiences I've had, I've become of the opinion that, as you grow older, your real friends basically *become* your family and end up being more tight-knit than the one you were born into ever was.
As for kids out-pacing their parents, I have to say that my parents didn't know probably 90% of what I did, tech or not. It wasn't because they weren't involved parents (in fact, at times, they were downright overbearing), but rather because I'm fairly private and had/have an independent streak several miles wide.
And yes, I'm one of those pesky 20-somethings (though I feel a lot older than that half the time) =]
After seeing several editions of 20/20 where they set up sting after sting, typically using an undercover female cop to pose as a much younger girl, I'm not so sure it's all that uncommon.
It's a lot less common than they'd like you to believe. It's sort of like the razorblades and used needles in Halloween candy thing in the 80's. It's the press sensationalizing something and making it sound widespread and ominous in order to get viewers and, consequently, ad revenue.
Further, we have what seems to be an epidemic of female adults in trusted positions going after young males (13-17).
Same answer as above.
kids need to wise up to the potential dangers
Kids are like everyone else - some of them do stupid things and some don't. As a teenager, I met a lot of people in person that I first met online, but that was a while back (I'm 27 now). I was smart about it and I was also pretty much an abductor's worst nightmare considering that I was the size of the defensive linemen on my high school's football team and studied martial arts from about the time I was 6.
I met a lot of really good friends that way. Met a few jerks too, but you'll have that. Never got into anything that I would have had trouble getting out of though.
*shakes head*
I find it amusing that you think I'm a troll when the truth is that I use both Windows and Linux. Have for years, and I see the pros and cons in each.
You, on the other hand, seem to like to repeat the same thing over and over again, ignoring valid arguments to the contrary or calling them "misrepresentations" or "outright lies".
Code isn't better because it's "free", and the *vast* majority of people who use open source have no desire to muck about with the code.
As for all of the issues with open source software getting resolved, that's just silly. There will *always* be problems with code - open or closed. And I have to tell you that simply acknowledging a problem, while nice, doesn't do a whole lot without actually doing something to solve it (before you say "you could fix it yourself", re-read the previous paragraph).
Consider that maybe the majority of Slashdot has good reasons for believing as we do.
It could be that so many of them have bought into Stallman's rhetoric that all software should be "Free" and that it's evil for it to be otherwise. It's a holy war with him, as well as his followers, and it's not something that's helping his cause.
You have to love how MS bashing gets modded up and pointing out problems with open source tools usually either gets ignored, flamed, or modded into oblivion.
Software has problems. All of it. It's an imperfect creation made by imperfect people.
Because they are often used as leverage against everyone else.
"Jones works 70 hours a week. If you don't as well, we'll find people who will"
I've always kind of laughed at the "must be able to multitask" requirements.
Ask yourself why they want that. In a lot of cases, it's because they want people to do the job of more than one person. It's the same reason they try to get people to work 70 hours a week (and, sadly, some of the people that work for them fall for it and even think it's "macho" to trade their entire waking life for a paycheck).
I think it depends on what you're doing and how you define "every so often".
Doing something different every couple of hours for a little while provides a mental break from the task at hand. Having to constantly switch between things, on the other hand, causes you more stress and makes you less effective as a general rule.
I've always thought a flash mob would be interesting, but I would think the cops would be suspicious of a large group of people in trench coats suddenly starting to gather... :P