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Leaked RIAA Training Video
An anonymous reader writes "Gizmodo has a clip of that RIAA training video produced with the NDAA for US prosecutors that was leaked to torrent sites a few days ago. It argues they should pursue piracy cases because it leads to bigger and badder wares, like handguns, drugs, terrorist orgs, and hardcore repeat offender criminals. It's kind of sad how far they're stretching to bring law enforcement into the matter."
So they are saying that all lawyer are as white as snow?
Because, you know, terrorists always watch pirated movies and download pop albums, and they're constantly Torrenting weapons of mass destruction (though it takes awhile with their throughput).
RIAA, Homeland Security... who knew they were one and the same?
Laughter is the Spackle of the Soul.
A CD today, tomorrow the world! arrrrrrrrrrr....
How will they pursue piracy cases without a Navy?
[Fuck Beta]
o0t!
This is just the same old "gateway crime" argument, which, if history is any example, will inevitably be scientifically proven false by statistical studies showing (perhaps a correlation, but) no causation.
All agressive prosecutors (persecutors?) will fall back on this precept when it starts to become clear the "crime" they're fighting against is victimless and thus shouldn't be considered a crime at all.
I find this is mostly caused by greed and ignorance on the part of the persecuting party and any agencies they employ in their unethical battle.
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that people involved in piracy of US copyright overseas may be involved in organized crime, it doesn't seem to match the profile of the people they are suing. If they want to fight organized crime, terrorists, etc, then shouldn't years of effort resulted in at least one lawsuit against a terrorist?
That music downloads only led to communism.
http://www.modernhumorist.com/mh/0004/propaganda/mp3.cfm
NO. Fucking stop it.
STOP RIGHT THERE GOVERNMENT.
I am not going to let you use my tax money to start a "War on Piracy" - just like your dumbass "War on Drugs"
STOP. BAD DOG! NO BISCUIT FOR YOU!
Seriously, the only way you can teach these fucking politicians is by hitting them in the nose.
This is the one with Tom Cruise, right?
I have not seen the video but I find it quite humorous when some organization's materials for training/brainwashing are leaked and it makes headlines. I.E. Scientology, RIAA, etc. What would even be funnier if the RIAA took the same position the Church of Scientology did and tried to repress this video.
Repression of information is the first sign of a flawed ideology. As we've seen in many court cases in which they've shut down systems, the RIAA is against any kind of information sharing via P2P software and therefore has a flawed ideology.
My work here is dung.
Music piracy is the new gateway drug, I can't way to see the propaganda, sorry "educational" videos in the style of those movies such as Reefer Madness.
Innocent teenager downloads a couple of songs with some mates off the internet for a bit of a laugh.
Fast forward 6 months and he's wandering around the streets with a gun and portable hard drive leeching music off people at gunpoint.
OH GOD THE HUMANITY!!!!!!
It was the heady days of the dot com era, and I was but a wee lad hacking away in my bedroom. One fateful day I stumbled upon a website called Napster, and soon began downloading hordes of ill-gotten music. Before long, my insatiable craving for tunes led me to buy more hard drives, then a RAID enclosure, then an enterprise-level SAN... I should have seen the warning signs.
I gradually withdrew from my friends and family, unable to control my urge for more tunes. I knew it was wrong, but it felt so... right. I began using other filesharing software, and soon experienced strange hallucinations involving limes and wires. I told a friend about it, and he gave me some pills to help me sleep better at night. The troubling dreams and hallucinations faded, but now I couldn't stop taking the pills. Chain smoking, heavy drinking, and chronic pacing soon developed. I was having trouble concentrating on anything other than file swapping, and began using crack cocaine to improve my focus. My teeth began to loosen in their sockets, and I was fired from work after failing a drug test.
Now I live on the streets, feeding my addiction through unsecured wireless hotspots that I access through a Pentium 90 connected to an exercise bike generator. My crack cocaine consumption has skyrocketed due to my need to constantly pedal the bike lest my rig lose power. Heed my warning: sharing and downloading music will ruin your life! Contact your local RIAA liason to seek treatment immediately. It's not too late... friends don't let friends use filesharing software.
512 MB RAM, 20 GB disk, 200 GB transfer, five datacenters. $19.95/month.
If you have not seen the video you can search for it on piratebay.org
"I guess I'm gonna fade into Bolivian."
Drug dealers dont make enough money forcing them to supplement their income by pirating CDs? Maybe they are winning the war on drugs. The cheaper prices must be a garage sale like Toshiba is doing with HDDVD.
I am a free slashdotter. I will not be modded, blogged, DRM'd, patented, podcasted or RFID'd. My life is my own.
Noobs, err RIAA sucks.
Can we now have a bunch of idiots upload time lapse videos of clouds with synthesized voice overlays declaring the end of the RIAA?
Please?
Can we?
They can even wear Guy Fawkes masks if they want!
NewslilySocial News. No lolcats allowed.
That many of the 'artists' that the RIAA protects are hardcore repeat offender criminals that are pimping the handguns, drugs etc etc
fsckr.com - go fusk yourself!
The story forgot something...
...or search RIAA training video on piratebay
The link of the TORRENT
WTF this is just wrong, just because they download software doesn't mean they are gonna do drugs and such
that all my neighbors, relatives and friends are all wielding handguns, dealing drugs, and harboring terrorists? If that were the case, I don't think anybody would give a rat's ass about what the MAFIAA are calling "piracy".
I'm in the entertainment industry. I'm one of those corporate media whores who "hasn't come up with an original story in decades" and "keeps shoveling sellout pop shit down (your) throats" and "wouldn't know real talent if it walked up and kicked (me) in the balls." I'm part of the complex, epic machinery that creates the media that all of you "share" because it's all shit and worthless and you wouldn't bother downloading it if you weren't "sticking it to teh mang" and at the end of the day my rent and car payment and grocery store bills all depend on selling the stuff that you all pretend to loathe while you're copying it at terabytes per day.
And, sadly, all that being said I'd still rather have you guys steal all my work in "protest" than have the RIAA represent me and blame the Pirate Bay for 9/11, herpes, Ashlee Simpson's "career," and the fucking Kennedy assassination.
Seriously. I hate those assholes.
I still have rent to pay, though, so go buy a fucking CD you torrented or something, okay?
These guys DO know how to market a product! Maybe they should instead focus their efforts on non Brittany Spears style artists?
While it is good to have employees believe in the company I do not think that is what this video is about. They want high profile crime with media coverage to be associated with piracy. This will cement the "evil" in the publics view of piracy. Even if it is incidental, having that association there will eventually cement the opinion.
Its not saying where you find piracy there will be terrorism. They are saying to law enforcement to use piracy as an excuse to bust otherwise known criminals. This will lead to the association of piracy with hardened criminal activity. Mentioned frequently enough in the news it becomes a very powerful public education tool.
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Don't do that. That's illegal. RIAA might want to sue you.
*snicker*
You know that there are defense attorneys too, who defend people accused of filesharing, right?
And lawyers who sue the government to defend our civil liberties. And lawyers who make a living freeing people from death row. And lawyers who fight against injustice.
There's no such thing as "lawyers do ___." There are people who practice law on both sides of most issues. And lawyers as a group take plenty of criticism. Nobody's branding you a terrorist. Just pointing out that your facts are incomplete.
That must be why the RIAA is sueing twelve year olds and grandmothers; to protect America!
I hope their families die in a motor vehicle collision, pinned under a truck of blank media.
The moment I read this I thought that they must have heard this song and said to themselves, "You know, this guy's got a great point here!" http://www.dontdownloadthissong.com/
Comon....this has got to be a hoax cc
Someone should make a video showing how money has ruined Britney Spear's life. If everyone had pirated her music and not gone to her concerts, she wouldn't have the problems she has today.
Do a public service, pirate music save the next Britney.
Most of us WANT you to lose your job. Nothing against you personally. A lot of us know how you feel, stuck in a dieing job with bosses who don't understand what is happening with/to the world.
I don't hate your musicians, I just hate the fact that some spoiled brat can make twice as much as me with half the effort and no college degree. I hate that those brats are being taken advantage of by overgrown bullies that make more money than I can, with low level degrees from classes whose main requirements to graduate are Show Up, and Bullshit Convincingly. I hate that there are sound technicians who took years out of their lives to learn how to use complex machines to make music sound better, when I can do the same damn thing with a $500 microphone, $1000 computer, and free/second-hand software that requires a week of spare time to master ($500 mic optional, I've heard some damn good professional-quality music come from a $25 mic).
Lucky for you for as bad as your industry's future looks, it will take quite a while to crash and burn. Enjoy it while it lasts.
Just -1, Troll talking to another.
Federal prosecutors already know their jobs - that's how they got where they are, so I imagine they're a little skeptical about being "trained" by the RIAA. On the other hand, if the RIAA were to offer them some financial assistance...maybe we should start to worry.
RIAA: "When we followed leads gathered in the process of prosecuting people for piracy we found other people we could prosecute for drug possession, terrorism, and murder!"
J: "Are you trying to say that the people you originally investigated were guilty of drug possession, terrorism, and murder, and that all people you intend to have prosecuted for piracy will also be guilty of drug possession, terrorism, and murder?"
RIAA: "Well, erm.. no..."
J: "So.. what are you saying?"
RIAA: "Well, piracy could benefit drug dealers, terrorists, and murderers, and so you should prosecute pirates with heavy penalties!"
J: "Have you filed charges against, say, The Pirate Bay, for sponsoring drug dealing, terrorism, and murder?"
RIAA: "Well... no..."
J: "Wouldn't you say that anybody providing a service to unknown clients, e.g. a website, may quite innocently service drug dealers, terrorists, and murderers in exactly the same way it would service law abiding citizens, making just as much differentiation between the two as your local laundromat?"
RIAA: "Ummm... we need a recess..."
...portable tunez detectors so that the "hero" fuzztapo could set up "random courtesy music security checkpoints". You run the perp (all humans are perps by default now, get with the program) through the detector, and if found with "dangerous illegal assault tunes", they must immediately provide hard copy receipts for every purchased song in their collection they are carrying, and if not, they must be tased, pepper sprayed, given a few love taps from a "baton", "taken down", cuffed, hooded, "detained" and taken to an "undisclosed location" for "hard interrogation". National homelandz security is at stake here! We must stop music tarizm!
If they show this to the DA does the Defense have the right to view it or can the RIAA try to keep it from them.
"Reefer Madness" for a new generation.
I've calculated my velocity with such exquisite precision that I have no idea where I am.
and you're misrepresenting yourself for fun, you rock dude
if you are actually who you say you are, you rock dude
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
Is to look at going a more indipendant distribution route. Talk to someone like CD Baby and maybe start selling through them and on your website. If you want a way to sell your stuff that is outside of the RIAA controlled crap, well there you go.
You forgot about the "Legit America Act". Let's pass it and save our children! Hell, let's amend the constitution to make sure our children will be safe from illegal downloads!
Relax, the RIAA is just speaking from *personal* experience. Pursuing piracy cases has lead them to become hardcore repeat offender criminals. The video is a *warning* : if it can happen to them, it can happen to you - ooooooooo
It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
some sort of protectors who would present a defense against these bloodthirsty prosecuting attorneys and the corrupt legal system.
The only difference between a defense attourney and a prosecuting attourney is which one fell asleep during the bar exam.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTbX1aMajow
Bittorrent == WMD (Weapon of Mass Downloading)?
For once the Slashdot effect does good!
I knew a few broken windows could spiral into a bad neighborhood, I didn't know copyright infringement could do similar.
Economic shifts and dislocations happen to all of us. Why should you be immune?
I started out in hedge funds. Then Long Term Capital Management flamed out and took most of that industry with it.
I taught myself to program and got into I.T. That was a great ride, but then the dot-bomb happened and took most of that industry in New York with it. The demand for I.T. recovered, but the clients and companies decided to outsource most of it to India instead of hiring back trained natives.
Advertising, however, continued, so I switched to project management for interactive. I had to learn, shudder, to deal with people. But I sucked it up and did it because it was necessary.
In short, re-tooling and acquiring new skills has to be part of your stock in trade in this Brave New World, compadre. Being "creative" does not bestow some magical immunity from that necessity, I'm afraid.
But look on the bright side, being "creative" should give you a leg up in figuring out what to do next. And figure it out you should, because entertainment as we know it is about to fall off a cliff.
Do what you can, with what you have, where you are.
Is a video about how to falsify being an expert witness considered even legal? Or does it open a new can of worms on that front.
I was one of the first pirates that got caught under the .NET act. i am an avid slashdot reader and love
.5 years in jail (a real federal prision, mind you) that I still work for a company, that still pirates, and it's so rampant now with volume licensing I still have learned that the lesson is: I AM A TERRORIST.
the articles and this one certainly caught my eye.
I was involved with piracy for one simple reason: education.
to pirate a software was to learn how to use it. Then, build a career on the knowledge
you learned. since knowledge is priceless (until the vapid idea of intellectual property was
invented to draw boundaries in our imaginations) I was not considering piracy a crime, since it was a COPY that I had no funds to pay for.
a Copy of MS Office was 499$. I thought it was worth 499. I just couldn't afford it being a latch key kid with a limited income.
I pirated my whole computer career. Getting my first copy of Windows NT enabled me to have cutting edge technology. Linux would have been free, but I was interested in making a career and took the VOLE path.
Anyway, it fascinates me that even after I was prosecuted by the FBI for conspiracy to commit copyright infringement and spent 3 years probation and
I will always be a terrorist.
I make bombs in my basement.
(I'm being fascecous however you spell it).
I am causing poverty in foreign countries.
bullshit.
the question will always remain: did I ever deprive someone of the money (hence STEALING) or did I never give them the possibility to MAKE the money (hence, piracy).
It was already decided in the courts (in 1984) and the politicians love to hear MPAA and RIAA sing praises that they are LOSING money.
They LOST the opportunity for the MAINTAIN THE VALUE of the COPY of the PROPERTY BY REQUIRING a LICENSE of something that you cannot CONTROL (a copy, either heard through OSMOSIS or from free marketing from your friend whom just got this really cool CD) or was it because The idea of *ECONOMY* HAS CHANGED.
Now go make some laws that surround the new ECONOMY where the works are judged VALUED by their CONTENT and you have "RIAA and MPAA making pieces of SHIT and demanding payment for it".
Still the same argument. SOMEONE needs money for their hard work.
Why can't we all just do what we ENJOY to do. Do you really need BLING on that finger to make your image? Do you need that money to afford that cocaine and 40's you drink and the mercedes you drive? Do you REALLY need my 15$ to put you at the top of your game?
Cause all I need was a copy of that CD to tell me IT WAS A PIECE OF SHIT.
Yep. The real problem with copyright infringement is that it doesn't sound harmful, and even when its effects are explained in a clear manner, the long term nature of the problem and the economics base of the argument belie its urgency. It's a similar problem with global warming. There's serious danger that there will be some very negative effects to us, but the whole theory is just dry science and the scope is very long term. The only way it has made it into the public mind-space is through the sometimes outrageous speculation over what will happen to the societies of the world. It's the same tricks are being played here, just with the RIAA less hesitant than the scientific community to really stretch the truth for a good crisis.
You know, there is a difference between trolling and pointing out the flaws in your reasoning. Just saying.
...to read an anti-racism AC post. Until you realize (s)he didn't read two comments down within the same thread for the obvious answer.
Smart, Private, Good-natured: You only get to pick two!
Just -1, Troll talking to another.
And which one are you saying "fell asleep"?
The prosecutors, who will do anything to get a conviction, to further their careers, instead of examing the actual damage that was done to society?
Or a defense attorney, who must go up against these bloodthirsty ladder-climbers, to ensure that everyone (and that means YOU) is able to fight the towering montrosity that is the State?
The smartest lawyer I know is a defense attorney. He spent years managing the Public Defenders office in a very large east coast city, and now is in private practice.
...are the guys that produced this video. TFA is got the wrong ETLA, because it isn't the RIAA.
This has a number of interesting consequences, not the least of which is that the RIAA probably doesn't have copyright of the video, and the NDAA might not issue a takedown notice to say... YouTube. Also, this indicates that at the NDAA had some interest in what the RIAA has to say, though I'd be surprised if it wasn't the RIAA that made the first phone call.
I will point out you agree I need defense from this Guild. To bad it's will be some Guild member making a deal for a reduced sentence even if I am innocent because I don't have the money to pay them enough to stay out of their prison. Lawyers get their due no matter what.
Your lawyer doesn't get to choose whether you accept a plea deal or not. You have the exclusive right to accept or reject a plea bargain.
And if you don't have a lawyer, the US Constitution mandates that the state give you one. Many state constitutions also require the same. If you want to go to trial, it's your right to do so and it's your right to get taxpayers to foot the bill.
Hate to ruin the fun here... seriously I love all of you... but no where in the video were they suggesting that piracy and terrorism, murder or drugs are related.
All that was suggested was that if officers wanted into a suspects home, but did not have enough evidence to issue a warrant on the suspected charges alone, they could use piracy as a means to get that warrant. The intent, which should be obvious by now, is to get into the house so that evidence of terrorism, drug trafficking or violent intent involving firearms might then be 'coincidentally' discovered.
And hey... sounds like it's a great strategy. How many people do you know that haven't pirated anything at all? The police just found themselves a skeleton key.
so yeah, 4 years of watching subed anime is going to lead me to smoking weed, taking heroin, and bombing the white house.
I can see Bush figuring that attacking Sweden would be a piece of cake, seeing as how they're a neutral country with no army.
handguns, drugs, terrorist orgs, and hardcore repeat offender criminals
Yes, I can see why piracy would lead to all of that.
Copyright infringement, on the other hand, just leads to filling up a hard drive with stuff you don't use much.
Ease up a bit. I'm starting to think I'm crazy, as no one else seems to have grasped that they aren't saying that Terrorists, Murderers and Drug Dealers are all also pirates...
//just happen to stumble on// Bobs coke stash. They don't care about the piracy angle so much as the fact that it can be used as a tool for other means.
What they're saying is that law enforcement can use piracy to access suspected terrorists, murderers and drug dealers property by means of warrants that they wouldn't otherwise be able to obtain.
They're suggesting that Bob, a drug dealer, by chance also pirates Britney Spears MP3's. So the cops use that as reason for a warrant. While searching Bobs apartment for Britney Spears related material, they also
Going after piracy cases leads to terrorist organizations-- you know, organizations which terrorize people.
What they mean is that going after piracy helps bolster one of these organizations, known as the RIAA.....
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oh yea - and about those "please buy this record if you like it" things.
... I got NO LYRICS ... and I got no messy cd to get SCRATCHED that won't play in my cd player anymore if it gets dropped or stepped on. I still have the soundtrack I purchased of "Robin Hood prince of theives" from 1992. The cd is falling apart (the cd's really DO only last 7 years!)
I bought 5 records last year on itunes. I randomly picked them, and I work out at the gym to them almost daily. Their quality is deteriorated compared to purchase of a real CD, but on my ipod, I don't care.
I used my Mastercard and itunes has receipt of the purchases.
I didn't make backups and I was mad when I lost my hard drive. Investment gone.
Itunes does NOT offer a redownload of lost purchases. One of the caveats of purchasing online I guess.
I got NO pamphlet (but a pretty GIF picture appears on my ipod)
Did you know that a CD has a life expectancy of 7 years? Digital Copies do not have an expectancy. Just burn and go.
But even in RAW mode a CD mastered on a computer does NOT sound the same as mastered in a studio.
There is a discernable difference. ANALOG all the way. But not on the internet. Sampling rates,
Compression rates... You name it, it CHANGES the way the music SOUNDS. It's not just the artists that supposedly suck, it's the MASTERING behind the music that suckith.
And with studio software being
so affordable, you can have a professional studio on your LAPTOP.
So about my music... they were AFFORDABLE now on itunes so I even repurchased them, even after losing the hard drive. Why didn't
I pirate them? I already bought them, why not PIRATE them. I should do so now, since wouldn't that be LEGAL? I already PAID for them. so why not torrent them?
They content this is not legal. It will be decided soon though, I am hoping.
Does that make me reformed after spending time
in jail ? Well I'm more educated in piracy. Spending 6 months in jail I shared a walkman with someone
and thought alot about piracy and the ipod wasn't invented yet. We listened to radio stations. I loved the fact they would play the same music in rotation. Like every well, say, 2 hours, you could DEPEND on hearing the same set of music that the corporations were pushing. I was entertained.
Well I would have bought the cd when I got out of jail, but then I was on to other music. They got old.
Back when the internet wasn't here, when I had bought a CD, I would put it in my cd case, and I had a pamphlet
that came with the CD. If it was a really cool cd, say, hmm... DANCE MIX USA 94 or something, then
I would have listened to it every day, payed for it in a store like BEST BUY, and my friends might have even BORROWED IT. Not to copy it (and if they did, it was to a TAPE COPY or they just went out and bought a CD of it) or we TRADED CDS that were legally purchased. and I guess using that
outdated model someone would have been payed. They didn't bitch back then. But Now I go to a website and download a dj mix with
a bunch of the latest shitnat cause the dj's are REALLY good. I kinda out grew DANCE MIX USA 94.
Or I go to itunes, and get a copy of something (that's only 128k mind you. The quality SUCKS compared
to original CD's).
That AAC compression is good... but nothing like a 44 khz true 1400 meg wave file pounding in your ears through your alpine. Can you tell a difference? I CAN. I spent my whole life listening to music through high end systems. My first 5.1 system was when I was 18!
I guess my point is, I bought the music then, I buy it now. We ALL buy it some way. Even if we are listening to it and LIKE it, we are buying into the idea that it's appeasable. But is it appeasable to return to an OUTDATED economic system that will never survive given people's ability to EASILY recreate a copy of a cd? DRM is great, if it didn't tie the CD to the PERSON. It should have tied the CD to the REPUTATION. I mentio
Is the RIAA going to sue people for pirating their anti-piracy video?
"Giving money and power to governments is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys." - P.J. O'Rourke
*two brothers, Billy and Timmy come home, Billy is listening to his iPod*
Mom: Billy, did you legally obtain all the music on that iPod?
Billy: Yes, mom.
Mom: Mrs. Johnson told me her son lent you a CD... you know that's piracy!
Billy: But, mom!
Mom: No "buts"! You're grounded and no internet for you until we're sure the RIAA isn't tapping our computer!
Billy: But Timmy stabbed a kid at school today!
Timmy: The voices tell me to hurt people.
Mom: Did he violate international copyright law?
Billy: There were cops and an ambulence and everything!
Mom: You didn't answer my question.
Billy: No. He didn't.
Mom: That's right. Now you go to your room. Timmy, would you like some ice cream?
Timmy: I want to burn things.
This sig is false.
Can I get it with Mike Nelson rifftrax?
This sig is false.
What do you mean? Don't most music pirates aspire to be international gun runners?
I am becoming gerund, destroyer of verbs.
The big question of the day: Was the video DRM?
You know, there is a difference between trolling and pointing out the flaws in your reasoning. Just saying.
Have you never torrented V for Vendetta?
... not a spoiled brat.
I'm a musician part-time myself, invested in my computerless studio with many reasons (mainly because a computer cannot give me the freedom I got) and have been working for over 15 years long in the music industry. I've started with 12" records and am now trying to get something back from my investment by producing and live events.
I had to work and fight hard to get this maintained, to keep my collection fresh, since music is NOT one of the cheapest products around. The filtering process by itself to only keep the best of the best and ignoring the rest is even a job by itself since there is a lot of crap out there for the same/a higher price against the better creations. I've never had anyone paying for my equipment or records; it's all coming from my own sweat.. no spoiling and most of these complex machinery exists with a good reason.
Next to that I am having my college degree which I am not even practicing. So, I wonder, what's your point of hostility?
It doesn't mean because people like to save their creativity to CD we are all sleeping with the RIAA...
I know I'm not talking about everyone, since I got only my own experiences to talk about; although; I'd suggest you to do the same.
I don't even have to reply with the "majority form" for that. Since "us" is so broad defined it has no leg to stand on.
The RIAA may be dying, music will live on; it's a form of communication, it would be the same to say English is dying. No way!
Music is an art; just like there will be painters and writers there will be musicians ready for the cause of delicate artistism.
(ps: I wouldn't give a shit less if the commercial top-50 music would die off,
since this is an artificial created beast from the recording industry without real grounds for art, only financial gain, which makes us with artistic intend look bad!)
--- I am known for the ones who want to find me on the net. Is that a privacy risk or a privilege? One might wonder..
Damn.
One swallow does not a fellatrix make
...and I'm not falling for this 2girls1cup shit *again*.
Who is General Failure and why is he reading my hard disk?
Northeast Region
John Curry
212-533-5869
Central Region
Deborah Robinson
610-521-8566
Western Region
Marcus Cohen
714-236-0830
Southern Region
Has anyone else thought about calling these numbers? Maybe give them a review of the video, debate copyright policy and enforcement, call them greedy assholes, etc?Matthew Kilgo
678-402-2000
...that there are known links between piracy and organised crime and dare I say it, probably even the T-word. BUT it's a tale of two storeys. There're the people that do piracy for money involving duplication, forgery and sale that cost the recordig industry serious $$$ as they target people who would be paying for genuine media. These are the guys that make money and do bad things. The problem of course is that the RIAA et al seem happier to publicly go after the people that copy friends music at home. You know, the ones that generally didn't have any money to give the RIAA in the first place and aren't copying for profit, so no real monetary losses have even occured anyway.
All the over-excited comments here about people thinking the RIAA are calling them terrorists for copying CD's is jumping to conclusions and ignoring the above. Having said that the RIAA seem happy to let legal officials make the same mistake without clarification, and they are generally a complete bunch of c***s.
I love music and I love musicians. I think the only people that benefit from record sales should be the people that make the music and are involved in being creative. Bollocks to the execs and shareholders that took a beautiful business and turned it into a soul-less industry. Wouldn't it be nice if we could just go back to small record labels with no shareholder interest...
- Torrentrism/ist - and its equivalent in Dubya-speech: Torrism/ist
- Weapons of Mass[ive?] Distribution
Any others?
How about a training video for prosecuters showing them that investigating the crimes and questionable practices of the RIAA like stealing songrights from artists,enticing underage children into contracts and wasting the judiciaries time could lead to cocaine busts , pedophile rings, prostitution,political corruption and other organized crime rings?
Truth,folks,we just don't need the music industry for anything anymore.They're an outdated entity who's only purpose was ever as a middleman with their hand out.
We now have a level playing ground for musicians to do their own business with a much more sensible business model. Sell performance not copies.Even other methods were outlined in a recent slashdot story on Kevin Kelly and his view http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/kelly08/kelly08_index.html which makes complete crystal clarified sense.
Consider this the thrashing death throes of an obsolete industry who doesn't have the sense to quit trying to breath with the laundry bag over its head.
*Repent!Quit Your Job!Slack Off!The World Ends Tomorrow and You May Die!
Before Gonzalez erhhhmmm "retired" he tried to introduce a "copyright reform" bill. In it was a specific clause that required DHS to work RIAA.
The real irony is they only claim to be...
I have to offset this with the fact that they are the RIAA, nevertheless, combining these two opinions seems roughly logically consistent to me.
It seems that we have an infinite capability for deluding ourselves, usually as part of some egocentric strategy. Reason is useless when the opposition does not see the need for evidence.
After having a long discussion with a neocon, who believes that Iraq is responsible for the US's actions (blaming ones actions on another is kinda psychopathic), and from reading the dialogs of creation "scientists", it has become remarkably apparent that logical reasoning is an endless web of self-deception when it is not combined with evidence.
It is only recently that the union of evidence and reason was discovered by the Ionian greeks. Their ideas were squashed by Pythagoras, Plato and co., probably because evidence was scant for an unfair social heirachy with them at the top.
"Thinkers" have expelled a lot of hot air, to reason why they should have what they have, and take what they take. The sophistry of the RIAA is just one voice in a long history of "reason".
It's a sad fact of life, that ignorance has a dangerously profound power when combined with greed. So powerful is this ignorance, that we'll accept the products of science, yet reject the methodology.
Like all pain, suffering is a signal that something isn't right
Haha you Americans are so fucked (up) :-D
After this I don't think I can EVER buy another CD. I would rather download it off of a site...and send a check to the artist for 10 bucks an album...HECK its more than they will get the other way.
MORONS!
Emigrate to
Immigrate from
Seig Heil!!
Thanks,
The grammar Nazi
But I can't help but think that if the RIAA and MPAA and similar agencies quit pushing such draconian measures, quit hogging access to the music/movies/media we love, and lowered prices to reasonable levels with an appropriate portion being given to artists and writers would lead to more purchases.
Giving users what they want would help also. Quit promoting American Karaoke..err Idol type stuff and go back to discovering talent all over the country regardless of what they look like
That's the problem with current music offerings...Aretha Franklin, Mick Jagger, probably Elvis too, wouldn't make it on the radio today.
The entertainment industry is suffering because they are just not the only game in the house anymore. Video games, the Internet, and let's not forget the high cost of fuel and just living is causing people to stop buying luxury items. Music and movies are luxury items.
Is it 5:30 yet?
So, which is actually scarier:
1) The fact that the RIAA is trying to sell the concept that piracy leads other crimes
or
2) That law enforcement might actually believe them!?!?!
-- You can't idiot-proof anything, because they're always coming out with better idiots.
I can see why you posted AC.
I'm getting 500 kb/s, everyone on the internet is seeding it
Like handguns? Give me a break, in this country ( except for states that refuse to honor the constitution ) handguns are legal.
Actually, its rather offensive.
---- Booth was a patriot ----
How about a torrent search engine ... using Google's own custom search engine - see PiraBoogle.com - naughty Pirate Bay / naughty Google?