All Adult Channel who is going to distribute Vivids' online video is owned by CinemaNow.............how ironic.It just goes to show that its indusrty politics and Walmart that is getting in the way of this more efficient distribution Channel .
You can resell becuse DivX uses a superditribution style DRM that resets itsself like Trymedia does for games .
DivX DRM is account based so it reports back the everytime the account is acceesed. If 200 verifciation requests where coming from an account name the DivX would shut that accont down .
And remeber DRM is never foolproof,while the systems continue to send the customer the lock and the key.DivX as least offers cross platform solutions so interoperbality can not be used as an excuse to crack DRM .
Grid Netorks better pony up a large licencing fee to Peer Impact if they want to offer a incentive scheme seeing that Peer Impact's parent company holds this patent .
"Abstract of WO2005038617 Methods and computer systems for increasing the revenue stream from a work made available in digital form are provided. The methods and systems of the invention are particularly useful for musical, video, interactive game files, and artistic or commercial works that can be digitally copied and transferred or distributed, such as via the Internet. Embodiments of the present invention advantageously can form part of a greater system that provides access to digital forms of numerous works or groups of works, such as those that are copyrighted, to thereby extend the revenue-producing capabilities for the copyright holder of digital or digitized works to bona fide purchasers of those works. In turn, bona fide purchasers of a work who later provide copies of that work or other authorized works, or provide transfer or distribution bandwidth with respect to that work or other authorized works may receive incentives. Advantageously, no central warehouse of digital content is necessary with the present methods, and users may introduce authorized content into the present system in a controlled manner, through peer-to-peer systems, while realizing economic incentives for doing so. The present systems and methods also provide a myriad of embodiments of incentive and apportioning payment schedules, configurations and properties." http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=WO20 05038617&F=0
Chris Anderson the Editor in Chief and the Author of the soon to be released Long Tail Book posted this on his blog last year why the labels need variable pricing and the fixed priced model is flawed and the reason that Steve Jobs opposes it is because hes in the business of selling iPods and the sale of iTunes music is only a secondary part of his business.
Could the labels actually be right?
Ipod_although it's tempting to assume that the evil record labels are once again trying to gouge us, there's some sense in their latest efforts to get Apple to abandon it's one-size-fits-all pricing model. A New York Times article over the weekend reported on the ongoing struggle between the labels and Apple over its fixed $0.99 price point. The labels would like to sell most new music for more--$1.49/track?-- while older or more obscure tracks could go for less.
There's plenty to like about variable pricing. For starters, it's almost always the most efficient way to maximize markets of disparate goods and customers. As Barry Ritholtz puts it:
It's a basic rule of economics: goods that have elastic demand (i..e, non essential) are highly price sensitive. Further, any item easily available for free (albeit illegally) will have an even bigger response to price increases.
Apple has argued that single-price simplicity was necessary in the early days of the service, when people were just getting used to paying to download music. But now, after 500m tracks have been sold, we're clearly past the early adopter phase. So what's the right pricing model going forward?
Most accounts of the dispute between Apple and the labels have focused on the industry's efforts to raise prices, which are undeniably a big part of their plan. No surprise there. The research we've been doing for the book shows that within the bulk of the online music business--the top 100,000 downloads--only 3.5 tracks on the average CD sell. So the record labels are getting less than $3 in revenue (wholesale) from albums when the music is sold by the track. That's less than half the wholesale price of a CD (although with none of the physical costs of making and distributing a CD). The shift from an album model to a track model is indeed an alarming thing for the labels, and it's easy to see why they'd want to raise retail prices online as a result.
But there's more to the story that that. The labels may be evil, but they're not (all) stupid. They--to say nothing of many of their artists--also see the virtues of dropping the price for lots of their music, too. For decades they've been playing with CD pricing models that range from cut-price classics to top-dollar boxed sets, and when freed of the overheads of traditional retail, they're likely to experiment more, not less. Although some of the more vocal commentators have encouraged Apple to hold the line at $0.99, there's a strong argument that introducing variable pricing might ultimately lead to a more consumer-friendly outcome.
The reason is simple Long Tail math: there's a lot more music in the Tail than there is in the Head, and labels are generally more willing to experiment with discount pricing outside of the top 1,000 than they are with their hits. Those niches represents most of the music available today, measured by number of titles, and because they're only modest sellers individually they're less likely to create channel conflict with CD retailers, who tend to only stock the hits.
Imagine, for starters, that Apple introduces a three-tiered band of pricing: $1.49, $.99 and $.79 (that would no doubt soon expand to include $.49, but below that the transaction costs of credit card processing and the like start to loom large). Tiered pricing--gold, silver, bronze--is still pretty simple for consumers to understand, yet it introduces a valuable new dimension of demand creation.
Rhapsody, for instance, saw demand triple last year when it cut prices in half, to $0.49. And the average usage per customer in the all-you-ca
Ive been able to get 9 DVDs out a week on the 3 out rip and return plan .
Saturday postage delivery\pickup fixes that .
You get 3 on Monday you rip Monday Night return tuesday you get 3 on Wednesday or Thursday the DVDs return thursday or friday and then another are delivered 3 usualy on a Satuarday .
9 Out a week is not hard to do do if you are dilligent Ive got plenty of value out of Netflix.....
Re:I don't think the guy is a typical consumer
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The guys who developed Songbird developed the Yahoo Music engine, Rob Lord was a Product Manager at Yahoo after Yahoo aquired his company Mediacode before that Rob Worked at Winamp before it was sold to AOL...
LX Systems(TM) technology helps multimedia providers efficiently market and distribute content to millions of consumers. Powered by Wurld Media's patent-pending Cooperative Communication Network(TM) (CCN(TM)) protocol, LX Systems harnesses the true power of Grid Computing and applies it to the commercial marketplace.
NBC UNIVERSAL AND WURLD MEDIA ANNOUNCE ON DEMAND DEAL FOR MOVIE AND TV EVENT CONTENT ON PEER IMPACT SERVICE
Peer Impact becomes the first legitimate Peer to Peer to offer Video On Demand
Englewood Cliffs, NJ and Saratoga Springs, NY -November 17, 2005 - NBC Universal and Wurld Media, the creator of the legitimate Peer to Peer (P2P) service Peer Impact, today announced an agreement that will make Universal movies and NBC Universal TV events content available to Peer Impact customers on demand. This agreement marks the first ever license of major studio content to a legitimate P2P service. Titles will be available for rental for a 24-hour viewing period after purchase.
"NBC Universal has a long history of embracing technology to better serve our viewers," said Bob Wright, vice chairman of GE and chairman and CEO of NBC Universal. "This agreement is a significant step forward in our goal to capitalize on the myriad possibilities of new digital-media services, in a way that allows us to safeguard our content from illegal distribution."
"NBC Universal is committed to providing our content to consumers in a way that meets their needs," said David Zaslav, president, NBC Universal Cable. "This agreement with Wurld Media furthers that commitment by allowing consumers to view the highest-quality movies securely on their computers."
"It has been a great honor to work with the executives at NBC Universal with whom we share a common vision for the future of this consumer marketplace," said Gregory Kerber, Chairman and CEO of Wurld Media. "This monumental convergence of technology and entertainment will bring digital media into the living room of the consumer, placing on-demand entertainment at their fingertips."
Peer Impact offers its users a secure, high quality environment for rental and purchase of digital content, including music, video games, and with this announcement, for the first time, major film and television event titles. For the benefit of its users, all content is placed on the P2P network by Wurld Media - no unauthorized content can be introduced on to the network.
As with all digital content that is traded over Peer Impact, users will earn Peer Cash for their participation in distributing videos on the network and for recommending video purchases to others. Peer Impact's unique technology allows members to earn cash back for acting as "paid redistributors" of content purchased over the network. Users simply leave their computers on, and if they are selected as a source of fulfillment for purchases on the network, they receive Peer Cash that may be used toward future purchases.
On demand movies from the Universal film library include Academy-Award winning films "Ray" and "The Motorcycle Diaries; " recent titles such as "Meet the Fockers" and "The Bourne Supremacy" as well as upcoming premieres of "The Skeleton Key", "Cinderella Man" and "The Forty Year Old Virgin." Specials and stunts include "Jerry Springer: Uncensored," "5th Wheel" and "Blind Date" franchises; family-friendly programming like "Kicking & Screaming," the "Balto" series and "The Land Before Time." In addition, "Laura Sin Censura," one of the most successful Hispanic VOD offerings to date, will also be available to Peer Impact customers.
This announcement is the latest in Peer Impact's licensing and distribution arrangements. Peer Impact recently launched the first multimedia version of their service, which introduced over 1000 video games to the service and has bolstered its music catalog to include not only all major music labels but the largest independent labels as well.
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About NBC Universal
NBC Universal is one of the world's leading media and entertainment companies in the development, production, and marketing of entertainment, news, and information to a global audience. Formed in May 2004 through the combining of NBC and Vivendi Universal Entertainment, NBC Universal owns and operates a valuable portfolio of news and entert
Yeah that part of it sucks as does activeX they use for the Kontiki plugin but it shows that compamies are taking an interest in Peer to Peer for distribution .
Heres the Current Public Member List of the Coral Consortium its a Mixture of Consumer Electronics and Content Companies but no info has come out of the consortium for several months......
Promoter Members
Hewlett-Packard Corporation IFPI Intertrust Technologies Corporation Koninklijke Philips Electronics N.V. Matsushita Electric Industrial Co., Ltd. NBC Universal, Inc. Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd Sony Corporation Twentieth Century Fox Film Corp.
Contributor Members
Ardtully Technologies AOL Cisco Systems Cloakware Corporation Comcast New Media Development, Inc. EMI Music Enikos Pty. Ltd. Irdeto Access B.V. Kenwood Corporation LG Electronics Motion Picture Association of America Motorola NDS Americas, Inc. Pioneer Corporation Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) Seagate Technology, LLC. SecureMedia Inc. Sony BMG Starz Entertainment Group LLC STMicroelectronics, N.V. Sun Microsystems Time Warner Cable Universal Music Group Verimatrix, Inc. ViDeOnline, Inc. Warner Bros. Technical Operations Inc. Warner Music Group Widevine Technologies
Google also announced a partnership with DivX
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It seems that Google is going to be using DivX and its DRM to get video into lounge rooms and onto portable devices.DivX has a popular codec,50 Million DivX certified devices and a MPAA approved DRM.The addition of Geencines movies to Google Video is a clear intention of DivX and Google's relationship as Greencine uses DivX for it's streaming and Burn to Rent and Burn to Buy server .
According to Divx representatives, the talks are in a very early stage and details still have to be discussed and determined. However, Divx' role in Google appears not be in direct connection with the search engine's announcement of a commercial video download service. Instead, Divx will help Google to move video content across various device types and ultimately onto the TV screen. Of course, content will only be able to be moved, if it carries a digital rights management platform and if devices are "secure. Susan Wojcicki, Google's vice president of product management said that "Google video's goal is to make the world's video content more accessible" to people. "We want to reach a point when consumers can easily access the content that is important to them from Google whenever they want and enjoy that content on a variety of devices."
Slashdot Mirror
All Adult Channel who is going to distribute Vivids' online video is owned by CinemaNow .............how ironic .It just goes to show that its indusrty politics and Walmart that is getting in the way of this more efficient distribution Channel .
The My Little Pony roleplay game already exists my 2 duaghters who are both under 10 years old hijack dads computer to play it on a regular basis .
c ommand=activate_noisemaker&affiliate-id=1124&produ ct-id=623469&media-type=games
http://extcmd.peerimpact.com/piactivex.html?piext
You can resell becuse DivX uses a superditribution style DRM that resets itsself like Trymedia does for games .
,while the systems continue to send the customer the lock and the key .DivX as least offers cross platform solutions so interoperbality can not be used as an excuse to crack DRM .
DivX DRM is account based so it reports back the everytime the account is acceesed. If 200 verifciation requests where coming from an account name the DivX would shut that accont down .
And remeber DRM is never foolproof
DivX DRM
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Already used by Greencine
http://www.greencine.com/static/divx/divxdrm_faq.
Geez you media execs need some learnin'
Windows DRM has been cracked for about a year
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=89243
this is why iMesh and the still vaporware Mashboxx are doomed they offer no incentive to the end user even though they are commercial p2p .
Grid Netorks better pony up a large licencing fee to Peer Impact if they want to offer a incentive scheme seeing that Peer Impact's parent company holds this patent .
0 05038617&F=0
"Abstract of WO2005038617
Methods and computer systems for increasing the revenue stream from a work made available in digital form are provided. The methods and systems of the invention are particularly useful for musical, video, interactive game files, and artistic or commercial works that can be digitally copied and transferred or distributed, such as via the Internet. Embodiments of the present invention advantageously can form part of a greater system that provides access to digital forms of numerous works or groups of works, such as those that are copyrighted, to thereby extend the revenue-producing capabilities for the copyright holder of digital or digitized works to bona fide purchasers of those works. In turn, bona fide purchasers of a work who later provide copies of that work or other authorized works, or provide transfer or distribution bandwidth with respect to that work or other authorized works may receive incentives. Advantageously, no central warehouse of digital content is necessary with the present methods, and users may introduce authorized content into the present system in a controlled manner, through peer-to-peer systems, while realizing economic incentives for doing so. The present systems and methods also provide a myriad of embodiments of incentive and apportioning payment schedules, configurations and properties."
http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=WO2
Chris Anderson the Editor in Chief and the Author of the soon to be released Long Tail Book posted this on his blog last year why the labels need variable pricing and the fixed priced model is flawed and the reason that Steve Jobs opposes it is because hes in the business of selling iPods and the sale of iTunes music is only a secondary part of his business .
Could the labels actually be right?
Ipod_although it's tempting to assume that the evil record labels are once again trying to gouge us, there's some sense in their latest efforts to get Apple to abandon it's one-size-fits-all pricing model. A New York Times article over the weekend reported on the ongoing struggle between the labels and Apple over its fixed $0.99 price point. The labels would like to sell most new music for more--$1.49/track?-- while older or more obscure tracks could go for less.
There's plenty to like about variable pricing. For starters, it's almost always the most efficient way to maximize markets of disparate goods and customers. As Barry Ritholtz puts it:
It's a basic rule of economics: goods that have elastic demand (i..e, non essential) are highly price sensitive. Further, any item easily available for free (albeit illegally) will have an even bigger response to price increases.
Apple has argued that single-price simplicity was necessary in the early days of the service, when people were just getting used to paying to download music. But now, after 500m tracks have been sold, we're clearly past the early adopter phase. So what's the right pricing model going forward?
Most accounts of the dispute between Apple and the labels have focused on the industry's efforts to raise prices, which are undeniably a big part of their plan. No surprise there. The research we've been doing for the book shows that within the bulk of the online music business--the top 100,000 downloads--only 3.5 tracks on the average CD sell. So the record labels are getting less than $3 in revenue (wholesale) from albums when the music is sold by the track. That's less than half the wholesale price of a CD (although with none of the physical costs of making and distributing a CD). The shift from an album model to a track model is indeed an alarming thing for the labels, and it's easy to see why they'd want to raise retail prices online as a result.
But there's more to the story that that. The labels may be evil, but they're not (all) stupid. They--to say nothing of many of their artists--also see the virtues of dropping the price for lots of their music, too. For decades they've been playing with CD pricing models that range from cut-price classics to top-dollar boxed sets, and when freed of the overheads of traditional retail, they're likely to experiment more, not less. Although some of the more vocal commentators have encouraged Apple to hold the line at $0.99, there's a strong argument that introducing variable pricing might ultimately lead to a more consumer-friendly outcome.
The reason is simple Long Tail math: there's a lot more music in the Tail than there is in the Head, and labels are generally more willing to experiment with discount pricing outside of the top 1,000 than they are with their hits. Those niches represents most of the music available today, measured by number of titles, and because they're only modest sellers individually they're less likely to create channel conflict with CD retailers, who tend to only stock the hits.
Imagine, for starters, that Apple introduces a three-tiered band of pricing: $1.49, $.99 and $.79 (that would no doubt soon expand to include $.49, but below that the transaction costs of credit card processing and the like start to loom large). Tiered pricing--gold, silver, bronze--is still pretty simple for consumers to understand, yet it introduces a valuable new dimension of demand creation.
Rhapsody, for instance, saw demand triple last year when it cut prices in half, to $0.49. And the average usage per customer in the all-you-ca
Ive been able to get 9 DVDs out a week on the 3 out rip and return plan .
.....
Saturday postage delivery\pickup fixes that .
You get 3 on Monday you rip Monday Night return tuesday you get 3 on Wednesday or Thursday the DVDs return thursday or friday and then another are delivered 3 usualy on a Satuarday .
9 Out a week is not hard to do do if you are dilligent Ive got plenty of value out of Netflix
The guys who developed Songbird developed the Yahoo Music engine,
Rob Lord was a Product Manager at Yahoo after Yahoo aquired his company Mediacode before that Rob Worked at Winamp before it was sold to AOL...
LX Systems(TM) technology helps multimedia providers efficiently market and distribute content to millions of consumers. Powered by Wurld Media's patent-pending Cooperative Communication Network(TM) (CCN(TM)) protocol, LX Systems harnesses the true power of Grid Computing and applies it to the commercial marketplace.
http://www.lxsystems.com/index.html
Pandoera is a service where music from pandoras experts is pushed to you based on Pandoras criterion .
Last FM is a tagging service based on user recomendations so it can be consdered to be a pull service .
Press Release:11-17-2005
NBC UNIVERSAL AND WURLD MEDIA ANNOUNCE ON DEMAND DEAL FOR MOVIE AND TV EVENT CONTENT ON PEER IMPACT SERVICE
Peer Impact becomes the first legitimate Peer to Peer to offer Video On Demand
Englewood Cliffs, NJ and Saratoga Springs, NY -November 17, 2005 - NBC Universal and Wurld Media, the creator of the legitimate Peer to Peer (P2P) service Peer Impact, today announced an agreement that will make Universal movies and NBC Universal TV events content available to Peer Impact customers on demand. This agreement marks the first ever license of major studio content to a legitimate P2P service. Titles will be available for rental for a 24-hour viewing period after purchase.
"NBC Universal has a long history of embracing technology to better serve our viewers," said Bob Wright, vice chairman of GE and chairman and CEO of NBC Universal. "This agreement is a significant step forward in our goal to capitalize on the myriad possibilities of new digital-media services, in a way that allows us to safeguard our content from illegal distribution."
"NBC Universal is committed to providing our content to consumers in a way that meets their needs," said David Zaslav, president, NBC Universal Cable. "This agreement with Wurld Media furthers that commitment by allowing consumers to view the highest-quality movies securely on their computers."
"It has been a great honor to work with the executives at NBC Universal with whom we share a common vision for the future of this consumer marketplace," said Gregory Kerber, Chairman and CEO of Wurld Media. "This monumental convergence of technology and entertainment will bring digital media into the living room of the consumer, placing on-demand entertainment at their fingertips."
Peer Impact offers its users a secure, high quality environment for rental and purchase of digital content, including music, video games, and with this announcement, for the first time, major film and television event titles. For the benefit of its users, all content is placed on the P2P network by Wurld Media - no unauthorized content can be introduced on to the network.
As with all digital content that is traded over Peer Impact, users will earn Peer Cash for their participation in distributing videos on the network and for recommending video purchases to others. Peer Impact's unique technology allows members to earn cash back for acting as "paid redistributors" of content purchased over the network. Users simply leave their computers on, and if they are selected as a source of fulfillment for purchases on the network, they receive Peer Cash that may be used toward future purchases.
On demand movies from the Universal film library include Academy-Award winning films "Ray" and "The Motorcycle Diaries; " recent titles such as "Meet the Fockers" and "The Bourne Supremacy" as well as upcoming premieres of "The Skeleton Key", "Cinderella Man" and "The Forty Year Old Virgin." Specials and stunts include "Jerry Springer: Uncensored," "5th Wheel" and "Blind Date" franchises; family-friendly programming like "Kicking & Screaming," the "Balto" series and "The Land Before Time." In addition, "Laura Sin Censura," one of the most successful Hispanic VOD offerings to date, will also be available to Peer Impact customers.
This announcement is the latest in Peer Impact's licensing and distribution arrangements. Peer Impact recently launched the first multimedia version of their service, which introduced over 1000 video games to the service and has bolstered its music catalog to include not only all major music labels but the largest independent labels as well.
# # #
About NBC Universal
NBC Universal is one of the world's leading media and entertainment companies in the development, production, and marketing of entertainment, news, and information to a global audience. Formed in May 2004 through the combining of NBC and Vivendi Universal Entertainment, NBC Universal owns and operates a valuable portfolio of news and entert
I bet this winger owns a iPod talk about vendoe lock in ...............
Yeah that part of it sucks as does activeX they use for the Kontiki plugin but it shows that compamies are taking an interest in Peer to Peer for distribution .
Check out AOL Hi-Q Video http://hiqvideo.aol.com/
Its video delivered by Kontiki's p2p grid technology .
Wonder if Google will end up delivering content in this Manner .
I found out that Coral where at CES and are expected to announce a full spec by June 2006
AC must be Steve Ballmer or Jobs ...................
Im sure DivX are developing thier DRM for all platforms ;)
Heres the Current Public Member List of the Coral Consortium its a Mixture of Consumer Electronics and Content Companies but no info has come out of the consortium for several months ......
Promoter Members
Hewlett-Packard Corporation
IFPI
Intertrust Technologies Corporation
Koninklijke Philips Electronics N.V.
Matsushita Electric Industrial Co., Ltd.
NBC Universal, Inc.
Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd
Sony Corporation
Twentieth Century Fox Film Corp.
Contributor Members
Ardtully Technologies
AOL
Cisco Systems
Cloakware Corporation
Comcast New Media Development, Inc.
EMI Music
Enikos Pty. Ltd.
Irdeto Access B.V.
Kenwood Corporation
LG Electronics
Motion Picture Association of America
Motorola
NDS Americas, Inc.
Pioneer Corporation
Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA)
Seagate Technology, LLC.
SecureMedia Inc.
Sony BMG
Starz Entertainment Group LLC
STMicroelectronics, N.V.
Sun Microsystems
Time Warner Cable
Universal Music Group
Verimatrix, Inc.
ViDeOnline, Inc.
Warner Bros. Technical Operations Inc.
Warner Music Group
Widevine Technologies
The iPod has been dubbed the 8 track of the Digital age.
Creative own the patent on the ITunes interface so that may be a start.
Hope Google Join Coral http://www.coral-interop.org/
A interoperble DRM framework is being worked on .
http://www.coral-interop.org/
It seems that Google is going to be using DivX and its DRM to get video into lounge rooms and onto portable devices .DivX has a popular codec ,50 Million DivX certified devices and a MPAA approved DRM .The addition of Geencines movies to Google Video is a clear intention of DivX and Google's relationship as Greencine uses DivX for it's streaming and Burn to Rent and Burn to Buy server .
http://www.greencine.com/divxRelease?content=4
According to Divx representatives, the talks are in a very early stage and details still have to be discussed and determined. However, Divx' role in Google appears not be in direct connection with the search engine's announcement of a commercial video download service. Instead, Divx will help Google to move video content across various device types and ultimately onto the TV screen. Of course, content will only be able to be moved, if it carries a digital rights management platform and if devices are "secure. Susan Wojcicki, Google's vice president of product management said that "Google video's goal is to make the world's video content more accessible" to people. "We want to reach a point when consumers can easily access the content that is important to them from Google whenever they want and enjoy that content on a variety of devices."
http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/01/07/divx_google/
Wonder if the iTunes downloads will be made free of Fairplay DRM .