Good docs! I shared them with a colleague who's expressed much of the same sentiment about troff and other tools.
}From the point of view of a touchtypist, and proficient vi user, troff seems to have a reputation for being the utilitarian yet superpowered tool for type and layout (like what vi is for brain-to-fingers efficiency and control).
So Tom; is there a decent introduction/tutorial for troff that can get someone up to speed enough to understand what the manpage is saying?
It is possible for a semi-intelligent person to still be somewhat boggled by what troff is supposed to be and how it might be used.
To the thread, As the independent, successful person that you are, you do not have the pleasure of working for someone who won't accept that there are modes of transferring text other than Office97 fast save files. This is a real showstopper in so many places.
Of course, that's the damage done by ignorance, in the general case.
I hope that the reason the court has accepted this lawsuit, is so they can have the opportunity to ream amazon.com.
I am thinking about sending back my amazon.com coffee cup, saying "thank you for the nice gift, but I have a fundamental disagreement with your business strategy and can no longer stomach being your billboard, regards, your former customer, yadda"
if you can be charged for spam, you can put a precise, true, documented amount on the damage caused by spam. Then you have a leg to stand on, unlike in the states, where it's not possible to say "this spam cost me $x"
>> Maybe he should have thought about the >> consequences of that BEFORE he pulled a >> paying customer's site.
> Come on, I'm sure he refunded the customer.
So you seem to think that refunding the customer should have been the ONLY consequence?
>This is hardly > reprehensible or cowardly behavior.
It is that, and more. What's more, ignorance of the way law and order works in a country where you do business, particularly if you are in this business and the laws in question have to do with freedom of speech and search, seizure and restraint, then by all means, the ignorance itself qualifies as reprehensible.
"I bet the Americans among us are saying "Great work by the govenment - saving US jobs", but stop and consider - it is also making lamb meat more expensive for you. Shouldn't we let market forces decide it?"
How many people can have a pet lamb anyway? Seems like quite a niche market. If there were so many lambs imported that they were common, people might try to do something disgusting and gross, like even skinning them and *gasp* eating them. We can't have that, can we?
HAh! Powerless. They can use the same methods of protest and civil disobedience that every other citizen is entitled to. They could show up on the doorstep of the justice department with pitchforks, plowshares, and torches, if they "really" don't like the status quo. But I guess they don't dislike it *that* much now do they?
They *do* make the law. They make it stupid, by blindly following it.
But your patent examiner friend doesn't see it that way; rather, he chooses to be "powerless".
Okay, she was wearing *tight* sweatpants. I still believe that the pants contributed as much to the woman's injuries as the coffee. Some people like their BATH WATER hotter than what comes out of your mr. coffee. I'll need to get a thermometer to test the temperature of the coffee made by my (vintage) percolator, but I do know that the water comes within a degree or two of boiling. Many a morning I have splashed a bit from the cup onto my hand without 3rd degree burns, but then I've touched an alloy exhaust manifold on a vw bus that's been going uphill for a few hours without third degree burns either. I don't expect everybody's skin is the same, and I'm sure that a 79-80 year old woman would have far more sensitive skin. I also know that even in the "old days", the coffee served by mcdonalds could be drunk from the cup.
Regardless of any of this stuff, the main point of the coffee lawsuit is that McDonalds rudely refused to pay the woman's medical expenses, and dismissed her complaint out-of-hand. That's what the suit was about, and why the arbitrary "amount of money mcdonalds makes on one day's coffee sales" in damages were considered reasonable.
Anyway, in response to your comment, I'll mouth off whenever I feel like it. If you can flame me hotter than a vw exhaust manifold, maybe I'll chill;-)
Regards, James "never had that problem with a slurpee" McGill
They have replaced the Town Square, which was a public place (where constitutional rights exist), with the Mall, which is a private place (where rights do not exist before the privilege of using the private property).
If you don't understand this, try gathering at the mall for the purpose of protest. If your Town Square *is* the mall (c.f., Tempe Arizona and the Centerpoint Property), you have no Town Square, only a place where you can be charged with Trespassing if the management or the security personnel or the police do not agree with your appearance or any other criterion.
So let's all do everything in our power to bring the hasty demise of the Mall, in order to resurrect the Town Square.
Unless there is language in the lease that constrains signage to specific content (as opposed to height, brightness, etc), the mall has no leg to stand on. On the other hand, if the tenants have signed a lease that says that the contents of advertising signs are subject to approval by the landlord, shame on the merchants FOR SIGNING AWAY THEIR RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH.
Yes, you heard me correctly. This is not news, if the shops have signed away their rights, which they are quite free to do.
So let's see the documents, else this is not news.
Unauthorized duplication and distribution is illegal. But the doctrine of "fair use" creates a situation where certain rights of the consumer are not taken away by license, and they cannot be taken away. This is why it's ok to backup your music by copying it to tape, or backup your book by writing it out longhand, but not ok to broadcast the copy (e.g., in a jukebox in your bar, or as a pro DJ) for profit.
Law in the USA is not a binary state, it's an interpretive struggle between the letter and the spirit of the laws, with great latitude tending towards individual rights.
Regardless of what you read on slashdot or alt.redneck.conspiracy-theorists, individual rights are alive and well protected in the USA for the most part.
I actually ran DV/X in 92. I tried to carry the torch for it being the "right choice" at Mobil. Unfortunately I was the only person (on the planet, AFAIK) who could see the potential of Desqview, much less DesQview/X with a unix/X11 client/server model.
What happened to the Red Baron browser that was bundled with RedHat 4.x? I can't believe that was just a one-off and abandoned. It worked great. Why wasn't that open source, Redhat? It would probably be pretty far along by now if only it were out here.
But Linus is a *ROMAN* name, not Finnish!
on
Linux on Jeopardy
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Regardless of how Linus pronounces his name, the name is Latin. How would a Roman have said this name? I believe that we should honor Linus' Scandinavian heritage, but we also should not be so hard on people who assume that the name is pronounced as it would be in most of the rest of the world where latin names are common.
I have a friend whose mother is totally blind and when he was a kid he'd get "loans" from her by switching a $1.00 bill for a $20.00 bill and then switching them back te next day before she noticed.
I didn't realize how hard-up for friends you right-wingers were.
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Good docs! I shared them with a colleague who's
expressed much of the same sentiment about troff and other tools.
}From the point of view of a touchtypist, and proficient vi user, troff seems to have a reputation for being the utilitarian yet superpowered tool for type and layout (like what vi is for brain-to-fingers efficiency and control).
Domo arigato, Mr. Christiansen
It has to be a publicity stunt.
Phone sex operators don't really get naked
and masturbate on the phone. And they're not
cute chicks either.
Oh. silly me. I was skimming the article that it linked to, and thought it *was* randomly generated, along with the comments.
You mean that was real?
"unemployable underclass".
That "underclass" will strive to become as large as possible.
Remember at the end of 1984, the fake society is falling apart. The proles, being the vast majority, are poised to take over.
If "most" people are in this underclass, they have
the opportunity to organize and the sheer size of the class makes them predominate.
As long as they are the minority, they haven't a chance.
So Tom;
is there a decent introduction/tutorial for troff
that can get someone up to speed enough to understand what the manpage is saying?
It is possible for a semi-intelligent person to
still be somewhat boggled by what troff is supposed to be and how it might be used.
To the thread,
As the independent, successful person that you are, you do not have the pleasure of working for someone who won't accept that there are modes of transferring text other than Office97 fast save files. This is a real showstopper in so many places.
Of course, that's the damage done by ignorance, in the general case.
I hope that the reason the court has accepted this lawsuit, is so they can have the opportunity to
ream amazon.com.
I am thinking about sending back my amazon.com
coffee cup, saying "thank you for the nice gift, but I have a fundamental disagreement with your
business strategy and can no longer stomach being
your billboard, regards, your former customer, yadda"
if you can be charged for spam, you can put a precise, true, documented amount on the damage caused by spam. Then you have a leg to stand on,
unlike in the states, where it's not possible to say "this spam cost me $x"
> it would be hard to say no.
Unfortunately, it is your duty as an American
to say "no," and demand a court order before you
even talk about doing something you don't want to do.
>> Maybe he should have thought about the
>> consequences of that BEFORE he pulled a
>> paying customer's site.
> Come on, I'm sure he refunded the customer.
So you seem to think that refunding the customer should have been the ONLY consequence?
>This is hardly
> reprehensible or cowardly behavior.
It is that, and more. What's more, ignorance of the way law and order works in a country where you do business, particularly if you are in this business and the laws in question have to do with freedom of speech and search, seizure and restraint, then by all means, the ignorance itself qualifies as reprehensible.
i'm trying to figure out what hemos found offensive.
performed in portugese by an all-nude all-brazilian cast.
"I bet the Americans among us are saying "Great work by the govenment - saving US jobs",
but stop and consider - it is also making lamb meat more expensive for you. Shouldn't we let
market forces decide it?"
How many people can have a pet lamb anyway? Seems like quite a niche market. If there were so many lambs imported that they were common, people might try to do something disgusting and gross, like even skinning them and *gasp* eating them. We can't have that, can we?
HAh! Powerless. They can use the same methods of
protest and civil disobedience that every other citizen is entitled to. They could show up on the
doorstep of the justice department with pitchforks, plowshares, and torches, if they "really" don't like the status quo. But I guess they don't dislike it *that* much now do they?
They *do* make the law. They make it stupid, by blindly following it.
But your patent examiner friend doesn't see it that way; rather, he chooses to be "powerless".
Okay, she was wearing *tight* sweatpants.
;-)
I still believe that the pants contributed as much
to the woman's injuries as the coffee. Some people like their BATH WATER hotter than what comes out of your mr. coffee. I'll need to get
a thermometer to test the temperature of the coffee made by my (vintage) percolator, but I do
know that the water comes within a degree or two of boiling. Many a morning I have splashed a bit from the cup onto my hand without 3rd degree burns, but then I've touched an alloy exhaust manifold on a vw bus that's been going uphill for a few hours without third degree burns either. I don't expect everybody's skin is the same, and I'm sure that a 79-80 year old woman would have far more sensitive skin. I also know that even in the "old days", the coffee served by mcdonalds could be drunk from the cup.
Regardless of any of this stuff, the main point of the coffee lawsuit is that McDonalds rudely refused to pay the woman's medical expenses, and dismissed her complaint out-of-hand. That's what the suit was about, and why the arbitrary "amount of money mcdonalds makes on one day's coffee sales" in damages were considered reasonable.
Anyway, in response to your comment, I'll mouth off whenever I feel like it. If you can flame me hotter than a vw exhaust manifold, maybe I'll chill
Regards, James "never had that problem with a slurpee" McGill
They have replaced the Town Square, which was a public place (where constitutional rights exist),
with the Mall, which is a private place (where rights do not exist before the privilege of using the private property).
If you don't understand this, try gathering at the mall for the purpose of protest. If your Town Square *is* the mall (c.f., Tempe Arizona and the Centerpoint Property), you have no Town Square, only a place where you can be charged with Trespassing if the management or the security personnel or the police do not agree with your appearance or any other criterion.
So let's all do everything in our power to bring the hasty demise of the Mall, in order to resurrect the Town Square.
Unless there is language in the lease that constrains signage to specific content (as opposed to height, brightness, etc), the mall has no leg to stand on. On the other hand, if the tenants have signed a lease that says that the contents of advertising signs are subject to approval by the landlord, shame on the merchants FOR SIGNING AWAY THEIR RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH.
Yes, you heard me correctly. This is not news, if the shops have signed away their rights, which they are quite free to do.
So let's see the documents, else this is not news.
Please post your configuration details. This is something that could be made into a turnkey for
coffeebars, etc.
Well, the jury is still out on the question of
whether 70+ year old ladies should go around wearing tight spandex.
I say it with a long "i" because with a short "i"
it sounds like "lennox" which is my mom's china pattern.
But they COULD, for what's pocket change to them.
Unauthorized duplication and distribution is illegal. But the doctrine of "fair use" creates
a situation where certain rights of the consumer
are not taken away by license, and they cannot be
taken away. This is why it's ok to backup your
music by copying it to tape, or backup your book
by writing it out longhand, but not ok to broadcast the copy (e.g., in a jukebox in your bar, or as a pro DJ) for profit.
Law in the USA is not a binary state, it's an interpretive struggle between the letter and the spirit of the laws, with great latitude tending towards individual rights.
Regardless of what you read on slashdot or alt.redneck.conspiracy-theorists, individual rights are alive and well protected in the USA
for the most part.
I actually ran DV/X in 92.
I tried to carry the torch for it being the
"right choice" at Mobil. Unfortunately I was
the only person (on the planet, AFAIK) who
could see the potential of Desqview, much less
DesQview/X with a unix/X11 client/server model.
We ended up with Banyan Vines and Windows 3.1
What happened to the Red Baron browser that was
bundled with RedHat 4.x? I can't believe that was just a one-off and abandoned. It worked great.
Why wasn't that open source, Redhat? It would
probably be pretty far along by now if only it
were out here.
Regardless of how Linus pronounces his name, the
name is Latin. How would a Roman have said this
name? I believe that we should honor Linus'
Scandinavian heritage, but we also should not be
so hard on people who assume that the name is pronounced
as it would be in most of the rest of the world
where latin names are common.
$1.00 bill for a $20.00 bill and then switching them back te next day before she noticed.
I didn't realize how hard-up for friends you right-wingers were.