>How can we be certain that some percentage of the high school students, the top 10% say, are no succeeding in spite of our educational >system and not because of it?
They aren't learning Calculus, Physics, Organic Chemistry, French, German and Japanese, on their own. People have an idea that public schools are failing because they see headlines about standardized tests, kids graduating unable to read and write, etc. I'm looking at the other end and seeing that there *are* opportunities.
If I was referring to private school graduates I would have said so. US colleges are not facing some kind of dearth of qualified applicants from US public schools.
>My only OTHER idea is that the FDIC/NCUA/etc ought to get together and create a CA for US banks. Then you could even make the >bank-trusted bar a DIFFERENT color.
Corporate execs will scream about it, and do whatever it takes to make their company meet the definition of a "bank" just to have the color code.
>Are you sure that they are not coming from outside the United States (Europe, Russia, India, China etc)?
I am saying that high school graduates from Washington, Oregon, California, Nevada, Utah, Arizona, Colorado, and New Mexico, compete effectively with students from the rest of the world. I'm not saying that everybody who goes to school in one of those states manages to come out well-educated, but I am noting that the schools are not necessarily depriving them of the opportunity. Especially in the sciences, they come out knowing a lot more than I did, essentially skipping a year of math and science that I had to take in college. (I wasn't exactly an underachiever, btw.)
So the blanket criticism that assumes the US public school system is somehow fundamentally flawed, needs to be resolved with the fact that students *do* exit these schools very well educated, despite those flaws. They aren't marginal -- they are highly competitive. The opportunities are there for those students who make appropriate choices.
The 386DX40 was what made it possible for me to have a home computer again (I'd started in the 1970s with various 8-bit things, but by the mid 1980s, and until 1991 or so, I could not afford any kind of new computer). I really loved my AMD 386. The "performance to application" ratio was better than it's ever been since. I'm saying that even today with my quad-core desktop and dual-core laptop, the equipment is only marginally suited to the task I use it for. But in 1991-1992, the performance was actually *there*, and the problems were in the area of storage capacity and data transfer rates. Not saying I'd go back, or anything. Just that AMD made it possible for me to continue the hobby at the threshold where it became a career.
Maybe the big picture is worse, but I note that incoming freshmen at the university where I work, are coming in quite strong with physics, chemistry, calculus, writing, and most even have good placement in a second language. My local, small, unscientific sample indicates a strong high school system, turning out students who are as well-prepared for university as we could ask for.
Are you seeing different results among graduating seniors?
Um... I realize that people are using the Linden grid in a cost-neutral way, such as the things you describe. Those aren't the people I'm concerned about.
>Firstly, your prices are outdated, it's only $1000 these days.
Yes, extremely recent development.
>You seem to not realize that Linden Lab has over 200 employees.
I know a lot more about Linden Labs than I let on publicly.
I understand the economics as a service -- I don't understand how it works out for the users -- I see a lot of denial, and people pouring money into it. I look and do not find a lot of stories about positive returns.
People seem to not realize just *how much* Linden sims cost. There is a $1600 US setup fee, and a $295 US charge *per month* for a standard sim. I know of one group who has 44 of these (!). There are dealerships selling Eurpoean sedans with lower overhead.
>If you logged in for 10 minutes and then logged off you may just have missed out on actually enjoying playing a so called game without >needing to frag something.
On the other hand, when people who were in-game on a daily basis for six months or more decide to quit, I do appreciate hearing their reasons.
It takes weeks or even months before you even discover what the game has to offer. This is not possible to evaluate in "10 minutes", not least because it's not technical stuff, but participation. If you aren't creating something you aren't participating. (But many players are woefully stuck in a "consumer/spectator" mindset, and won't even consider being creative... I just ignore them, which means, yes, I ignore most of the players.)
Live music venue! As a musician, I find it quite an effective outlet because I can create an environment and perform in it. Others give feedback, they enjoy it greatly as well.
>The demands of military grade computing are VERY different from the demands of your typical desktop/server.
I can only think of a slashdot poster from some years back who wrote about how he had to keep an ordinary Compaq desktop machine going, in soggy mud, with electrical cables arcing all around him...
>The same fucktards that said - by the year 2000, folks! - we'd be eating each other to survive and predicted a global ice age during the 70s >are the same fucktards behind global warming.
You might note that Obama's "Nay" vote wouldn't have changed the outcome, but his "Yay" vote may have gained quite a bit of political capital, which he needs, if he is going to beat the GOP machine in November.
So... Is anyone alleging that a crime has been committed here? As in, saying the specific law that was broken? Or is this another case of accusing somebody of... doing something that is legal...
If there is evidence of a crime, the perhaps something can be done... otherwise, like it or not, you are harrassing somebody for doing something that is not illegal.
The article really doesn't make clear which it is. Legal? Or Illegal?
>When you ask your super will know you're at least looking for a new job.
Making this clear early and consistently, tends to make you more valuable in retention terms.
My current employer has been well aware that I work for this organization for specific benefits, that I am taking a third of the usual pay at my professional level, and they are grateful.
If you *aren't* "looking for a new job" you're complacent. This can have the opposite effect of what you expect.
>How often do you think most of us have even held a whiteboard pen?
I think you have one or more university degrees. I think if you're over 30, you did it with chalk. Otherwise, yes, you've done all kinds of math, physics, other lab sciences, other kinds of writing, and a fair amount of computer program illustration on a whiteboard. You can handle it.
from the other side of the table, the truth is that there is rarely a situation where you have an opening, and a genuinely qualified candidate for the position, and you are actually looking for reasons to disqualify one of them. Use this knowledge to your benefit.
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>How can we be certain that some percentage of the high school students, the top 10% say, are no succeeding in spite of our educational
>system and not because of it?
They aren't learning Calculus, Physics, Organic Chemistry, French, German and Japanese, on their own.
People have an idea that public schools are failing because they see headlines about standardized tests, kids graduating unable to read and write, etc. I'm looking at the other end and seeing that there *are* opportunities.
If I was referring to private school graduates I would have said so. US colleges are not facing some kind of dearth of qualified applicants from US public schools.
>My only OTHER idea is that the FDIC/NCUA/etc ought to get together and create a CA for US banks. Then you could even make the
>bank-trusted bar a DIFFERENT color.
Corporate execs will scream about it, and do whatever it takes to make their company meet the definition of a "bank" just to have the color code.
>Are you sure that they are not coming from outside the United States (Europe, Russia, India, China etc)?
I am saying that high school graduates from Washington, Oregon, California, Nevada, Utah, Arizona, Colorado, and New Mexico,
compete effectively with students from the rest of the world. I'm not saying that everybody who goes to school in one of those
states manages to come out well-educated, but I am noting that the schools are not necessarily depriving them of the opportunity.
Especially in the sciences, they come out knowing a lot more than I did, essentially skipping a year of math and science that I had to take in college. (I wasn't exactly an underachiever, btw.)
So the blanket criticism that assumes the US public school system is somehow fundamentally flawed, needs to be resolved with the fact that students *do* exit these schools very well educated, despite those flaws. They aren't marginal -- they are highly competitive. The opportunities are there for those students who make appropriate choices.
>I fell in love with AMD many years ago.
The 386DX40 was what made it possible for me to have a home computer again (I'd started in the 1970s with various 8-bit things, but by the mid 1980s, and until 1991 or so, I could not afford any kind of new computer). I really loved my AMD 386. The "performance to application" ratio was better than it's ever been since. I'm saying that even today with my quad-core desktop and dual-core laptop, the equipment is only marginally suited to the task I use it for. But in 1991-1992, the performance was actually *there*, and the problems were in the area of storage capacity and data transfer rates. Not saying I'd go back, or anything. Just that AMD made it possible for me to continue the hobby at the threshold where it became a career.
>>You think things have changed much in 12 years?
>Yes. They've gotten much worse.
Maybe the big picture is worse, but I note that incoming freshmen at the university where I work, are
coming in quite strong with physics, chemistry, calculus, writing, and most even have good placement in
a second language. My local, small, unscientific sample indicates a strong high school system, turning
out students who are as well-prepared for university as we could ask for.
Are you seeing different results among graduating seniors?
I had a machine with DOS 3.3 in ROM. I loved it. I miss it. For no other reason than the instant-on. Same goes for the Tandy Model 100.
Um... I realize that people are using the Linden grid in a cost-neutral way, such as the things you describe.
Those aren't the people I'm concerned about.
>Firstly, your prices are outdated, it's only $1000 these days.
Yes, extremely recent development.
>You seem to not realize that Linden Lab has over 200 employees.
I know a lot more about Linden Labs than I let on publicly.
I understand the economics as a service -- I don't understand how it works out for the users -- I see a lot of denial, and people pouring money into it. I look and do not find a lot of stories about positive returns.
>Caledon you mean?
Them too, but no. Elf Spirit Lands, and also a banking / retail conglomerate that I have NO idea how they make ends meet.
People seem to not realize just *how much* Linden sims cost. There is a $1600 US setup fee, and a $295 US charge *per month* for a standard sim. I know of one group who has 44 of these (!). There are dealerships selling Eurpoean sedans with lower overhead.
>If you logged in for 10 minutes and then logged off you may just have missed out on actually enjoying playing a so called game without
>needing to frag something.
On the other hand, when people who were in-game on a daily basis for six months or more decide to quit, I do appreciate hearing their reasons.
It takes weeks or even months before you even discover what the game has to offer. This is not possible to evaluate in "10 minutes", not least because it's not technical stuff, but participation. If you aren't creating something you aren't participating. (But many players are woefully stuck in a "consumer/spectator" mindset, and won't even consider being creative... I just ignore them, which means, yes, I ignore most of the players.)
Live music venue! As a musician, I find it quite an effective outlet because I can create an environment and perform in it.
Others give feedback, they enjoy it greatly as well.
>Do you know much about environmental science, by the way?
>>Definitely more than what you seem to know about economics
So why are you so eager to be a global climate change denier?
(And I happen to be fairly well educated in economics, are you bordering on personal insult too?)
>The demands of military grade computing are VERY different from the demands of your typical desktop/server.
I can only think of a slashdot poster from some years back who wrote about how he had to keep an ordinary Compaq desktop machine going, in soggy mud, with electrical cables arcing all around him...
So many slashdot geeks, so few of them with atmospheric sciences Ph.D.'s
>the world would face mass starvation and hunger by the year 2000.
It has, and it persists. Consider that 140 people will die of starvation *today* in Darfur, for example.
>He also predicted that 'India cannot possibly feed itself after 1971
India is a net importer of food, petroleum and steel.
>I think the same kind of crazy calculations drive the global warming hysteria.
And since I work in physics and atmospheric sciences research, I don't find much "hysteria" or "crazy calculation".
Do you know much about environmental science, by the way?
>The same fucktards that said - by the year 2000, folks! - we'd be eating each other to survive and predicted a global ice age during the 70s
>are the same fucktards behind global warming.
Cite please?
So, no crime then? Thanks for clearing that up.
You might note that Obama's "Nay" vote wouldn't have changed the outcome, but his "Yay" vote may have gained quite a bit of political capital, which he needs, if he is going to beat the GOP machine in November.
So... Is anyone alleging that a crime has been committed here? As in, saying the specific law that was broken? ... doing something that is legal ...
Or is this another case of accusing somebody of
If there is evidence of a crime, the perhaps something can be done... otherwise, like it or not, you are harrassing somebody for doing something that is not illegal.
The article really doesn't make clear which it is. Legal? Or Illegal?
>When you ask your super will know you're at least looking for a new job.
Making this clear early and consistently, tends to make you more valuable in retention terms.
My current employer has been well aware that I work for this organization for specific benefits,
that I am taking a third of the usual pay at my professional level, and they are grateful.
If you *aren't* "looking for a new job" you're complacent. This can have the opposite effect
of what you expect.
>How often do you think most of us have even held a whiteboard pen?
I think you have one or more university degrees. I think if you're over 30, you did it with chalk.
Otherwise, yes, you've done all kinds of math, physics, other lab sciences, other kinds of writing,
and a fair amount of computer program illustration on a whiteboard. You can handle it.
from the other side of the table, the truth is that there is rarely a situation where you have an opening, and a genuinely qualified candidate for the position, and you are actually looking for reasons to disqualify one of them. Use this knowledge to your benefit.
Oh, you're an American so only the US counts. Thanks for clearing that up.
You're talking about consumer / home networking devices. I thought the article was going to really be about *routers.*