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AMD Loses $1.2 Billion and Its CEO
Barence writes to mention that after seeing almost $1.2 billion in second quarter losses, AMD's CEO has resigned. Stepping up to fill his shoes will be Dirk Meyer, previous company president and COO. "Only two years ago, the company held a processor performance lead and was making serious inroads into Intel's market. However, AMD failed to keep pace with Intel's Core technology, and it once again surrendered its performance crown at the dawn of the multicore era. Those problems were exacerbated by the bungled launch of the Barcelona processors, which prompted Ruiz to make a frank public apology last December."
The last thing i want is an intel/ms only world. Bad enough MIPS and PPC have gone the way of the dodo more or less. AMD is the last bastion of creativity in CPUs.
It appears their stocks have dropped 12% on this news.
http://finance.google.com/finance?client=ob&q=NYSE:AMD
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For me, it's all about the graphics. Last computer I bought, I got an Intel CPU, since that was the only way I could get decent 3D. Fortunately, I had little need for high performance. I only needed passable 3D and stability.
Anyone know what the status of ATI/AMD open source 3D is these days? This will seriously affect my next purchasing decision. If it's any good, then AMD (via ATI, at any rate) will be getting my money.
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And don't invest in ANY company that pays executives millions of dollars while they piss away the entire value of the company.
Hector Ruiz ran AMD into the ground (presiding over a catastrophic loss of close to 75% of the value of the company). He got paid millions and millions of dollars to do that? Wake up people.
Bummer. There was a time when I would choose AMD every time over Intel just for sheer "stick it to the man" value. The fact is though that Intel dualies outperform their AMD counterparts in nearly every way. I guess when a mediocre CPU manufacturer merges with a mediocre GPU manufacturer this is what you get.
I fell in love with AMD many years ago. They had the price and performance edge, and were also more stable than Intel. I think they need to take a step back an evaluate what the hell they're doing. They need to find a way to pull out of the competition while they clean up their act so they can start giving their customers what they want: cutting edge technology. I've read many articles about proposed AMD technologies, but I haven't seen many come to light (glueless HT, is one that comes to mind). Clean up your act!
Back at MOT (now freescale) I hear they called him Hector the Sector Director. People were happy to see him go. After his time at AMD, I'd call him "Hector Ruinz".
if instead of buying ATI, the dude spent the money on R&D and actually coming out with products that can compete with Intel CoreDuo, he might not be resigning...
How would have AMD impeded use of good 3D cards? Even if you thought nVidia SLI was the only 'good' answer, there are nForce chipsets for AMD with SLI too... I personally don't buy into the price-power-performance ratio of SLI or CrossFire, btw.
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You can't have a price performance edge as you put it and cutting edge tech. You have to get $$$ for R&D and to get it, you build it into your prices - like Intel does. That's why Intel's price/performance isn't as good as AMD's.
If AMD followed your advice, their prices would increase and their price/performance will match Intel's or worse - especially if they keep all their R&D here in the US.
Better grab those Intel processors while they're cheap, because once AMD goes under, you just know Intel will return to the good old days and jack prices up through the roof.
Must be nice having no competition in the market.
I can see your point, and it probably won't be until the October/November timeframe at best before distributions will make current-gen AMD/ATI graphics have 3D out of the box in an OSS way.
I personally used nVidia recently, though this laptop is AMD with their binary driver, which has been improving at least.
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I bought and recommended AMD products up until a few years ago. I did that then because they had the fastest / better CPUs on the market at that time. During the last few years I have went with Intel because they have the better products now. If AMD wants my future business, they need to come out with something that beats what Intel has.
What's with all the doom and gloom predictions and massive stock declines every time one of the 'underdog' companies (AMD, Apple, etc.) has a rough year? These up and down cycles are a natural part of business. AMD still has a lot going for it, and a lot to offer, even if they don't currently hold the technological 'edge' in the x86 market. Given a few years, the picture between Intel and AMD may well switch again - unless too many investors bail out prematurely, of course.
As it stands, it's pretty dire. The question is, can AMD turn around and match the 45nm process with a decent design before the Nehalem generation? I wonder that explicitly because the last bragging point they have is their interprocessor architecture and memory controller, which Nehalem matches. If Intel releases that and the rest of AMD's tech remains as disadvantaged as it is, watch for some of the 4-socket and above space that AMD still has some sway in move to Intel.
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Is this not even enough to save AMD?
I love my AMD systems. What the hell? How can you have a GREAT product, market share, and blow it as often as AMD has.
I hope they can come back. ATI was such a mistake, EVERYONE knew it was, I shake my head at what passes for management or vision these days.
You just know the guys that destroy good companies get many millions of dollars while the stock holders get shafted and the stake holders get ignored.
...I'd try to think where I'd last seen it and look there.
In this case, AMD should be looking at 2005.
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The way they mis-managed their semi-conductor division pretty much made that the kiss of death. Great technology and good folks there at both AMD and Motorola, but folks that use to be Motorola Management might as well run around in a bunch of robes chanting for their ability to screw things up.
Hmmm, perhaps just a coincidence but the EU has just expanded it's anti-trust investigation into Intel.
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080716-report-eu-to-expand-intel-antitrust-investigation.html
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Though I doubt it would ever happen.
IBM buys AMD, uses circumstances to:
-Advance the fab capabilities of AMD generally (hopefully invest to actually keep up with Intel instead of lagging by a year or so)
-Release a Cell processor variant, replacing the PPC core with an x86 core.
It seems far fetched, but at the same time, the #1 supercomputer is already an AMD/Cell hybrid (two Cell processor packages for every AMD package). However, I wouldn't anticipate that core being any more performance than the PPC core, just a different instruction set. It *could* really cause some grief for intel if it caught on though. The ability to run Windows and games like normal (maybe with a penalty), but SPU enabled software could really make for some amazing media manipulation and incredible games.
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The real deal is that Intel had some time ago cut back on R&D spending, and AMD made them pay for it.
Intel realized this, increased R&D spending, and voila - "luck" magically happened.
Do you think a company with tight R&D funding would have been having ANYONE look at older processors for potential? That's not luck, that's willingness to fund even avenues that might not seem like they have potential.
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I offered to pay for the losses myself but they said they did not have change for my EUR 50,- .
Hector.
Isn't this an opportunity for AMD??? Does AMD partner with Acer and other Taiwan/Korea/Asia-based laptop and desktop makers? If AMD went on an offensive to make ONLY Linux-friendly computer GPU's/cards, it could create a massive shakeup...
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That would be true if a higher percentage of people used Linux. As far as I'm aware, Windows users still hold the majority of the market. If that's still true, it would be a very bad choice for AMD to make only Linux-friendly GPU's/cards.
well lets go out and buy some AMD and ATI stuff then. Their stuff is pretty decent be it a slow come back I think AMD will just hang in their by the skin of their teeth. They do technically have the fastest single board Video card out their be it a little creative thinking in design, none the less its faster than nvidea and the spider platform is a brilliant concept and looks to work quite well they have also just launched Puma and i dont care what any one says AMD are very attractively Priced so all they need now is a stonking processor to cream the centrino and they will be back watch this space AMD or we are screwed I would hate a world ruled by Intel
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How would have AMD impeded use of good 3D cards? Even if you thought nVidia SLI was the only 'good' answer, there are nForce chipsets for AMD with SLI too... I personally don't buy into the price-power-performance ratio of SLI or CrossFire, btw.
You can't get an AMD computer with a 3D card with decent drivers under Linux. My experiences with the NVidia drivers have been less than stellar.
This comment is months out of date. Just go to Phoronix and get the facts - AMD's open-source graphics drivers are quite good, and their proprietary graphics drivers have great performance. This has been true ever since the major-overhaul-of-their-driver-stack cum release-of-specs some time ago.
..the first place I would check is under the couch cushions. I always find CEOs months later in there.
I have the original certificate for 10 shares of ATI stock. Should I trade that in and sell the stock? Or should I keep the certificate for nostalgic purposes and hope that one day the certificates will be worth something as a collectors item? ATI was a great company, AMD, is total crap.
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Unfortunately, as usual, management could only see 6-months ahead and the chip was canceled in favour of a 64-bit processor that was cheaper and easier to design and consequently would increase short-term revenue.
The processor that was hailed as a "revolutionary" x86 design, the Opteron, was, in fact, *directly* based off of the *K7* design. It was basically a K7 with a beefed up datapath, support for SSE2 and other miscellany, an on-board memory controller, and a high speed serial point-to-point interconnect as a replacement for the front side bus ( Hypertransport ) bolted on.
Now, you would think that the new Barcelona architecture was a great innovation, but not so much. It, like the Opteron, is a heavily leveraged design based off of the previous processor generation, namely the K8.
To get to the point, the fact is that AMD never truly created a new processor architecture -- they never truly innovated beyond bolting new crap onto old designs. In fact, the basic architecture of AMD's latest design, when you boil it down, is the same as the *K7*. Barcelona is just a ( very ) beefed up K7.
When you keep designing architectures like this you eventually hit a wall and start to stagnate due to the law of diminishing returns. So, while AMD basically did nothing essentially new with their architecture over the years, it gave Intel ample time to design, *from the ground up*, 5 new processor architectures : The Pentium-M, Core, Core 2, Nehalem, and Atom.
AMD's worst mistake was the cancellation of the Alpha EV8 inspired "K9" in 2003. Now they are paying for it.
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Thank heavens for representative government that works better than our own. The EU has been watching Intel for more than 8 years and already has outstanding charges that Intel thwarted AMD sales by selling at a loss. We've all seen how they crushed OLPC. Good for the EU for doing something, we can only hope it's not too little too late given worsening economic conditions.
The story's "AMD sucks" slant is puzzling. Advantages come and go, but AMD has almost always been better for number crunching since 2000. They also have had significantly better interconnects and architecture for multi core processors. It's like blaming the victim.
Another factor in this sad story is the Vista failure which has hurt all hardware sales. In the last year or so, we've seen spectacular bargains like $500 and less dual core laptops on clearance and the collapse of CompUSA and other big box stores. AMD will suffer more in this downturn because it comes as they were gaining share.
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The story's "AMD sucks" slant is puzzling. Advantages come and go, but AMD has almost always been better for number crunching since 2000. They also have had significantly better interconnects and architecture for multi core processors. It's like blaming the victim.
None of that matters when you can't run the company, which is what happened to AMD. Of course the 'victim' is being blamed, they did it to themselves.
Another factor in this sad story is the Vista failure which has hurt all hardware sales.
LOL, what does Microsoft have to do with anything? Are you implying that CompUSA collapsed because of Vista? WTF?
That last paragraph... seriously, I kept reading it and you're not even saying anything.
You have all forgotten about about Via Chips. They are building x86 procs now again.
I didn't realize that you could both 'Think Different' and 'Think APPLE'. Isn't that pretty much polar opposites? Once you an Apple fanboi, always ....
Stepping up to fill his shoes will be Dirk Meyer, previous company president and COO.
I'd think that the guy who lost $1.2Bn would have already filled his own shoes, so to speak.
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None of that matters when you can't run the company, which is what happened to AMD. Of course the 'victim' is being blamed, they did it to themselves.
there is no 'when you cant run the company' in a situation that your only competitor does malpractice. intel is charged with other stuff than monopoly practices in korea, where their high level people have engaged in dirty tricks to outmaneuver amd.
just like microsoft.
well, you are what your friends, are, as the saying goes.
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once eu fines intel for monopoly, and then starts fining them a few hundred thousand bucks a day if they dont follow up on what eu ordered, intel will shape up its act.
they are straightening up microsoft as such in europe. they've been fined a few million for media player lawsuits, they dragged foot and delayed complying, and eu started fining them daily for latency. whoopss - thats the way to whack a bully.
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AMD had the better CPU and intel bullied there p4 in to the OEM's at the time and that was bad for amd and that give intel the time to come out with there better cpu.
Since when does "Linux friendly" imply that the card won't work in windows?
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I agree with you saying they need to step back and look at what they are doing, but I don't agree with you on the cutting edge performance part. Granted, I want them to get back that that point, and so do a lot of other people, but I don't think they absolutely need to have the greatest performance in the industry to do well or attract new customers. The reason I started buying them was that they had the best price to performance ratio of anyone out there. To use an oversimplification, I got more megahertz for my money. That's what they did right.
So when it comes to fixing the company, they need to quit putting all their marketing dollars and hype into graphics and ati, or even into noise about how fast their latest and greatest processer is going to be. In fact, they especially need to quit hyping the perforamance of their upcoming processors, because if they are late (45nm anyone?), bungled (barcelona anyone?), etc, that's a big embarrassment. And even if everything is going to come off without a hitch, saying "we are going to have the fastest processer by the end of the year" only reinforces that you definately do not have it now. That's a negative differentiator for them, and they aren't going to win there.
Intel is faster than them right now, period. What they have to do is start heavilly marketing their price performance edge, because that is the one good differentiator they have in their favor right now. I'm one of those people that games, programs, and wants the fastest CPU possible, but I learned years ago I can't ever have it because I can't afford it, especially from Intel. However, I found I could get some great performance from AMD for a fraction of the price of a comparable Intel processor, and I've been hooked ever since. I'd be willing to bet they could hook a lot more customers just like me, especially in this economic climate. When they get the performance edge back, then they can start talking about that again, but the key to marketing is to play to your products' strengths, and price to performance is their current strength.
This last paragraph is kind of an afterthough... AMD might have a strong future as a business that makes most of its money on volume. An example of this would be Wal-Mart, which sells massive amounts of goods and makes almost zero profit on any of them, but sells so much of them that eventually those tiny little fractions of profits add up to billions. Intel is a premium product being sold at a premium price. There is no way that they should be selling more CPUs overall than AMD, especially on low to midrange PCs. AMD ought to be able to corner a vast portion of the market, maybe not making very much on each CPU, but surviving on volume. Its performance is good enough for most, and its price is better than Intel's, and having that kind of steady market share would give it a more permanent platform to compete from, and give it a steady enough source of income to take a shot at the performance crown again. But that all goes back to AMD realizing what strength it currently has, and playing to that strength, and we'll have to see if that ever happens. I think they had better hurry up though, because VIA is starting to make a play on that low end market, and if they get entrenched there, with Intel at the high end, AMD will have no place to go and will literally be squeezed out of the middle.
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The real price/performance ratio of SLI is skewed high to the price side. Allways has been, allways will be, until you add a second card and get >50% boost (not going to happen).
Economically, the problem is the same reason why buffets are allways money makers. Yeah you serve a crapload of food to a few fat guys who haven't eaten all day so they can go to the buffet, but you more than make up for it by the fact that most people don't need more than 1 plate of food, and even if they choose the most expensive portions, they are still under the price of admission. A meal at DQ costs 6 bucks or you can go to the buffet, pay 10-15 and get all you can eat, but really your going to eat as much as you would at DQ...
So ...
SLI gives you a HELLUVA performance boost, but if you don't buy the two fastest SLI cards at the time they come out, soon a single card solution will be almost as good (or better) and cost 1/2 as much. You get top teir performance for maybe 6-12 months.
And you still can't run Crysis. 8')
The folks at Maximumpc have long said in their mag and on their podcast (paraphrased)
SLI is for those who want it all and have the money to pay for it all right now. It provides the best performance you can get, but at a cost that is significantly higher.
How much is your data worth? Back it up now.
Twitter is obviously very intelligent, but under-challenged. Give Twitter a challenging job so he has something to do besides be annoying on Slashdot!
However, he should not be moderated down when he makes very sensible comments. If Intel is making money because of anti-competitive prices, then Intel should be sued by the EU, as the story says.
The biggest reason why AMD and Nvidia are near year-to-date lows is because of competition expected from new GPU products from Intel.
This wasn't a case of someone just doing it against management wishes. If you look at the time frame Intel was struggling because the Pentium 4M (mobile) chips were not power efficient. They were hot and sucked down battery life. As a result Pentium 3 mobile chips were still being sold in laptops that were designed for mobility versus the desktop replacements (P4M). Initially the Pentium 3 Mobile Tulatin core was released in speeds up to 1.4GHz.
From Tulatin the Pentium M was developed by the Israeli group which then lead to the Core and Core 2.
Intel was aware that it needed a mobile replacement for the Pentium 4 and this drove development of the Pentium M and Core processors.
The Core2 processors were the first to be used as Intel's primary desktop CPU as well as mobile CPU. At this point the Core2 outperformed the Pentium 4 and didn't suffer from the P4's problems with power and heat generation. It isn't as though the Core2 just popped out of nowhere. The CPU was part of Intel's evolutionary plans for a mobile CPU going back to the P3 mobile.
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The way you speak, it's like you install the latest vintage of the popular vintages of distributions and ATI hardware should magically have drivers loaded.
It also makes it sounds like the 3D goodness of the OSS driver is mature and even working nearly immediately after spec release.
It also suggests that the ATI binary blob has not been plagued with problems.
The simple fact is, the 3D support isn't still fully baked even in the source control trees, especially not in any distribution. The effort to run those drivers is not insurmountable, but it does require checking out code, compiling it, etc etc. It's not in something that people would declare a release. Note even demo, proof-of-concept glxgears on one system was actually a couple of months after the specs released.
And while the binary driver has markedly improved, you still have high incidents of 'unsupported hardware' watermarks, some corruption, suspend problems, and more depending on hardware. Speaking from experience as a Radeon driven laptop that has been chasing the code. Yes, the 3D performance finally got respectable, and AIGLX finally got implemented, but it's still quite rough around the edges.
That said, I hope by Intrepid in ubuntu world and Fedora 10 in that world, they include OSS ATI goodness, as those drivers are really coming into their own on their development trees.
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The fact of the matter is neither nVidia nor ATI is used to dealing with the pace of linux changes. This is made more complicated by the reality of trying to support so many distributions at different points in that spectrum while trying to patch your own bugs. Doing this while at the same time preserving the relatively straightforward task of presenting a simple, single, versioned package is staggering.
As a result, frequently they have problems and non-compliance issues. Right this second, for example, the closed drivers don't play perfectly well with xrandr, and you have to use proprietary tools to change multihead configuration.
As much as I love linux as a user, some of the design decisions make it really hard for one vendor to support multiple distributions. If they open source it, then each distribution of note will make the effort to bring it in and customize it.
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we are having a hard time. The g33 (not shure on the 33) is crashing quite a lot. It seem graphics related since the monitor only syncs every second and there are funny pixels.
My good ol ati r200 has some problems with signal quality on the DVI but no crashes!
Also, Linux users are mostly computer geeks. We tend to buy computers and parts more often than most.
My posts are definitive. Reality is frequently inaccurate.
That's why I say, help the man find himself a job, so he can use his intelligence for a good purpose.
Instead of complaining, help solve the sociological and psychological problem. *grin*
I don't know, right now virtualization is the big thing. Both AMD and Intel currently have hadware virtualization in the CPU, but as far as I know, there is no hardware virtualization in any of the GPUs. If AMD can use ATI's tech to bring out a GPU/CPU platform that would allow a GPU hypervisor to control 3D surfaces that were each virtualized GPUs via hardware so that any OS running on top of the virtual machine thought it had complete control of the GPU, AMD would be poised for a HUGE win. If I could run WindowsXP (work copy), WindowsXP (Gaming Copy), Ubuntu, and maybe even an experimental OS or two, without having to give up 3D, I would replace my PC today.
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Just asking, because I remember iNTEL has a compiler that some claim to have proven biases its code output against AMD.
It's a little hard to talk about embrace and extend when iNTEL owns the original rights to x86, but is there a possibility that the instability was due to attempting to run opcodes that AMD hadn't emulated?
I know, if you start digging into these sorts of questions, there doesn't seem to be any end, but these are precisely where Microsoft established its monopoly. Sometimes, it's necessary to take a performance (or price/performance) hit, as an investment in the future plurality of the marketplace.
Euthenasia would serve the same purpose and also stop him from continuing to abuse /. with his multiple sockpuppets and inane rantings.
Are you seriously trying to blame Twitter for Vista's poor reputation? Take a look outside Slashdot for a second;
Google search:
Results 1 - 10 of about 9,170 for "Vista failure". (0.18 seconds)
Do you really think Twitter is that influential?
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I've read most of the comments, and the amount of FUD and baseless comments is amazing
1) From a technological standpoint, Intel is no better off than AMD. The Q9300 is only about 6-8% faster than their previous CPU (the Q6600), and it trails at many task because it has 2MB less L3 Cache than the Q6600. In addition, not only does it run hotter, but it doesn't overclock nearly as well. Of course you could go up to the Q9450, but you'd be paying $325 for a CPU with an 8X multiplier and a faulty temperature sensor (which is a known problem for their 45nm CPUs).
2) In terms of efficiency, nothing Intel makes comes even close to the 4850e. 2.5Ghz Dual Core CPU, running at only 45w. That's more than enough muscle for the average joe, and quite impressive if people weren't so thirsty for quad cores they don't even need.
3) The AMD A770 and 780G are both excellent chipsets, and the 3800 series GPU's marked the return of ATi, while the 4800 even further closed the gap from nVidia. Meanwhile, the G35 chipset has compatibility issues with DDR2 1066, as well as another chipset (who's name escapes me at the moment), and the GeForce 9600GT suffers from the Black Screen of Death. Now, can someone PLEASE tell me why purchasing ATi was such a bad idea, seeing how they're the only division of AMD that's actually gaining momentum at the moment?
The only part of AMD that need to be fixed is their flagship CPU department. The Phenom is an exact repeat this idiot CEO did with the 64-Bit transition. In short, he let the Athlon XP line go completely to shit because he knew Hammer was coming soon. Only this time when he put his all his eggs in one basket, the basket had a hole in the bottom of it. Granted, needing a better flagship product is quite the problem to fix, but to say that the company sucks from top to bottom is hyperbole at its finest.
They kinda turned the gun against NVidia with the latest cards, if they can keep it up, I'm sure they can cook something for the processors...
Intel's Core technology is good. However, AMD still maintains a lead when it comes to 64bit Linux, running MySQL.
Although we're no longer buying AMD systems for our 64bit database servers... Why? Nvidia.
Almost no one uses AMD's chipsets. Finding a decent system with a Broadcom (ServerWorks) chipset is extremely hard. All of the damn "server class" chipsets are using Nvidia! And Nvidia is far from server class. In every DB server we have, in 64bit, no matter what revision of the kernel (we're had this running on 2.6.25), extremely high load on the network interface causes the interface to barf. If you look at the downloadable NIC driver from Nvidia's site, its the "forcedeth", reverse engineered driver, which doesn't work properly.
Not having a properly functioning NIC on a server class board is a problem. For one, it forces us to use up a PCIe slot and install a different NIC. So now we're down a slot, and out extra money for something already built onto the motherboard.
This futher complicates things, as you cannot use IPMI with an addin NIC. In addition, IF the stupid Nvidia NIC actually worked, the implemention of IPMI on any NIC non-Intel is flawed. Intel's IPMI implementation binds to the NIC's MAC, whereas all of the other implementations I've seen (Nvidia's and Broadcom's) use a separate MAC, thus a separate IP, for management... Without the benefit of having a secondary NIC for out-of-band management.
AMD has concentrated too much on the desktop, where there is no money to be made. They've let their server platform suffer, and as a result, are loosing money in that sector because Intel, unfortunately, delivers a better enterprise-class ecosystem.
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Do you think 9,170 is so significant? If anything Vista is a roaring success!
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Now if you search correctly with quotes...
Google Search:
Results 1 - 10 of about 4,570 for "linux failure"
Not that either search means much. But lets at least compare similar items.
Lin-sux lost the desktop to OS X, and is now in the process of losing the server to OS X as well. OS X will take over every niche Lin-sux holds simply because it is backed by idiots, and programmed by amateur morons who have no considerations for security, performance, features, usability, etc.
Lin-sux DESERVES to die, and I for one hope that it happens sooner rather than later so that more people can know the true beauty that is OS X.
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linux is most definatly not programed by amateur morons it wouldn\t have lasted 5 seconds if it was.
also linux is FREE this makes it vastly superiour to Apple
linux is more secure than apple in many areas becouse it is patched so much faster.
it is also takes advatage of the latest and grearest technologies wich is both usefull and fun
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The AMD Athlon was a superior CPU over Intel's Prescott core Pentium 4 because 1) the Athlon's CPU core was a more modern design and 2) it ran WAY cooler than the Pentium 4 CPU's of that period.
But once Intel struck back with the Core and Core 2 Duo CPU's with its cooler-running technology borrowed from the Pentium III-M CPU plus a new CPU core, Intel got back its technological lead that it has yet to relinquish.
their interprocessor architecture and memory controller, which Nehalem matches.
The big difference is that Hypertransport is an open standard.
Whereas Quickpath is an Intel technology that has to be licensed.
There's already have been problems between nVidia and Intel to come to some licensing terms. And if there's no quickpath in nVidia chipsets, you won't be seeing any nvidia based motherboard for nehalem with support for SLI.
Also Hypertransport support has been announced for lots of different products, including FPGAs that can plug into processor sockets. I have yet to hear Quickpath being announced on anything but Intel processors.
In short, quickpath and hypertransport are technically comparable. But AMD's offers possibility for a whole ecosystem to grow around it, Intel's will probably limited to communication between Intel branded CPUs and Intel branded chipsets, with maybe a couple of licensee who'll throw the necessary money.
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As an EU resident I must inform you that the European Commission isn't a government, and neither is it representative. The European Parliament is the only European institute that is directly elected by the population, however, its powers are quite limited.
Try something a bit more accurate:
Personalized Results 1 - 50 of about 383,000 for windows vista sucks. (0.20 seconds)
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And the technical tradeoffs. However, the fact remains the ability to execute x86 and x86-64 opcodes is of vital importance practically speaking.
XML is like violence. If it doesn't solve the problem, use more.
My recollection is that MSFT was dragging their feet on the introduction of a "mainstream" 64-bit Windows for literally years and that the AMD people were screaming bloody murder about it, and that "mainstream" Win64 only miraculously appeared at about exactly the same time that Intel was ready to release EM64T, so that, as a result, AMD completely lost their chance for a competitive advantage.
Now if my memory is faulty, then have at it - but I'm pretty sure that that's the way it went down [and no, I don't feel like Googling the dates - I seem to recall that there was a very buggy AMD64 Windows 2003 Server for a while, which got almost no traction in the marketplace, and then AMD64 Windows XP coincided more with the release of EM64T - whereas, by contrast, there had been an IA64 Windows XP for Itanium all the way back in 2001, which probably sold all of about 2 or 3 copies worldwide].
PS: Whether MSFT deliberately dragged their feet as a favor to Intel, or whether the AMD people bungled the corporate negotiations to get MSFT to port to AMD64, I know not, but I definitely remember that there was a good year or 18 months when all you could run on AMD64 was Linux or FreeBSD, and that was precisely the year or 18 months that AMD needed to seize control of the marketplace [which opportunity, as we have since seen, has been lost forever - or at least until the marketplace decides to switch from 64-bit to 128-bit address spaces, and someone else gets a chance to upstage Intel].
Moral of the story being that the greatest hardware in the world is utterly worthless without useable, productivity-enhancing software to run on it.
so ... it's supposed to be a free market ... that doesnt mean that the best product is always allowed to survive ... in general i'm afraid we'll have to put up with the general stupidity of general human kind ..
Free speech was meant to be free for all... how can anyone grow up in a nanny state ?
That's why I say, help the man find himself a job, so he can use his intelligence for a good purpose.
How long to you think someone whose version of entertainment is to piss people off would last in a job? How long would someone who is so insecure as to have shill accounts so he can prop up his opinions last?
After digging for price per performance, I concluded that the cheapest rig I could get the most out of was an AMD X2 system with an nVidia card. Sure, Intel's crap is faster, but its just as expensive, and my system came with onboard 6100 so i can dual monitor it with dual gpu's. This segrigates memory in a way I thought ATI's cards could do only before. Yeah, I can even run Crysis on my $300 machine. Eat that. And my $500 laptop. and my $450 gaming pc. All are in the same basic config. All are AMD X2 3800/4000 or TK55 or whatever the jesus it is. All have nVidia 6100 (secondary display, mind you)/6800/8400GT/8800GTS Run vista and xp just fine.