it's actually meant to be a guide to see what products are out there for silencing your PC; nobody is preventing you from hitting www.google.com with a few howto search strings!
- Colin McRae2
- Doom 1 (ow yeah)
- Insane
- MotoGP2
- Need for Speed Hot Pursuit 2
- Quake 3
- Quake
- Serious Sam & SE
- UT2003 / UT2004
- Painkiller
here's why
- Doom: pretty cool and fast, played coop with 3-4 other players
- MotoGP2: needs lots of riders (8+) to be enjoyable if the participants have different skill levels.
- Quake: best DM game ever, some fine moments
- Serious Sam: game of the LAN, 7-8 player COOP games with Nightmare/Serious difficulty level, about 20-30 bad guys coming at you at the same time, really fun, must have played this game about 6-8 hours none stop
- Painkiller: Pretty cool game; Quake MP quality with nicer graphics and some twists!
So what was going to be a relatively easy summary has now become a little bit more convoluted thanks to the extreme overclocking ability of the Mobile Athlon chip.
Basically in short we can conclude the following.
- If you're looking to run at straight out of the box stock speeds, then going for the Athlon XP 2500+ should be a no brainer. The XP either beats or almost matches the Mobile chip in every benchmark and can be had at a lower price
- If however you're a tweaker, a freaker, a mad cookie eater, then by all means spend that extra four bones that is burning a hole in your pocket and pick up a Mobile Athlon chip (and as you can see above, we found it for the exact same price as the standard Barton). Even if by some chance you get a dud in the overclocking department you'll still have a chip that can easily run at stock XP speeds all the while requiring MUCH less voltage which will enable you to have a quiet if not super fast gaming system.
- Finally, if you're looking at the Sempron do it only if you absolutely cannot afford that extra ten bucks that it's going to cost you to move up to a Barton based XP processor. Though admittedly marketed at the low end internet/email usage market, AMD 2500+ Performance Rating system just doesn't hold up here. With the return of the low end Duron-esque processor let's hope AMD moves to a new naming system so as not to confuse Joe AOL who picks up a Sempron 2500+ thinking he's getting a great deal picking up the newest AMD chip at a great price to expecting it to perform at par with the regular Athlon XP chip his twelve year old kid made him promise to get.
this article made me think of a AMD Duron Applebred vs. Athlon XP Thoroughbred review we did. pretty much the same results here; Duron/Sempron not recommended, even for going "on the cheap";
you're right about the SP-94, made a mistake, however afaik the SP-97 is still available, Thermalright's webpage says so, and hundreds of webshops still offer them for sale.
The Swiftech MCX462-V (MVX does not exist afaik;)) is not the best heatsink out there money can buy. There are a lot of others which beat the Swiftech in both performance, price and noise levels. I've done 2 AMD heatsink roundups, one of them was posted at/. here
The latest update I made can be found here from August 2004 and includes tons of innovative Heatpipe coolers which deliver great performance at a lower price! can't beat that?
Look for a Thermalright SP-94 or Sharkoon HSP1 to get your AMD chilly:)
if everything can be mapped correctly sure why not, it will do no harm to have a backup system in case the real hardware crashes, hell I have a Windows 2003 virtual server running on a Workstation for testing server applications:)
well.. by sending your text messages through your host it will get logged in their server stats, if police needs to see through them, they have the right.
the Eluminx's I had didn't shut down, ever, even when hooked up and with the system shut off, it got enough power from the standby current to keep being eluminated, meaning it was on always:-/
the only way to make it go off was: a) pull the keyboard out b) pull powercable from PC c) brake the lights in the keyboard
neither of these solutions are "recommended" for "ease of use" imho
I had an Eluminux keyboard for test one year ago. I you have your keyboard sitting in front of your screen you won't really find any advantages, and it makes it annoying when watching movies in the dark.
But when you have it in a setup where otherwise you are unable to see the keys, these keyboards are magic, LANparties spring to mind, although these keyboards are more compact (like a laptop keyboard) and if you use the arrow keys for gaming, you are out of luck.
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it's actually meant to be a guide to see what products are out there for silencing your PC; nobody is preventing you from hitting www.google.com with a few howto search strings!
Mafia had this feature, running lights, or passing the speed limit would "enable" the cops to come chase you. not always fun. :)
13/09 is a perfect way of stating 13th September;
WTF are you blubbering about
- Colin McRae2
- Doom 1 (ow yeah)
- Insane
- MotoGP2
- Need for Speed Hot Pursuit 2
- Quake 3
- Quake
- Serious Sam & SE
- UT2003 / UT2004
- Painkiller
here's why
- Doom: pretty cool and fast, played coop with 3-4 other players
- MotoGP2: needs lots of riders (8+) to be enjoyable if the participants have different skill levels.
- Quake: best DM game ever, some fine moments
- Serious Sam: game of the LAN, 7-8 player COOP games with Nightmare/Serious difficulty level, about 20-30 bad guys coming at you at the same time, really fun, must have played this game about 6-8 hours none stop
- Painkiller: Pretty cool game; Quake MP quality with nicer graphics and some twists!
old review.. from 13/09.. not new?
So what was going to be a relatively easy summary has now become a little bit more convoluted thanks to the extreme overclocking ability of the Mobile Athlon chip.
Basically in short we can conclude the following.
- If you're looking to run at straight out of the box stock speeds, then going for the Athlon XP 2500+ should be a no brainer. The XP either beats or almost matches the Mobile chip in every benchmark and can be had at a lower price
- If however you're a tweaker, a freaker, a mad cookie eater, then by all means spend that extra four bones that is burning a hole in your pocket and pick up a Mobile Athlon chip (and as you can see above, we found it for the exact same price as the standard Barton). Even if by some chance you get a dud in the overclocking department you'll still have a chip that can easily run at stock XP speeds all the while requiring MUCH less voltage which will enable you to have a quiet if not super fast gaming system.
- Finally, if you're looking at the Sempron do it only if you absolutely cannot afford that extra ten bucks that it's going to cost you to move up to a Barton based XP processor. Though admittedly marketed at the low end internet/email usage market, AMD 2500+ Performance Rating system just doesn't hold up here. With the return of the low end Duron-esque processor let's hope AMD moves to a new naming system so as not to confuse Joe AOL who picks up a Sempron 2500+ thinking he's getting a great deal picking up the newest AMD chip at a great price to expecting it to perform at par with the regular Athlon XP chip his twelve year old kid made him promise to get.
this article made me think of a AMD Duron Applebred vs. Athlon XP Thoroughbred review we did. pretty much the same results here; Duron/Sempron not recommended, even for going "on the cheap";
who da man now? :p
HOURS not DAYS but brain into motion before mouth.
you're right about the SP-94, made a mistake, however afaik the SP-97 is still available, Thermalright's webpage says so, and hundreds of webshops still offer them for sale.
The Swiftech MCX462-V (MVX does not exist afaik ;)) is not the best heatsink out there money can buy. There are a lot of others which beat the Swiftech in both performance, price and noise levels. I've done 2 AMD heatsink roundups, one of them was posted at /. here
:)
The latest update I made can be found here from August 2004 and includes tons of innovative Heatpipe coolers which deliver great performance at a lower price! can't beat that?
Look for a Thermalright SP-94 or Sharkoon HSP1 to get your AMD chilly
a very valid point, those custom I/O boards are a pickle, but sure there must be a way to address those through the host system.
if everything can be mapped correctly sure why not, it will do no harm to have a backup system in case the real hardware crashes, hell I have a Windows 2003 virtual server running on a Workstation for testing server applications :)
well.. by sending your text messages through your host it will get logged in their server stats, if police needs to see through them, they have the right.
Same goes with your data on your PC
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You'd think a $100 keyboard should have this button? I do too. but unfortunately there is none to be found :-(
the Eluminx's I had didn't shut down, ever, even when hooked up and with the system shut off, it got enough power from the standby current to keep being eluminated, meaning it was on always :-/
the only way to make it go off was:
a) pull the keyboard out
b) pull powercable from PC
c) brake the lights in the keyboard
neither of these solutions are "recommended" for "ease of use" imho
I had an Eluminux keyboard for test one year ago. I you have your keyboard sitting in front of your screen you won't really find any advantages, and it makes it annoying when watching movies in the dark.
But when you have it in a setup where otherwise you are unable to see the keys, these keyboards are magic, LANparties spring to mind, although these keyboards are more compact (like a laptop keyboard) and if you use the arrow keys for gaming, you are out of luck.