In case you are out of touch with what your military is currently doing, I'll fill you in. You people invaded and are currently occupying a nation that held absolutely no threat to you. And your service men have slaughtered, and ARE slaughtering, hundreds of thousands of civilian men women and children.
If you don't find that atrocious, I'd hate to see what it takes to turn your stomach.
... in order to find his "joke" funny, you would have to believe (on some level) that the US military really DOES go out and commit atrocities on a regular basis. You mean you haven't been paying attention?
You know, you are absolutely correct. I for one am really glad that we still see inovation in the whalebone corset fields as well as Flint Chipping (tm) Now! technology.
OR!
We could agree that yes, these flat display screens we already have work great and really improving them further is a bit of overkill and instead direct our inovative talents at something new.
Perhaps you just don't like the design of your wheels and really want to see a better one, perhaps this time based on the square instead of the circle, developed?
If I vandalize your home should you only be able to sue me for the cost to clean it up? And also the amount needed to replace anything damaged. Yes, that's the rules, you can't just pick a huge number and sue for that. You have to show how much the damage actually cost for you.
Um, please look at the things that have happened in the past few years. Two of Iran's neighboring nations have been invaded, and the rulers at the times of the invasions have been killed publicly. The nation that did the invading stated at the begining of this that they also wanted to invade another country, North Korea. North Korea got it's hands on some "nukes" and shouted as loud as they could that they have them. North Korea has not been invaded and Kim Jong Il is still alive.
Yes, if I was Ahmadinejad I would be trying like hell to get me some deterrence to avoid being bombed. I mean imagine if you are Iran, look east, look west and then shit yourself. And our (USA) decision to *not* invade North Korea gave him what he could logically see as a possible solution. Did we force Iran's hand? I believe so, even if indirectly.
(and Ahmadinejad knows this, as he's a civil engineer) I guess the old saying "MechE's make weapons, CivE's make targets" applies then?
Everything belongs in context. In this context it's not about individual violence. A better description than the really over-the-top example you used would be:
You daughter gets raped and murdered. The crime gets reported. The person who is suspected of doing the crime lives in a run down apartment building that everyone knows houses nothing but criminals. Instead of arresting the suspect at work (imagine they know where he works, and no he hasn't ducked out) they decide instead to organize a SWAT raid on the whole building. During the raid the police enter 12 seperate residenses and make 18 arrests for other crimes (drug possesion that sort of thing). The police during the raid injure 9 people (2 placed in ICU) and one person is fatally wounded. During the confusion, no one manages to arrest the murder/rape suspect. In fact he's wasn't home at the time of the raid, he was at work. Later, in a press release, the Chief of Police explains to the press that the raid was done to catch the man suspected (photo given out, if you know his location please call (bet you money he skips town at this point)) and they show a photo of the girl that he supossedly raped and murdered. And the photo of the concerned father. You live a mile from the location of the raid.
Now, that's a better analogy, and if it were up to me I'd prefer that instead of what I just outlined that they arrest him at work.
There may be liabilities to my speech (i.e. if I tell the boss to go to hell I might lose my job), but the government won't be knocking down my door. Exactly.
Yes actually, it protects everyone of those things. However, it does not remove the consequences if what you've choosen to do violates ordinances and laws.
You're right, it does. I'll be over later to spray-paint a message on the side of your house. You can, that's the beauty of freedom, you are free to choose to do this. You are then also free to waive your right to a jury trial when you are charged with vandalism. You are then free to appeal. I'm free to sue you for damages on top of that.
Being free to do something doesn't mean there are no consequences, it simply means you can choose to do something.
(this is in reference to the Amen Break, an extremely over used piece of audio that the originators were never paid for, nor were they granted copyright)
According to the various sources you read, everything on my blog/forum comments/youtube uploads is mine via copyright. Will these "cops" protect me too and seize every computer they can find wth a copy (cache) of my flickr photos?
The problem being this, copyright infringement is NOT a criminal offence. It's a civil matter. No one, not one single person is in prison for the crime of "copyright infringement", at all.
Fair enough, good call on the memory, change out the $60 one for this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134648 and toss in a http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815108108 and it meets your specs. The new total coming too $2,739.87 plus $16.40 for shipping to my zip code. The price of the OS, free, I'll take the Ubuntu option. The shipping on that Mac I linked to isn't free, it's $29.49 according to newegg. As far as a guarantee, every part on my list has at least a one year manufacturers warranty, so the parts are covered. So, still cheaper, still more machine. Though you are right about the case, the Antec stuff is a lot more atractive. I personally find it more appealing than the white (looks pretty white in these http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883104031 photos) case that Apple offers.
The conclusion, the Apple hardware is overpriced. Do keep in mind I'm paying retail for these parts, I'd bet that someone with a resellers license and agreement could build it much cheaper.
You are right though, not the same specs. The cheaper one has a bigger hard disk, more memory, better video card and no $30 bluetooth dongle or wifi dongle. Plus I get my pick of OS, which I'd go with XP or Ubuntu. Sorry, many disagree with me but I've always thought the Apple UI was ugly. It's just so damned friendly looking, ick. Plus the extra bonus, the case isn't white. Never did like the white case thing, reminds me of kitchen appliances.
Two/three weeks ago seemed everyone here in slashdot world was screaming their lungs out saying this company and product was a "hoax" and anyone ordering one of these was getting ripped off.
I could be wrong, but if you purchase something, the company ships it as ordered and it is what it was claimed to be even if a little noiser *than you'd hoped* I doubt very much you could claim fraud.
It's a tongue in cheek reference made by legal assistants, secretaries, paralegals and the like who tend to work for defense attorneys. No, I'm not trying to claim that is what they are called in any official sense. I mean, what company has an official position called PBH? None that I know of, yet here if someone mentioned a PBH and I challenged them to tell me what corporation had officers of that title folks would think I was nuts.
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In case you are out of touch with what your military is currently doing, I'll fill you in. You people invaded and are currently occupying a nation that held absolutely no threat to you. And your service men have slaughtered, and ARE slaughtering, hundreds of thousands of civilian men women and children.
If you don't find that atrocious, I'd hate to see what it takes to turn your stomach.
... in order to find his "joke" funny, you would have to believe (on some level) that the US military really DOES go out and commit atrocities on a regular basis. You mean you haven't been paying attention?You know, you are absolutely correct. I for one am really glad that we still see inovation in the whalebone corset fields as well as Flint Chipping (tm) Now! technology.
OR!
We could agree that yes, these flat display screens we already have work great and really improving them further is a bit of overkill and instead direct our inovative talents at something new.
Perhaps you just don't like the design of your wheels and really want to see a better one, perhaps this time based on the square instead of the circle, developed?
Thank you for that, I'm writing this one down to tell folks at my office.
If I had the points, I'd mod you +1 Awesome.
What do you mean "next war"? It's already started...
Yes, if I was Ahmadinejad I would be trying like hell to get me some deterrence to avoid being bombed. I mean imagine if you are Iran, look east, look west and then shit yourself. And our (USA) decision to *not* invade North Korea gave him what he could logically see as a possible solution. Did we force Iran's hand? I believe so, even if indirectly. (and Ahmadinejad knows this, as he's a civil engineer) I guess the old saying "MechE's make weapons, CivE's make targets" applies then?
Everything belongs in context. In this context it's not about individual violence. A better description than the really over-the-top example you used would be:
You daughter gets raped and murdered. The crime gets reported. The person who is suspected of doing the crime lives in a run down apartment building that everyone knows houses nothing but criminals. Instead of arresting the suspect at work (imagine they know where he works, and no he hasn't ducked out) they decide instead to organize a SWAT raid on the whole building. During the raid the police enter 12 seperate residenses and make 18 arrests for other crimes (drug possesion that sort of thing). The police during the raid injure 9 people (2 placed in ICU) and one person is fatally wounded. During the confusion, no one manages to arrest the murder/rape suspect. In fact he's wasn't home at the time of the raid, he was at work. Later, in a press release, the Chief of Police explains to the press that the raid was done to catch the man suspected (photo given out, if you know his location please call (bet you money he skips town at this point)) and they show a photo of the girl that he supossedly raped and murdered. And the photo of the concerned father. You live a mile from the location of the raid.
Now, that's a better analogy, and if it were up to me I'd prefer that instead of what I just outlined that they arrest him at work.
Do you get it yet?
Yes actually, it protects everyone of those things. However, it does not remove the consequences if what you've choosen to do violates ordinances and laws.
Being free to do something doesn't mean there are no consequences, it simply means you can choose to do something.
No one has ever said that being free to say something means that you shouldn't be held to account if what you said caused damage.
Very correct, thank you for reminding us. We should all remember this, sadly I had nearly forgotten.
Amen my brother, Amen.
(this is in reference to the Amen Break, an extremely over used piece of audio that the originators were never paid for, nor were they granted copyright)
Simply put, it's time for box number three.
According to the various sources you read, everything on my blog/forum comments/youtube uploads is mine via copyright. Will these "cops" protect me too and seize every computer they can find wth a copy (cache) of my flickr photos?
No it doesn't, please read the act.
You can't, it has never happened.
Copyright infringement is a civil matter, not a criminal offense.
The problem being this, copyright infringement is NOT a criminal offence. It's a civil matter. No one, not one single person is in prison for the crime of "copyright infringement", at all.
Fair enough, good call on the memory, change out the $60 one for this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134648 and toss in a http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815108108 and it meets your specs. The new total coming too $2,739.87 plus $16.40 for shipping to my zip code. The price of the OS, free, I'll take the Ubuntu option. The shipping on that Mac I linked to isn't free, it's $29.49 according to newegg. As far as a guarantee, every part on my list has at least a one year manufacturers warranty, so the parts are covered. So, still cheaper, still more machine. Though you are right about the case, the Antec stuff is a lot more atractive. I personally find it more appealing than the white (looks pretty white in these http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883104031 photos) case that Apple offers.
The conclusion, the Apple hardware is overpriced. Do keep in mind I'm paying retail for these parts, I'd bet that someone with a resellers license and agreement could build it much cheaper.
"Secondly, the "overcharge" is still a myth" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883104031 $2,794.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121330
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211271
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152052
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814143116
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151154
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129024
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117144 x2 -- Total $2,544.88
You are right though, not the same specs. The cheaper one has a bigger hard disk, more memory, better video card and no $30 bluetooth dongle or wifi dongle. Plus I get my pick of OS, which I'd go with XP or Ubuntu. Sorry, many disagree with me but I've always thought the Apple UI was ugly. It's just so damned friendly looking, ick. Plus the extra bonus, the case isn't white. Never did like the white case thing, reminds me of kitchen appliances.
http://apple.slashdot.org/apple/08/04/18/1858222.shtml and the comments therein is what I meant by fraud.
Two/three weeks ago seemed everyone here in slashdot world was screaming their lungs out saying this company and product was a "hoax" and anyone ordering one of these was getting ripped off.
I could be wrong, but if you purchase something, the company ships it as ordered and it is what it was claimed to be even if a little noiser *than you'd hoped* I doubt very much you could claim fraud.
Seems it's not a fraud box after all. Who'da thunk?
Why exactly do you think that the casual home user is trying to manage a room full of servers?
It's a tongue in cheek reference made by legal assistants, secretaries, paralegals and the like who tend to work for defense attorneys. No, I'm not trying to claim that is what they are called in any official sense. I mean, what company has an official position called PBH? None that I know of, yet here if someone mentioned a PBH and I challenged them to tell me what corporation had officers of that title folks would think I was nuts.