the appropriate "tags" for this article, in my opinion, would be "slashvertising", and "blog", indicating the reasonable suspicions one should have well in hand to approach a posting like this.
is that the point, or is tagging for something else?
possibly a sop to the umpteen "legimate" spyware/updateware that so many software companies use these days?
Microsoft threw up its hands in the teeth of angry antivirus, mediaplayer, IM and financial software companies and said, "I care not- thee du hast all myne boxen, alas!"
sure makes it easier for HP to update their 4 gigabyte software installs with up to the minute printer drivers.
preconfigured by who? you? that's a little different.
most light duty firewalls have loads of preconfigured services(for gaming and such) if that's what you mean, but they're not turned on by default. 90% of the time, it's inbound=no, outbound=yes
Proprietary is not a funny word, it is a very unpleasant one to have to hear several times a day.
Many, many parts in the great majority of Dell PCs are proprietary, starting with *the motherboard* and PSUs, FP connectors, etc. the meaning of proprietary is very, very simple. if a part breaks, which they frequently do in Dells, and Dell does not sell it, which they frequently do NOT, you are, as our friends in the shady isles put it, boned.
nothing to do with VGA adapters, everything to do with locking down the consumer. Dell sucks rotten ass on this issue; they are the worst maker out there in this regard, not least because they such god-awful cheap, crappy parts in their PCs.
You cleverly leave out the part where the reasons stated by Britannica for not accepting a particular criticism were *correct*.
They are perfectly right to pick nits with these "errors" and have managed to make a fine defense of themselves.
the criticisms of omission, misattribution and missing context are startling on a number of levels; somebody should lose their job for pulling that kind of bullshit.
the criticisms vis weight of errors is also valid, and this was pointed out and generally agreed upon in the original hoopla about this "study", which more rightly should have been called a scholarly reveiw.
When the first, as you correctly assumed, Pentium M chips hit the market, there were not compatible desktop boards-that came later. PMs came in OEM notebooks and were, I feel, a stealth way of Intel apologizing for ditching the veddy nice PIII architecture. but they certainly didn't come ready to go for Sock370 or 462 or anything.
consumer/builder options for the chip were non-existant, so I kind of crossed it of my list, you know? there is a socket converter that allows you you to hack a P M to some socket or other, but jinkies, that seems like a bandaid, compared to streamlining some chip you've got to the point where its a new beast, casting it in a pin format that already exists and saying, 'have fun, see you on sunday'
its worth it- i dashed that off and lay in fear of Latin grammarians.
i was thinking 'ad rei publicae +witty noun' i guess, but that that didn't make sense unless there's an unstated object of the dative that could be assumed- "the (minds of) the geek poplutions
ad rei publicae mentis geeki? ahh, screw it.
how about, 'ad publica geeki' and call it a day.:)
That's a good question- unless that Compaq board was designed by a far-thinking engineer, it probably won't support the CPU automatically. if it diod, our you can find a BIOS update, then I'd expect you'd cut your CPU chip power consumption in half and heat transfer energy costs correspondingly.
that's a $250 experiment, though, and getting it out of the notebook might be a challenge- the heatsink is integral to the case/motherboard and often glued on to the core. disassemble methodically and carefully.
I love the idea of low power, high-concept CPUs on desktop machines.
I love the fact that these chips are 754 pin and thus compatible with an existing socket- motherboard manufacturers won't have to ramp up any new hardware to start selling boards for these in every color of the rainbow.
Turion Shuttles/insert small FF MB here/, anyone?
and there are loads of legacy boards available. Socket 754 boards are dirt cheap. here's a handy list of compatibles from the article:
I would have jumped all over the P M, except there was no desktop gear for it; unless I bought a notebook PC and did some expensive hacking, which, ad publicae geekio, is a contradiction in terms.
This is not a rumour. a little digging on Gogle News on relatively obscure or narrow-interest news stories will reliably turn up fake news stories, press releases, obviously astroturfed blog entries and etc.
Google News. like Google search , is useful only in two ways- superficial examination of topics relevant to others and watching the attempts of interested parties to gain influnce.
real research and real news gathering need the services that truly provide valuable data aggregation, like Lexis and Pubmed, OED, etc. You gets what your pay for.
that still leaves me with questions regarding the post to which i responded. was he lying, operating on some level of Dell onsite support heretofor unknown or just2, like, pretending to by a Dell tech for the glory of it???
Dell no longer sells or ships OEM software. I have had several unpleasant experiences regading this recently. you can make a set of backup CDs, but it you don't and your system is past warranty, you are sunk. if it is, you ship it back to dell and wait 6-8 weeks.
Dell onsite techs, at least in my area, do not install software after replacing a hard drive. it simply isn't allowed.
aww. loads of people getting scammed in a vast marketplace built on the free flow of ideas and information? schock.
who, WHO, i ask, would've thought that the unscrupulous, the poor, the criminal and the stupid would ALL be attracted to such a wondrous place?
well, suck it up. enjoy. find your own goodamn way to fix the problem, or shut up.
"wah! i got ripped off in the market becuase i was greedy/stupid/inexperienced!wah!"
"we, the officially vested, suited, trousered and mackinawed authorities, feel frustrated that we can't finger every crook in the market square. we suggest high walls, gates, and tattooing every buyer, seller and gapejawed passerby. it's only right."
"well, we collect the rent on all the stalls in the square. and, we just bought the bank you keep your money in. but, hell, do whatever you want. we don't give a rat's ass; we're rich! HAH!
jeezus, talk about buyer's remorse, you pansies. and i don't mean Ebay I mean the internet.
by the by, in the better part of a decade, i've NEVER been ripped off on ebay. and neither have the GREAT MAJORITY of its users. and, inevitably, when i do, will i go running to mommy? no, i'll take it as an object lesson; hunt the fucker down if i can, and consider the erudition well worth the price if i can't.
that your mature, fast chip that people have been designing for for the better part of a decade combined with spanking new memory and hardware works well!
my god, it boggles the mind!
carl
not like that's stopping me from representin with a wack AMD64 chip and gear that makes the inside of my tower a good substitute for a microwave oven(tea, anyone?))
we have perrenial failures of concentration and wierd areas of application. don't glorify it, pigeonhole it, paint over it with fancy jargon.
there are loads of viciously smart, able and productive people that do not suffer from being odd- we call them, "successful and happy".
happily, the elation of some mad chemical misfire makes feel that we have touched the face of god and we are thus happy to be sub-standard, crippled socially and doomed to mediocrity in life and glory in dreams. huzzah. but lets not call it fucking "special".
arrghthpppt
GGB is simply horrific to use. previously, navigating to my preferred groups took a few clicks from the start page, and everything was linked in tree, enabling instant navigation from group to subgroup and hierarchy to hierarchy.
one-click results for a posting address has vansihed, possibly the most useful link feature out there. subjects and authors are now buried in a morass of irrelevant garbage and uneccessary previews of postings, along with infuriatingly byzantine "options" that I need to navigate in order to make GGB look like GGold, without the latter's functrionality, clarity or logic.
i understand that Google is eager to roll out the group creation thing, but for the love of Mike, do it without ruining a superb interface and archive. find the dudes that made that original gem, lay flowers at their feet, and demote the "team" that came up with this ferocious horrora
please.
carl
pigcops will be so much scarier with this nifty new tech- i bet they'll be %1110 awesomer than before!!!
I bet when DNF comes out, I'll buy even more frankly redundant hardware and crank real money into a pathetic gameworld experience! maybe, if i'm reaallly smart, I'l have zippy headphones to augment my savagely antisocial lifestyle choice...
wait - DNF is coming out, right?
Slashdot Mirror
the appropriate "tags" for this article, in my opinion, would be "slashvertising", and "blog", indicating the reasonable suspicions one should have well in hand to approach a posting like this.
is that the point, or is tagging for something else?
So, with all due respect, how big a security risk is it?
what's wrong with rightclick>properties>compatibility>run this program in compatibility mode?
worked in Opera, nyeah.
that sounds like best practice to me; far cry from "out of the box" :)
I certainly prefer to have at a client's firewall before letting them run amok.
possibly a sop to the umpteen "legimate" spyware/updateware that so many software companies use these days? Microsoft threw up its hands in the teeth of angry antivirus, mediaplayer, IM and financial software companies and said, "I care not- thee du hast all myne boxen, alas!" sure makes it easier for HP to update their 4 gigabyte software installs with up to the minute printer drivers.
preconfigured by who? you? that's a little different.
most light duty firewalls have loads of preconfigured services(for gaming and such) if that's what you mean, but they're not turned on by default. 90% of the time, it's inbound=no, outbound=yes
crippled? how about "industry standard for home and light commercial use"?
what's wrong with INBOUND:BLOCK ALL - OUTBOUND:ALLOW ALL?
every NAT/router/firewall/shiny magic internet thing i;ve seen, oh, in the last 7 eons of mankind's glorious history is set up just so.
we like to say that you need to drop at least $35,000 before Dell treats you like a valued customer.
Also, their "business class" machines are a cut above their consumer models- no business would put up with the utter junk they pawn off on consumers.
I estimate %75 of our business is Dells. trhey sell something like %18 of the retail market, so there you are...bad mobos, PSUs, fans, etc.
So it's a different enviroment with different expectations, but that does not fill me with hope. I warn regular home buyers off Dell any chance i get.
Its a little sad, really, i remember 5 years ago or so, Dells really were decent, reliable PCs and notebooks that had decent service. no longer.
Proprietary is not a funny word, it is a very unpleasant one to have to hear several times a day.
Many, many parts in the great majority of Dell PCs are proprietary, starting with *the motherboard* and PSUs, FP connectors, etc. the meaning of proprietary is very, very simple. if a part breaks, which they frequently do in Dells, and Dell does not sell it, which they frequently do NOT, you are, as our friends in the shady isles put it, boned.
nothing to do with VGA adapters, everything to do with locking down the consumer. Dell sucks rotten ass on this issue; they are the worst maker out there in this regard, not least because they such god-awful cheap, crappy parts in their PCs.
You cleverly leave out the part where the reasons stated by Britannica for not accepting a particular criticism were *correct*.
They are perfectly right to pick nits with these "errors" and have managed to make a fine defense of themselves.
the criticisms of omission, misattribution and missing context are startling on a number of levels; somebody should lose their job for pulling that kind of bullshit.
the criticisms vis weight of errors is also valid, and this was pointed out and generally agreed upon in the original hoopla about this "study", which more rightly should have been called a scholarly reveiw.
this is a HUGE black eye for Nature.
in the TOS, more or less.
who is starled that this was a bad idea?
When the first, as you correctly assumed, Pentium M chips hit the market, there were not compatible desktop boards-that came later. PMs came in OEM notebooks and were, I feel, a stealth way of Intel apologizing for ditching the veddy nice PIII architecture. but they certainly didn't come ready to go for Sock370 or 462 or anything.
consumer/builder options for the chip were non-existant, so I kind of crossed it of my list, you know? there is a socket converter that allows you you to hack a P M to some socket or other, but jinkies, that seems like a bandaid, compared to streamlining some chip you've got to the point where its a new beast, casting it in a pin format that already exists and saying, 'have fun, see you on sunday'
its worth it- i dashed that off and lay in fear of Latin grammarians.
i was thinking 'ad rei publicae +witty noun' i guess, but that that didn't make sense unless there's an unstated object of the dative that could be assumed- "the (minds of) the geek poplutions
ad rei publicae mentis geeki? ahh, screw it.
how about, 'ad publica geeki' and call it a day.:)
That's a good question- unless that Compaq board was designed by a far-thinking engineer, it probably won't support the CPU automatically. if it diod, our you can find a BIOS update, then I'd expect you'd cut your CPU chip power consumption in half and heat transfer energy costs correspondingly. that's a $250 experiment, though, and getting it out of the notebook might be a challenge- the heatsink is integral to the case/motherboard and often glued on to the core. disassemble methodically and carefully.
I love the idea of low power, high-concept CPUs on desktop machines.
m l
I love the fact that these chips are 754 pin and thus compatible with an existing socket- motherboard manufacturers won't have to ramp up any new hardware to start selling boards for these in every color of the rainbow.
Turion Shuttles/insert small FF MB here/, anyone?
and there are loads of legacy boards available. Socket 754 boards are dirt cheap. here's a handy list of compatibles from the article:
http://angelfall.s39.xrea.com/area2ch/turion-e.ht
I would have jumped all over the P M, except there was no desktop gear for it; unless I bought a notebook PC and did some expensive hacking, which, ad publicae geekio, is a contradiction in terms.
score +one for AMD.
This is not a rumour. a little digging on Gogle News on relatively obscure or narrow-interest news stories will reliably turn up fake news stories, press releases, obviously astroturfed blog entries and etc.
& q=pocket+knives+china
its always been a problem; here's an example
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&ie=UTF-8
Google News. like Google search , is useful only in two ways- superficial examination of topics relevant to others and watching the attempts of interested parties to gain influnce.
real research and real news gathering need the services that truly provide valuable data aggregation, like Lexis and Pubmed, OED, etc. You gets what your pay for.
God! you filthy beast! keep talking like that and i might just have a hot-tectonic event all over you!
oooh, I think its the Big One!
oh. oh, wait- you said SUBduction....
believe me, I'm familiar with the process:).
that still leaves me with questions regarding the post to which i responded. was he lying, operating on some level of Dell onsite support heretofor unknown or just2, like, pretending to by a Dell tech for the glory of it???
I have some problems with this comment.
Dell no longer sells or ships OEM software. I have had several unpleasant experiences regading this recently. you can make a set of backup CDs, but it you don't and your system is past warranty, you are sunk. if it is, you ship it back to dell and wait 6-8 weeks.
Dell onsite techs, at least in my area, do not install software after replacing a hard drive. it simply isn't allowed.
so what gives?
aww. loads of people getting scammed in a vast marketplace built on the free flow of ideas and information? schock. who, WHO, i ask, would've thought that the unscrupulous, the poor, the criminal and the stupid would ALL be attracted to such a wondrous place? well, suck it up. enjoy. find your own goodamn way to fix the problem, or shut up. "wah! i got ripped off in the market becuase i was greedy/stupid/inexperienced!wah!" "we, the officially vested, suited, trousered and mackinawed authorities, feel frustrated that we can't finger every crook in the market square. we suggest high walls, gates, and tattooing every buyer, seller and gapejawed passerby. it's only right." "well, we collect the rent on all the stalls in the square. and, we just bought the bank you keep your money in. but, hell, do whatever you want. we don't give a rat's ass; we're rich! HAH! jeezus, talk about buyer's remorse, you pansies. and i don't mean Ebay I mean the internet. by the by, in the better part of a decade, i've NEVER been ripped off on ebay. and neither have the GREAT MAJORITY of its users. and, inevitably, when i do, will i go running to mommy? no, i'll take it as an object lesson; hunt the fucker down if i can, and consider the erudition well worth the price if i can't.
that your mature, fast chip that people have been designing for for the better part of a decade combined with spanking new memory and hardware works well! my god, it boggles the mind! carl not like that's stopping me from representin with a wack AMD64 chip and gear that makes the inside of my tower a good substitute for a microwave oven(tea, anyone?))
it's a big load of cock.
we have perrenial failures of concentration and wierd areas of application. don't glorify it, pigeonhole it, paint over it with fancy jargon.
there are loads of viciously smart, able and productive people that do not suffer from being odd- we call them, "successful and happy".
happily, the elation of some mad chemical misfire makes feel that we have touched the face of god and we are thus happy to be sub-standard, crippled socially and doomed to mediocrity in life and glory in dreams. huzzah. but lets not call it fucking "special". arrghthpppt
GGB is simply horrific to use. previously, navigating to my preferred groups took a few clicks from the start page, and everything was linked in tree, enabling instant navigation from group to subgroup and hierarchy to hierarchy. one-click results for a posting address has vansihed, possibly the most useful link feature out there. subjects and authors are now buried in a morass of irrelevant garbage and uneccessary previews of postings, along with infuriatingly byzantine "options" that I need to navigate in order to make GGB look like GGold, without the latter's functrionality, clarity or logic. i understand that Google is eager to roll out the group creation thing, but for the love of Mike, do it without ruining a superb interface and archive. find the dudes that made that original gem, lay flowers at their feet, and demote the "team" that came up with this ferocious horrora please. carl
pigcops will be so much scarier with this nifty new tech- i bet they'll be %1110 awesomer than before!!! I bet when DNF comes out, I'll buy even more frankly redundant hardware and crank real money into a pathetic gameworld experience! maybe, if i'm reaallly smart, I'l have zippy headphones to augment my savagely antisocial lifestyle choice... wait - DNF is coming out, right?