Actually, if you're going to invest in anything solely because of this news (not recommended), repair service business is it. Old-school non-DRM equipment will become gold if a doomsday scenarios plays out.
I'm not sure if it's that way in Canada, but there was that one government minister who was forced to resign after calling President Bush a moron. Maybe just a coincidence.
He never was forced to resign. I'm not even sure he resigned at all, but he was forced to say something about GWB being a friend of his and that he is not a moron(1).
Even an install shield type thing isn't necessary. People will just need to learn to read release notes and readmes.
One thing you will never see on any Linux installer or program packaging system is a ditty to put an icon on your desktop or program menu. I've tried just about every distro and packaging program out there, and not once have I seen an icon show up. That was one thing I always had problems with when I was new to Linux - installing a program and then never being able to run it cause I couldn't find it anywhere. Most readmes and release notes tell you how to install it, but you really have to dig to find out the info (if any) on where it went.
This is so easily fixed it is mindboggling that it hasn't shown up somewhere!
Yeah, I'm running at 1600x1200. I always thought those images were too small;)
And, from a marketing standpoint, taking screenshots with XP just makes sense, because that is the most commonly used OS right now.
AND, this guy would be bitching if he's using GNOME, and they took a screen shot in KDE. AND this guy would be bitching if they took the screen shot in KDE with Keramik, and he's using KDE with Plastik. "Standard Linux Desktop Look" aren't words you find together very often.
If your particular distribution doesn't include solitaire to your liking, load up a XUL-capable browser (aka Mozilla, Firefox, etc.), and go to games.mozdev.org, scroll down to "Cards", and click play online. It will come up defaulting to "simple solitaire", which looks and plays very much like its Windows counterpart. I am addicted to Xulmine, myself.
But I don't see where such concepts such as "right" and "wrong" can come from in a pure atheistic mentality.
The reasons are the same regardless of religous views or lack thereof. Human nature is subjective, and so is "good" and "bad". Religeon is an attempt to objectify these subjective age-old concepts.
Well, there is an advantage to buying shoddy hardware...you have a very good excuse to replace it after it breaks!:D Its an easier decision to buy a new computer as a necessity rather than as a toy.
I only buy cheap crap, so I can buy new cheap crap later sooner. It only makes sense, you see;)
Err, I read over and maybe I need to clarify - the blue screen is what you will see with IE 4+. However, there's no fathomable reason for it to be there unless IE contains Netscape code.
Hundreds if not thousands of GB of binary data on the net would become useless, as they would have to recompile every package to the new format.
Meanwhile, you keep your 2.6.7 kernel and your ELF binaries around till everything gets changed over, and then switch. This kind of thing doesn't need to happen overnight.
Of course, it's easy for them to point their fingers at open source contributors, but it's harder to track down stolen code in closed source software.
Yep, although there are telltale signs left behind sometimes. For example, open Internet Explorer (ver 4 or better), and type about:mozilla in the address bar.
It causes damage. Much in the way leeches cause damage to fileshares, and web n00bs cause damage with non-compatable web design.
Relative ease of use attracts careless n00bs, who after getting comfortable cannot be convinced to do things correctly, do not the ideals in their heads in a way that would drive them to use the system correctly, and will never make any effort to inform themselves.
I'm pretty sure the subconscious ideal is that people will "come" to Linux, work their knowledge up of the system to do a sucessful install - in other words, they won't take the system for granted, and be much more likely to contribute to "the cause". Personally, having exposure to the internals having used Slackware and using Gentoo has driven me to contribute a little here and there, where I wouldn't have normally.
Another subconscious irk is that an easy install method is like cheats. If you are playing a challenging game, and you have a cheat sheet laying by you, you WILL use it sooner or later. Either way, it takes some satisfaction away since even if you did pull through without the cheats, they were always there for you, and so it seems like you haven't accomplished anything.
I suppose yet another way to look at it is comparing it to Freedom in general. You really can't appreciate any particular Freedom that you have unless you have fought for it.
It's a valid complaint, nearly everyone with an open mind who's tried to get a non-techy friend to change has encountered this.
I've switched over many, and I don't see a general disgust with the UI. Heck, Internet Explorer's UI is completely disgusting save for XP version (monochrome toolbar icons - yuck). What I run into is people would rather use what they have been using. That is till the next time they get hit with spyware.:D
You can also use the IE theme, and some chrome tweaks to make it look almost exactly like IE.
Basically, this is an old problem, and Phoenix/Firebird/Firefox is the response - you can make it look however you want with themes/extensions/chrome tweaks. For basic starters, try right clicking on the background of a toolbar and clicking "Customize..."
Anyway, I think you're gonna have to do better than "this sucks" if you really don't want to be considered a troll.;)
The reason Win vs Mac IE renders different is because they use completely different rendering engines. AFAICT, MacIE's Tazman engine acts more like Mozilla than Win IE.
There are Firefox builds out there for Win98+, Linux, Mac OSX, Solaris, JDS, SunOS, OS/2, BSD, BeOS, QNX, and others I'm sure. (porting is underway for AmigaOS, MorphOS, AROS) It's pretty much a guarantee these all render identically, these all use the same Gecko layout engine.
The default UI for the regular Mozilla browser suite has was frozen long ago, so it still looks like Netcape 4. Have you given Firefox a shot at least? Themes for both Mozilla suite and Firefox?
Sure, your argument was valid 3 years ago, but not today.
They frequently stuggle with Microsoft office formats.
Heh, last week I was trying to help a co-worker open a MS Word document that got malformed somehow, and it crashed whenever you ran your mouse over the affected broken table. After a variety of methods, including using the repair document feature (which crashed Word), finally got it so that it would stay open long enough to delete that crappy table - twiddled around with the bits with the hex editor in my XTreeGold clone...Ah yes, fond memories of hacking RPG savegames for that 65535 gold.:) Anyway, that was user friendly as hell, I'm tellin ya.
<script>
if ( navigator.appName == "Microsoft Internet Explorer" )
{
if (confirm ("The United States Department of Homeland Security\'s Computer Emergency Rediness Team strongly recommends you use a different browser for security reasons.\n\n Would you like a list of alternatives?"))
{
document.location = "browsers.htm";
}
}
</script>
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Actually, if you're going to invest in anything solely because of this news (not recommended), repair service business is it. Old-school non-DRM equipment will become gold if a doomsday scenarios plays out.
Hah, Robinson Crusoe, by Daniel Defoe (link goes to an ebook) comes to mind...
He never was forced to resign. I'm not even sure he resigned at all, but he was forced to say something about GWB being a friend of his and that he is not a moron(1).
Try the "Nuke Anything" extension for Firefox (under category "Page Display", page 2). If crappy rendering covers up content, Just Nuke It.
Even an install shield type thing isn't necessary. People will just need to learn to read release notes and readmes.
One thing you will never see on any Linux installer or program packaging system is a ditty to put an icon on your desktop or program menu. I've tried just about every distro and packaging program out there, and not once have I seen an icon show up. That was one thing I always had problems with when I was new to Linux - installing a program and then never being able to run it cause I couldn't find it anywhere. Most readmes and release notes tell you how to install it, but you really have to dig to find out the info (if any) on where it went.
This is so easily fixed it is mindboggling that it hasn't shown up somewhere!
Yeah, I'm running at 1600x1200. I always thought those images were too small ;)
And, from a marketing standpoint, taking screenshots with XP just makes sense, because that is the most commonly used OS right now.
AND, this guy would be bitching if he's using GNOME, and they took a screen shot in KDE. AND this guy would be bitching if they took the screen shot in KDE with Keramik, and he's using KDE with Plastik. "Standard Linux Desktop Look" aren't words you find together very often.
I suppose...after properly adjusting your tinfoil ski mask, of course ;)
Gentoo doesn't have an ebuild yet for 0.9.3.
oops, it defaults to "klondike solitaire", actually.
If your particular distribution doesn't include solitaire to your liking, load up a XUL-capable browser (aka Mozilla, Firefox, etc.), and go to games.mozdev.org, scroll down to "Cards", and click play online. It will come up defaulting to "simple solitaire", which looks and plays very much like its Windows counterpart. I am addicted to Xulmine, myself.
Is X.org going to use the MIT/X license, or are they going to move to GPL?
But I don't see where such concepts such as "right" and "wrong" can come from in a pure atheistic mentality.
The reasons are the same regardless of religous views or lack thereof. Human nature is subjective, and so is "good" and "bad". Religeon is an attempt to objectify these subjective age-old concepts.
Well, there is an advantage to buying shoddy hardware...you have a very good excuse to replace it after it breaks! :D Its an easier decision to buy a new computer as a necessity rather than as a toy.
;)
I only buy cheap crap, so I can buy new cheap crap later sooner. It only makes sense, you see
have you tried?
Err, I read over and maybe I need to clarify - the blue screen is what you will see with IE 4+. However, there's no fathomable reason for it to be there unless IE contains Netscape code.
Yep, that's not supposed to happen. :D Type any other random about:whatever and you don't get that.
Hundreds if not thousands of GB of binary data on the net would become useless, as they would have to recompile every package to the new format.
Meanwhile, you keep your 2.6.7 kernel and your ELF binaries around till everything gets changed over, and then switch. This kind of thing doesn't need to happen overnight.
Of course, it's easy for them to point their fingers at open source contributors, but it's harder to track down stolen code in closed source software.
Yep, although there are telltale signs left behind sometimes. For example, open Internet Explorer (ver 4 or better), and type about:mozilla in the address bar.
It causes damage. Much in the way leeches cause damage to fileshares, and web n00bs cause damage with non-compatable web design.
Relative ease of use attracts careless n00bs, who after getting comfortable cannot be convinced to do things correctly, do not the ideals in their heads in a way that would drive them to use the system correctly, and will never make any effort to inform themselves.
I'm pretty sure the subconscious ideal is that people will "come" to Linux, work their knowledge up of the system to do a sucessful install - in other words, they won't take the system for granted, and be much more likely to contribute to "the cause". Personally, having exposure to the internals having used Slackware and using Gentoo has driven me to contribute a little here and there, where I wouldn't have normally.
Another subconscious irk is that an easy install method is like cheats. If you are playing a challenging game, and you have a cheat sheet laying by you, you WILL use it sooner or later. Either way, it takes some satisfaction away since even if you did pull through without the cheats, they were always there for you, and so it seems like you haven't accomplished anything.
I suppose yet another way to look at it is comparing it to Freedom in general. You really can't appreciate any particular Freedom that you have unless you have fought for it.
It's a valid complaint, nearly everyone with an open mind who's tried to get a non-techy friend to change has encountered this.
:D
;)
I've switched over many, and I don't see a general disgust with the UI. Heck, Internet Explorer's UI is completely disgusting save for XP version (monochrome toolbar icons - yuck). What I run into is people would rather use what they have been using. That is till the next time they get hit with spyware.
You can also use the IE theme, and some chrome tweaks to make it look almost exactly like IE.
Basically, this is an old problem, and Phoenix/Firebird/Firefox is the response - you can make it look however you want with themes/extensions/chrome tweaks. For basic starters, try right clicking on the background of a toolbar and clicking "Customize..."
Anyway, I think you're gonna have to do better than "this sucks" if you really don't want to be considered a troll.
The reason Win vs Mac IE renders different is because they use completely different rendering engines. AFAICT, MacIE's Tazman engine acts more like Mozilla than Win IE.
There are Firefox builds out there for Win98+, Linux, Mac OSX, Solaris, JDS, SunOS, OS/2, BSD, BeOS, QNX, and others I'm sure. (porting is underway for AmigaOS, MorphOS, AROS) It's pretty much a guarantee these all render identically, these all use the same Gecko layout engine.
The default UI for the regular Mozilla browser suite has was frozen long ago, so it still looks like Netcape 4. Have you given Firefox a shot at least? Themes for both Mozilla suite and Firefox?
Sure, your argument was valid 3 years ago, but not today.
They frequently stuggle with Microsoft office formats.
:) Anyway, that was user friendly as hell, I'm tellin ya.
Heh, last week I was trying to help a co-worker open a MS Word document that got malformed somehow, and it crashed whenever you ran your mouse over the affected broken table. After a variety of methods, including using the repair document feature (which crashed Word), finally got it so that it would stay open long enough to delete that crappy table - twiddled around with the bits with the hex editor in my XTreeGold clone...Ah yes, fond memories of hacking RPG savegames for that 65535 gold.
Installing X is already covered in the guide. Slackware was my first distro, I don't remember having any trouble getting X to run :D
A nice little reminder script for Exploder users
<script>
if ( navigator.appName == "Microsoft Internet Explorer" )
{
if (confirm ("The United States Department of Homeland Security\'s Computer Emergency Rediness Team strongly recommends you use a different browser for security reasons.\n\n Would you like a list of alternatives?"))
{
document.location = "browsers.htm";
}
}
</script>