No, they're hackers, too. See also DefCon, 2600, Phrack, and history itself. Only Slashdotians/ESR fanboys use the term "cracker" to describe a type of "hacker".
Don't be an idiot and "correct" someone when you're wrong.
I'm sorry but one of my comments shoved under a headlining story about it ain't gonna make a difference anymore. Cat's out of the bag, anonymous dickwad.
The one thing I really like about Steve Jobs... well there are lots of things. The thing I like most about Steve Jobs is that he's unusually candid in email. I have written him a few times in the past from everything about OS X to vegan recipes and he's replied, often with expressed interest and candidness. This is something not to be abused. When this kind of stuff is publicized, I worry about two things:
1. Steve gets inundated with tons of dumb emails just to get a "response from steve" to hang on the wall. End effect is that Steve stops reading his email.
2. Steve stops being so personable because he figures anything he says will end up splattered all over the web. Within a few days, this simple "Dear Steve, I don't like Objective-C" thing will be blown out of proportion by cnet, dvorak, and other journalists who are entirely too clueless, et al. Remember, what Steve says could affect stock prices, etc. And Steve will just sigh and stop responding.
It's really, really nice having a CEO that doesn't just communicate through press releases, folks. Don't ruin it. It was my hope that those few who knew Steve responded to his email would keep it on the down low.
I code various C#/.NET things at work, and code Cocoa stuff at home for fun. I'm well-versed in both environments.
- The environments are apples and oranges (no pun intended). The languages, the workflow, everything is much different.
- Moving away from ObjC would require some significant reworkings of Cocoa, as its workflow is based on the "ObjC way". Take a look at the mess that is the Cocoa/Java bridge, or Cocoa#.
- Objective C is WAY more descriptive than other languages (take a look at how you pass arguments in functions, for example).
- Objective C is easy to learn. Yeah, it's a lot different than the usual paradigms, but when you learn it, you'll enjoy its simplicity.
Things I hate about Cocoa:
- It's not managed code. Why should application developers in this day and age have to worry about memory management? (autorelease doesnt count)
- Having to keep two different programming paradigms in my head. I never even learned C#, I learned Java and jumped right into C#, because they were so similar.
- Practically no one else in the world uses Objective C, so it's not a very valuable (salary-wise) skill to have.
- The X-Code/Interface Builder dance is quite clunky. It was cool back in the day, but Microsoft has a much better system developed.
1. GNU Classpath has nothing to do with runtimes, it's a GNU replacement for the standard Java libraries.
2. You must not keep up with Mono development, which admittedly is sometimes going a bit too fast to keep track of. In any case Mono is essentially feature-complete at this point, while Classpath still has a ways to go. It's not used by many (any?) serious development outfits.
C# was invented for one reason: locking sytems into a windows deployment.
How does this shit get moderated up? The poster is clueless. If C# was invented for that one reason, why did MS release Rotor for FreeBSD? Why did it bother to get C# implemented as an ECMA standard? Why does it help, instead of try and crush Mono? Why does the API include Oracle functionality?
In contrast, Java is currently a closed platform with Sun's fingers firmly around its neck.
This article is a total troll and I wish the Slashdot editors would do their jobs. Also, while I code in Java, I am not a particular fan of it. Regardless, I hardly see any mass adoption of python or "ruby on rails". It's still at best, fringe. Ask any IT managers (who's opinions matter when it comes to mass adoptions) if they've even heard of Ruby or Python, and see what kind of answers you'll get.
IE for Mac has been dead since June 2003. It was even in the version release info that it'd be the last and people should migrate to Safari. What this is saying is that support will end and IE for Mac will be removed from the website shortly.
Also, this has nothing to do with the Intel transition as many people have commented. This was a done deal way before that ever came up.
How about the torture of having to suck in your chest and clench your abs so long to meet society's standards of what an attractive male stomach should look like.
They deserve this, their foundation has dumped TONS of money into our local schools, including significant funding for an Apple 1-to-1 initiative, and the funding for an entire school site for the next few years. No BS "you must use Windows computers" crap, not even a mention of it.
Bill Gates may be "Satan" and a monopolist, but he's also a genuinely giving, good man. Say what you will, he's bettering the world exponentially more than you or I ever will.
1. It's '1337', not '3117'. 2. It's 'TPM', not 'TMP'.
Don't want you going around getting ridiculed.
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No, network professionals are (or should be) familiar with W. Richard Stevens' "TCP/IP Illustrated" and "UNIX Network Programming" books and Cisco's "Routing TCP/IP" book.
I'd rather pirate music from any RIAA label than pay for it. Not that I do pirate their music, since they're trying to push utter shite onto us and calling it music.
I use GNOME on Ubuntu, but I just recently installed KDE (apt-get install kbuntu-desktop) and I must say, while KDE still suffers from ugly icons and themes, it's quite robust, more snappy (on my machine, anyway), and feels more finished than GNOME.
I hadn't used KDE in a number of years, but was quite surprised.
Largely, I think it boils down to - 'because they don't understand the technology as we do'.
Oh that's just egotistical rubbish! People like turnkey solutions mainly for two reasons:
1.) They're novices and they just want something that works 2.) They're not novices, but they're overloaded with work and they don't want to learn the complete ins and outs of yet another massive, complex software package (note I said package, not the protocols it uses, etc).
This seems to be a great redirection tactic from OO.org's open format announcement that was reported a few weeks ago. Now all we hear about is Microsoft's open format. And we're caring why? Why don't we focus on a format that is truly free and open and keep it out of the hands of an organization designed to profit?
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Wouldnt another problem be the 320x200 (or whatever) resolution of the movies? 320 x 200 at 105" would look like crap.
No, they're hackers, too. See also DefCon, 2600, Phrack, and history itself. Only Slashdotians/ESR fanboys use the term "cracker" to describe a type of "hacker".
Don't be an idiot and "correct" someone when you're wrong.
You're a dumbfuck.
I hope so. After the initial learning curve, I really love Objective-C and almost prefer most aspects of it to that of Java/C#/C++/etc
I'm sorry but one of my comments shoved under a headlining story about it ain't gonna make a difference anymore. Cat's out of the bag, anonymous dickwad.
Specifically, iTunes is a Carbon app, and it wasn't written from scratch; it began life as "Jam" and was bought by Apple.
The one thing I really like about Steve Jobs... well there are lots of things. The thing I like most about Steve Jobs is that he's unusually candid in email. I have written him a few times in the past from everything about OS X to vegan recipes and he's replied, often with expressed interest and candidness. This is something not to be abused. When this kind of stuff is publicized, I worry about two things:
1. Steve gets inundated with tons of dumb emails just to get a "response from steve" to hang on the wall. End effect is that Steve stops reading his email.
2. Steve stops being so personable because he figures anything he says will end up splattered all over the web. Within a few days, this simple "Dear Steve, I don't like Objective-C" thing will be blown out of proportion by cnet, dvorak, and other journalists who are entirely too clueless, et al. Remember, what Steve says could affect stock prices, etc. And Steve will just sigh and stop responding.
It's really, really nice having a CEO that doesn't just communicate through press releases, folks. Don't ruin it. It was my hope that those few who knew Steve responded to his email would keep it on the down low.
I code various C#/.NET things at work, and code Cocoa stuff at home for fun. I'm well-versed in both environments.
- The environments are apples and oranges (no pun intended). The languages, the workflow, everything is much different.
- Moving away from ObjC would require some significant reworkings of Cocoa, as its workflow is based on the "ObjC way". Take a look at the mess that is the Cocoa/Java bridge, or Cocoa#.
- Objective C is WAY more descriptive than other languages (take a look at how you pass arguments in functions, for example).
- Objective C is easy to learn. Yeah, it's a lot different than the usual paradigms, but when you learn it, you'll enjoy its simplicity.
Things I hate about Cocoa:
- It's not managed code. Why should application developers in this day and age have to worry about memory management? (autorelease doesnt count)
- Having to keep two different programming paradigms in my head. I never even learned C#, I learned Java and jumped right into C#, because they were so similar.
- Practically no one else in the world uses Objective C, so it's not a very valuable (salary-wise) skill to have.
- The X-Code/Interface Builder dance is quite clunky. It was cool back in the day, but Microsoft has a much better system developed.
- VS.NET 2005 > Xcode
IMHO it is second to none when it come to managing your music collection.
You're entitled to your opinions, but it just seemed like a poorly-done clone of iTunes to me, except buggier.
AND runs natively in Linux.
Excellent! That'll benefit the many billions of Linux users out there, ready with cash in hand.
1. GNU Classpath has nothing to do with runtimes, it's a GNU replacement for the standard Java libraries.
2. You must not keep up with Mono development, which admittedly is sometimes going a bit too fast to keep track of. In any case Mono is essentially feature-complete at this point, while Classpath still has a ways to go. It's not used by many (any?) serious development outfits.
C# was invented for one reason: locking sytems into a windows deployment.
How does this shit get moderated up? The poster is clueless. If C# was invented for that one reason, why did MS release Rotor for FreeBSD? Why did it bother to get C# implemented as an ECMA standard? Why does it help, instead of try and crush Mono? Why does the API include Oracle functionality?
In contrast, Java is currently a closed platform with Sun's fingers firmly around its neck.
This article is a total troll and I wish the Slashdot editors would do their jobs. Also, while I code in Java, I am not a particular fan of it. Regardless, I hardly see any mass adoption of python or "ruby on rails". It's still at best, fringe. Ask any IT managers (who's opinions matter when it comes to mass adoptions) if they've even heard of Ruby or Python, and see what kind of answers you'll get.
IE for Mac has been dead since June 2003. It was even in the version release info that it'd be the last and people should migrate to Safari. What this is saying is that support will end and IE for Mac will be removed from the website shortly.
Also, this has nothing to do with the Intel transition as many people have commented. This was a done deal way before that ever came up.
How about the torture of having to suck in your chest and clench your abs so long to meet society's standards of what an attractive male stomach should look like.
They deserve this, their foundation has dumped TONS of money into our local schools, including significant funding for an Apple 1-to-1 initiative, and the funding for an entire school site for the next few years. No BS "you must use Windows computers" crap, not even a mention of it.
Bill Gates may be "Satan" and a monopolist, but he's also a genuinely giving, good man. Say what you will, he's bettering the world exponentially more than you or I ever will.
The question isn't whether this is lawful. Unconstitutional laws are passed behind our backs all the time.
The REAL question is: are these laws constitutional?
Imagine items on grocer's shelves that flash commercials at you as you walk by.
Why would I want to imagine that? I'm already bombarded by ridiculous, intrusive advertisements left and right. No thanks, keep the e-paper.
1. It's '1337', not '3117'.
2. It's 'TPM', not 'TMP'.
Don't want you going around getting ridiculed.
No, network professionals are (or should be) familiar with W. Richard Stevens' "TCP/IP Illustrated" and "UNIX Network Programming" books and Cisco's "Routing TCP/IP" book.
I'd rather pirate music from any RIAA label than pay for it. Not that I do pirate their music, since they're trying to push utter shite onto us and calling it music.
I use GNOME on Ubuntu, but I just recently installed KDE (apt-get install kbuntu-desktop) and I must say, while KDE still suffers from ugly icons and themes, it's quite robust, more snappy (on my machine, anyway), and feels more finished than GNOME.
I hadn't used KDE in a number of years, but was quite surprised.
Right, because we could never surmise that the average Slashdot commenter is a geek, likes sci-fi, likes linux, loves natalie portman, and so on.
And the feature was annoying and cluttery. Something like the standard Outlook Express/Thunderbird setup, but with tags, is perfect.
Largely, I think it boils down to - 'because they don't understand the technology as we do'.
Oh that's just egotistical rubbish! People like turnkey solutions mainly for two reasons:
1.) They're novices and they just want something that works
2.) They're not novices, but they're overloaded with work and they don't want to learn the complete ins and outs of yet another massive, complex software package (note I said package, not the protocols it uses, etc).
This seems to be a great redirection tactic from OO.org's open format announcement that was reported a few weeks ago. Now all we hear about is Microsoft's open format. And we're caring why? Why don't we focus on a format that is truly free and open and keep it out of the hands of an organization designed to profit?