Based on every single attempt at DRM to date, I'd say that's a fair assumption.
Where would you buy a cracked one?
Assuming most electronic stores don't sell them by default (most places originally sold DVDs cracked to get around the region-coding limitations), there are plenty of places that are around that you can get such things cracked. I have friends that use to go to the local computer store and buy copied playstation games after getting the store to crack their playstation (if they didn't get someone else they knew to do it first). He was eventually busted, but someone nearby filled in the demand fairly quickly.
It will take time, but assuming laws start requiring consumer electronics to respect watermarks, eventually we'll be in a state where we can't find/buy old hardware to make an analog copy.
As I said, if it can reach my eyes, it can be copied. All I have to do is set up a camera and record it from the tv. Will it be perfect quality? Hell no. But then again existing pirated copies that are easily accessible aren't perfect either. And I'm sure the hardware will be crackable via plenty of other methods as well. There's more then one way to crack a DRM.
With public key encryption and the ability to revoke keys, any time something is cracked, those keys can be revoked and the player rendered useless. One or two films might be copied, but the mass piracy you see these days would slow to a trickle.
Wrong. I'd just use DRM-DVD to play my legitimate DVD's, and my Non-DRM-DVD to play my illegal copies. Or if all DVD's become DRM'd, I can buy a cracked one, that won't phone home and will let me play copied DVDs.
As long as I can see the content, there is no way to make a DRM system that won't be gotten around, in the foreseeable future (for all those geeks that want to say "what about if the content is lasered onto your eyes?").
If the model was way off, the prediction would be crazy nonsense.
I'd say many predictions are crazy nonsense. Here's a prediction on tomorrow's weather: It's going to rain.
I'm correct aren't I? I just didn't say where. Okay, a less smart ass reply: It's going to rain in Sydney. Am I right? Am I wrong? Who knows. If I'm right, I can say I've got a predictable model, if I'm wrong, I can say "hey, I'm not always wrong." I'm sure the model they use is better then mine, but it's easy to create a model that doesn't provide "crazy nonsense" but still not correspond to real life in any meaningful manner.
The simulation is an amazing tool to teach current scientific theories. It's a testament to the programming abilities of the creators. What it isn't, is evidence that Dark Matter exists. I've heard of simulations on how the eye has evolved over time and into existance. It's a great teaching tool, but it isn't evidence that evolution is correct (as many people claim it is. Were these people scientists, no. They were slashdotters. But this post is directed at slashdotters and not scientists).
Before I get modded down as a bible thumper, I believe in evolution, but only because I haven't heard of a better explanation. I don't know enough about dark matter to say whether I believe it is a correct theory.
I've heard the theory that time didn't exist until the Big Bang, so therefore there was no split nanosecond before the Big Bang;)
It sounds a lot like Creationist theories on the whole seven day deal.
It's really easy not to believe in anything, as it makes fighting for what you believe in so much easier. The system (society) is far more fucked if you go around supporting abusive organisations because their unnecessary product is best, than if you make sacrifices and help to make society a better place.
Isn't the fact that workers in third world countries can do your job for cheaper than you enough to make you think that you're asking too much for your labor?
The cost of living is generally lower in other countries. The level of living conditions is also lower. That's why the programmers can survive on less. Stuff isn't as expensive and they live in shit conditions.
Suppose the Police seized the printing presses of the Sun newspaper because a letter to the editor contained some nasty words. Would that curtail any freedom of speech, you think?
Writing a nasty letter to the editor, is unlikely to result in a printing press containing evidence that can't be easily found elsewhere. If this has ever happened in the past, then I agree the police abused their powers. But then again, all this has nothing to do with the article. Indymedia was given the choice to freely give the police logs and keep their server, they refused, so the law allows the police to gain the logs without Indymedia's permission. The fact that they are unable to do this without taking their server is not a fault of the police. It is, at best, the fault of the law for allowing the police to gain the server.
The person admitted to the crime on the hardware. In all probability, the hardware has logs that will help the police in finding out who claimed to commit the crime. There is evidence on the hardware, and I'm sure you new this and were just being a smart ass in an attempt to get modded Funny. You failed.
The police will probably give Slashdot the choice to provide them with logs (like the police did with Indymedia). I doubt very much Slashdot is going to balk at having to hand over logs. So I'm sorry, but slashdot would not protect you, and they would not have their server confiscated (and I also doubt they only have one server).
I wouldn't say that's the police's fault. They had to gather evidence, the only evidence available was on the server. The fact that indymedia's entire business resides on one server is not the police's fault. Had indymedia not wanted this to happen, they could have provided the police with the logs they originally requested.
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You're assuming that it could be cracked.
Based on every single attempt at DRM to date, I'd say that's a fair assumption.
Where would you buy a cracked one?
Assuming most electronic stores don't sell them by default (most places originally sold DVDs cracked to get around the region-coding limitations), there are plenty of places that are around that you can get such things cracked. I have friends that use to go to the local computer store and buy copied playstation games after getting the store to crack their playstation (if they didn't get someone else they knew to do it first). He was eventually busted, but someone nearby filled in the demand fairly quickly.
It will take time, but assuming laws start requiring consumer electronics to respect watermarks, eventually we'll be in a state where we can't find/buy old hardware to make an analog copy.
As I said, if it can reach my eyes, it can be copied. All I have to do is set up a camera and record it from the tv. Will it be perfect quality? Hell no. But then again existing pirated copies that are easily accessible aren't perfect either. And I'm sure the hardware will be crackable via plenty of other methods as well. There's more then one way to crack a DRM.
Tell that to people in rural America (those that have no access to broadband).
With public key encryption and the ability to revoke keys, any time something is cracked, those keys can be revoked and the player rendered useless. One or two films might be copied, but the mass piracy you see these days would slow to a trickle.
Wrong. I'd just use DRM-DVD to play my legitimate DVD's, and my Non-DRM-DVD to play my illegal copies. Or if all DVD's become DRM'd, I can buy a cracked one, that won't phone home and will let me play copied DVDs.
As long as I can see the content, there is no way to make a DRM system that won't be gotten around, in the foreseeable future (for all those geeks that want to say "what about if the content is lasered onto your eyes?").
Will you have to place your hands under a filtered xenon arc lamp when you leave work to make sure you didn't steal any sensitive info?
No, it'll be like mobile phones with cameras in them. Your fingernails will have to be left at the front desk.
I'll bet we start seeing guys with all of their nails at 7 inches long. How else are you going to fit all of your porn onto them?
On something else that's 7 inches when floppy?
Whee! I usually do my data in bytes....
I'm going to do mine in nibbles if it's stored on my fingernails.
Per the GPL: please supply me with the source code to your post.
I provide the source code, uncompiled, along with my post.
And they died a death
Quick! Someone tell these people they're game is dead.
If the model was way off, the prediction would be crazy nonsense.
I'd say many predictions are crazy nonsense. Here's a prediction on tomorrow's weather: It's going to rain.
I'm correct aren't I? I just didn't say where. Okay, a less smart ass reply: It's going to rain in Sydney. Am I right? Am I wrong? Who knows. If I'm right, I can say I've got a predictable model, if I'm wrong, I can say "hey, I'm not always wrong." I'm sure the model they use is better then mine, but it's easy to create a model that doesn't provide "crazy nonsense" but still not correspond to real life in any meaningful manner.
The simulation is an amazing tool to teach current scientific theories. It's a testament to the programming abilities of the creators. What it isn't, is evidence that Dark Matter exists. I've heard of simulations on how the eye has evolved over time and into existance. It's a great teaching tool, but it isn't evidence that evolution is correct (as many people claim it is. Were these people scientists, no. They were slashdotters. But this post is directed at slashdotters and not scientists). Before I get modded down as a bible thumper, I believe in evolution, but only because I haven't heard of a better explanation. I don't know enough about dark matter to say whether I believe it is a correct theory.
I've heard the theory that time didn't exist until the Big Bang, so therefore there was no split nanosecond before the Big Bang ;)
It sounds a lot like Creationist theories on the whole seven day deal.
It's really easy not to believe in anything, as it makes fighting for what you believe in so much easier. The system (society) is far more fucked if you go around supporting abusive organisations because their unnecessary product is best, than if you make sacrifices and help to make society a better place.
I sure hope you don't use windows.
Isn't the fact that workers in third world countries can do your job for cheaper than you enough to make you think that you're asking too much for your labor?
The cost of living is generally lower in other countries. The level of living conditions is also lower. That's why the programmers can survive on less. Stuff isn't as expensive and they live in shit conditions.
Then why are you here?
Because he's a Nerd. "Slashdot. News for Nerds." Says nothing about geeks.
I hate that standard. I refuse to follow it.
Bill Gates, is that you?
Go outside and wait until you see a plane fly overhead. See it? That's how far the joke went over your head.
Listen. I told you last night, and I'm telling you again. I am NOT going to Michael Munks's anus.
a method of obtaining patents for software innovations
Amazon will be safe from you, because your patent requires someone to innovate in order to break it.
Well actually, this isn't really news. So no-one really cares.
Suppose the Police seized the printing presses of the Sun newspaper because a letter to the editor contained some nasty words. Would that curtail any freedom of speech, you think?
Writing a nasty letter to the editor, is unlikely to result in a printing press containing evidence that can't be easily found elsewhere. If this has ever happened in the past, then I agree the police abused their powers. But then again, all this has nothing to do with the article. Indymedia was given the choice to freely give the police logs and keep their server, they refused, so the law allows the police to gain the logs without Indymedia's permission. The fact that they are unable to do this without taking their server is not a fault of the police. It is, at best, the fault of the law for allowing the police to gain the server.
The person admitted to the crime on the hardware. In all probability, the hardware has logs that will help the police in finding out who claimed to commit the crime. There is evidence on the hardware, and I'm sure you new this and were just being a smart ass in an attempt to get modded Funny. You failed.
Seizing servers without a judicial verdict is kind of iffy.
Lucky that didn't happen in this case. FTFA:
On Tue 21st June, the police contacted an IMC Bristol volunteer asking for IP logs.
They didn't get the logs, so they contacted a judge and received a search warrant.
The police will probably give Slashdot the choice to provide them with logs (like the police did with Indymedia). I doubt very much Slashdot is going to balk at having to hand over logs. So I'm sorry, but slashdot would not protect you, and they would not have their server confiscated (and I also doubt they only have one server).
In the USA we don't have an Indimedia at all.
Incorrect. Thankyou for trolling Adolf, please have a nice day.
I wouldn't say that's the police's fault. They had to gather evidence, the only evidence available was on the server. The fact that indymedia's entire business resides on one server is not the police's fault. Had indymedia not wanted this to happen, they could have provided the police with the logs they originally requested.