Not really. The ringtones themselves are cheaper so therefore the artist already gets less royalties then they would for a proper song. Oh and what the RIAA intends is quite obvious. They intend to pocket the money and if anything increase the price of ringtones.
Then how is 0.50 and 0.5 not the same number? The only difference is one is more exact then the other. Is 0.50 inches half an inch? If so then isn't 0.5 inches half an inch? It sounds like 0.50 and 0.5 is the same number to me.
I was giving my parent the benefit of the doubt in his claim that point fifty isn't the same as point five. I personally have never heard of this point fifty, and AFAIK it isn't actually a real number but instead just something someone made up.
Can you give me a citation of point fifty being used by an intelligent person? Or perhaps write down point fifty in actual numbers rather then words. Because 0.5 == 0.50. The only difference is one is more precise then the other.
So is "half" -- whatever the units you put on these numbers (cent, dollars, math-impaired people) they're quite real numbers. Right. Well when someone gives you half a cent in change, then I'll cede you the point. However until that happens, I stick by my claim that 0.002 cents is not a real monetary value.
Aaah, so it isn't actually a real number then? In that case I fail to see how the value of point fifty differs from the value of point five. In fact the only way they do differ, is one is a real number.
Well as you obviously know why don't you explain what a point fifty is?
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But as we all know 0.002 is a universal number that cannot be changed by adding a unit to it. So therefore 0.002 is an infinite amount of time (or at least a really long amount of time as there is no difference between 0.002 millennium and 0.002 days), so it shouldn't be full yet. At least in Verizon's world.
As they say, hindsight is 20/20. However he should not be forced to hand over more then he was originally quoted. As he was given a quote over the phone (and not only did he clarify the quote but he had it written down which COULD be written down as "0.002 cents" rather then "$0.002") he couldn't realize Verizon employees were trained to be so fucking stupid. As such he should be allowed to pay what he was quoted.
What the technician needs to do is charge by the 0.002 WHATEVER and then he can make up his fee, because Verizon is quite good when it comes to maths as long as you don't use 0.002 in any way, shape or form. Once you introduce a 0.002 their brains freeze up.
That's always seemed unnecessarily pedantic to me, and completely ignores the reality of the AD system.
And I also aceeded the point that our modern calendar is quite recent (all of history-wise) and wasn't in use in year 1 A.D (obviously) Yes, but not only was it not used in 1 AD, it wasn't possible for it to be used before 525. So while you can claim that there was no year zero, I'll claim that there was no 524 and that we won't actually celebrate the new millennium for another 519 years. The simple fact of the matter is, we act as if we did have a year 0 (despite the fact we call it year 1 BC) just as we act as if we had a year 524 AD.
but that point too didn't change the basis of the simple arithmetic of the 2000-is-the-last-year-of-the-20th-century-and-2nd- millennium issue. That's if you choose to use arithmetic from an arbitrary starting point. You're welcome to use it from your arbitrary starting point, despite the fact you'll be in the vast minority. And I'll the arithmetic from a different arbitrary starting point. My arbitrary starting point makes the year 2000 the beginning of the third millennium. You'll have no luck convincing me to move over to your starting point, as both our starting points are equally arbitrary.
Now if you wish to use arithmetic starting starting from 525 AD to calculate the beginning of centuries and millenniums, I'll be happy to concede you the point.
They do very quickly realise their error though, right? They don't try saying there's no difference between half a month's pay and two weeks worth of pay once you point it out, right? Right?
I've never heard of a "point fifty" before only a "point five zero". I understand what a fiftieth of something is. But I can't say I've ever heard of point fifty.
Just so you know a simplification of an Australian company's offer is 0.0003 cents per kilobyte (although in this simplification you don't use more then 10GB or less then 10GB. In reality you can use less or more and still pay as if you used the 10GB).
I would have much more sympathy for Verizon and accept this argument if the rate $0.02 per kilobyte. But it isn't. This isn't a real number we're dealing with. This is a fictional number. Just as half a cent is a fictional number. They understand the difference between half a cent and half a dollar. But you get them down to 0.002 and they suddenly become brain dead.
Aren't there laws that force companies to charge the rate their advertise (or in this case, repeatedly insist upon)? I believe there are in Australia, at the very least.
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Not really. The ringtones themselves are cheaper so therefore the artist already gets less royalties then they would for a proper song. Oh and what the RIAA intends is quite obvious. They intend to pocket the money and if anything increase the price of ringtones.
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Actually wouldn't 2.5 be 2 hours and 30 minutes or 2 hours and fifty minutes?
Then how is 0.50 and 0.5 not the same number? The only difference is one is more exact then the other. Is 0.50 inches half an inch? If so then isn't 0.5 inches half an inch? It sounds like 0.50 and 0.5 is the same number to me.
I was giving my parent the benefit of the doubt in his claim that point fifty isn't the same as point five. I personally have never heard of this point fifty, and AFAIK it isn't actually a real number but instead just something someone made up.
Can you give me a citation of point fifty being used by an intelligent person? Or perhaps write down point fifty in actual numbers rather then words. Because 0.5 == 0.50. The only difference is one is more precise then the other.
OJ Simpson killed his wife and THEN WROTE A BOOK ABOUT HOW HE DID IT! I don't really pay much attention to what he has to say.
Aaah, so it isn't actually a real number then? In that case I fail to see how the value of point fifty differs from the value of point five. In fact the only way they do differ, is one is a real number.
Well as you obviously know why don't you explain what a point fifty is?
But as we all know 0.002 is a universal number that cannot be changed by adding a unit to it. So therefore 0.002 is an infinite amount of time (or at least a really long amount of time as there is no difference between 0.002 millennium and 0.002 days), so it shouldn't be full yet. At least in Verizon's world.
As they say, hindsight is 20/20. However he should not be forced to hand over more then he was originally quoted. As he was given a quote over the phone (and not only did he clarify the quote but he had it written down which COULD be written down as "0.002 cents" rather then "$0.002") he couldn't realize Verizon employees were trained to be so fucking stupid. As such he should be allowed to pay what he was quoted.
How do you find the size of a YouTube video?
What the technician needs to do is charge by the 0.002 WHATEVER and then he can make up his fee, because Verizon is quite good when it comes to maths as long as you don't use 0.002 in any way, shape or form. Once you introduce a 0.002 their brains freeze up.
Now if you wish to use arithmetic starting starting from 525 AD to calculate the beginning of centuries and millenniums, I'll be happy to concede you the point.
They do very quickly realise their error though, right? They don't try saying there's no difference between half a month's pay and two weeks worth of pay once you point it out, right? Right?
Do people truly use a decimal point instead of a colon when separating hours from minutes in the workplace?
I've never heard of a "point fifty" before only a "point five zero". I understand what a fiftieth of something is. But I can't say I've ever heard of point fifty.
Can you explain what it is to me?
It depends how you're communicating it. 0.5 == 0.50. HOWEVER point five != point fifty.
They did in fact have no problem with being recorded anyway. I don't think she realises how stupid she sounds.
Just so you know a simplification of an Australian company's offer is 0.0003 cents per kilobyte (although in this simplification you don't use more then 10GB or less then 10GB. In reality you can use less or more and still pay as if you used the 10GB).
I would have much more sympathy for Verizon and accept this argument if the rate $0.02 per kilobyte. But it isn't. This isn't a real number we're dealing with. This is a fictional number. Just as half a cent is a fictional number. They understand the difference between half a cent and half a dollar. But you get them down to 0.002 and they suddenly become brain dead.
Aren't there laws that force companies to charge the rate their advertise (or in this case, repeatedly insist upon)? I believe there are in Australia, at the very least.