You have a point (he certainly wasn't German, there was error after error). I wouldn't have thought one would put a space in, even mis-spelled, but you're right about Google too... except for Sour Kraut @ Blogspot (apparently "Less Whiney than Your Average Jews"), all are recipe sites (and.com and.org, so maybe it's just a European misjudgement I'm making).
Seriously, I wish I hadn't picked up on this particular post (it wasn't the worst and I don't expect the guy is actually racist, any more than most, but that knee-jerk reaction of 'ooh, look, it's an article about Germany let's post some of the old jokes' really gets annoying the more I read this board) - my reason for doing so was (as a re-hash of a re-hash) that there was definitely grounds to mod it down (redundancy).
Unfortunately, instead of having a way to mod down petty racism on the board, instead I've been more than once modded up for pointing it out... and nothing changes...
Soma's not the only chemical in BNW - what I was referring to was the conditioning, including chemical intervention, of (in that case pre-birth) humans towards their intended work...
Actually the situation in the UK is very much (from school upwards) that only Biology is an acceptable/attractive science for women, probably because Medicine and the related fields are seen as nurturing.
Girls are steered or scared away from Physics and Chemistry because of the reliance of Maths (another reason) and general Science, Technology and Engineering fields - the medical-related aside - all suffer as a result.
You seem to be interpreting "the smart women were all math majors" as if he'd said "the maths majors were all smart women" - it wasn't a surjective projection;)
(Presumably you mean 'defend inventions', but anyway...)
I'm not sure if patents are different in the States, but in the UK they don't defend inventions, they defend the right to initially exploit an innovation. This is why they're fixed term (they just give you a head start with an innovation you made an investment in to develop) and why, yes it's true, if you don't make a commercial exploitation you can't defend your patent.
I'd kind of thought the same applied in the US (not least due to the bit in the article about the company making use of their patent) but perhaps not...
Yeah, no, absolutely - that's what I mean about explaining a lot;)
(Actually, as it goes, I do know the non-Bavarian South, but you're right about my not knowing the North...)
Actually my experience is the opposite, having been funded by a large company in Berlin (where I found people very open) and then spending a lot of time in Bavaria these past five years... I guess that explains a lot though;)
Cool.
Similarly I think there's humour in the Fawlty Tours sketch (though certain kinds of people seem to miss that Basil's the figure of fun and all the sympathy is with the diners).
Excuse my being personal, though, but does your wife like to be called Kraut and reminded of Blitzkrieg (or however he spelt it)?
I think you'll find that the truth is that European software, especially in public administration, is more accountable and failures are publically examined.
What do you mean "full RPC implementation" - I think the ability to XML-encode the data is core to the spec, to pop it in a SOAP envelope does a lot of good for little effort, imo (there's no need to add correlation, transactions and all that other good stuff).
The one at the top about a menu based on the front panel, or the one underneath about transmitting the picture from a PSX to another machine with which it's networked?
Didn't see anything about Americans...
I agree, I hate that I have an address book (not just numbers), calculator, calendar, notes and to-do list in my phone... it just makes things so convenient! (I shan't even mention the conversion app that allows me to talk to non-metricated types...)
Same with a horse and carriage - I refuse to travel in these ungodly horseless contraptions...
As on your point that XForms will replace Java Applets in the near future, I'm not so sure about this. Applets are (next to Flash and the like) a way of putting some brain at the client side. It is commonly used to set up communication between the client and a server that is not a simple GET or POST request. (I fear a bit that Flash is pushing Java Applets aside.)
While I was being a bit reactionary (to the anti-Microsoft message in the article) and don't think all of the roles of Java Applets would be subsumed either (JGraph being a good example in that case), I am serious that XForms intend to do a serious amount of the stuff that we're both talking about.
And as far as "convincing the Brits [...] that metric is a good idea" - we were convinced in 1862!
"...no nation which has adopted the Metric system has failed to derive the greatest benefit from such adoption, or, after adoption has shown any desire to abandon it." Report from the Select Committee on Weights and Measures (1862)
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You have a point (he certainly wasn't German, there was error after error). I wouldn't have thought one would put a space in, even mis-spelled, but you're right about Google too... except for Sour Kraut @ Blogspot (apparently "Less Whiney than Your Average Jews"), all are recipe sites (and .com and .org, so maybe it's just a European misjudgement I'm making).
Seriously, I wish I hadn't picked up on this particular post (it wasn't the worst and I don't expect the guy is actually racist, any more than most, but that knee-jerk reaction of 'ooh, look, it's an article about Germany let's post some of the old jokes' really gets annoying the more I read this board) - my reason for doing so was (as a re-hash of a re-hash) that there was definitely grounds to mod it down (redundancy).
Unfortunately, instead of having a way to mod down petty racism on the board, instead I've been more than once modded up for pointing it out... and nothing changes...
Soma's not the only chemical in BNW - what I was referring to was the conditioning, including chemical intervention, of (in that case pre-birth) humans towards their intended work...
... Seriously, read it (if you haven't).
Unlike "Sour kraut", which makes it clear that we were reading the term of racist abuse, not the foodstuff (from which that term is derived).
Actually the situation in the UK is very much (from school upwards) that only Biology is an acceptable/attractive science for women, probably because Medicine and the related fields are seen as nurturing.
Girls are steered or scared away from Physics and Chemistry because of the reliance of Maths (another reason) and general Science, Technology and Engineering fields - the medical-related aside - all suffer as a result.
The irony is that the success of women in Medicine is now being questioned! http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,127 4299,00.html
You seem to be interpreting "the smart women were all math majors" as if he'd said "the maths majors were all smart women" - it wasn't a surjective projection ;)
I'm not sure if patents are different in the States, but in the UK they don't defend inventions, they defend the right to initially exploit an innovation. This is why they're fixed term (they just give you a head start with an innovation you made an investment in to develop) and why, yes it's true, if you don't make a commercial exploitation you can't defend your patent.
I'd kind of thought the same applied in the US (not least due to the bit in the article about the company making use of their patent) but perhaps not...
Yeah, no, absolutely - that's what I mean about explaining a lot ;)
(Actually, as it goes, I do know the non-Bavarian South, but you're right about my not knowing the North...)
Actually my experience is the opposite, having been funded by a large company in Berlin (where I found people very open) and then spending a lot of time in Bavaria these past five years... I guess that explains a lot though ;)
Cool. Similarly I think there's humour in the Fawlty Tours sketch (though certain kinds of people seem to miss that Basil's the figure of fun and all the sympathy is with the diners). Excuse my being personal, though, but does your wife like to be called Kraut and reminded of Blitzkrieg (or however he spelt it)?
There's a charming generalisation...
I think you'll find that the truth is that European software, especially in public administration, is more accountable and failures are publically examined.
This is also the case in the UK, for example...
Reading through the thinly-veiled racism on this board, who could blame them? And let's not forget the non-US origins of Linux itself...
Moderators: is it really funny, and not redundant, to make these same jokes every single time Germany is mentioned?
Yes, they talk differently (from y'all).
Yes, you shot at them in the 1940s.
No, this is not doing your public image in Europe any damned good!
Are heeeeeeeeeeeeeeere come the anti-German jokes... one can always rely on Slashdot!
Do I understand you to mean (which you've written) that Slashdot can only be read by the subnormal? Or are these disclusions?
What do you mean "full RPC implementation" - I think the ability to XML-encode the data is core to the spec, to pop it in a SOAP envelope does a lot of good for little effort, imo (there's no need to add correlation, transactions and all that other good stuff).
The one at the top about a menu based on the front panel, or the one underneath about transmitting the picture from a PSX to another machine with which it's networked? Didn't see anything about Americans...
I'm not sure if my phone's ever been off, in fact!
I agree, I hate that I have an address book (not just numbers), calculator, calendar, notes and to-do list in my phone... it just makes things so convenient! (I shan't even mention the conversion app that allows me to talk to non-metricated types...)
Same with a horse and carriage - I refuse to travel in these ungodly horseless contraptions...
Actually the ancestor (can't be bothered to count) was talking about the future spec (actually 1.1 not 2.0 at the moment), where the requirements doc (http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/NOTE-xforms-11-req-2004 0611/) says:
I, for one, am in favour, since adding a presentation layer to SOAP-based web services is currently a real pain.
While I was being a bit reactionary (to the anti-Microsoft message in the article) and don't think all of the roles of Java Applets would be subsumed either (JGraph being a good example in that case), I am serious that XForms intend to do a serious amount of the stuff that we're both talking about.
Check out Section I of the 1.1 Requirements (http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/NOTE-xforms-11-req-2004 0611/) and the associated discussions...
Erm... XForms... sort of what the article's about! Submission, to be precise, but that's kinda implied in forms, surely (?)...
I thought that jumping on any story from Germany or Japan with little digs based on nationality was the way (?)...
Too right!
And as far as "convincing the Brits [...] that metric is a good idea" - we were convinced in 1862!
"...no nation which has adopted the Metric system has failed to derive the greatest benefit from such adoption, or, after adoption has shown any desire to abandon it."
Report from the Select Committee on Weights and Measures (1862)
Good point.