..whistling past the graveyard. It sounds a/lot/ like what US automobile manufacturers said about the Japanese in the 60s and 70s. And then the Japanese whipped Ford, Chrysler, and GM's collective asses.
Go ahead, dismiss your opponent as incompetent. Down that road lies complacency and defeat.
So you're going to fault them for taking shortcuts instead of reinventing the wheel?
That's nuts. Nobody reinvents wheels if they can get clues/technology/etc, from elsewhere. Absolutely nobody. Only idiots make stuff from scratch without referring to other technology and practices.
Come the fuck on, the industrial revolution was started in the US along the Blackstone River with "stolen" British ideas. Samuel Slater was no dummy.
>and those part of the Gnome Desktop are better than their KDE equivalents
That right there means that you have not tried KDE since the 4.0 days and you hold a grudge ever since then.
Just Dolphin, all by itself, runs rings around the new and old versions of Nautilus. I would not have said the same thing a year and a half ago, but as I said above, I hid out in Gnome 2.3 waiting for the KDE devs to unfuck the desktop.
And what do you know, they did come around to fixing a lot of things and making stuff work. I have my ioslaves back.
But I don't expect to change your mind because you already dismissed my opinion is worthless as stated above. I just thought I'd call you out on your BS.
Speidel was literally down the street from me by 3 miles in "The Jewelry District." Providence RI was known as the jewelry capital of the world at one point.
They shipped off to China too. Want a twisty metal band for your watch? Can't get a US made one anymore.
I blame Texas Instruments and others. I blame TI for closing their Attleboro MA plant and shipping everything off, including the engineering, to China.
Then there was AT Cross. Back when you wanted a "fancy pen" in the 70s and 80s, you bought a Cross pen. What did AT Cross do? Pick up and ship everything off to China from Lincoln RI. No, it's not high tech, but the thinking is the same.
Those are just local examples I can think of off the top of my head.
You get modbombed because you don't bring anything to the discussion except "hate china" and your ideas are lame. Supply them with faulty technology like you suggested in a previous message? Dude, they can get the latest processors off the shelf. And it's not like they don't have fabs for making their own. We gave it to them, willingly.
So if you have anything to say bad about anybody, maybe you should look at US businesses, who in their greed for short term gains, decided to hand the Chinese everything they wanted.
I don't fault the Chinese for anything they do now. I do fault US boards and CEOs for fucking everyone here for a quick buck.
So yeah, you get modbombed because you're not contributing.
As an old usenetter, whenever I see C&C, I think of "coffee and cats warning" as in "put down the coffee and push the cat off your lap before you read this."
Authorities Seize Duqu's Coffee and Cats ServersIn Mumbai
Gold standard. As if a super hard currency is any more helpful when it comes to making an economy more stable. See the panics of 1890 and earlier.
The "right" of businesses to discriminate in public accommodation. There's a reason why the Civil Rights Act happened. Absolutism when it comes to "the right of business" vs the rights of everyone else is just nuts. Ron and Rand's justification for this is that "everyone's dollar is equal, and businesses would not be acting in their self interest by not catering to everyone." When we know this is not true and there was 100 years of Jim Crow backed by white business interests to put the lie to this.
I have followed his career since the mid 1980s when I first heard his interview on the David Brudnoy show on WBZ (rest in peace, David, talk radio has never been the same). In which I thought his ideas were intriguing and wished to subscribe to his newsletter.
But he's changed over the years. I've changed over the years. Purist ideology like his fails to take into account asshats. Libertarianism of his and his son's bent, only works if people behave the way they should and not the way they are.
But hey, what the fuck do I know. I've only been listening to him for 25 years.
>why would we miss four paychecks in this disaster?
You have crappy reading comprehension when you can't understand metaphors.
> (especially, if the undeveloped part of the world has a mass die-off)
When is the last time you've been by a farm? Seriously. What affects the "undeveloped world" is going to affect the US, because the environment gives not a single flying fuck about borders, and we still rely on things grown in the ground and exposed to sunlight. That is unless you know of someone who is manufacturing Soylent Green and aren't telling anyone.
>Or we can conjure the old species out of frozen seeds, sperm, and eggs which we can keep preserved for tens of thousands of years.
And germinate or grow them in-utero in exactly what surrogate animals?
>Modern science has caught up with that particular science fiction after all.
Then where the fuck is my flying car? A flying car is a simpler engineering feat than trying to grow an orca fetus in a dog.
The last time the Siberian Traps erupted, it took 30 million years for life to rebound after 95 percent of all life on land and in the oceans died. It was so catastrophic that those who have studied it call it The Great Dying. It was far more deadly than even the K-T event.
No, it's not anything we can plan for unless we're off planet.
I don't think you know how bad supervolcanoes are.
Think Mt. St. Helens.
Then multiply it by 1000. At once. Just for this guy. It would be bad. A lot of people on different continents would die from lack of food because the growing season would be nonexistent for many people. For years.
If the Siberian Traps go, we're all fucked. That's called an extinction event.
Yeah, I'll buy that argument.
The stereotype of American companies being shortsighted is a stereotype because it's true. It's not just defense contractors.
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..whistling past the graveyard. It sounds a /lot/ like what US automobile manufacturers said about the Japanese in the 60s and 70s. And then the Japanese whipped Ford, Chrysler, and GM's collective asses.
Go ahead, dismiss your opponent as incompetent. Down that road lies complacency and defeat.
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So you're going to fault them for taking shortcuts instead of reinventing the wheel?
That's nuts. Nobody reinvents wheels if they can get clues/technology/etc, from elsewhere. Absolutely nobody. Only idiots make stuff from scratch without referring to other technology and practices.
Come the fuck on, the industrial revolution was started in the US along the Blackstone River with "stolen" British ideas. Samuel Slater was no dummy.
What a load of crap, sir.
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>and those part of the Gnome Desktop are better than their KDE equivalents
That right there means that you have not tried KDE since the 4.0 days and you hold a grudge ever since then.
Just Dolphin, all by itself, runs rings around the new and old versions of Nautilus. I would not have said the same thing a year and a half ago, but as I said above, I hid out in Gnome 2.3 waiting for the KDE devs to unfuck the desktop.
And what do you know, they did come around to fixing a lot of things and making stuff work. I have my ioslaves back.
But I don't expect to change your mind because you already dismissed my opinion is worthless as stated above. I just thought I'd call you out on your BS.
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After hiding out in Gnome 2.3 while the KDE folks got their shit together, I tried KDE 4.7.2 in Ubuntu.
I'm staying. It's spectacular. It's really, really nice.
While I didn't find Unity bad, I found KDE so much better.
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There is no scam without a greedy mark.
Chew on that for a while.
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Speidel was literally down the street from me by 3 miles in "The Jewelry District." Providence RI was known as the jewelry capital of the world at one point.
They shipped off to China too. Want a twisty metal band for your watch? Can't get a US made one anymore.
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Nope. Not gonna blame China.
I blame Texas Instruments and others. I blame TI for closing their Attleboro MA plant and shipping everything off, including the engineering, to China.
Then there was AT Cross. Back when you wanted a "fancy pen" in the 70s and 80s, you bought a Cross pen. What did AT Cross do? Pick up and ship everything off to China from Lincoln RI. No, it's not high tech, but the thinking is the same.
Those are just local examples I can think of off the top of my head.
Not blaming China anymore. I blame US.
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>It's the truth, no matter how far you modbomb.
You get modbombed because you don't bring anything to the discussion except "hate china" and your ideas are lame. Supply them with faulty technology like you suggested in a previous message? Dude, they can get the latest processors off the shelf. And it's not like they don't have fabs for making their own. We gave it to them, willingly.
So if you have anything to say bad about anybody, maybe you should look at US businesses, who in their greed for short term gains, decided to hand the Chinese everything they wanted.
I don't fault the Chinese for anything they do now. I do fault US boards and CEOs for fucking everyone here for a quick buck.
So yeah, you get modbombed because you're not contributing.
Have a nice day.
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As an old usenetter, whenever I see C&C, I think of "coffee and cats warning" as in "put down the coffee and push the cat off your lap before you read this."
Authorities Seize Duqu's Coffee and Cats Servers In Mumbai
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>don't like my language
>language wasn't directed at you
>insult me directly
Grow a fucking thicker skin, you diseased cunt.
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I'll just throw these out:
Gold standard. As if a super hard currency is any more helpful when it comes to making an economy more stable. See the panics of 1890 and earlier.
The "right" of businesses to discriminate in public accommodation. There's a reason why the Civil Rights Act happened. Absolutism when it comes to "the right of business" vs the rights of everyone else is just nuts. Ron and Rand's justification for this is that "everyone's dollar is equal, and businesses would not be acting in their self interest by not catering to everyone." When we know this is not true and there was 100 years of Jim Crow backed by white business interests to put the lie to this.
I could go on. But you get the idea.
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Correction, it's only been 20 years. The interview was in 1991, but I can't find an archive of it. There was a Rapidshare link from LewRockwell.
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I have followed his career since the mid 1980s when I first heard his interview on the David Brudnoy show on WBZ (rest in peace, David, talk radio has never been the same). In which I thought his ideas were intriguing and wished to subscribe to his newsletter.
But he's changed over the years. I've changed over the years. Purist ideology like his fails to take into account asshats. Libertarianism of his and his son's bent, only works if people behave the way they should and not the way they are.
But hey, what the fuck do I know. I've only been listening to him for 25 years.
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No, I don't.
Because Ron Paul is a nutjob. Yeah, he's good for 5 minutes, but then he keeps on talking, and then you realize just how nuts he is.
And you guys follow him around like he's Jesus or Steve Jobs.
Here are the picks:
Religious Whackos and Social Darwinists vs
Social Darwinist minus some of the Religiosity, vs
More of the same.
That's not a fucking choice.
Fuck you.
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It's really sad when people don't recognize one of the best movies of all time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4e8iAofnrw
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The softie shills are out in force on this one.
this guy here...
http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2498664&cid=37870070
Insane. Truly nuts.
"Sure you can trust Microsoft - all doubts are tinfoil"
No, no we can't. Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining.
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A windshield is not a perfect surface. It's got all sorts of scratches and dirt and whatnot.
The laser hits the windshield and makes every single one of these imperfections light up from scattering. It can make things difficult to see.
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Those are reports of people /successfully/ getting the aim right.
The number of morons waving their lasers indiscriminately at planes is much higher.
I had one idiot shine his fucking keychain laser at my face at a fucking bar. The "average person" with a laser pointer is a fucking menace.
While I disagree with Australia's ban on "high power lasers" (i.e., lasers strong enough to be seen at distance), I do see their point.
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>why would we miss four paychecks in this disaster?
You have crappy reading comprehension when you can't understand metaphors.
> (especially, if the undeveloped part of the world has a mass die-off)
When is the last time you've been by a farm? Seriously. What affects the "undeveloped world" is going to affect the US, because the environment gives not a single flying fuck about borders, and we still rely on things grown in the ground and exposed to sunlight. That is unless you know of someone who is manufacturing Soylent Green and aren't telling anyone.
>Or we can conjure the old species out of frozen seeds, sperm, and eggs which we can keep preserved for tens of thousands of years.
And germinate or grow them in-utero in exactly what surrogate animals?
>Modern science has caught up with that particular science fiction after all.
Then where the fuck is my flying car? A flying car is a simpler engineering feat than trying to grow an orca fetus in a dog.
You live in a fantasy land. I'm done here.
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> but I bet both that humanity would survive
Humanity is 4 paychecks away from total chaos. Really. Look around you.
>It's different now.
Where does your food come from? What is it dependent on?
>life would rebound a whole lot faster than 30 million years.
Yeah, we're going to conjure up all sorts of new species of fish, plants, and mammals out of thin air.
Stop reading so much SF.
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The last time the Siberian Traps erupted, it took 30 million years for life to rebound after 95 percent of all life on land and in the oceans died. It was so catastrophic that those who have studied it call it The Great Dying. It was far more deadly than even the K-T event.
No, it's not anything we can plan for unless we're off planet.
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Scientifically illiterat retard spotted.
And you fail at math, too.
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I don't think you know how bad supervolcanoes are.
Think Mt. St. Helens.
Then multiply it by 1000. At once. Just for this guy. It would be bad. A lot of people on different continents would die from lack of food because the growing season would be nonexistent for many people. For years.
If the Siberian Traps go, we're all fucked. That's called an extinction event.
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It took the SCO case 7 years to resolve and they had nothing on their side.
Google isn't going down without a fight. We'll still be reading about this in 2025.
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