Yeah, I guess you're correct. He wants to reset the clock to 1860 when it was still legal for states to individually determine that owning slaves was legal.
Because if you read all the arguments from that time, it was about "states' rights" back then too.
His kind of libertarianism does not take into account that people are asshats. Kinda like what communism and fascism are like - great on paper, but leads to dictatorships and genocides in practice.
Libertarians are willfully ignorant of reality, history, and pretty much everything.
Having a working knowledge of how a car works sometimes means the difference between a thinner wallet and an empty wallet when dealing with a mechanic.
There is no excuse for stuff like this, and your assertion is stupid.
Doesn't this mean Astrolabe is currently licencing the information in question and therefore not the copyright holder? So in my mind this means unnamed holder implied here in point 8 would be the party to file against Olson, not Astrolabe.
You are entirely correct.
It goes to standing. The first thing one decides in a court case is "does this person have standing to sue?" This must be answered before anything else, because it's the quickest way to move the court along - by getting rid of the most bogus suits the easiest way.
In the US, only the actual copyright holder gets to sue for infringement. No third parties. Astrolabe does not own the copyright(s).
Anyone with outlier body problems is a suspect now.
DHS is now waging war against the disabled
Since the thread was already Godwinned in the first post, I'm going to say that the Nazis also did similar things to the mentally and physically disabled. It's just a jump from detecting and classifying people like this to eugenics.
How can the purple yeti be so red, Or chestnuts, like a widgeon, calmly groan? No sheep is quite as crooked as a bed, Though chickens ever try to hide a bone. I grieve that greasy turnips slowly march: Indeed, inflated is the icy pig: For as the alligator strikes the larch, So sighs the grazing goldfish for a wig. Oh, has the pilchard argued with a top? Say never that the parsnip is too weird! I tell thee that a wolf-man will not hop And no man ever praised the convex beard. Effulgent is the day when bishops turn: So let not then the doctor wake the urn!
I think that Google should just blackhole Canada if this ruling stands.
See, back a while ago, the newspapers in Belgium sued Google for copyright infringement, and Google was told by the court to take down the content or face a big fine, per day.
So they did took it down.
Suddenly the Belgian newspapers were screaming bloody murder because they weren't getting hits.
Go ahead, "content creators", kill indexing and searching. Bring it back to the old days of no search engines. I dare you.
Ron Paul would just have us trade one tyranny for another, that of moneyed interests against "the rest of us" which is going on as we speak, but even more so.
You're fooling yourself if you think he's on "our side"
That's because big Chinese corporations play a longer game than US companies do. US companies plan only for the next quarter.
It even goes to society in general, and in government. The Chinese government thinks in terms of 10 years or more, where our politicians are only thinking about the next election.
The HP Way is dead. Inventing cool stuff is no more. That got spun off as Agilent. Now it's just another soulless corporation waiting to suck the soul right out of you.
And they're offering you 10 percent more for the privilege.
Steve Jobs types have emotional capital invested in their companies.
They give a shit. It's not just a job. Steve Jobs came back aboard Apple with a One Dollar salary and no golden parachute. When he stepped down as CEO, Tim Cook didn't get a golden parachute either (he's gotta work for it for 10 years if he wants to be vested in a dime of stock). That's the way it should be done.
I defy anyone to find an MBA gun-for-hire that give a shit if a company fails or not, especially if there's a golden-parachute contract. I will bet you dollars to donuts that Meg Whitman's golden parachute is not only gold, but rhodium plated to boot.
>Now inside of a few short months they've been experiencing some pretty serious problems after going for so very long without any.
Because the Chinese are going to be marketing their new heavy booster any day now. Deng Xioping came back from the dead and he's the new marketing director.
If business owners are on the hook for the behavior of their employees, they should get together and get this law repealed. If enough do, it sounds like a slam-dunk to me. The reason why it hasn't already been done is that probably too many business owners don't know that they're on the hook.
Copyright is clearly being abused. It's time to bring it back to 14 years and a 14 year renewal like when they had it in 1790. The framers of the Constitution did not set out to enable you to create one work and sit on your ass for the rest of your life and enrich your grandkids after your demise.
We should all ignore copyright law as it stands, as practicable. Fuck them. Fuck them all.
If you are an author: too bad. Your bad apples have declared war on society at large and stolen from the public domain.
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I get to disagree with them because I used to be one of them.
I used to be a libertarian (and a communist, and other things), then I grew up.
Toodles.
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You think that "states' rights" is just about abortion?
You're an idiot. A complete, utter, idiot.
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>states rights
Yeah, I guess you're correct. He wants to reset the clock to 1860 when it was still legal for states to individually determine that owning slaves was legal.
Because if you read all the arguments from that time, it was about "states' rights" back then too.
His kind of libertarianism does not take into account that people are asshats. Kinda like what communism and fascism are like - great on paper, but leads to dictatorships and genocides in practice.
Libertarians are willfully ignorant of reality, history, and pretty much everything.
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>and in reality they shouldn't have to care.
Having a working knowledge of how a car works sometimes means the difference between a thinner wallet and an empty wallet when dealing with a mechanic.
There is no excuse for stuff like this, and your assertion is stupid.
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...is to keep people from resolving their differences at the point of a gun.
If you turn laws into something that people can no longer turn to for fairness, then what?
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Doesn't this mean Astrolabe is currently licencing the information in question and therefore not the copyright holder? So in my mind this means unnamed holder implied here in point 8 would be the party to file against Olson, not Astrolabe.
You are entirely correct.
It goes to standing. The first thing one decides in a court case is "does this person have standing to sue?" This must be answered before anything else, because it's the quickest way to move the court along - by getting rid of the most bogus suits the easiest way.
In the US, only the actual copyright holder gets to sue for infringement. No third parties. Astrolabe does not own the copyright(s).
They do not have standing.
Case dismissed, summary judgment.
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Indeed. I had forgotten about those in my post.
This will just make the killing of disabled more efficient.
I wish I was joking.
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Anyone with outlier body problems is a suspect now.
DHS is now waging war against the disabled
Since the thread was already Godwinned in the first post, I'm going to say that the Nazis also did similar things to the mentally and physically disabled. It's just a jump from detecting and classifying people like this to eugenics.
Thanks, DHS.
Go fuck yourselves.
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How can the purple yeti be so red,
Or chestnuts, like a widgeon, calmly groan?
No sheep is quite as crooked as a bed,
Though chickens ever try to hide a bone.
I grieve that greasy turnips slowly march:
Indeed, inflated is the icy pig:
For as the alligator strikes the larch,
So sighs the grazing goldfish for a wig.
Oh, has the pilchard argued with a top?
Say never that the parsnip is too weird!
I tell thee that a wolf-man will not hop
And no man ever praised the convex beard.
Effulgent is the day when bishops turn:
So let not then the doctor wake the urn!
- Prof. Jonathan R. Partington's computer.
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Came for the Wizard of Oz reference, leaving satisfied.
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>third sentence.
I cannot into English.
I think that Google should just blackhole Canada if this ruling stands.
See, back a while ago, the newspapers in Belgium sued Google for copyright infringement, and Google was told by the court to take down the content or face a big fine, per day.
So they did took it down.
Suddenly the Belgian newspapers were screaming bloody murder because they weren't getting hits.
Go ahead, "content creators", kill indexing and searching. Bring it back to the old days of no search engines. I dare you.
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Redundant?
In the second post?
Really?
Mods. Crack. And obviously a mod that never heard of Opera Mini.
Protip for Opera mini: you can use it as a quickie proxy for internet shenanigans. That's because that's what it is.
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Ron Paul would just have us trade one tyranny for another, that of moneyed interests against "the rest of us" which is going on as we speak, but even more so.
You're fooling yourself if you think he's on "our side"
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Apropos video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FevVfmog4JA
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That's because big Chinese corporations play a longer game than US companies do. US companies plan only for the next quarter.
It even goes to society in general, and in government. The Chinese government thinks in terms of 10 years or more, where our politicians are only thinking about the next election.
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But that's not the point of this bill.
It's the industry proposing something just short of decapitation, versus the current situation that non-profit file sharing is explicitly legal.
Somewhere in the middle is "compromise" where everyone loses except the rent-seeking gatekeepers of culture.
"See, it wasn't as bad as what we wanted"
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You have to look a bit deeper than that.
The HP Way is dead. Inventing cool stuff is no more. That got spun off as Agilent. Now it's just another soulless corporation waiting to suck the soul right out of you.
And they're offering you 10 percent more for the privilege.
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Steve Jobs types have emotional capital invested in their companies.
They give a shit. It's not just a job. Steve Jobs came back aboard Apple with a One Dollar salary and no golden parachute. When he stepped down as CEO, Tim Cook didn't get a golden parachute either (he's gotta work for it for 10 years if he wants to be vested in a dime of stock). That's the way it should be done.
I defy anyone to find an MBA gun-for-hire that give a shit if a company fails or not, especially if there's a golden-parachute contract. I will bet you dollars to donuts that Meg Whitman's golden parachute is not only gold, but rhodium plated to boot.
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This.
So. Much. This.
"You don't manage people. You manage machines. You lead people" - RADM Grace Hopper.
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Another "brand is everything, fuck product" CEO? Another CEO that never ventured anywhere near an engineering department or shop floor?
Another CEO that thinks selling technology is like selling colored sugar water? Another Scully, but for HP?
Short HP. Short it to 0.
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>Now inside of a few short months they've been experiencing some pretty serious problems after going for so very long without any.
Because the Chinese are going to be marketing their new heavy booster any day now. Deng Xioping came back from the dead and he's the new marketing director.
Blame Canada.
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Is to get the law repealed.
If business owners are on the hook for the behavior of their employees, they should get together and get this law repealed. If enough do, it sounds like a slam-dunk to me. The reason why it hasn't already been done is that probably too many business owners don't know that they're on the hook.
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I don't know what your point is, AC, but please do feel free to copy this as many times as you wish. You may even put your own name to it. Have at it.
Same with all my comments here and in Usenet and on Facebook and wherever.
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Copyright is clearly being abused. It's time to bring it back to 14 years and a 14 year renewal like when they had it in 1790. The framers of the Constitution did not set out to enable you to create one work and sit on your ass for the rest of your life and enrich your grandkids after your demise.
We should all ignore copyright law as it stands, as practicable. Fuck them. Fuck them all.
If you are an author: too bad. Your bad apples have declared war on society at large and stolen from the public domain.
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