Remember a while back they were claiming to have some triple-digit number of patents that the Linux kernel infringes on?
Yes, how can one forget?
IBM and TurboHercules debacle
Yes. TurboHercules is suing IBM in a SCO-esque lawsuit. IBM is supposed to take it lying down?
I'm not convinced that mono infringes significantly more or stronger potentially-hostile patents than any other similarly complex piece of software.
It was enough to convince John Dragoon and Ron Hovesepian.
Given the choice between technology that is potentially more infringing than the other, which one would you pick?
I thought they only used it for a couple of trivial/perhiperal things?
For now. Perhaps you've forgotten Miguel's rantings about how it should be used throughout Gnome? Perhaps you forgot that Miguel works at Novell and that Novell has SuSE with which they can "differentiate their product" with mono (depending on how it's used) in a yet to be determined crucial application. This is not tinfoil. This is how companies work.
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Yeah, whatever. Perhaps you forgot that Qt is LGPL?
Also, unless you get mono exclusively from Novell, you are (potentially) infringing on Microsoft intellectual property. And Gnome has been adopting mono like it doesn't matter.
Yes, Gnome is less free now. Gnome fans totally miss the irony.
Rupert Murdoch needs to stop bitching and swim in his money like Scrooge McDuck.
What a fuckin' whiny motherfucker. Fuck him. Don't give him the attention his attention whoring self desires. Don't link stories about him here. If I see another story about him on slashdot, it will be too soon.
Someone needs to take him out with a cast iron frying pan.
And you don't have to look far to see that at least some anti-sex-ed types want people to suffer for having sex. Not all of them, but some do.
I would beg to differ and say it's the vast majority.
Let me introduce you to my mother, who always remarks, when she sees a condom manufacturing line on the television, that she would like to be the one that sticks pinpricks in the ends of the condoms as they come off the assembly line.
She's not alone in the slightest.
The anti-sex crowd is definitely vindictive and mean-spirited. Pregnancy is not a blessing. It's punishment for sin, and pleasure is always a sin.
No. RMS would not be RMS if he was pragmatic. He also wouldn't have created the GPL if he was pragmatic.
I used to be in the same camp as you, as a KDE user. I have seen the wisdom of his thinking now that KDE is now freer than GNOME and that GNOME has embraced Miguel's Trojan horse called mono.
>Make cigarettes more damaging to health, and let Darwin sort em out!
My parents used to smoke Kent cigarettes a long time ago in a galaxy far far away. I remembered as a kid that it advertised the cigs had the "Micronite Filter" on each pack.
Years later, I found out that the "Micronite" was blue asbestos.
Those active cameras are mostly as deterrent against crime;
That really hasn't been proven, and the dispute has been posted here on slashdot at least a few times.
Effective at Documenting Crime, Less Effective at Reducing It
But have they been effective at cutting crime?
According to a British Home Office review of dozens of studies analyzing the cameras' value at reducing crime, half showed a negative or negligible effect and the other half showed a negligible decrease of 4 percent at most. Researchers found that crime in Glasgow, Scotland, actually increased by 9 percent after cameras were installed there.
Please explain why they should not have cameras, especially when almost every city in the United States have laws against discharging fire arms within city limits?
Because in the UK, the home of the highest number of cameras per capita, the technology has not helped one bit. Crime is not down, and the cameras are used instead to look into peoples' windows (as been documented more than once). Cameras are an excuse for the flatfoots to get flat asses from sitting around all day.
In other words, impracticality and blatant misuse as entertainment.
That's why.
That's totally ignoring any sociological/political argument which I will not go into here because it will be like pissing into an ocean of piss.
If there was ever a music player on Linux that was worse than the worst versions of Amarok, it's Songbird. Nice ideas, but it never ever did work correctly for me, and it wasn't for lack of memory or processing power. I kept installing it and removing it from time to time to see how it was going.
It's like they never tried getting it to perform correctly on Linux. Oh well.
Maybe it works better on Windows, but I'll never know since I never use that unless I absolutely have to.
Somehow I'm going to work that into an argument about tea party activists.
There are people around who could conceivably confuse two similar-sounding nations and there are enough of them to make such an error plausible.
And over here, there is no shortage of stories of Europeans thinking that Halifax is within a reasonable driving distance to Vancouver or that Rochester, New York is somehow within a 10 minute's drive of New York City.
The US has no monopoly on ignorant people. At least we don't have football hooligans.
This is the way it's supposed to work. DNA is not a magic bullet (heh) for solving crimes.
So the Crown will have to use good old fashioned police work to prove the case, like finding the watch in either twin's possession and/or fingerprints on the broken glass. Even genetic twins have different fingerprints. If the Crown (or any other prosecutorial system based upon English Common Law) cannot do this, then they go free, as per the design of the system.
It's better to let a hundred guilty go free than to jail (or execute!) one innocent person.
while one middleman is removed, another is added. Thus, there isn't a lot of savings to pass on to the buyer.
As a customer this is not my problem.
The idea "but all this paper isn't needed and the bookstore don't get their cut anymore, it should be cheaaap!" doesn't really apply.
Yes it does. If there is an inefficiency that prevents the publisher from competitively offering books, then it's up to the publisher to remove that inefficiency, not for the customer to subsidize the publisher's broken business model.
That is, if you believe in actual free markets. Unfortunately, most "free marketers" are merely corporatists (like the publishers themselves) that think the customer's choices mean absolutely bupkis.
Customers to the media companies and publishers: IT'S NOT OUR PROBLEM YOU ARE INEFFICIENT. YOU FIX IT, ASSHOLES.
There is no reason why an ebook needs to cost more than a paperback, let alone 15 bucks. At least it can't be removed remotely from my reader. I suspect that brick & mortar book stores don't need to worry about their futures the way things are going.
Slashdot Mirror
Remember a while back they were claiming to have some triple-digit number of patents that the Linux kernel infringes on?
Yes, how can one forget?
IBM and TurboHercules debacle
Yes. TurboHercules is suing IBM in a SCO-esque lawsuit. IBM is supposed to take it lying down?
I'm not convinced that mono infringes significantly more or stronger potentially-hostile patents than any other similarly complex piece of software.
It was enough to convince John Dragoon and Ron Hovesepian.
Given the choice between technology that is potentially more infringing than the other, which one would you pick?
I thought they only used it for a couple of trivial/perhiperal things?
For now. Perhaps you've forgotten Miguel's rantings about how it should be used throughout Gnome? Perhaps you forgot that Miguel works at Novell and that Novell has SuSE with which they can "differentiate their product" with mono (depending on how it's used) in a yet to be determined crucial application. This is not tinfoil. This is how companies work.
snippage of insult
Yeah, whatever. Perhaps you forgot that Qt is LGPL?
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What's fud about it?
Novell signed a contract with Microsoft. It indemnified people who got mono from Novell from liability. It doesn't cover third parties.
You go find the clause that covers third parties and get back to me.
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Oh look, it's a BSD troll.
How cute.
*pats on head*
Now run along!
GIT!
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It's called the "Lesser" GPL for a reason.
Also, unless you get mono exclusively from Novell, you are (potentially) infringing on Microsoft intellectual property. And Gnome has been adopting mono like it doesn't matter.
Yes, Gnome is less free now. Gnome fans totally miss the irony.
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Can we kill off Gnome 3.0 too? How about getting rid of GTK+?
We especially need to get rid of Mono. Funny how Gnome is less free than KDE now.
Admiral Ackbar says "It's a trap!"
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Rupert Murdoch needs to stop bitching and swim in his money like Scrooge McDuck.
What a fuckin' whiny motherfucker. Fuck him. Don't give him the attention his attention whoring self desires. Don't link stories about him here. If I see another story about him on slashdot, it will be too soon.
Someone needs to take him out with a cast iron frying pan.
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It's the original CompuServ business model all over again!
We really have come full circle.
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And you don't have to look far to see that at least some anti-sex-ed types want people to suffer for having sex. Not all of them, but some do.
I would beg to differ and say it's the vast majority.
Let me introduce you to my mother, who always remarks, when she sees a condom manufacturing line on the television, that she would like to be the one that sticks pinpricks in the ends of the condoms as they come off the assembly line.
She's not alone in the slightest.
The anti-sex crowd is definitely vindictive and mean-spirited. Pregnancy is not a blessing. It's punishment for sin, and pleasure is always a sin.
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You didn't read the article.
You're totally wrong.
She has no rights. Not in this case.
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>pragmatic
No. RMS would not be RMS if he was pragmatic. He also wouldn't have created the GPL if he was pragmatic.
I used to be in the same camp as you, as a KDE user. I have seen the wisdom of his thinking now that KDE is now freer than GNOME and that GNOME has embraced Miguel's Trojan horse called mono.
Fuck pragmatism.
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>Make cigarettes more damaging to health, and let Darwin sort em out!
My parents used to smoke Kent cigarettes a long time ago in a galaxy far far away. I remembered as a kid that it advertised the cigs had the "Micronite Filter" on each pack.
Years later, I found out that the "Micronite" was blue asbestos.
Yep.
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I just clicked your link.
That's not a reference. That's a lone chart without context on a blog somewhere. No. Try again.
But for now, I'll buy it, because of this report which I stumbled upon:
www.homeoffice.gov.uk/rds/pdfs06/crime-statistics-independent-review-06.pdf
NCRS or BCS, which to believe?
I give up.
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Those active cameras are mostly as deterrent against crime;
That really hasn't been proven, and the dispute has been posted here on slashdot at least a few times.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3360287&page=2
They only appear to be helpful after the fact, and only if they're pointed in the correct direction when the crime occurred. (same article)
I could drag up more, but google is your friend.
since the entire mess around surveillance is in the wrong hands to create confidence with the general public.
That's because the right hands do not exist.
It's a flippant reply, but you know it's right.
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Please explain why they should not have cameras, especially when almost every city in the United States have laws against discharging fire arms within city limits?
Because in the UK, the home of the highest number of cameras per capita, the technology has not helped one bit. Crime is not down, and the cameras are used instead to look into peoples' windows (as been documented more than once). Cameras are an excuse for the flatfoots to get flat asses from sitting around all day.
In other words, impracticality and blatant misuse as entertainment.
That's why.
That's totally ignoring any sociological/political argument which I will not go into here because it will be like pissing into an ocean of piss.
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"Meanwhile, France and the UK and most of continental Europe do enforce gun control laws"
And meanwhile you *still* get situations like biker gangs in Denmark going at each other with shoulder fired AT4-HEAT antitank grenades.
Contrast and compare to Switzerland - an entire country that is armed to the teeth in every house across the land, and there isn't mayhem.
Gun control laws do absolutely nothing to stem violence, a fact that anti-gun people tend to ignore.
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>he hasn't heard of the media library pane in vlc
http://wiki.videolan.org/Media_Library
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If there was ever a music player on Linux that was worse than the worst versions of Amarok, it's Songbird. Nice ideas, but it never ever did work correctly for me, and it wasn't for lack of memory or processing power. I kept installing it and removing it from time to time to see how it was going.
It's like they never tried getting it to perform correctly on Linux. Oh well.
Maybe it works better on Windows, but I'll never know since I never use that unless I absolutely have to.
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politically active landscape painters.
Somehow I'm going to work that into an argument about tea party activists.
There are people around who could conceivably confuse two similar-sounding nations and there are enough of them to make such an error plausible.
And over here, there is no shortage of stories of Europeans thinking that Halifax is within a reasonable driving distance to Vancouver or that Rochester, New York is somehow within a 10 minute's drive of New York City.
The US has no monopoly on ignorant people. At least we don't have football hooligans.
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As if someone who truly confuses Austria with Australia can actually spell Schickelgruber, or even know the name.
And yes, it is perfectly reasonable to assume geographic ineptitude on any English-speaking discussion platform, unfortunately.
Only if you want to look like a bigot.
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I find it disturbing you don't get the joke. :-D
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Fritzl.
Bodybuilders that become governors of Cal-e-forn-ee-yah.
Chancellors name Schickelgruber.
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Did you even bother to read the rest of the message?
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This is the way it's supposed to work. DNA is not a magic bullet (heh) for solving crimes.
So the Crown will have to use good old fashioned police work to prove the case, like finding the watch in either twin's possession and/or fingerprints on the broken glass. Even genetic twins have different fingerprints. If the Crown (or any other prosecutorial system based upon English Common Law) cannot do this, then they go free, as per the design of the system.
It's better to let a hundred guilty go free than to jail (or execute!) one innocent person.
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while one middleman is removed, another is added. Thus, there isn't a lot of savings to pass on to the buyer.
As a customer this is not my problem.
The idea "but all this paper isn't needed and the bookstore don't get their cut anymore, it should be cheaaap!" doesn't really apply.
Yes it does. If there is an inefficiency that prevents the publisher from competitively offering books, then it's up to the publisher to remove that inefficiency, not for the customer to subsidize the publisher's broken business model.
That is, if you believe in actual free markets. Unfortunately, most "free marketers" are merely corporatists (like the publishers themselves) that think the customer's choices mean absolutely bupkis.
Customers to the media companies and publishers: IT'S NOT OUR PROBLEM YOU ARE INEFFICIENT. YOU FIX IT, ASSHOLES.
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14.99! Yay! I'll buy the PAPERBACK!
There is no reason why an ebook needs to cost more than a paperback, let alone 15 bucks. At least it can't be removed remotely from my reader. I suspect that brick & mortar book stores don't need to worry about their futures the way things are going.
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