DOOM was 16MB. A whole game in 3D with full on-the-fly animation and sound effects and music. That was amazing for the time when Myst was a game that served up mostly static images.
A web page mostly serves up text, static images, and sometimes video.
Yet this needs 16MB to be downloaded to be functional, somehow.
>somewhat dysfunctional
Try completely dysfunctional
Oh, and to the assholes who put in autoplay video that you can't turn off/pause: die. in. a. fire. Your pages actually last 5 seconds in my browser tab, and I'm sure this is the other case with people who are either on mobile, or just simply want to be quiet.
Ever go to a bar and not drink, but be there because your friends or family are? It happens all the time (I do this) and if you think you can't go to a bar and not drink, it's you who has the problem.
No, the real problem is people like you assuming "we can't do it!" and repeating that phrase to all and sundry, which they hear enough of which that they are truly convinced that we can't.
Like Clinton did when asked about universal health coverage. She literally laughed it off. She said progressives (you know, the people who espouse the values I listed previously) were a bunch of basement dwellers.
Because status-quo is so fucking great. Funny how I predicted that the DNC would get their comeuppance should they ignore the anger behind both the bernie and trump campaigns. This was during the NH primary - me to a Time reporter.
>you weren't vigilant enough
*I* was. But when your so-called liberal party puts in a right winger (republicanism in drag, exemplified by Clinton picking Tim Kaine as her running mate to/really/ tell the progressives she didn't need our votes) against another right winger, people tend to stay home. And so they did, in droves.
It's also not my fault that we have propaganda channels broadcasting nonsense 24/7. Take it up with the assholes with the money backing them.
And how do you propose to fix society so it's not a "shit heap?" Extra points if you can also figure out what we should do with people with mental disorders until you "fix society?" How are you going to make it that nobody is in a bad relationship, loses their job, has a catastrophic medical event that significantly impacts their daily lives, and nobody experiences inconsolable grief over someone close to them dying?
Oh hay, it's a false dichotomy/and/ a straw-man argument all in one!
You can improve society so that when things like you posted don't harm people/as much/ as they do today. It's a spectrum, not a binary state.
Improve availability of education Relax or eliminate victimless-crime statutes Social safety net - losing a job should not be life or family-threatening. Medical safety net - Universal healthcare, like the rest of the developed nations have. Decent infrastructure so companies can thrive instead of their trucks being dumped in a river because a bridge collapsed, for example. Mandatory vacation time > 1.5 weeks USians Enforce labor laws.
All of these things contribute to societal and mental health. But we can't have that/here/ because that's SOCIALIZUM!#@$!@#$@#$!
Maybe it's because in Denmark, you can go to school and get a stipend on top of it. Also, there isn't a race-to-the-bottom with wages. Also, there is a social and medical safety net.
And bars don't close at 1am like they do here.
-- BMO
"I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy."
>suitable for kids ages 6 to 36 (3 years) months old
At two years, a throw-away used laptop or cheap Chinese tablet is better. Especially when they already know how to find Pingu on Youtube.
-- BMO
P.S. It still blows my mind that kids these days will never know a time before the existence of a computer in the home, let alone one you can put in your pocket that happens to make phone calls as an adjunct function.
>He might have the mindset of , damn the torpedoes, I'm going to do what I wish in my 4 years, and then, hell with political currency left over to get elected.
>I think that would actually be a nice bit of fresh air....
The problem is that Trump is a moron. Hell, the entire clown-car of Republicans this cycle was a mish-mash of morons, wannabes, absolute psychopaths, and "low energy" candidates. Compared to every one of them, a dead Richard Nixon is a savant. I would have actually voted for a Zombie Nixon for President, given the field of candidates. Indeed, given a choice between Trump, Clinton, and Zombie Nixon, I'd have to go with Zombie Nixon. I voted for Jill because non-swing state and "fuck this shit." I kinda regret not voting for Vermin Supreme. I'd like a pony to give to the grandkids.
The difference between Trump and the rest of the clown-car was that Trump, like Reagan, knows how to play the media. Every single other candidate on the R side didn't, including Cruz (because after listening to him for more than a minute, anyone with functioning brain cells/hates/ him (this includes his colleagues in the Senate)).
He talked big, had a "vision" to sell (for various values of "vision" > 0)and basically re-ran Reagan's "Morning in America" meme in his own way. Contrasted to Clinton's "I'm not him" campaign, with no vision *at all* of the future except "more of the same", it's no wonder why she lost the campaign. That's what makes this Russian nonsense so fucking laughable - Clinton ran one of the most uninspiring campaigns I've seen in my half-century of life. It's not that Trump won, Clinton LOST to a know-nothing, incurious psychopath (I think Clinton is also a psychopath of a sort - she just hides it better) because she had nothing to sell.
To a low-information voter, Trump is a breath of fresh air, for sure, compared to Clinton. "No one in this world, so far as I know - and I have researched the records for years, and employed agents to help me - has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people. Nor has anyone ever lost public office thereby." -- Mencken. But to those of us who actually give a shit about what world we leave to our grandchildren, the times ahead look to be "Chinese Curse" interesting.
The split second decision is to "grit your teeth and keep driving" because swerving at speed to avoid an animal that will probably run the same direction you're swerving (toast usually lands on the floor with the butter side down law of the universe) will probably result in you flattening the animal anyway (Squirrel Squares by Road Ready Flat Snacks (TM)) and your car running into a tree, roadside obstacle, parked car, midget, donkey, midget donkey, parked midget, roadside carnival midget riding a donkey, etc.
>In an online political discussion, one conservative complained about Obama's alleged excess snooping. I pointed out that Bush and Trump are pretty much pro-snoopers also.
I'm about as liberal as they come.
I am more than disappointed by Obama's expansion of domestic spying. I am also more than disappointed by Obama's removal of due process and Habeas Corpus - Tangerine Bolen is in my Facebook friends list (because she's a good friend of my wife).
>How can *one* piece of software have so many fucking critical vulnerabilities over the years?
Because it's spaghetti code. It's so bad that the single Linux maintainer flipped his shit years ago and wrote an angry blog post about it. I tried looking for the article, but that is too much of a needle/haystack problem.
Apparently it's been a fucking mess from the beginning.
>All they're doing is hiring critical US journalists and satirical comedians to report facts however they want to (as long as they're not critical of Putin or the Kremlin). It's not that hard to do.
RT, DW, BBC, Al-Jazz, etc., don't have to make shit up to make the US look bad. This "hurr the Russians were fucking up our election" bullshit pales in comparison to the actual shenanigans (seals on WI voting machines *visibly* broken, the latest news... and going back to the restriction on voting venues in many states, even my home state, Rhode Island, during the primaries, as just two examples off the top of my head) that took place during the election season.
And the US media mindlessly repeating Clinton gas lighting was particularly infuriating to Bernie voters so much that much of them stayed home, because... "fuckit, we don't need your vote" and "deplorables."
The only people who buy this "russian" nonsense are low-information people that get their news/only/ from the OTA broadcast networks. Or something. I don't know. Whoever keeps forcing this issue expects everyone to be dumb, I guess.
And one of the latest "we don't fucking get it" things is that Nancy Pelosi is now Minority Leader. Because the public didn't shout loudly enough that they're tired of the same old shit by electing Trump.
If you think that NPR is left wing, you are a fucking idiot. It hasn't been left wing since the end of the Clinton administration. Indeed, it has become completely corporatist since then.
There isn't any"left wing" on media today except outside of the us and random YouTube channels. It's all corporate oriented programming, especially considering that the mainstream media is owned by just a handful of companies.
Lastly, the Koch brothers are major donors to NPR.
>OMG, I don't have to make anybody do absolutely anything! Free market is literally one single property: absence of government regulations, nothing else.
No it isn't. Go crack open a textbook. Even though I disagree with the Austrian school and the Chicago school, which is where modern "free market" economics comes from, you need to read up on them and their theories. And it's obvious you've never even taken a survey-level macroeconomics course.
>I know exactly where I stand and my position
I know where you stand too, and down that path lies madness for society.
>I only believe in self interest. Self interest. Self interest. Self interest. Self interest. Self interest.
Yeah? So what? People go against their own self-interest all the fucking time. They are also irrational. All the fucking time they are irrational - do I even have to mention "The Madness of Crowds"? Fucking free-market theory/depends on/ everyone acting in their own self-interest - sellers and buyers all. But you know what?
YOU CAN'T HAVE A FREE MARKET UNDER THOSE CONDITIONS BECAUSE THAT'S NOT HOW REAL PEOPLE WORK AND IF YOU TRY TO MAKE THEM WORK THAT WAY, CONGRATULATIONS, YOU ARE THE TYRANT.
And that's the thing - people espousing free-market theory and insist on society working that way ignore human behavior outright and say "things would be just fine if everyone did X." Freemarketism is an "ism" that people "believe in" like you "believe in" - it's not something that can ever exist. It's religion. It's faith. It's a fictional idealized thing that if you believe that it can actually ever happen, you should also believe in frictionless inclined planes in physics, which also don't exist, and in this universe, can't.
>private enforcement
You mean like the fucking Pinkertons during the Carnegie steel strike?
So instead of one tyrant, you want thousands of tyrants. Brilliant.
>you absolutely do need private means of protecting yourself, and this includes private police, private insurance, private courts, weapons as well
This is warlordism. You want warlords, with their own little fiefdoms, probably imagining yourself as one of them.
>I see private courts, competing with each other as the only legitimate courts that can address the issue of government corruption.
What part of society makes arbitration (private courts) enforceable?
You can have courts without enforcement, but then the losers in court would just give it the middle finger and walk away. The only way this would work is if everyone cooperates voluntarily.
The problem with libertarianism, anarchism, communism, *ism is "if people only behaved the way I told them to, this idea would work."
The famous last words of every tyrant.
The only way I can see is to be practical and try your best at good governance (being fair/not oppressive/solving real problems). That/doesn't/ require a specific ideal to be followed, but it does require some sort of ethics among politicians, and that politicians that violate those ethics be punished.
" The actual enemy is the government and while businesses can create problems, including environmental problems, at least it is possible to fight them in court"
What part of society are courts?
Where are laws made that allow you to sue in court and have the court's findings enforced?
If you think government is the enemy, go look at places where there is ineffective government and no government. They're hellholes. They're places where you either become a warlord or are beholden to a warlord.
Slashdot Mirror
"90 percent of science fiction is crud because 90 percent of anything is crud."
So to apply that to this number, there are only 45-46 "good" shows to watch.
And this is why a bajillion channels on Cable are useless.
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*runs away screaming"
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That should have a "less than" sign in front of the "5 seconds"
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>somewhat dysfunctional
DOOM was 16MB. A whole game in 3D with full on-the-fly animation and sound effects and music. That was amazing for the time when Myst was a game that served up mostly static images.
A web page mostly serves up text, static images, and sometimes video.
Yet this needs 16MB to be downloaded to be functional, somehow.
>somewhat dysfunctional
Try completely dysfunctional
Oh, and to the assholes who put in autoplay video that you can't turn off/pause: die. in. a. fire. Your pages actually last 5 seconds in my browser tab, and I'm sure this is the other case with people who are either on mobile, or just simply want to be quiet.
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>perfect
We're talking about Microsoft here...
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Ever go to a bar and not drink, but be there because your friends or family are? It happens all the time (I do this) and if you think you can't go to a bar and not drink, it's you who has the problem.
Good night, sir.
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It's too bad that Slashdot limits relationship changes, because you're an asshole.
No, really, you are. Putting my money where my mouth is? I did that multiple times this election season.
Fuck you.
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No, the real problem is people like you assuming "we can't do it!" and repeating that phrase to all and sundry, which they hear enough of which that they are truly convinced that we can't.
Like Clinton did when asked about universal health coverage. She literally laughed it off. She said progressives (you know, the people who espouse the values I listed previously) were a bunch of basement dwellers.
Because status-quo is so fucking great. Funny how I predicted that the DNC would get their comeuppance should they ignore the anger behind both the bernie and trump campaigns. This was during the NH primary - me to a Time reporter.
>you weren't vigilant enough
*I* was. But when your so-called liberal party puts in a right winger (republicanism in drag, exemplified by Clinton picking Tim Kaine as her running mate to /really/ tell the progressives she didn't need our votes) against another right winger, people tend to stay home. And so they did, in droves.
It's also not my fault that we have propaganda channels broadcasting nonsense 24/7. Take it up with the assholes with the money backing them.
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"but right now there's no way to get from here to there in the USA."
Re-read this until you figure out what the real problem is.
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I accidentally a preposition and end of sentence, sue me.
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And how do you propose to fix society so it's not a "shit heap?" Extra points if you can also figure out what we should do with people with mental disorders until you "fix society?" How are you going to make it that nobody is in a bad relationship, loses their job, has a catastrophic medical event that significantly impacts their daily lives, and nobody experiences inconsolable grief over someone close to them dying?
Oh hay, it's a false dichotomy /and/ a straw-man argument all in one!
You can improve society so that when things like you posted don't harm people /as much/ as they do today. It's a spectrum, not a binary state.
Improve availability of education
Relax or eliminate victimless-crime statutes
Social safety net - losing a job should not be life or family-threatening.
Medical safety net - Universal healthcare, like the rest of the developed nations have.
Decent infrastructure so companies can thrive instead of their trucks being dumped in a river because a bridge collapsed, for example.
Mandatory vacation time > 1.5 weeks USians
Enforce labor laws.
All of these things contribute to societal and mental health. But we can't have that /here/ because that's SOCIALIZUM!#@$!@#$@#$!
Come back when you get a clue.
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Maybe it's because in Denmark, you can go to school and get a stipend on top of it. Also, there isn't a race-to-the-bottom with wages. Also, there is a social and medical safety net.
And bars don't close at 1am like they do here.
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"I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy."
Sure....
And then you have bad weather and the LEOs can't fly their drones and suddenly the network works.
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>suitable for kids ages 6 to 36 (3 years) months old
At two years, a throw-away used laptop or cheap Chinese tablet is better. Especially when they already know how to find Pingu on Youtube.
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P.S. It still blows my mind that kids these days will never know a time before the existence of a computer in the home, let alone one you can put in your pocket that happens to make phone calls as an adjunct function.
>He might have the mindset of , damn the torpedoes, I'm going to do what I wish in my 4 years, and then, hell with political currency left over to get elected.
>I think that would actually be a nice bit of fresh air....
The problem is that Trump is a moron. Hell, the entire clown-car of Republicans this cycle was a mish-mash of morons, wannabes, absolute psychopaths, and "low energy" candidates. Compared to every one of them, a dead Richard Nixon is a savant. I would have actually voted for a Zombie Nixon for President, given the field of candidates. Indeed, given a choice between Trump, Clinton, and Zombie Nixon, I'd have to go with Zombie Nixon. I voted for Jill because non-swing state and "fuck this shit." I kinda regret not voting for Vermin Supreme. I'd like a pony to give to the grandkids.
The difference between Trump and the rest of the clown-car was that Trump, like Reagan, knows how to play the media. Every single other candidate on the R side didn't, including Cruz (because after listening to him for more than a minute, anyone with functioning brain cells /hates/ him (this includes his colleagues in the Senate)).
He talked big, had a "vision" to sell (for various values of "vision" > 0)and basically re-ran Reagan's "Morning in America" meme in his own way. Contrasted to Clinton's "I'm not him" campaign, with no vision *at all* of the future except "more of the same", it's no wonder why she lost the campaign. That's what makes this Russian nonsense so fucking laughable - Clinton ran one of the most uninspiring campaigns I've seen in my half-century of life. It's not that Trump won, Clinton LOST to a know-nothing, incurious psychopath (I think Clinton is also a psychopath of a sort - she just hides it better) because she had nothing to sell.
To a low-information voter, Trump is a breath of fresh air, for sure, compared to Clinton. "No one in this world, so far as I know - and I have researched the records for years, and employed agents to help me - has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people. Nor has anyone ever lost public office thereby." -- Mencken. But to those of us who actually give a shit about what world we leave to our grandchildren, the times ahead look to be "Chinese Curse" interesting.
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Are you me? Nearly exact same scenario, except that Windows didn't need a virus to lose everything. It just needed to puke while backing up my files.
I rage quitted Windows and never looked back.
Best rage quit ever.
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The split second decision is to "grit your teeth and keep driving" because swerving at speed to avoid an animal that will probably run the same direction you're swerving (toast usually lands on the floor with the butter side down law of the universe) will probably result in you flattening the animal anyway (Squirrel Squares by Road Ready Flat Snacks (TM)) and your car running into a tree, roadside obstacle, parked car, midget, donkey, midget donkey, parked midget, roadside carnival midget riding a donkey, etc.
I don't know why that sentence ended that way.
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>In an online political discussion, one conservative complained about Obama's alleged excess snooping. I pointed out that Bush and Trump are pretty much pro-snoopers also.
I'm about as liberal as they come.
I am more than disappointed by Obama's expansion of domestic spying. I am also more than disappointed by Obama's removal of due process and Habeas Corpus - Tangerine Bolen is in my Facebook friends list (because she's a good friend of my wife).
This is her:
https://www.theguardian.com/co...
There are a shitload of us over on the left who are fucking pissed. It's not just conservatives.
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>How can *one* piece of software have so many fucking critical vulnerabilities over the years?
Because it's spaghetti code. It's so bad that the single Linux maintainer flipped his shit years ago and wrote an angry blog post about it. I tried looking for the article, but that is too much of a needle/haystack problem.
Apparently it's been a fucking mess from the beginning.
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>All they're doing is hiring critical US journalists and satirical comedians to report facts however they want to (as long as they're not critical of Putin or the Kremlin). It's not that hard to do.
RT, DW, BBC, Al-Jazz, etc., don't have to make shit up to make the US look bad. This "hurr the Russians were fucking up our election" bullshit pales in comparison to the actual shenanigans (seals on WI voting machines *visibly* broken, the latest news... and going back to the restriction on voting venues in many states, even my home state, Rhode Island, during the primaries, as just two examples off the top of my head) that took place during the election season.
And the US media mindlessly repeating Clinton gas lighting was particularly infuriating to Bernie voters so much that much of them stayed home, because ... "fuckit, we don't need your vote" and "deplorables."
The only people who buy this "russian" nonsense are low-information people that get their news /only/ from the OTA broadcast networks. Or something. I don't know. Whoever keeps forcing this issue expects everyone to be dumb, I guess.
And one of the latest "we don't fucking get it" things is that Nancy Pelosi is now Minority Leader. Because the public didn't shout loudly enough that they're tired of the same old shit by electing Trump.
So yeah, it's all the fault of the Russians.
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>Left-wing government-funded "news" service
If you think that NPR is left wing, you are a fucking idiot. It hasn't been left wing since the end of the Clinton administration. Indeed, it has become completely corporatist since then.
There isn't any"left wing" on media today except outside of the us and random YouTube channels. It's all corporate oriented programming, especially considering that the mainstream media is owned by just a handful of companies.
Lastly, the Koch brothers are major donors to NPR.
Wake the fuck up.
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>OMG, I don't have to make anybody do absolutely anything! Free market is literally one single property: absence of government regulations, nothing else.
No it isn't. Go crack open a textbook. Even though I disagree with the Austrian school and the Chicago school, which is where modern "free market" economics comes from, you need to read up on them and their theories. And it's obvious you've never even taken a survey-level macroeconomics course.
>I know exactly where I stand and my position
I know where you stand too, and down that path lies madness for society.
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>I only believe in self interest. Self interest. Self interest. Self interest. Self interest. Self interest.
Yeah? So what? People go against their own self-interest all the fucking time. They are also irrational. All the fucking time they are irrational - do I even have to mention "The Madness of Crowds"? Fucking free-market theory /depends on/ everyone acting in their own self-interest - sellers and buyers all. But you know what?
YOU CAN'T HAVE A FREE MARKET UNDER THOSE CONDITIONS BECAUSE THAT'S NOT HOW REAL PEOPLE WORK AND IF YOU TRY TO MAKE THEM WORK THAT WAY, CONGRATULATIONS, YOU ARE THE TYRANT.
And that's the thing - people espousing free-market theory and insist on society working that way ignore human behavior outright and say "things would be just fine if everyone did X." Freemarketism is an "ism" that people "believe in" like you "believe in" - it's not something that can ever exist. It's religion. It's faith. It's a fictional idealized thing that if you believe that it can actually ever happen, you should also believe in frictionless inclined planes in physics, which also don't exist, and in this universe, can't.
>private enforcement
You mean like the fucking Pinkertons during the Carnegie steel strike?
So instead of one tyrant, you want thousands of tyrants. Brilliant.
>you absolutely do need private means of protecting yourself, and this includes private police, private insurance, private courts, weapons as well
This is warlordism. You want warlords, with their own little fiefdoms, probably imagining yourself as one of them.
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>I see private courts, competing with each other as the only legitimate courts that can address the issue of government corruption.
What part of society makes arbitration (private courts) enforceable?
You can have courts without enforcement, but then the losers in court would just give it the middle finger and walk away. The only way this would work is if everyone cooperates voluntarily.
The problem with libertarianism, anarchism, communism, *ism is "if people only behaved the way I told them to, this idea would work."
The famous last words of every tyrant.
The only way I can see is to be practical and try your best at good governance (being fair/not oppressive/solving real problems). That /doesn't/ require a specific ideal to be followed, but it does require some sort of ethics among politicians, and that politicians that violate those ethics be punished.
Which is asking too much. So ... fuckit.
And people wonder why Trump got elected.
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" The actual enemy is the government and while businesses can create problems, including environmental problems, at least it is possible to fight them in court"
What part of society are courts?
Where are laws made that allow you to sue in court and have the court's findings enforced?
If you think government is the enemy, go look at places where there is ineffective government and no government. They're hellholes. They're places where you either become a warlord or are beholden to a warlord.
Go live in Somalia.
Libertarians are so stupid.
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