>That's the gripe so many have with Unity/etc - people feel it makes it hard for them to work the way they want to work.
So what? I've used Unity and it's not bad and it's actually great for a laptop. The criticism is way out of proportion. Add to this that the people most vocal about Unity are also the ones most capable of completely ignoring it and installing another DE/WM. Listening to the critics, you'd think that Ubuntu removed all other options, which they didn't, and they're still there in the repositories.
I've done my time pounding on the bare metal back last century. The last fucking thing on my mind is having to edit xorg.conf to get the video settings right, which, as a singular example, I've done more than I can recall. Ubuntu does a pretty good job of getting drivers right, and I can dump all of Unity for KDE in a couple of minutes. It's not difficult. Which brings me to my other gripe: If you can't figure out how to change the default desktop, but rather migrate to an entire different distribution because of the default desktop, you're doing it completely wrong and should re-evaluate why you're using anything other than Windows or OSX.
Calling out a troll is not unintelligent. It's a well worn troll to say that Linux applications have weird names, because in other operating systems, there are weird names for other programs.
Come on, how descriptive is Chrome, Opera, or Firefox? Would you be able to tell that those applications are web browsers just by their names? Of course not.
It was a troll. You're somehow butthurt that someone disagreed with your opinion.
CONQUISTADOR: Welcome to New Spain! This is your new Father - Father Corona. FATHER CORONA: Pax vneuti nicutm! down on your knees, now! D'ye recognize what I'm holidn' over your head, lads? INDIAN: It's a Cross. The Symbol of the Quartering of the Universe into Active and Passive Principles. FATHER CORONA: God have mercy on their heathen souls! CONQUISTADOR: What the Father means is - what is the Cross made of? Gold! Have you got any?
For any amount of freeloaders, you will get people who want to fix things. This is my biggest complaint at people who dislike Ubuntu and other distros that make Linux "easy." Ubuntu and the other easy distros get fresh-meat, and eventually some of that fresh meat becomes part of the coding community.
Without fresh-meat, Linux would regress to less than a hobbyist operating system, and one pointed and laughed at as a waste of time.
The "elitists" are the ones who would eventually kill Linux.
The founders of the US didn't want direct democracy because they were (rightly) afraid of rule by the uneducated mob.
Unfortunately, the uneducated mob elects uneducated representatives, or worse, people who should know better, but turn off their "that's fucking stupid" filter because "I owe this guy a favor."
I don't know what to replace what we've got, but clearly representative democracy has failed in many ways.
Nikon could skirt the patent by using EXT2/3 on their disks and include a driver for EXT2/3 for Windows and OSX. Because such things already exist. It's not like Windows users aren't used to installing drivers already.
But that makes too much sense.
Why device manufacturers insist on using VFAT and FAT64 boggles my mind.
This whole situation is just pure laziness, and a reason why people should point and laugh at Nikon for paying danegeld.
The problem with danegeld is that you never get rid of the Dane.
Paying off Microsoft is the absolutely wrong "solution" to this and only emboldens Microsoft. Microsoft can point at all these people paying danegeld and say "hey, you have to pay too."
It's why we all got mad at people who paid SCO for their extortion.
Fuck Microsoft, but also fuck Nikon for financing their extortion.
Then came pop-ups. Pop-unders. Flash adds. Ads with music. Ads that would make my cockatiel go into convulsion, and start to drool and chase the neighbor's cat. And I have to tell you, my neighbor really loves her cat. And being chased by a drooling cockatiel will really humiliate a cat, and all dogs will start making fun of it. Not an idea situation.
What you left out of that extensive list was malware served up through ad networks. It's not enough to go to "trusted sites" but you have to trust their ad servers too. On one site I still frequent, there was an ad serving up malware for an exploit in Windows. They have since clamped down on who their ad server is, but after that people installed adblock plus as a security measure.
Forge of God Eon Blood Music Dead Lines (his one ghost story).
I'd pay to see all those. I just mentioned it and the discussion was that a lot of Blood Music is internal dialog and it would be hard to represent without making it boring.
I think Dead Lines could be done in a Poltergeist-esque manner and is probably the easiest to do out of all of them.
You can certainly install the Java for Chrome on Macintosh, but you are limited to Java 6 as the most recent. Google provides a link to the instructions on how to do this.
I can't speak to the views of the parent poster, but I think it's entirely possible to think someone is a drooling moron, and not actually hate him.
This is true, but at some point a line is crossed.
I would have no problem with comparative religion classes as an elective in public schools as a concentration in sociology and cultural anthropology. But trying to enshrine religious philosophy in law as science is a road that has been travelled before and has led to the deaths of many for their beliefs. What strikes me is that a lot of people who should know better, because of the history of their own religion (Southern Baptists - go read up on the history of the Baptist church and the persecution of its adherents), are some of the ones who push for a state religion. The mind boggles at the doublethink.
There are many, many reasons why Jefferson and Madison erected a "wall of separation" that started with Roger Williams, Anne Hutchinson, and William Penn in the US and frankly I agree with the subject that wilfully violating the First Amendment is a kind of treason.
The problem is that if you run out of gas, you curse and call AAA. They'll stop by and give you a gallon of gas, which will probably get you to the nearest gas station. From there you can add more gasoline and go on your merry way. Maybe a half-hour of inconvenience, depending on where you are.
Half an hour, you say? HAHAHAHAHA!
I can tell you right now that I *know* that you've never had to call AAA.
Ever. In your entire life.
Because it's alway45 minutes and up to "whenever the tow truck driver gets to you" even in an urban, civilized area. It's not laziness, it's just that there are so many people with AAA cards and not enough tow drivers.
Argue with them on substance, make them agree based on their own values. Learn about their religion and support your own views with scripture.
I have actually done this. I have relied upon the writings of learned philosophers such as Roger Williams against literalism and that the hypocrisy of state endorsement of religion and state religions in general, "stinks in the nostrils of God." And you know what? Legislators who propose laws like this deserve derision. They deserve ridicule. Because they have violated their oaths of office. ID is a purely *religious* philosophy. It's not science. It's a *particular* version of "christian" philosophy. Attempting to enshrine it in law as science is an endorsement of a particular *brand* of christianity over all others.
State legislators in Missouri swear to uphold both the Missouri and US constitutions. And since the establishment clause was deliberately designed as a wall of separation (see Jefferson's letter to the Danbury Baptists and Madison's letter to Livingston), you really can't get any worse in violating the oath of office by proposing laws like this.
See, we don't live in a democracy here. We don't have 50%+1 mob rule. We have a republic. Elected officials are supposed to use their fucking brains and say "no, that's fucking stupid and illegal, try again, asshole."
Between 40 and 50 percent of everyone believes in the Genesis story as literal truth depending on the poll. It's been that way for 50 years. The last Gallup survey had it somewhere around 46-48 percent.
What is striking is that over the decades, this number has not budged much.
1 in 5 adults and 1 in 3 under 30 aren't enough to stem the tide of derp.
Although the mean score on the Index of Genetic Literacy was slightly higher in the United States than the nine European countries combined, results from another 2005 U.S. study show that substantial numbers of American adults are confused about some of the core ideas related to 20th- and 21stcentury biology. When presented with a description of natural selection that omits the word evolution, 78% of adults agreed to a description of the evolution of plants and animals (see table S2 in SOM). But, 62% of adults in the same study believed that God created humans as whole persons without any evolutionary development.
Death throes of religious conservatism? I think not.
>Maybe they just know roughly how many they expect to sell, and stock accordingly?
That just means that Microsoft doesn't believe in its own product.
If you really believe that your product will sell and people will stand in line for it, like they stood in line for Windows 95, and you've got the cash, you should at least make enough to fill the pre-orders and a couple of month's retail orders. It's not like Microsoft is hurting for cash for manufacturing and it's not like they don't have millions to throw at marketing research to find out the actual demand. There are so many things wrong with this "shortage" it doesn't pass the sniff test.
>Really, why?
Schadenfreude is fun. If you step on the backs of people with your boots on the way up, expect kicks on the way down. They deserve all the derision they get.
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>That's the gripe so many have with Unity/etc - people feel it makes it hard for them to work the way they want to work.
So what? I've used Unity and it's not bad and it's actually great for a laptop. The criticism is way out of proportion. Add to this that the people most vocal about Unity are also the ones most capable of completely ignoring it and installing another DE/WM. Listening to the critics, you'd think that Ubuntu removed all other options, which they didn't, and they're still there in the repositories.
I've done my time pounding on the bare metal back last century. The last fucking thing on my mind is having to edit xorg.conf to get the video settings right, which, as a singular example, I've done more than I can recall. Ubuntu does a pretty good job of getting drivers right, and I can dump all of Unity for KDE in a couple of minutes. It's not difficult. Which brings me to my other gripe: If you can't figure out how to change the default desktop, but rather migrate to an entire different distribution because of the default desktop, you're doing it completely wrong and should re-evaluate why you're using anything other than Windows or OSX.
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Calling out a troll is not unintelligent. It's a well worn troll to say that Linux applications have weird names, because in other operating systems, there are weird names for other programs.
Come on, how descriptive is Chrome, Opera, or Firefox? Would you be able to tell that those applications are web browsers just by their names? Of course not.
It was a troll. You're somehow butthurt that someone disagreed with your opinion.
You're crazy.
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>I doubt any "elitists" actually exist - that is a bit of a straw man.
You gotta be kidding me. I've run into them since the days of when people would criticize Caldera for having an easy installer.
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>Bowel Movement, Original
It's like I'm really in middle school.
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CONQUISTADOR: Welcome to New Spain! This is your new Father - Father Corona.
FATHER CORONA: Pax vneuti nicutm! down on your knees, now! D'ye recognize what I'm holidn' over your head, lads?
INDIAN: It's a Cross. The Symbol of the Quartering of the Universe into Active and Passive Principles.
FATHER CORONA: God have mercy on their heathen souls!
CONQUISTADOR: What the Father means is - what is the Cross made of? Gold! Have you got any?
But then "Celestia" as the name of an astronomy program isn't as much of the stretch you made.
Try again.
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Why not use simple and descriptive language?
Because "Excel" is just as descriptive?
Look. Look at the troll and laugh.
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For any amount of freeloaders, you will get people who want to fix things. This is my biggest complaint at people who dislike Ubuntu and other distros that make Linux "easy." Ubuntu and the other easy distros get fresh-meat, and eventually some of that fresh meat becomes part of the coding community.
Without fresh-meat, Linux would regress to less than a hobbyist operating system, and one pointed and laughed at as a waste of time.
The "elitists" are the ones who would eventually kill Linux.
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The founders of the US didn't want direct democracy because they were (rightly) afraid of rule by the uneducated mob.
Unfortunately, the uneducated mob elects uneducated representatives, or worse, people who should know better, but turn off their "that's fucking stupid" filter because "I owe this guy a favor."
I don't know what to replace what we've got, but clearly representative democracy has failed in many ways.
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> and in response has introduced a bill that would ban all aerial photography in the state.
So land surveyors and photogrammetrists are the enemy now?
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Franklin: "There, it's done and printed! The first American dollar bill! What do you think of it Tom?"
Jefferson: "It's too big...I mean, really, an 8x10 of George, it's hard to put in your wallet."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL01B5DC0C984EFA2D&feature=player_detailpage&v=o2v9A-PZ5wA#t=297s
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Nikon could skirt the patent by using EXT2/3 on their disks and include a driver for EXT2/3 for Windows and OSX. Because such things already exist. It's not like Windows users aren't used to installing drivers already.
But that makes too much sense.
Why device manufacturers insist on using VFAT and FAT64 boggles my mind.
This whole situation is just pure laziness, and a reason why people should point and laugh at Nikon for paying danegeld.
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>Help me understand - you are mad at the victim?
The problem with danegeld is that you never get rid of the Dane.
Paying off Microsoft is the absolutely wrong "solution" to this and only emboldens Microsoft. Microsoft can point at all these people paying danegeld and say "hey, you have to pay too."
It's why we all got mad at people who paid SCO for their extortion.
Fuck Microsoft, but also fuck Nikon for financing their extortion.
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Then came pop-ups. Pop-unders. Flash adds. Ads with music. Ads that would make my cockatiel go into convulsion, and start to drool and chase the neighbor's cat. And I have to tell you, my neighbor really loves her cat. And being chased by a drooling cockatiel will really humiliate a cat, and all dogs will start making fun of it. Not an idea situation.
What you left out of that extensive list was malware served up through ad networks. It's not enough to go to "trusted sites" but you have to trust their ad servers too. On one site I still frequent, there was an ad serving up malware for an exploit in Windows. They have since clamped down on who their ad server is, but after that people installed adblock plus as a security measure.
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Forge of God
Eon
Blood Music
Dead Lines (his one ghost story).
I'd pay to see all those. I just mentioned it and the discussion was that a lot of Blood Music is internal dialog and it would be hard to represent without making it boring.
I think Dead Lines could be done in a Poltergeist-esque manner and is probably the easiest to do out of all of them.
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You can certainly install the Java for Chrome on Macintosh, but you are limited to Java 6 as the most recent. Google provides a link to the instructions on how to do this.
http://support.google.com/chrome/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=2429779
which links to...
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5559?viewlocale=en_US
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I can't speak to the views of the parent poster, but I think it's entirely possible to think someone is a drooling moron, and not actually hate him.
This is true, but at some point a line is crossed.
I would have no problem with comparative religion classes as an elective in public schools as a concentration in sociology and cultural anthropology. But trying to enshrine religious philosophy in law as science is a road that has been travelled before and has led to the deaths of many for their beliefs. What strikes me is that a lot of people who should know better, because of the history of their own religion (Southern Baptists - go read up on the history of the Baptist church and the persecution of its adherents), are some of the ones who push for a state religion. The mind boggles at the doublethink.
There are many, many reasons why Jefferson and Madison erected a "wall of separation" that started with Roger Williams, Anne Hutchinson, and William Penn in the US and frankly I agree with the subject that wilfully violating the First Amendment is a kind of treason.
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This is the dumbest response I've gotten in a while.
Go crack open a dictionary.
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The problem is that if you run out of gas, you curse and call AAA. They'll stop by and give you a gallon of gas, which will probably get you to the nearest gas station. From there you can add more gasoline and go on your merry way. Maybe a half-hour of inconvenience, depending on where you are.
Half an hour, you say? HAHAHAHAHA!
I can tell you right now that I *know* that you've never had to call AAA.
Ever. In your entire life.
Because it's alway45 minutes and up to "whenever the tow truck driver gets to you" even in an urban, civilized area. It's not laziness, it's just that there are so many people with AAA cards and not enough tow drivers.
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You don't get away that easy:
Argue with them on substance, make them agree based on their own values. Learn about their religion and support your own views with scripture.
I have actually done this. I have relied upon the writings of learned philosophers such as Roger Williams against literalism and that the hypocrisy of state endorsement of religion and state religions in general, "stinks in the nostrils of God." And you know what? Legislators who propose laws like this deserve derision. They deserve ridicule. Because they have violated their oaths of office. ID is a purely *religious* philosophy. It's not science. It's a *particular* version of "christian" philosophy. Attempting to enshrine it in law as science is an endorsement of a particular *brand* of christianity over all others.
State legislators in Missouri swear to uphold both the Missouri and US constitutions. And since the establishment clause was deliberately designed as a wall of separation (see Jefferson's letter to the Danbury Baptists and Madison's letter to Livingston), you really can't get any worse in violating the oath of office by proposing laws like this.
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>my anger
After reading your post, I'm sure this is pure projection.
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No, the problem is not the elected officials.
Yes, it *is* the problem.
See, we don't live in a democracy here. We don't have 50%+1 mob rule. We have a republic. Elected officials are supposed to use their fucking brains and say "no, that's fucking stupid and illegal, try again, asshole."
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>Except, this law will never get passed.
You sound so sure of this. The world is more perverse than you can imagine.
>being anti-stupid is being a bigot
No, no it's not.
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Between 40 and 50 percent of everyone believes in the Genesis story as literal truth depending on the poll. It's been that way for 50 years. The last Gallup survey had it somewhere around 46-48 percent.
What is striking is that over the decades, this number has not budged much.
1 in 5 adults and 1 in 3 under 30 aren't enough to stem the tide of derp.
http://old.richarddawkins.net/articles/706
Death throes of religious conservatism? I think not.
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>Maybe they just know roughly how many they expect to sell, and stock accordingly?
That just means that Microsoft doesn't believe in its own product.
If you really believe that your product will sell and people will stand in line for it, like they stood in line for Windows 95, and you've got the cash, you should at least make enough to fill the pre-orders and a couple of month's retail orders. It's not like Microsoft is hurting for cash for manufacturing and it's not like they don't have millions to throw at marketing research to find out the actual demand. There are so many things wrong with this "shortage" it doesn't pass the sniff test.
>Really, why?
Schadenfreude is fun. If you step on the backs of people with your boots on the way up, expect kicks on the way down. They deserve all the derision they get.
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