Do you have a stack of IPV4 addresses for sale? Or perhaps you are an ISP manager wanting to continue raking in the bucks for all those static IPV4 leases?
>Anyone taking bets on how many bugs there'll be in the latest and greatest IPv6 stuff? And how many exploitable ones?
Did the bugs in BIND prevent people from using BIND? Did the bugs in BIND dissuade people from connecting to the net at all? No. And honestly, (here comes the analogy, but it's not a car analogy - deal with it) unless you do a sea trial, your boat sits in drydock and you don't know if it will sink or not. What is certain is that your boat is worthless in drydock.
Gathering seaweed has been common here since, hell, since the Narragansetts, Wampanoags, and Pequots discovered they could eat it. The right to access the shoreline in the Rhode Island Constitution calls out the gathering of seaweed.
You can even make desserts with it. In fact, it's in many ice creams. That "carrageenan"? It's irish moss, chucked in a blender cooked in a double boiler and turned into a gel.
But IPV6 is not new technology. The RFC is 14 years old, and current computer operating systems already speak it. An 11 year old operating system, Windows XP, speaks it. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2478747
The "install" is merely enabling what is already there.
> From their point of view, they are good for years to come so why change that.
But they aren't good for years to come. Once IPV6 comes out regularly, that horde of addresses will be worthless and they will be stuck with obsolete tech. No, wait, it's already obsolete.
President Franklin D. Roosevelt revived the Advisory Commission to World War I Council on National Defense on May 29, 1940, to include Price Stabilization and Consumer Protection Divisions. Both divisions merged to become the Office of Price Administration and Civilian Supply (OPACS) within the Office for Emergency Management by Executive Order 8734, April 11, 1941. Civil supply functions were transferred to the Office of Production Management.
It became an independent agency under the Emergency Price Control Act, January 30, 1942. The OPA had the power to place ceilings on all prices except agricultural commodities, and to ration scarce supplies of other items, including tires, automobiles, shoes, nylon, sugar, gasoline, fuel oil, coffee, meats and processed foods. At the peak, almost 90% of retail food prices were frozen. It could also authorize subsidies for production of some of those commodities.
On September 24, Ivo, Devair's brother, scraped dust out of the source, taking it to his house a short distance away. There he spread some of it on the cement floor. His six-year-old daughter, Leide das Neves Ferreira, later ate a sandwich while sitting on the floor. She was also fascinated by the blue glow of the powder, and applying it to her body, showed it off to her mother. Dust from the powder fell on the sandwich she was consuming; she eventually absorbed 1.0 GBq, total dose 6.0 Gy
I can't last more than two minutes into this horrible thing. What the hell am I watching? And this trailer and it goes on for 14 minutes? What?
Apparently the English subtitles are what the Arabic overdubs were. Even I find it offensive in English. The English dialog offensive and insulting to the viewer in a "You're kidding me, right? No, wait, you're serious?" kind of way and text translation of the Arabic dub is just a middle finger to the viewer, whether Muslim or not. Uwe Boll's movies look like Citizen Kane in comparison (yes, I did just write Citizen Kane and Uwe Boll in the same sentence, deal with it). It is the equivalent of taking a shit on the centerpiece of a dinner table while the diners are eating, which in some instances might be absurdist, but not in this case.
It has no artistic merit at all, not even as a study in how to insult someone cleverly. I have no single word to truly describe how offensive this as a film except just obscenity.
And then we have people with power over there in the ME telling their followers that this movie should be taken seriously and to go out and riot not knowing the full truth behind it and most of the time never even seeing the trailer.
And we've got neocons like the FPI (you know, Romney's foreign policy advisors) pounding the war drums for yet another war somewhere in the ME. Preferably in Iran, but given Romney's words the other day, I guess anywhere in the ME where we can send 19 year old kids to die is good enough.
intentional "whack" from a bit of jostling or other causes of sudden acceleration, which doesn't seem at all obvious how to do,
It's only a magnitude. Random jostling is not the same as a good solid whack, which easily can exceed 5Gs. People do not typically experience 5G engvironments unless they are in a jet fighter or an automobile accident. Measure with a phone's built-in accelerometer any 5G thwack = intentional whack.
Bam. Done.
It's an obvious application. It's so obvious that you can buy tags to attach to shipped items that measure whacks, and if it exceeds the whack standard of the tag, then the shipper is at fault for damage.
This is just using already-built-in accelerometers and doing the exact same thing. Don't forget the standard is supposed to be "nonobvious to someone skilled in the art" and not "nonobvious to a moron."
It costs *more* to "lock out linux" and other operating systems.
Seriously, how much does it cost to "support linux" from a CPU vendor POV? They have just been putting out chips like they always have and letting people do what they will with them, windows, linux, bsd, qnx, wind-river, whatever.
Now they're doing *OS detection* to make sure that the OS is Windows 8? Come on.
>About seizing IP ranges, I meant looking for entire chunks of IPs that may have been bought by a "business" or "ISP" and then converted wholly into a spam farm
Nobody buys IP ranges to open a spam farm. Ever.
> From my point of view, sometimes it feels like there are armies being deliberately built out there.
Welcome to 10 years ago.
> I agree about compromised individuals
That's what a botnet is, millions of compromised individual machines not even from the same IP range, because IP range when building your botnet means fuckall.
Command and control is typically done through IRC. Although this is changing to a distributed model via p2p where any machine in the botnet can be a c&c node.
Why buy an IP range and populate it with machines you have to buy when you can just load a trojan in with a popular software package and upload it to a bazillion torrent sites and let people install your botnet for you? Or buy adspace and propagate via driveby-install?
Your information on spam and botnets is outdated. I used to hang out on news.admin.net-abuse.email and actively fight spam until the botnets showed up. Then I gave up. Knocking them off the net one-by-one became an example of "shoveling shit against the tide" as my dad says.
Yeah, well, that was written before I read more about the app in the thread and the person I was talking to I assumed was talking more in generalities to have to use javascript to even see pictures these days.
I looked at it and yes, pictures are actually hosted @McAfee.
But you know what? I've already done my job on FB to tell the people around me to not bother installing this app, and that if they do, I will merely ignore any and all pics posted with the app (the post is far longer than this description).
It is designed to keep grandma from saving the pictures of her grandkids and does nothing to stop someone from harvesting blackmail fuel through fraps, a VM or even a silly camera.
Nah, that distinction goes to "Windows" which is so generic and "merely functional" that Microsoft nearly lost the trademark in a counterclaim by Linspire, wherupon Microsoft paid Linspire to shut up about it.
Beefy Miracle is leaps and bounds a "better" trademark.
What you should have told that high school student was that wikipedia is secondary reference material, not a learning aid. If you need help learning a subject matter you should be asking for help from a tutor, teacher, instructor, or educational textbook, not wikipedia.
Then Wikipedia math articles should never *ever* be referred to in a general context to introduce an unfamiliar subject to anyone.
it is ostensibly a databank for knowledge (and crazy admins)
This is a damning indictment of Wikipedia's mission. What good is information if it cannot be understood? It may as well be Viking runes.
>crazy admins >deny dick measuring
Dohohoho.
The http://abcdathome.com/ website provides an explanation of what ABC triples are, how to figure them, and what the conjecture is, its implications, and all that, in plain, understandable English, because ABC triples are just mere arithmetic when you get down to it. But you wouldn't know that from the Wikipedia page, which is a disaster.
The fact is that while the accuracy of the Wikipedia math pages is excellent, the explanations behind the equations are lacking. Even boring old post-secondary textbooks do a better job of explaining just what is going on.
> They're most unhappy about that
Tough. It is well known that the Wikipedia math pages are impossible to learn from unless you are immersed in the subject 24/7. There is even a grad student in physics in this thread that finds them impenetrable. He's not alone. "I'm not stupid, but this is impossible."
>comparing the Wikipedia page to the abcathome page
ABC triples are nothing but simple arithmetic. They should be explained as simple arithmetic, at least in the beginning of the page. The Wikipedia page does not do this. Why? Because some people are more interested in looking good to their peers than edifying the people seeking out new information through independent study. It's the only real explanation of what goes on there. Because it certainly seems beneath the editors to explain and document what the equations flung at the wall mean. The Wikipedia page on this is a mess. It is ivory tower syndrome on steroids.
People like Roger Penrose who explain in clear prose what they're doing when demonstrating something mathematical contribute more to society and the advancement of mathematics overall than any hundred grad students editing wikipedia pages.
Hell, Vi Hart does a lot better explaining things than any single Wikipedia math page. Math doesn't have to be inaccessible.
Anyone wishing to learn math is better served by going elsewhere 100 percent of the time.
That, on its face, is a bullshit figure and I will spell out right now that you are lying.
Q. Are there any limitations on the ADA's barrier removal requirements for existing facilities?
A. Yes. Barrier removal need be accomplished only when it is "readily achievable" to do so.
Q. What does the term "readily achievable" mean?
A. It means "easily accomplishable and able to be carried out without much difficulty or expense."
Q. Will businesses need to install elevators?
A. Businesses are not required to retrofit their facilities to install elevators unless such installation is readily achievable, which is unlikely in most cases.
Q. Must alternative steps be taken without regard to cost?
A. No, only readily achievable alternative steps must be undertaken.
The thing is though, there are mathemeticians who are good at writing articles on math that *can* explain things so that people not necessarily immersed in higher math 24/7 *can* understand what is being talked about.
The page I cited earlier was written by a mathemetician running a project called "abcathome" - a BOINC project looking at abc triples. And it's understandable. And it gives you an method how to discover whether 3 numbers are an abc triple. It also doesn't resort to any fancy formulas or jargon - rather you can do it with a pencil and paper and arithmetic. Someone back there said "well, it's not something covered in HS math" while failing to understand that abc triples and the conjecture are understandable to HS students if you bother to take the time to actually explain it like he did.
>The problem is that these topics aren't what you'd see in high school algebra.
But the fact is that I was able to pull up a *better* explanation of what ABC triplets are and what this conjecture is by linking to a project dealing directly with this problem run by an actual mathemetician. And it was in terms that anyone in algebra I or pre-algebra, if they slowed down and took it step-by-step, could comprehend and it was accurate.
And if you clicked through to the other pages, on the site, you found clear common-english explanations as to why it's important.
And nothing anyone said defending the Wikipedia math pages contradicts my initial claim that you shouldn't link those pages to explain math, especially to a bunch of non-mathemeticians on Slashdot.
Slashdot Mirror
Oh look, fear mongering from an AC.
Do you have a stack of IPV4 addresses for sale? Or perhaps you are an ISP manager wanting to continue raking in the bucks for all those static IPV4 leases?
>Anyone taking bets on how many bugs there'll be in the latest and greatest IPv6 stuff? And how many exploitable ones?
Did the bugs in BIND prevent people from using BIND? Did the bugs in BIND dissuade people from connecting to the net at all? No. And honestly, (here comes the analogy, but it's not a car analogy - deal with it) unless you do a sea trial, your boat sits in drydock and you don't know if it will sink or not. What is certain is that your boat is worthless in drydock.
Your post is just FUD.
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Gathering seaweed has been common here since, hell, since the Narragansetts, Wampanoags, and Pequots discovered they could eat it. The right to access the shoreline in the Rhode Island Constitution calls out the gathering of seaweed.
You can even make desserts with it. In fact, it's in many ice creams. That "carrageenan"? It's irish moss, chucked in a blender cooked in a double boiler and turned into a gel.
Block Island Blancmange: http://www.quahog.org/factsfolklore/index.php?id=154
Irish Moss can even be stir fried.
That's just one plant. There are others. Sugar kelp. Yup.
https://eatingwiththeecosystem.org/Sugar_Kelp.html
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> and not to be a testbed for new technologies
But IPV6 is not new technology. The RFC is 14 years old, and current computer operating systems already speak it. An 11 year old operating system, Windows XP, speaks it. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2478747
The "install" is merely enabling what is already there.
> From their point of view, they are good for years to come so why change that.
But they aren't good for years to come. Once IPV6 comes out regularly, that horde of addresses will be worthless and they will be stuck with obsolete tech. No, wait, it's already obsolete.
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Furthermore
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_Price_Administration
Facts are inconvenient for some.
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>The UK had both price fixing and rationing in WW2, and we lost to the United States, which didn't.
What? Are you bloody serious?
http://www.ameshistoricalsociety.org/exhibits/events/rationing.htm
First google link, out of thousands.
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This reminds me of the Goiania accident, a horrifying incident where someone stole the radiation source to a radiotherapy machine.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goi%C3%A2nia_accident
A choice bit:
It glows, let's use it for makeup.
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I can't last more than two minutes into this horrible thing. What the hell am I watching? And this trailer and it goes on for 14 minutes? What?
Apparently the English subtitles are what the Arabic overdubs were. Even I find it offensive in English. The English dialog offensive and insulting to the viewer in a "You're kidding me, right? No, wait, you're serious?" kind of way and text translation of the Arabic dub is just a middle finger to the viewer, whether Muslim or not. Uwe Boll's movies look like Citizen Kane in comparison (yes, I did just write Citizen Kane and Uwe Boll in the same sentence, deal with it). It is the equivalent of taking a shit on the centerpiece of a dinner table while the diners are eating, which in some instances might be absurdist, but not in this case.
It has no artistic merit at all, not even as a study in how to insult someone cleverly. I have no single word to truly describe how offensive this as a film except just obscenity.
And then we have people with power over there in the ME telling their followers that this movie should be taken seriously and to go out and riot not knowing the full truth behind it and most of the time never even seeing the trailer.
And we've got neocons like the FPI (you know, Romney's foreign policy advisors) pounding the war drums for yet another war somewhere in the ME. Preferably in Iran, but given Romney's words the other day, I guess anywhere in the ME where we can send 19 year old kids to die is good enough.
No, this isn't a setup, no not at all.
Cui bono?
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intentional "whack" from a bit of jostling or other causes of sudden acceleration, which doesn't seem at all obvious how to do,
It's only a magnitude. Random jostling is not the same as a good solid whack, which easily can exceed 5Gs. People do not typically experience 5G engvironments unless they are in a jet fighter or an automobile accident. Measure with a phone's built-in accelerometer any 5G thwack = intentional whack.
Bam. Done.
It's an obvious application. It's so obvious that you can buy tags to attach to shipped items that measure whacks, and if it exceeds the whack standard of the tag, then the shipper is at fault for damage.
http://www.drypak.com/shippingHandlingIndicators.html
This is just using already-built-in accelerometers and doing the exact same thing. Don't forget the standard is supposed to be "nonobvious to someone skilled in the art" and not "nonobvious to a moron."
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>Android = Linux ?
Why yes, yes it is. Instead of a GNU userland, though, it has a Google userland.
You don't know much about Linux, do you?
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>All this so a few oddballs
Yes, like IBM and Oracle and all those oddballs.
Meet your new status. Plonk
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It costs *more* to "lock out linux" and other operating systems.
Seriously, how much does it cost to "support linux" from a CPU vendor POV? They have just been putting out chips like they always have and letting people do what they will with them, windows, linux, bsd, qnx, wind-river, whatever.
Now they're doing *OS detection* to make sure that the OS is Windows 8? Come on.
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>About seizing IP ranges, I meant looking for entire chunks of IPs that may have been bought by a "business" or "ISP" and then converted wholly into a spam farm
Nobody buys IP ranges to open a spam farm. Ever.
> From my point of view, sometimes it feels like there are armies being deliberately built out there.
Welcome to 10 years ago.
> I agree about compromised individuals
That's what a botnet is, millions of compromised individual machines not even from the same IP range, because IP range when building your botnet means fuckall.
Command and control is typically done through IRC. Although this is changing to a distributed model via p2p where any machine in the botnet can be a c&c node.
Why buy an IP range and populate it with machines you have to buy when you can just load a trojan in with a popular software package and upload it to a bazillion torrent sites and let people install your botnet for you? Or buy adspace and propagate via driveby-install?
Your information on spam and botnets is outdated. I used to hang out on news.admin.net-abuse.email and actively fight spam until the botnets showed up. Then I gave up. Knocking them off the net one-by-one became an example of "shoveling shit against the tide" as my dad says.
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But...
ABC triples are not a complex subject. They are arithmetic.
Yeah, well, that was written before I read more about the app in the thread and the person I was talking to I assumed was talking more in generalities to have to use javascript to even see pictures these days.
I looked at it and yes, pictures are actually hosted @McAfee.
But you know what? I've already done my job on FB to tell the people around me to not bother installing this app, and that if they do, I will merely ignore any and all pics posted with the app (the post is far longer than this description).
It is designed to keep grandma from saving the pictures of her grandkids and does nothing to stop someone from harvesting blackmail fuel through fraps, a VM or even a silly camera.
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How will the image load without Javascript?
Facebook displays photos without javascript just fine.
Try it.
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...someone uses Noscript or turns off javascript manually.
Then all bets are off. Right click to save. Bam. Where is your god now?
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Nah, that distinction goes to "Windows" which is so generic and "merely functional" that Microsoft nearly lost the trademark in a counterclaim by Linspire, wherupon Microsoft paid Linspire to shut up about it.
Beefy Miracle is leaps and bounds a "better" trademark.
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...dear subby, marketing in itself is absurd.
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What you should have told that high school student was that wikipedia is secondary reference material, not a learning aid. If you need help learning a subject matter you should be asking for help from a tutor, teacher, instructor, or educational textbook, not wikipedia.
Then Wikipedia math articles should never *ever* be referred to in a general context to introduce an unfamiliar subject to anyone.
it is ostensibly a databank for knowledge (and crazy admins)
This is a damning indictment of Wikipedia's mission. What good is information if it cannot be understood? It may as well be Viking runes.
>crazy admins
>deny dick measuring
Dohohoho.
The http://abcdathome.com/ website provides an explanation of what ABC triples are, how to figure them, and what the conjecture is, its implications, and all that, in plain, understandable English, because ABC triples are just mere arithmetic when you get down to it. But you wouldn't know that from the Wikipedia page, which is a disaster.
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The fact is that while the accuracy of the Wikipedia math pages is excellent, the explanations behind the equations are lacking. Even boring old post-secondary textbooks do a better job of explaining just what is going on.
> They're most unhappy about that
Tough. It is well known that the Wikipedia math pages are impossible to learn from unless you are immersed in the subject 24/7. There is even a grad student in physics in this thread that finds them impenetrable. He's not alone. "I'm not stupid, but this is impossible."
>comparing the Wikipedia page to the abcathome page
ABC triples are nothing but simple arithmetic. They should be explained as simple arithmetic, at least in the beginning of the page. The Wikipedia page does not do this. Why? Because some people are more interested in looking good to their peers than edifying the people seeking out new information through independent study. It's the only real explanation of what goes on there. Because it certainly seems beneath the editors to explain and document what the equations flung at the wall mean. The Wikipedia page on this is a mess. It is ivory tower syndrome on steroids.
People like Roger Penrose who explain in clear prose what they're doing when demonstrating something mathematical contribute more to society and the advancement of mathematics overall than any hundred grad students editing wikipedia pages.
Hell, Vi Hart does a lot better explaining things than any single Wikipedia math page. Math doesn't have to be inaccessible.
Anyone wishing to learn math is better served by going elsewhere 100 percent of the time.
Deal with it.
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>hobby
>not a business
>required to spend 100K
That, on its face, is a bullshit figure and I will spell out right now that you are lying.
Q. Are there any limitations on the ADA's barrier removal requirements for existing facilities?
A. Yes. Barrier removal need be accomplished only when it is "readily achievable" to do so.
Q. What does the term "readily achievable" mean?
A. It means "easily accomplishable and able to be carried out without much difficulty or expense."
Q. Will businesses need to install elevators?
A. Businesses are not required to retrofit their facilities to install elevators unless such installation is readily achievable, which is unlikely in most cases.
Q. Must alternative steps be taken without regard to cost?
A. No, only readily achievable alternative steps must be undertaken.
http://www.ada.gov/q&aeng02.htm
Go parrot your nonsense elsewhere, kid.
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The Penis Measuring Armageddon will be fought on Pen Island.
http://www.penisland.net/
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The thing is though, there are mathemeticians who are good at writing articles on math that *can* explain things so that people not necessarily immersed in higher math 24/7 *can* understand what is being talked about.
The page I cited earlier was written by a mathemetician running a project called "abcathome" - a BOINC project looking at abc triples. And it's understandable. And it gives you an method how to discover whether 3 numbers are an abc triple. It also doesn't resort to any fancy formulas or jargon - rather you can do it with a pencil and paper and arithmetic. Someone back there said "well, it's not something covered in HS math" while failing to understand that abc triples and the conjecture are understandable to HS students if you bother to take the time to actually explain it like he did.
Such mathemeticians are a gift to society.
They just aren't on Wikipedia.
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>The problem is that these topics aren't what you'd see in high school algebra.
But the fact is that I was able to pull up a *better* explanation of what ABC triplets are and what this conjecture is by linking to a project dealing directly with this problem run by an actual mathemetician. And it was in terms that anyone in algebra I or pre-algebra, if they slowed down and took it step-by-step, could comprehend and it was accurate.
And if you clicked through to the other pages, on the site, you found clear common-english explanations as to why it's important.
Really, go look at the other page I linked.
http://abcathome.com/conjecture.php
And nothing anyone said defending the Wikipedia math pages contradicts my initial claim that you shouldn't link those pages to explain math, especially to a bunch of non-mathemeticians on Slashdot.
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So when do we uplift the chimpanzees and dolphins?
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