>THIS [youtube.com] is one example why Willard's not fit to wield any governmental power ever again.
That and the video of him with the Vietnam veteran who is gay, who when asked about gay marriage, Mitt spouted off the teabilly talking point about "marriage between a man and a woman."
Total lack of empathy. Because heaven forfend that he say something that doesn't piss off his "base" for being thoughful.
He has spent the entire campaign running *against* his record as Governor of MA. It's fake, and everyone sees it as fake. He is the fakest candidate that ever faked a fake. Ronnie Raygun was the Teflon Prez, but Mitt is the Plastic Man.
All of those are industries that use Algebra I and II. Subjects studied in HS, and the subject of this article.
How else do you measure the bottom of a powerline between two power poles without touching the stupid thing? Protip: It's a parabola. Shoot the bottom of it and the ends and figure it out. You can then figure out how much it's going to sag on a hot day, because of the coeffcient of expansion of copper or aluminum.
The thing about Joe Biden's gaffes is that at the end of it, you wind up liking him anyway, because when he gaffes, he speaks what he's really thinking, and he shows that he's not a vile, emotionless robot like Romney is.
FFS, y'all should see his talk on grief he gave at TAPS. Bring tissues.
Oh, I can certainly point out some odious Democrats.
During the SOPA hearings, I became particularly incensed at Maxine Waters. What a waste of everybody's time she is. She and a most on both sides of the aisle didn't particularly "get" why SOPA was a bad idea. Watt was similarly a waste of oxygen and body heat in that chamber. Only a handful like Polis (D), Lofgren(D), Lungren(R), and Issa (R) and got it. Hell, Polis even understood what the hell Bitcoin, TOR, and Silk Road are. The response on/g/ was "oh god, he knows!"
>(a suggestion which some, including Snopes.com, have taken as a joke)
Snopes quotes The Blaze.
The Blaze is hardly unbiased. It is the mouthpiece of Glenn Beck. If The Blaze announced that there would be a full moon in the next month or that the sun would rise in the morning, I would check astronomical tables (or use Stellarium) to make sure.
Mitt Romney is dumb as a post, lacking in humlity, candor, and empathy.
Every time you see him interacting with someone on the campaign trail, his affect is never one of any sympathy, but just blindly spewing talking points to whatever question is asked, and if it especially important, he simply won't answer it, but go off on a tangent.
Linus is absolutely right, and a lot of people are afraid to point at Mittens and say the emperor is missing his shirt. Linus simply pointed out that not only is he missing his shirt, but he has not a stitch on, and his schwanzstucker is waving about for the kids to see.
More people need to be unafraid to point out stupidity for what it is. Maybe then the GOP would not be seen as the party of teatards, xenophobes, and sociopaths that it is today.
>How do you propose to teach someone symbolic logic without teaching them what symbols are, and how to manipulate them?
You are implying that algebra is the be-all and end-all of symbolic logic?
Let me introduce you to New Math. I was a "victim" of it.
It revolved around number theory, set theory, and logical operations - and, or, not. I knew venn diagrams and set notation before I knew how to find least common denominators.
New Math was widely derided by people who thought that arithmetic proficiency done through rote learning and timed tests (which was my third grade math) should be the goal of the early grades. The thing is though, when home computers showed up, I was able to teach myself programming, and a course in digital circuits wasn't as hard as it could have been, and all sorts of stuff including a summer course in Logic (with Irving M. Copi's book) that made one of my smart friends drop in a week.
My point being is that teaching philosophical logic as such is a better tool for teaching one how to think, because it's not just applicable to math. It's applicable to law and debate and other such things. It gives one an appreciation as to why, in a law, there is an "or" instead of an "and" linking clauses.
... that most k-12 math teachers never left academia.
Most math teachers go directly from high school to university or a teaching college and go right back to k-12.
The ones that have seen the inside of a machine shop, the inside of a land-evidence vault, worked for a logistics firm, done bookeeping, been an actuary, or even looked through a theodolite, are few and far between. So even coming up with "real world scenarios" is next to impossible.
Then why mention them except as marketing fluff? EÃoeOur solution is a new fast startup mode which is a hybrid of traditional cold boot and resuming from hibernate,Ãither they are improved, or they are empty words on your part. You pick.
This is a mis-paste.
It should read "Then why mention them except as marketing fluff? Either they are improved or they are empty words on your part. You pick"
>A careful reading of my post will reveal that for the most part I did not say it is more secure or stable or what not.
Then why mention them except as marketing fluff? EâoeOur solution is a new fast startup mode which is a hybrid of traditional cold boot and resuming from hibernate,âither they are improved, or they are empty words on your part. You pick.
>Windows XP scales down better, but not up
But the context you used was that 8 scaled down to machines that are 7 years old. It clearly does not. I have tested this myself. 8 will run in as little as 768MB, but you can't actually do anything in it with that little RAM. Forget about loading Word.
>claiming 8 starts in 8 seconds
From your article:
>"Our solution is a new fast startup mode which is a hybrid of traditional cold boot and resuming from hibernate,"
So it's not really from a cold boot.
FLP does this from a dead cold boot. It is so fast that spamming the F8 key to install drivers that need to be done in safe mode does not work at all and you are left with editing boot.ini or using msconfig to get to safe mode.
enhanced multi-monitor support with a taskbar for both screens, and quick access to start button, app switching, or search/settings from any screen; improved task manager with more detailed process informatin, more detailed hardware information, process history, and startup program options; improved file copy with more detailed support for handling file collisions, grouping all file transfer in a single window, and ability to pause file transfers individually; improvements in explorer such as the re-inclusion of the up directory button in the, and the making more obvious features like show hidden files, show file extensions, and one feature I never knew about (invert selection) but thankfully have learned thanks to its inclusion as a top-level option; native support for mounting ISOs; native data usage monitoring over metered connections; and finally the ability to dock metro applications like news, chat, or music, or browser next to my desktop.
As I read that, it's all stuff and more that I have been taking for granted in KDE. Welcome to the modern age of desktops.
>There are plenty of ways someone as technical as yourself.
But what about the regular users?
>a) booting to desktop and just not using it
There was a way. There was a toggle in the registry that was ripped out, and to/make sure/ nobody ever put it back in, Microsoft went and removed the legacy code in Explorer to make sure. A clickable batch file could have been distributed to users to let them toggle it.
Also you are repeating the "metro is just the start screen" talking point that you guys use to brush off criticism of Metro, when Metro is so/much/ more than a start screen and is rather an entirely new paradigm for a GUI. I wish you guys would stop doing this, because you are not only lying, but you are dissing your own product to escape criticism. This is bad salesmanship and it makes me want to break things.
>booting to the desktop
But once I hit the Windows key, I'm back in Metro
>third party
Why do I need a third party application when it was there all along but is now ripped out?
>shell replacement
Why not just abandon the OS entirely and go to Linux and virtualize the handful of programs that are needed?
>In all the Slashdot articles trashing windows 8, the one and only criticism ever brought up here is of Metro and the start menu.
When Metro is the biggest change that the user sees to the OS, isn't that a core criticism?
>Windows 8 is stable
So is XP. So is 2000SP4. So is 7SP1. Windows 7SP1 is going to be the new XP. Deal with it.
>uses minimal resources
That title belongs to Windows FLP, which boots in 7 seconds and not even a second after hitting enter on your password to get to a desktop. It does not belong to 8.
>performs well
Compared to what? , >features a variety of real improvements to the UI and workflow
Marketing nonsense.
>is secure,
That remains to be seen. Out of the lists of changes to Windows in 8, none have listed any major changes in security. If there are changes, they aren't ever listed.
>is scalable to hardware even 7 years old (at least)
No it isn't. That belongs to Windows FLP and XP.
>is compatible with almost all software available for Windows 7
Isn't that to be expected? 7 is only 3 years old. SP1 is 18 months old.
>is compatible with almost all drivers for Windows 7
But wait, isn't this article about the Intel CEO complaining about drivers not being ready?
>it's ready, and has been for a long time.
Says you.
>Public betas and pre-releases have been available for over a year now, including a free RTM evaluation, so we've all been free to test and evaluate it on our own machines.
Yes, and it's like Microsoft has not only ignored any and all criticism of Metro, but went out of their way to disable turning it off.
>And still the *only* complaint
No, it's not the only complaint even though you frame it that way. See this current article.
> If that's the worst you can come up with for Windows 8, I'd say it's good to go.
I would say that an interface that is as maddening as Metro is on the desktop with no way to turn it off means that it's not ready for prime time.
It's funny how there were all those ads years ago about how Microsoft was proud of how they took ideas from users to integrate into Office. They don't listen so much now, do they?
On a further note, I finally tried the 3D acceleration under VirtualBox after ignoring it for years. It works fine. Linux for most eveything and virtualization for the handful of legacy software packages you "can't do without."
A note about installing the 3D accelerated driver: If you are virtualizing Windows FLP, the fastest booting Windows NT driven OS of the 21'st century, you need to edit boot.ini or use msconfig to switch to safe mode, because it boots so fast that spamming the F8 key won't work.
ftfs: But in doing so, Microsoft has jacked up prices on its old fee structure to make subscriptions seem like a better deal. And that could really leave a bad impression with financially struggling consumers."
Good. Can they please make it so that nobody can pirate their stuff too? We know they can. Ballmer keeps making threats that he will. With DRM and signed software installs, the technology is there.
>Hmmm I wonder what debian think about their software being aggregated with software distributed under this license?
"Mere aggregation" is just fine and is spelled out in the GPL.
From 3.0
A compilation of a covered work with other separate and independent works, which are not by their nature extensions of the covered work, and which are not combined with it such as to form a larger program, in or on a volume of a storage or distribution medium, is called an âoeaggregateâ if the compilation and its resulting copyright are not used to limit the access or legal rights of the compilation's users beyond what the individual works permit. Inclusion of a covered work in an aggregate does not cause this License to apply to the other parts of the aggregate.
From 2.0
In addition, mere aggregation of another work not based on the Program with the Program (or with a work based on the Program) on a volume of a storage or distribution medium does not bring the other work under the scope of this License.
Which is why you can distribute work with various licenses including GPLed software on the same media.
Kmail, and Knode are both applications that you want to work, but mostly don't. Akonadi is slowly getting better, but the speed of this is glacial. I can see the logic of having a central daemon controlling all your settings and such from a user perspective, but I think it overcomplicates things from a system perspective.
Other than that, though, much of KDE is very useful. I use it rather than any other desktop suite (I have ripped out gnome and unity from Ubuntu manually (I dislike kubuntu)), and when I want lightweight with no features, I just run FVWM and no DE at all.
As for PIM stuff... Gnome Docs and Gmail do what I need.
See there are these things called gateways that you can buy that will take your IPV4 internal network and connect it to the outside world with IPV6. Today.
>WinPhone 7.5 doesn't support IPV6
1. Cite? 2. Even if it doesn't, that can be taken care of at the telco level
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>THIS [youtube.com] is one example why Willard's not fit to wield any governmental power ever again.
That and the video of him with the Vietnam veteran who is gay, who when asked about gay marriage, Mitt spouted off the teabilly talking point about "marriage between a man and a woman."
Total lack of empathy. Because heaven forfend that he say something that doesn't piss off his "base" for being thoughful.
He has spent the entire campaign running *against* his record as Governor of MA. It's fake, and everyone sees it as fake. He is the fakest candidate that ever faked a fake. Ronnie Raygun was the Teflon Prez, but Mitt is the Plastic Man.
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>All of those are heavy math examples
All of those are industries that use Algebra I and II. Subjects studied in HS, and the subject of this article.
How else do you measure the bottom of a powerline between two power poles without touching the stupid thing? Protip: It's a parabola. Shoot the bottom of it and the ends and figure it out. You can then figure out how much it's going to sag on a hot day, because of the coeffcient of expansion of copper or aluminum.
See? Practical example.
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The thing about Joe Biden's gaffes is that at the end of it, you wind up liking him anyway, because when he gaffes, he speaks what he's really thinking, and he shows that he's not a vile, emotionless robot like Romney is.
FFS, y'all should see his talk on grief he gave at TAPS. Bring tissues.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwZ6UfXm410
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Oh, I can certainly point out some odious Democrats.
During the SOPA hearings, I became particularly incensed at Maxine Waters. What a waste of everybody's time she is. She and a most on both sides of the aisle didn't particularly "get" why SOPA was a bad idea. Watt was similarly a waste of oxygen and body heat in that chamber. Only a handful like Polis (D), Lofgren(D), Lungren(R), and Issa (R) and got it. Hell, Polis even understood what the hell Bitcoin, TOR, and Silk Road are. The response on /g/ was "oh god, he knows!"
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>(a suggestion which some, including Snopes.com, have taken as a joke)
Snopes quotes The Blaze.
The Blaze is hardly unbiased. It is the mouthpiece of Glenn Beck. If The Blaze announced that there would be a full moon in the next month or that the sun would rise in the morning, I would check astronomical tables (or use Stellarium) to make sure.
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Mitt Romney is dumb as a post, lacking in humlity, candor, and empathy.
Every time you see him interacting with someone on the campaign trail, his affect is never one of any sympathy, but just blindly spewing talking points to whatever question is asked, and if it especially important, he simply won't answer it, but go off on a tangent.
Linus is absolutely right, and a lot of people are afraid to point at Mittens and say the emperor is missing his shirt. Linus simply pointed out that not only is he missing his shirt, but he has not a stitch on, and his schwanzstucker is waving about for the kids to see.
More people need to be unafraid to point out stupidity for what it is. Maybe then the GOP would not be seen as the party of teatards, xenophobes, and sociopaths that it is today.
Good on Linus. Three cheers.
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>Given the philosopy classes I've taken
And yet you skipped right over that Logic course.
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>How do you propose to teach someone symbolic logic without teaching them what symbols are, and how to manipulate them?
You are implying that algebra is the be-all and end-all of symbolic logic?
Let me introduce you to New Math. I was a "victim" of it.
It revolved around number theory, set theory, and logical operations - and, or, not. I knew venn diagrams and set notation before I knew how to find least common denominators.
New Math was widely derided by people who thought that arithmetic proficiency done through rote learning and timed tests (which was my third grade math) should be the goal of the early grades. The thing is though, when home computers showed up, I was able to teach myself programming, and a course in digital circuits wasn't as hard as it could have been, and all sorts of stuff including a summer course in Logic (with Irving M. Copi's book) that made one of my smart friends drop in a week.
My point being is that teaching philosophical logic as such is a better tool for teaching one how to think, because it's not just applicable to math. It's applicable to law and debate and other such things. It gives one an appreciation as to why, in a law, there is an "or" instead of an "and" linking clauses.
But hey, what do I know.
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A word problem:
If you have 20 cows in a barn, and they leave an open gate at 1 per hour, after 1 hour, how many cows will be in the barn?
Math teacher's answer: 19.
Dairy farmer's answer: None.
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>We do not teach mathematics to teach you how to add, we teach mathematics to teach you how to solve, to teach you how to think.
Then you are using the wrong tool for the job.
The tool you should be using is symbolic and philosophical logic, and philosophy in general.
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... that most k-12 math teachers never left academia.
Most math teachers go directly from high school to university or a teaching college and go right back to k-12.
The ones that have seen the inside of a machine shop, the inside of a land-evidence vault, worked for a logistics firm, done bookeeping, been an actuary, or even looked through a theodolite, are few and far between. So even coming up with "real world scenarios" is next to impossible.
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I said:
Then why mention them except as marketing fluff? EÃoeOur solution is a new fast startup mode which is a hybrid of traditional cold boot and resuming from hibernate,Ãither they are improved, or they are empty words on your part. You pick.
This is a mis-paste.
It should read "Then why mention them except as marketing fluff? Either they are improved or they are empty words on your part. You pick"
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>A careful reading of my post will reveal that for the most part I did not say it is more secure or stable or what not.
Then why mention them except as marketing fluff? EâoeOur solution is a new fast startup mode which is a hybrid of traditional cold boot and resuming from hibernate,âither they are improved, or they are empty words on your part. You pick.
>Windows XP scales down better, but not up
But the context you used was that 8 scaled down to machines that are 7 years old. It clearly does not. I have tested this myself. 8 will run in as little as 768MB, but you can't actually do anything in it with that little RAM. Forget about loading Word.
>claiming 8 starts in 8 seconds
From your article:
>"Our solution is a new fast startup mode which is a hybrid of traditional cold boot and resuming from hibernate,"
So it's not really from a cold boot.
FLP does this from a dead cold boot. It is so fast that spamming the F8 key to install drivers that need to be done in safe mode does not work at all and you are left with editing boot.ini or using msconfig to get to safe mode.
As I read that, it's all stuff and more that I have been taking for granted in KDE. Welcome to the modern age of desktops.
>There are plenty of ways someone as technical as yourself.
But what about the regular users?
>a) booting to desktop and just not using it
There was a way. There was a toggle in the registry that was ripped out, and to /make sure/ nobody ever put it back in, Microsoft went and removed the legacy code in Explorer to make sure. A clickable batch file could have been distributed to users to let them toggle it.
Also you are repeating the "metro is just the start screen" talking point that you guys use to brush off criticism of Metro, when Metro is so /much/ more than a start screen and is rather an entirely new paradigm for a GUI. I wish you guys would stop doing this, because you are not only lying, but you are dissing your own product to escape criticism. This is bad salesmanship and it makes me want to break things.
>booting to the desktop
But once I hit the Windows key, I'm back in Metro
>third party
Why do I need a third party application when it was there all along but is now ripped out?
>shell replacement
Why not just abandon the OS entirely and go to Linux and virtualize the handful of programs that are needed?
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>In all the Slashdot articles trashing windows 8, the one and only criticism ever brought up here is of Metro and the start menu.
When Metro is the biggest change that the user sees to the OS, isn't that a core criticism?
>Windows 8 is stable
So is XP. So is 2000SP4. So is 7SP1. Windows 7SP1 is going to be the new XP. Deal with it.
>uses minimal resources
That title belongs to Windows FLP, which boots in 7 seconds and not even a second after hitting enter on your password to get to a desktop. It does not belong to 8.
>performs well
Compared to what?
,
>features a variety of real improvements to the UI and workflow
Marketing nonsense.
>is secure,
That remains to be seen. Out of the lists of changes to Windows in 8, none have listed any major changes in security. If there are changes, they aren't ever listed.
>is scalable to hardware even 7 years old (at least)
No it isn't. That belongs to Windows FLP and XP.
>is compatible with almost all software available for Windows 7
Isn't that to be expected? 7 is only 3 years old. SP1 is 18 months old.
>is compatible with almost all drivers for Windows 7
But wait, isn't this article about the Intel CEO complaining about drivers not being ready?
>it's ready, and has been for a long time.
Says you.
>Public betas and pre-releases have been available for over a year now, including a free RTM evaluation, so we've all been free to test and evaluate it on our own machines.
Yes, and it's like Microsoft has not only ignored any and all criticism of Metro, but went out of their way to disable turning it off.
>And still the *only* complaint
No, it's not the only complaint even though you frame it that way. See this current article.
> If that's the worst you can come up with for Windows 8, I'd say it's good to go.
I would say that an interface that is as maddening as Metro is on the desktop with no way to turn it off means that it's not ready for prime time.
It's funny how there were all those ads years ago about how Microsoft was proud of how they took ideas from users to integrate into Office. They don't listen so much now, do they?
>modded insightful
>marketing spew
Well, there's no accounting for taste.
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> How is this different from marketing companies doing the same targeting?
Because companies typically don't have standing armies and police powers.
Hope this helps.
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The response to "just use Linux" is usually "but... herp, it doesn't run Photoshop or Autocad!"
http://i.imgur.com/fbld7.png
On a further note, I finally tried the 3D acceleration under VirtualBox after ignoring it for years. It works fine. Linux for most eveything and virtualization for the handful of legacy software packages you "can't do without."
A note about installing the 3D accelerated driver: If you are virtualizing Windows FLP, the fastest booting Windows NT driven OS of the 21'st century, you need to edit boot.ini or use msconfig to switch to safe mode, because it boots so fast that spamming the F8 key won't work.
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>This is the price being paid to ensure everyone has instant access to every email they've ever received, or for their instant Facebook status update.
Way to trivialize users' needs.
Crikes.
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>ghostery
"I'm afraid of teh spyware botnets, so i'm going to add a spyware botnet to tell me about spyware botnets"
Really, that's what ghostery is. It's an ad company.
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ftfs: But in doing so, Microsoft has jacked up prices on its old fee structure to make subscriptions seem like a better deal. And that could really leave a bad impression with financially struggling consumers."
Good. Can they please make it so that nobody can pirate their stuff too? We know they can. Ballmer keeps making threats that he will. With DRM and signed software installs, the technology is there.
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>Hmmm I wonder what debian think about their software being aggregated with software distributed under this license?
"Mere aggregation" is just fine and is spelled out in the GPL.
From 3.0
From 2.0
Which is why you can distribute work with various licenses including GPLed software on the same media.
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>new account
>come out swinging to support Microsoft in *every* message you post
Shill.
By the way, I believe I already "foed" one of your other "pie" sock-puppet accounts, Mr. PieDode.
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I should add...
Go into Settings and Akonadi and remove all services except file indexing.
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This.
Kmail, and Knode are both applications that you want to work, but mostly don't. Akonadi is slowly getting better, but the speed of this is glacial. I can see the logic of having a central daemon controlling all your settings and such from a user perspective, but I think it overcomplicates things from a system perspective.
Other than that, though, much of KDE is very useful. I use it rather than any other desktop suite (I have ripped out gnome and unity from Ubuntu manually (I dislike kubuntu)), and when I want lightweight with no features, I just run FVWM and no DE at all.
As for PIM stuff... Gnome Docs and Gmail do what I need.
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See there are these things called gateways that you can buy that will take your IPV4 internal network and connect it to the outside world with IPV6. Today.
>WinPhone 7.5 doesn't support IPV6
1. Cite?
2. Even if it doesn't, that can be taken care of at the telco level
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You don't know about IPV6/4 gateways do you?
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