Oh, look, it's another person suggesting that consumer level electronics be used for space-rated applications and saying it would be cheaper. Despite all those labels and warnings saying "this won't work below freezing or significantly above 50C.
You send certified space rated electronics up because once you send it up on the rocket, you're not going to go up and repair it if it doesn't work. If it doesn't work, you're out the full amount of money you spent, plus you have a hunk of junk orbiting the Earth creating a collision hazard for all the other valid pieces of tech in orbit. We spend money on space-rated electronics because in the long run it's actually cheaper.
> I've often wondered why we don't see more persistent infections given how firmware is handled these days.
Because writing malware for bioses and firmware means you have to be able to insert your bits of evil into firmware for a multitude of versions of Phoenix BIOS, AMI BIOS, EFI, etc. And that's hard work.
Just look at the OpenBIOS project. Just trying to get that to work on a bunch of motherboards and to stay up to date is sisyphean.
It's more productive to write malware for the OS. It's much less heterogeneous. It was blairq, I believe, on here that likened Windows to a field of cloned sweet corn's succeptibility to disease.
> Thte Christian Taliban Party doesn't deserve power.
I agree, and it was a mistake to court them.
Barry Goldwater warned the leadership and said that the Republicans would never be rid of them, implying they'd be harmful to the party in the long run. He was right.
Why use a bogus tool like LOIC though? The only way to reconfigure it is to re-write it. Instead of, you know, using switches and options on the command line.
Like mz.
The only people who use LOIC are the ones too stupid to use mz.
>You do know LOIC is a generic, open-source, you-specify-the-target DoS/stress-testing tool, right?
Yes. Who doesn't?
>Yes, there are modified versions to automatically join some collective attack, but downloading and using the original is no more "turning your computer's control to someone" than downloading and using any other binary.
But that's not how it works in practice. Typically it's "join my botnet jihad against the RIAA or Scientology" and you download a LOIC already pre-targeted for whatever.
If it's just going to be you, yourself using LOIC, you may as well be sending out "ping -s 65507 example.com."
>1) Microsoft is centralizing the data collection and Governments could subpoena them for information about an individual. >2) A malicious individual could intercept the data as its transferred and decrypt it.
So how is that any different than Debian's popcon? Hint: it isn't.
You're wrong. The actual problem is that it's opt-out. And most people just don't even know the option to turn it off is even there.
Anyone who installs LOIC is a dumbass of epic proportions. No, really. It's not infectious or anything, but the mere idea of turning your computer's control to someone who you don't know, never met, and shouldn't trust, isn't exactly bright.
"While SmartScreen is enabled by default, it's possible for users to turn it off."
And this is what's wrong with this setup. Debian has popcon, which is a survey of what you use and how often you use it, and you can participate by having a cronjob send off the file.
Did it for a few years. Walking barefoot with your pants rolled up in the middle of winter to locate a stream centerline isn't as cold as it sounds, though.
As long as you're going to foot the bill for a $500 application that changes your computer's wallpaper.
PEs and PLSs, doctors, psychologists, etc, all carry liability insurance. They're also not cheap. In the 80s, a survey crew cost $100/hr to come out and measure your land with a half-day minimum.
>Please look up the definition of "doubling down". I don't think you understand what it means.
I understand exactly what it means. It means if I think I have a good hand I double my bet and I can get *only* one card. Doubling down is "putting your money where your mouth is" and risking twice as much because you're confident the next card will win.
If you've got a different definition, I'd like to see you tell it to a blackjack dealer.
It is applicable in this case because the likes of Huckabee and King did all they could do to defend what Aikin said, and the other fundies will continue to back Aikin's words. Ryan would be doing it, but he's the VP candidate so he can't look too nutty, even though his past actions and speech endorsed exactly what Aikin talked about.
Can yoiu honestly, sincerely think it's a 'war on women'?
Yes. You want to force a woman who has been raped to go through a traumatizing 9 months gestation and to bring up a baby she didn't want or ask for.
>Pregnancy isn't seen as punishment for a moral failing.
Bullshit. Because if you had any empathy at all, you'd let a rape victim abort. But you don't have any empathy None. Zero. The callousness is just so jarring.
It's funny how people like you decry Sharia Law, but Sharia Law is exactly what you want, but with a different name. You offend me.
King, Huckabee, the head of the AFA, and other American Taliban are defending Akin.
And the defenses keep rolling in.
Not only is what Akin said just Akin, it's a philosophical thread that runs through nearly all of hyper-Calvinist American Taliban. If you watched the interview, he thought he was being absolutly rational. He's not the first one to say shit like this. Paul Ryan was a co-sponsor of the cynically named "Sanctity of Human Life Act" which *at best* made medically necessary abortions legally iffy if not outright banned. Like the Texas GOP platform plank and now the National GOP platform plank, there was no provision for the life of the mother, or rape victims, or incest victims.
So no, Aikin is not an outlier.
Akin will stay, and the Republicans will be forced to defend him, because not to means that they will be abandoning their Teahadist religious fundamentalists who have backed them through thick and thin. They will continue down this road of Christian Dominionism because at this point they have no way of moving back to the center without pissing off their "base" and drying up their election funds. Down this road lies party dissolution like what happened to the Whigs and they have no way off the path.
And yes, I want Akin to stay, because he symbolizes exactly what the Republicans have been doing for the last 30 years: chasing out anyone who even questions the radical fundamentalists who have taken over the party. You get branded a RINO and then you are defeated in the primary. They made their bed now they get to sleep in it. Tough bananas.
>I haven't found a formal announcement of the 2012 platform
Because it just came out of committee. It will be announced at the convention. There is no PDF to download yet.
However, read this:
Right To Life - All innocent human life must be respected and safeguarded from fertilization to natural death; therefore, the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed. We affirm our support for a Human Life Amendment to the Constitution and to make clear that the Fourteenth Amendmentâ(TM)s protection applies to unborn children.
What has been reported is a near word-for-word clone of the Texas GOP platform plank, so I'm going to go with assuming it's true, because so goes Texas, so does the rest of the GOP.
There are no provisions for rape, incest, or illness if you read the Texas document. Because tubal pregnancies are God's Will and since a fertilized egg implanted in a fallopian tube is a full-blown PERSON granted 14'th amendment protection in their fantasy, then abortion is murder, even though it will kill the mother. And that woman who got raped? She was asking for it. That little girl that got molested by her Uncle Stan? If she hadn't been so sexy, he wouldn't have been so weak and manipulated into getting her pregnant. See, it's all so very simple.
>Maybe you've seen organic versions of the same psychology? Such as Christians who don't think you are christian if you don't believe something they do?
Baptists, mostly Southern Convention, believe that Catholics aren't Christian (really, ask them). The same with other protestant denominations - the ones who pretend to be literalists.
... is that the Republicans are hosed this November if they continue to double down on all of this.
And this is one of their central tenets on rape, that there is "legitimate rape" and "well, it's not rape-rape, because she had an orgasm" or "she deserved it because she dressed like a slut and forced the weak spined guy to rape her." It is so central to the "pregnancy as punishment for moral failing" in fundie circles that they will not relinquish this point. Because to relinquish it means they could be wrong on other things about pregnancy and abortion too. It's a point of faith held very deeply.
Which is why the GOP platform calls for a constitutional ban on abortion with no exceptions for rape.
But don't you dare call it a war on women. Right? *spit*
So get the popcorn, and find your favorite chair, because this is going to be an epic amount of derp.
Yeah, heaven forbid that I use Usenet for its original purpose and that I'm still slightly miffed that massive piracy in the binaries newsgroups is the real reason why my ISP and others no longer carry it, over the excuse that there are child porn newsgroups. All because the NY state AG, Eliot Spitzer, wanted to get some political hay being a soldier in the good fight against child porn. As if the ISPs didn't have the choice of merely dropping the kiddie porn groups, no no.
So the ISPs got their excuse and dropped usenet entirely because it was a cost center from all the bandwidth and disk space that the binaries took up.
FB bots already troll for illegal content and if something is spotted, it's forwarded to "the man."
There was something about this here not too long ago, but I can't be arsed to look it up.
1. Don't be stupid and post potentially illegal/threatening stuff to your FB page, whether you think it's private or not. It's not. Read your privacy policy. Act as if FB is some weird version of usenet and you'll be fine. Also, if you are bent on revolution, no revolution ever really got started by doing the organizing in public. At least not at first.
Thus sayeth the FB privacy policy:
We may also share information when we have a good faith belief it is necessary to prevent fraud or other illegal activity, to prevent imminent bodily harm, or to protect ourselves and you from people violating our Statement of Rights and Responsibilities. This may include sharing information with other companies, lawyers, courts or other government entities.
>Since the site is fairly anti-apple,
PJ was pretty much rabidly pro-Apple in her assessment of Apple vs. Psystar. So much so you got called a troll if you didn't agree.
So i'd say that your assessment of Groklaw is wrong.
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Oh, look, it's another person suggesting that consumer level electronics be used for space-rated applications and saying it would be cheaper. Despite all those labels and warnings saying "this won't work below freezing or significantly above 50C.
You send certified space rated electronics up because once you send it up on the rocket, you're not going to go up and repair it if it doesn't work. If it doesn't work, you're out the full amount of money you spent, plus you have a hunk of junk orbiting the Earth creating a collision hazard for all the other valid pieces of tech in orbit. We spend money on space-rated electronics because in the long run it's actually cheaper.
This is a dumb idea.
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> I've often wondered why we don't see more persistent infections given how firmware is handled these days.
Because writing malware for bioses and firmware means you have to be able to insert your bits of evil into firmware for a multitude of versions of Phoenix BIOS, AMI BIOS, EFI, etc. And that's hard work.
Just look at the OpenBIOS project. Just trying to get that to work on a bunch of motherboards and to stay up to date is sisyphean.
It's more productive to write malware for the OS. It's much less heterogeneous. It was blairq, I believe, on here that likened Windows to a field of cloned sweet corn's succeptibility to disease.
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> Thte Christian Taliban Party doesn't deserve power.
I agree, and it was a mistake to court them.
Barry Goldwater warned the leadership and said that the Republicans would never be rid of them, implying they'd be harmful to the party in the long run. He was right.
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Why use a bogus tool like LOIC though? The only way to reconfigure it is to re-write it. Instead of, you know, using switches and options on the command line.
Like mz.
The only people who use LOIC are the ones too stupid to use mz.
http://www.perihel.at/sec/mz/mzguide.html
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>You do know LOIC is a generic, open-source, you-specify-the-target DoS/stress-testing tool, right?
Yes. Who doesn't?
>Yes, there are modified versions to automatically join some collective attack, but downloading and using the original is no more "turning your computer's control to someone" than downloading and using any other binary.
But that's not how it works in practice. Typically it's "join my botnet jihad against the RIAA or Scientology" and you download a LOIC already pre-targeted for whatever.
If it's just going to be you, yourself using LOIC, you may as well be sending out "ping -s 65507 example.com."
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>1) Microsoft is centralizing the data collection and Governments could subpoena them for information about an individual.
>2) A malicious individual could intercept the data as its transferred and decrypt it.
So how is that any different than Debian's popcon? Hint: it isn't.
You're wrong. The actual problem is that it's opt-out. And most people just don't even know the option to turn it off is even there.
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>Apple doesn't know that I downloaded LOIC
Anyone who installs LOIC is a dumbass of epic proportions. No, really. It's not infectious or anything, but the mere idea of turning your computer's control to someone who you don't know, never met, and shouldn't trust, isn't exactly bright.
Just so you know.
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"While SmartScreen is enabled by default, it's possible for users to turn it off."
And this is what's wrong with this setup. Debian has popcon, which is a survey of what you use and how often you use it, and you can participate by having a cronjob send off the file.
http://popcon.debian.org/README
But it's not a privacy concern because it's opt-in.
If this equivalent of popcon on 8 was opt-in, this thread wouldn't be here.
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>But you guys should be offended too.
I do. I don't put up with it.
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In an up economy, it should be 300.
Did it for a few years. Walking barefoot with your pants rolled up in the middle of winter to locate a stream centerline isn't as cold as it sounds, though.
Hip waders? Bah.
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Many rental laws give you the right to self-fix and deduct from the next rent payment. Look into them wherever you live.
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As long as you're going to foot the bill for a $500 application that changes your computer's wallpaper.
PEs and PLSs, doctors, psychologists, etc, all carry liability insurance. They're also not cheap. In the 80s, a survey crew cost $100/hr to come out and measure your land with a half-day minimum.
Now apply these costs to software.
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> I meant it was interesting that you differentiate between "sharing binaries" and "copyright infringement."
Well, there is a difference. One is typically a subset of the other. I'll let you guess which. :-P
>There ARE free usenet servers that are text-only.
That there are.
> sort of a reverse "Eternal September" if you will.
Funny, that's the name of the one I use. http://www.eternal-september.org/
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I am running a breeding program to produce smart cats with opposable thumbs on my secret tropical island in the Pacific.
They can already open their own cans of catfood.
You are all doomed.
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It's in the Sun, Mail, NY Post, Boston Herald, and last but not least, Fox.
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Also
>Please look up the definition of "doubling down". I don't think you understand what it means.
I understand exactly what it means. It means if I think I have a good hand I double my bet and I can get *only* one card. Doubling down is "putting your money where your mouth is" and risking twice as much because you're confident the next card will win.
If you've got a different definition, I'd like to see you tell it to a blackjack dealer.
It is applicable in this case because the likes of Huckabee and King did all they could do to defend what Aikin said, and the other fundies will continue to back Aikin's words. Ryan would be doing it, but he's the VP candidate so he can't look too nutty, even though his past actions and speech endorsed exactly what Aikin talked about.
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Can yoiu honestly, sincerely think it's a 'war on women'?
Yes. You want to force a woman who has been raped to go through a traumatizing 9 months gestation and to bring up a baby she didn't want or ask for.
>Pregnancy isn't seen as punishment for a moral failing.
Bullshit. Because if you had any empathy at all, you'd let a rape victim abort. But you don't have any empathy None. Zero. The callousness is just so jarring.
It's funny how people like you decry Sharia Law, but Sharia Law is exactly what you want, but with a different name. You offend me.
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King, Huckabee, the head of the AFA, and other American Taliban are defending Akin.
And the defenses keep rolling in.
Not only is what Akin said just Akin, it's a philosophical thread that runs through nearly all of hyper-Calvinist American Taliban. If you watched the interview, he thought he was being absolutly rational. He's not the first one to say shit like this. Paul Ryan was a co-sponsor of the cynically named "Sanctity of Human Life Act" which *at best* made medically necessary abortions legally iffy if not outright banned. Like the Texas GOP platform plank and now the National GOP platform plank, there was no provision for the life of the mother, or rape victims, or incest victims.
So no, Aikin is not an outlier.
Akin will stay, and the Republicans will be forced to defend him, because not to means that they will be abandoning their Teahadist religious fundamentalists who have backed them through thick and thin. They will continue down this road of Christian Dominionism because at this point they have no way of moving back to the center without pissing off their "base" and drying up their election funds. Down this road lies party dissolution like what happened to the Whigs and they have no way off the path.
And yes, I want Akin to stay, because he symbolizes exactly what the Republicans have been doing for the last 30 years: chasing out anyone who even questions the radical fundamentalists who have taken over the party. You get branded a RINO and then you are defeated in the primary. They made their bed now they get to sleep in it. Tough bananas.
Votes for Obama like mana from the sky.
I can't wait
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>I haven't found a formal announcement of the 2012 platform
Because it just came out of committee. It will be announced at the convention. There is no PDF to download yet.
However, read this:
That is from the Texas GOP plaform. http://s3.amazonaws.com/texasgop_pre/assets/original/2012Platform_Final.pdf Linked from the Texas GOP site itself.
What has been reported is a near word-for-word clone of the Texas GOP platform plank, so I'm going to go with assuming it's true, because so goes Texas, so does the rest of the GOP.
There are no provisions for rape, incest, or illness if you read the Texas document. Because tubal pregnancies are God's Will and since a fertilized egg implanted in a fallopian tube is a full-blown PERSON granted 14'th amendment protection in their fantasy, then abortion is murder, even though it will kill the mother. And that woman who got raped? She was asking for it. That little girl that got molested by her Uncle Stan? If she hadn't been so sexy, he wouldn't have been so weak and manipulated into getting her pregnant. See, it's all so very simple.
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>Maybe you've seen organic versions of the same psychology? Such as Christians who don't think you are christian if you don't believe something they do?
Baptists, mostly Southern Convention, believe that Catholics aren't Christian (really, ask them). The same with other protestant denominations - the ones who pretend to be literalists.
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... is that the Republicans are hosed this November if they continue to double down on all of this.
And this is one of their central tenets on rape, that there is "legitimate rape" and "well, it's not rape-rape, because she had an orgasm" or "she deserved it because she dressed like a slut and forced the weak spined guy to rape her." It is so central to the "pregnancy as punishment for moral failing" in fundie circles that they will not relinquish this point. Because to relinquish it means they could be wrong on other things about pregnancy and abortion too. It's a point of faith held very deeply.
Which is why the GOP platform calls for a constitutional ban on abortion with no exceptions for rape.
But don't you dare call it a war on women. Right? *spit*
So get the popcorn, and find your favorite chair, because this is going to be an epic amount of derp.
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Yeah, heaven forbid that I use Usenet for its original purpose and that I'm still slightly miffed that massive piracy in the binaries newsgroups is the real reason why my ISP and others no longer carry it, over the excuse that there are child porn newsgroups. All because the NY state AG, Eliot Spitzer, wanted to get some political hay being a soldier in the good fight against child porn. As if the ISPs didn't have the choice of merely dropping the kiddie porn groups, no no.
So the ISPs got their excuse and dropped usenet entirely because it was a cost center from all the bandwidth and disk space that the binaries took up.
Of course I differentiate between the two.
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Well even the kiddies know about usenet these days, but they think it's just for sharing binaries and copyright infringement.
Yea verily.
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FB bots already troll for illegal content and if something is spotted, it's forwarded to "the man."
There was something about this here not too long ago, but I can't be arsed to look it up.
1. Don't be stupid and post potentially illegal/threatening stuff to your FB page, whether you think it's private or not. It's not. Read your privacy policy. Act as if FB is some weird version of usenet and you'll be fine. Also, if you are bent on revolution, no revolution ever really got started by doing the organizing in public. At least not at first.
Thus sayeth the FB privacy policy:
https://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=+322194465300
2. See 1. And if you still don't understand it, keep reading 1 until you do.
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