I have access to a shell account across town and I don't have root access (it's not my machine). Whatever I need I build from source and be done with it. You only have to build it once.
The build instructions for postgresql doesn't seem complicated. You just need to know which features you want.
No, I have listened and watched. I have heard talk radio from its modest beginnings here in New England, back when it was new through its eventual evolution to what it is now, and what I hear on the AM dial hurts my head. I used to listen to Limbaugh regularly back in the early 90s and he was entertaining back then, but he's just turned into an angry old man whose invective is wildly wrong and frankly coarse and offensive. I'm appalled by the pile of garbage talk radio has become. Hannity, Levin, Savage, et al., are all cokie-cutter outrage-machines whose only intent is to inflame.
It has even happened to local talk radio. The stupid shit on the AM dial these days from local hosts make me pine for the days of Sherm Strickhauser (WHJJ/WPRO) and David Brudnoy(WBZ who once did a fantastic interview with Ron Paul), back when you could actually learn something from listening. The last of the thoughtful ones, Arlene Violet, left the air in 2006 and went back to practicing law full time.
Talk radio has become unlistenable to anyone with at least two neurons to rub together. Outrage sells. Sanity and knowledge doesn't.
Similarly, Fox doesn't report news anymore. They have become the propaganda wing of the radical right in the Republican Party. They even went to court as an amicus in Florida to say that they have the right to lie in news over the air and won. They have a single token "reasonable person" as an anchor in Shepard Smith, but that's about it. Having Shepard Smith doesn't make up for all the other crap on Fox.
>ownership of production
I guess you're talking about the bailout of GM and Chrysler.
Funny how that doesn't make GWB socialist. Funny how GWB did TARP and that doesn't make him a socialist either. And for all the worshipping of St. Ronnie people like you do on the right, you conveniently forget that he also bailed out Chrysler. And they didn't call it socialism back then either.
You don't know what socialism is, and to call Obama socialist means you are using your own private definition of socialism. Because it's certainly not the accepted one. You are deliberately abusing language, to use the word "socialism" as a weapon. Trying to reason with someone who can't use a generally accepted definition of a term is impossible. Such a person has abandoned reason.
>As the word is used in the USA, Obama is a socialist
No, the only people who think Obama is a socialist are the idiots who listen to Limbaugh, Buchanan, Coulter, and the rest of the idiotic pundits on Fox "news" and talk radio.
Obama is about as socialist as Ronnie Reagan or Nixon.
People like you don't even know what socialism is and have misused the word to the point where it doesn't mean anything other than "anything I don't like is socialism."
You fucks would call Barry Goldwater a RINO because he said that gays in the military are just fine (you don't need to be straight, just shoot straight).
The one strategy that GNOME has never tried is asking users what they want. Instead, the project has preferred to rely on usability theory, treating it as an exact science instead of a collection of competing^W contradictory (fixed) ideas supported by usually inconclusive studies that could be mustered to support almost any design.
And thus we are also stuck with Metro^W "The Interface That Dare Not Speak Its Name."
Gnome's insistence on "the one true way" sound so much like the justifying of putting a touch interface on a desktop operating system I've been hearing for months. "LOOK AT THE HEAT MAP!!!#$!@#$ONE!"
Fuck heat maps. Ask the users what they want. The only reason why Jobs got away with what he got away with at Apple and being the sole final arbiter of what what went into an Apple device was that he actually understood what people wanted. That's a rare talent that people think they have but don't. The rest of us have to ask.
These are the same people who spread anti-vaccine propaganda and all sorts of nonsense. It's ad-hominem, but to say that they are not reliable is putting it mildly.
Incidents like Chernobyl happened due to cheap building and cheaper maintenance;
No, Chernobyl happened because they completely botched an experiment in one of the worst reactor designs going - a graphite reactor known as the RBMK design. The Russians got the Latvians to finally shut theirs down like a year or two ago. Graphite reactors are *old* and basically unsafe if you do anything outside the design envelope. They will reliably produce heat for your boilers, but don't fuck with them.
You should read the wikipedia page on the accident. It's pretty thorough and one of the better pages in wikipedia.
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PS: How old are graphite reactors? They go as far back as the Chicago Pile-1 in 1942. Nobody designs graphite reactors anymore because the hot graphite has a nasty habit of catching fire when exposed to oxygen, as in the case of Chernobyl.
But over the following weeks and months, the fear grew that the ultimate victims of this damaged nuke would number in the thousands or tens of thousands. The 'hot spots' in Japan that frightened many people showed radiation at the level of.1 rem, a number quite small compared with the average excess dose that people happily live with in Denver. What explains the disparity? Why this enormous difference in what is considered an acceptable level of exposure to radiation?"
Because the government and the electrical utility had been completely opaque and not forthcoming with any useful information and preferred to treat the public like children and tell them to go pound sand at public meetings. The government's handling of this from the beginning was a textbook example of how to *not* handle something like this.
So what do people do when they can't get any valid information from their own government? Assume the government is covering it up and assume the worst. And there are plenty of people out there willing to fill the information void with the most outlandish "facts" going.
"Nuclear" includes fusion. But consider this: Fusion has been "5 years away" for 40 years.
And it will continue to be "5 years away" for another 40 years. In the meantime, we should be building fission plants based on standard designs. And we should bring back breeder reactors, so we can make more fuel out of used fuel.
But that's not going to happen because of the politics of shrill earth-firsters and others who don't understand nuclear and who think that every nuclear plant is Fukushima or Chernobyl.
And none of that has anything to do with whether Obama is a "foreigner", which he isn't, or a socialist, which he isn't.
While your complaints are valid, your anger is directed in the wrong direction, which makes you a dumbass. On top of this, you think Obama was born in Kenya or some stupid shit like that. Which makes you a birther. Which also makes you a dumbass of epic proportions.
Fucking this. God forbid they see a fucking windmill. I live here in the Northeast and the fucking Cape Wind project should have been finished 5 years ago (I may be exaggerating) but for the fucking douchebags on Nantucket being butthurt seeing windmills on the horizon TEN FUCKING MILES AWAY.
We could have a combination of wind, solar, tide, and nuclear weaning our asses off of the middle-eastern oil, but no, NIMBYism abounds. So we continue to get our asses mired in the middle east, where politics is not just a social structure, but a full contact sport with no rules and every day being a grudge match over slights done 1500 years ago.
We're fucking masochists wanting to be a part of that. We must be. No other explanation make sense.
I think it's an outgrowth of the entire PR industry. Instead of issuing press releases through prnewswire.com and others, you buy journalists and pundits to push what is essentially a press release, but under the guise of a third party endorsement.
It's a really cynical way to do things. But then DiDio, Lyin' Lyons, Endull, Bott, etc, all did it before Florian did.
For PostgreSQL the only instructions I could find for installing PostgreSQL myself is to build from source
You don't have access to precompiled postgresql binaries in your repositories? Why? Why are you not using a Linux distro with package management? Why are you not using a Linux distribution that supports postgresql like Ubuntu, Redhat, SuSE, etc?
FFS, even Pardus supports postgresql.
And if you're using Windows, Postgresql has a one-click Windows installer.
I think that at this point, it was bloody obvious that Florian was a "paid for opinion" going back a few years. The first sign was probably was when he became a hired gun telling Munich that the skies would darken with lawyers over patents if they went through with their migration.
And he's dodged the question ever since, especially on LWN, even though everyone "knows" that he's been bought off, because no sane person would hold his opinions. It's actually better for people to consider you bought off instead of insane, no?
"I've long been a lifetime account holder of an old textdrive (now Joyent) cloud hosting account. I remember purchasing the account back in college for a few hundred bucks when I really didn't have the money to spend. *SNIP* For reference, this was the original offer. In it, they state: 'How long is it good for? As long as we exist.'"
If that's indeed what the contract stated, then walk into small claims court and ask that your money be refunded because they violated the terms of their own contract. No, you don't need a lawyer. Just a copy of the contract and what they said. Learn how to use the wayback machine to show historical statements that it's "for as long as we exist." It shouldn't take longer than an hour to gather this info up. Then it's to small claims, where you represent yourself, and they're not allowed to send a lawyer if they send anyone at all.
The only other question to ask is "how much is my time worth?" - to follow through or to just say "fuckit" and consider it a lesson in consumer science.
Someone mentioned class action. You'll get nothing in a class action. At best you'll get a coupon for further services that you don't want since you are now a former customer.
But it's the gene itself that is being patented. Not the method of taking the picture. Because PCR has been around long before the existence of the gene. Are you seriously arguing that combining PCR with a snippet of a *naturally occurring* breast cancer gene does anything different than previous snippets of *naturally occurring* genes through PCR?
The amount of logical twisting to justify the judge's point of view.
This was not plagiarism. This is how things were done. Calling it plagiarism is demeaning to the efforts made to spread information back then. They didn't have the mass media that we have today. There weren't even analogous syndication services like AP and Reuters to syndicate columns and act as clearing houses for news articles. The societal infrastructure for syndication simply wasn't there. There were no methods for collecting royalties on articles except being paid through the local paper. Stuff got repeated and nobody got their panties in a twist. It's different today, because there are mechanisms in place for attribution and for people to get fairly paid.
Plagiarism is the *wrongful* appropriation of literary content. Back then it wasn't wrongful. Ergo, TFA calling it plagiarism is intellectually dishonest, at best.
But we're not talking about nylon, a purely synthetic molecule, we're talking about "photocopies" (PCRed) of a naturally occurring molecule. The molecule itself is in nature. I said this earlier, and I'll say it again: this is like patenting a mountain because you took a picture of it, because you claim the picture is a manmade creation.
> The product of PCR generally does not occur in that form in nature. It is a manufactured nucleic acid
Perhaps you don't understand PCR yourself. PCR makes identical copies of the molecule. It's the way PCR works. It's the same molecule as found in nature, just run through a metaphorical photocopier enough times to make it easier to handle.
Your logic is like saying saying you can patent a mountain because you took a picture of it.
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And the other comm typo is "flourescence."
It gives off flour.
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Then that sheds a lot of light on the situation.
I have access to a shell account across town and I don't have root access (it's not my machine). Whatever I need I build from source and be done with it. You only have to build it once.
The build instructions for postgresql doesn't seem complicated. You just need to know which features you want.
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/static/install-procedure.html
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>merely aping
No, I have listened and watched. I have heard talk radio from its modest beginnings here in New England, back when it was new through its eventual evolution to what it is now, and what I hear on the AM dial hurts my head. I used to listen to Limbaugh regularly back in the early 90s and he was entertaining back then, but he's just turned into an angry old man whose invective is wildly wrong and frankly coarse and offensive. I'm appalled by the pile of garbage talk radio has become. Hannity, Levin, Savage, et al., are all cokie-cutter outrage-machines whose only intent is to inflame.
It has even happened to local talk radio. The stupid shit on the AM dial these days from local hosts make me pine for the days of Sherm Strickhauser (WHJJ/WPRO) and David Brudnoy(WBZ who once did a fantastic interview with Ron Paul), back when you could actually learn something from listening. The last of the thoughtful ones, Arlene Violet, left the air in 2006 and went back to practicing law full time.
Talk radio has become unlistenable to anyone with at least two neurons to rub together. Outrage sells. Sanity and knowledge doesn't.
Similarly, Fox doesn't report news anymore. They have become the propaganda wing of the radical right in the Republican Party. They even went to court as an amicus in Florida to say that they have the right to lie in news over the air and won. They have a single token "reasonable person" as an anchor in Shepard Smith, but that's about it. Having Shepard Smith doesn't make up for all the other crap on Fox.
>ownership of production
I guess you're talking about the bailout of GM and Chrysler.
http://www.thedetroitbureau.com/2012/02/bush-would-do-it-again-on-auto-bailouts/
Funny how that doesn't make GWB socialist. Funny how GWB did TARP and that doesn't make him a socialist either. And for all the worshipping of St. Ronnie people like you do on the right, you conveniently forget that he also bailed out Chrysler. And they didn't call it socialism back then either.
You don't know what socialism is, and to call Obama socialist means you are using your own private definition of socialism. Because it's certainly not the accepted one. You are deliberately abusing language, to use the word "socialism" as a weapon. Trying to reason with someone who can't use a generally accepted definition of a term is impossible. Such a person has abandoned reason.
Bye.
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but there was also a private enterprise involved that was equally incompetent
I said:
>the government and the electrical utility
Did I actually have to come out and say TEPCO? Really?
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>As the word is used in the USA, Obama is a socialist
No, the only people who think Obama is a socialist are the idiots who listen to Limbaugh, Buchanan, Coulter, and the rest of the idiotic pundits on Fox "news" and talk radio.
Obama is about as socialist as Ronnie Reagan or Nixon.
People like you don't even know what socialism is and have misused the word to the point where it doesn't mean anything other than "anything I don't like is socialism."
You fucks would call Barry Goldwater a RINO because he said that gays in the military are just fine (you don't need to be straight, just shoot straight).
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You're going to have to be more artful and sincere than that.
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The one strategy that GNOME has never tried is asking users what they want. Instead, the project has preferred to rely on usability theory, treating it as an exact science instead of a collection of competing^W contradictory (fixed) ideas supported by usually inconclusive studies that could be mustered to support almost any design.
And thus we are also stuck with Metro^W "The Interface That Dare Not Speak Its Name."
Gnome's insistence on "the one true way" sound so much like the justifying of putting a touch interface on a desktop operating system I've been hearing for months. "LOOK AT THE HEAT MAP!!!#$!@#$ONE!"
Fuck heat maps. Ask the users what they want. The only reason why Jobs got away with what he got away with at Apple and being the sole final arbiter of what what went into an Apple device was that he actually understood what people wanted. That's a rare talent that people think they have but don't. The rest of us have to ask.
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>naturalnews
These are the same people who spread anti-vaccine propaganda and all sorts of nonsense. It's ad-hominem, but to say that they are not reliable is putting it mildly.
>no scale on map
Well that's useful.
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Incidents like Chernobyl happened due to cheap building and cheaper maintenance;
No, Chernobyl happened because they completely botched an experiment in one of the worst reactor designs going - a graphite reactor known as the RBMK design. The Russians got the Latvians to finally shut theirs down like a year or two ago. Graphite reactors are *old* and basically unsafe if you do anything outside the design envelope. They will reliably produce heat for your boilers, but don't fuck with them.
You should read the wikipedia page on the accident. It's pretty thorough and one of the better pages in wikipedia.
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PS: How old are graphite reactors? They go as far back as the Chicago Pile-1 in 1942. Nobody designs graphite reactors anymore because the hot graphite has a nasty habit of catching fire when exposed to oxygen, as in the case of Chernobyl.
But over the following weeks and months, the fear grew that the ultimate victims of this damaged nuke would number in the thousands or tens of thousands. The 'hot spots' in Japan that frightened many people showed radiation at the level of .1 rem, a number quite small compared with the average excess dose that people happily live with in Denver. What explains the disparity? Why this enormous difference in what is considered an acceptable level of exposure to radiation?"
Because the government and the electrical utility had been completely opaque and not forthcoming with any useful information and preferred to treat the public like children and tell them to go pound sand at public meetings. The government's handling of this from the beginning was a textbook example of how to *not* handle something like this.
So what do people do when they can't get any valid information from their own government? Assume the government is covering it up and assume the worst. And there are plenty of people out there willing to fill the information void with the most outlandish "facts" going.
That's why.
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"Nuclear" includes fusion. But consider this: Fusion has been "5 years away" for 40 years.
And it will continue to be "5 years away" for another 40 years. In the meantime, we should be building fission plants based on standard designs. And we should bring back breeder reactors, so we can make more fuel out of used fuel.
But that's not going to happen because of the politics of shrill earth-firsters and others who don't understand nuclear and who think that every nuclear plant is Fukushima or Chernobyl.
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And none of that has anything to do with whether Obama is a "foreigner", which he isn't, or a socialist, which he isn't.
While your complaints are valid, your anger is directed in the wrong direction, which makes you a dumbass. On top of this, you think Obama was born in Kenya or some stupid shit like that. Which makes you a birther. Which also makes you a dumbass of epic proportions.
>unfounded personal attacks against me
Go be unproductively mad somewhere else.
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the true nature of this racist socialist foreigner has been revealed
Being dumbass and a birther is no way to go through life, son.
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We elected a socialist to lead our country
Are you really this stupid?
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... that the economy is still in the shitter.
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forbid some rich dude has see an oil platform...
Fucking this. God forbid they see a fucking windmill. I live here in the Northeast and the fucking Cape Wind project should have been finished 5 years ago (I may be exaggerating) but for the fucking douchebags on Nantucket being butthurt seeing windmills on the horizon TEN FUCKING MILES AWAY.
We could have a combination of wind, solar, tide, and nuclear weaning our asses off of the middle-eastern oil, but no, NIMBYism abounds. So we continue to get our asses mired in the middle east, where politics is not just a social structure, but a full contact sport with no rules and every day being a grudge match over slights done 1500 years ago.
We're fucking masochists wanting to be a part of that. We must be. No other explanation make sense.
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I think it's an outgrowth of the entire PR industry. Instead of issuing press releases through prnewswire.com and others, you buy journalists and pundits to push what is essentially a press release, but under the guise of a third party endorsement.
It's a really cynical way to do things. But then DiDio, Lyin' Lyons, Endull, Bott, etc, all did it before Florian did.
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For PostgreSQL the only instructions I could find for installing PostgreSQL myself is to build from source
You don't have access to precompiled postgresql binaries in your repositories? Why? Why are you not using a Linux distro with package management? Why are you not using a Linux distribution that supports postgresql like Ubuntu, Redhat, SuSE, etc?
FFS, even Pardus supports postgresql.
And if you're using Windows, Postgresql has a one-click Windows installer.
I call shenanigans.
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I think that at this point, it was bloody obvious that Florian was a "paid for opinion" going back a few years. The first sign was probably was when he became a hired gun telling Munich that the skies would darken with lawyers over patents if they went through with their migration.
And he's dodged the question ever since, especially on LWN, even though everyone "knows" that he's been bought off, because no sane person would hold his opinions. It's actually better for people to consider you bought off instead of insane, no?
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"I've long been a lifetime account holder of an old textdrive (now Joyent) cloud hosting account. I remember purchasing the account back in college for a few hundred bucks when I really didn't have the money to spend. *SNIP* For reference, this was the original offer. In it, they state: 'How long is it good for? As long as we exist.'"
If that's indeed what the contract stated, then walk into small claims court and ask that your money be refunded because they violated the terms of their own contract. No, you don't need a lawyer. Just a copy of the contract and what they said. Learn how to use the wayback machine to show historical statements that it's "for as long as we exist." It shouldn't take longer than an hour to gather this info up. Then it's to small claims, where you represent yourself, and they're not allowed to send a lawyer if they send anyone at all.
The only other question to ask is "how much is my time worth?" - to follow through or to just say "fuckit" and consider it a lesson in consumer science.
Someone mentioned class action. You'll get nothing in a class action. At best you'll get a coupon for further services that you don't want since you are now a former customer.
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He says they're not too bright. "'Scuse us while we treat them as our idiot cousins."
And now a song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_EyXPs2_Jk
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But it's the gene itself that is being patented. Not the method of taking the picture. Because PCR has been around long before the existence of the gene. Are you seriously arguing that combining PCR with a snippet of a *naturally occurring* breast cancer gene does anything different than previous snippets of *naturally occurring* genes through PCR?
The amount of logical twisting to justify the judge's point of view.
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This was not plagiarism. This is how things were done. Calling it plagiarism is demeaning to the efforts made to spread information back then. They didn't have the mass media that we have today. There weren't even analogous syndication services like AP and Reuters to syndicate columns and act as clearing houses for news articles. The societal infrastructure for syndication simply wasn't there. There were no methods for collecting royalties on articles except being paid through the local paper. Stuff got repeated and nobody got their panties in a twist. It's different today, because there are mechanisms in place for attribution and for people to get fairly paid.
Plagiarism is the *wrongful* appropriation of literary content. Back then it wasn't wrongful. Ergo, TFA calling it plagiarism is intellectually dishonest, at best.
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Tell that to the inventor of nylon.
But we're not talking about nylon, a purely synthetic molecule, we're talking about "photocopies" (PCRed) of a naturally occurring molecule. The molecule itself is in nature. I said this earlier, and I'll say it again: this is like patenting a mountain because you took a picture of it, because you claim the picture is a manmade creation.
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> The product of PCR generally does not occur in that form in nature. It is a manufactured nucleic acid
Perhaps you don't understand PCR yourself. PCR makes identical copies of the molecule. It's the way PCR works. It's the same molecule as found in nature, just run through a metaphorical photocopier enough times to make it easier to handle.
Your logic is like saying saying you can patent a mountain because you took a picture of it.
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