If YOU had to choose between one of the following, which would it be.
1) Live without any electricity in your home for the rest of your life
_or_
2) Have a species of salamnders, unique to a wetlands near you, go extinct.
It's easy for everybody to whine about how others are killing the environment. But all the environmentalists I know in CA still drive around in their SUVs.
When in the last 10 years the population has doubled and the number of power plants has remained the same, there isn't a thing you can do. They can't just shut off the infrustructure that exists to allow people to live (like traffic lights and such) to help save electricity. It just doesn't work. When your population doubles, so should your power output.
I used to predict a certain doom for Linux because of the mentality of the loudest Linux users. Of course there are still many RTFM people out there, but I am reading more posts from people who agree with my belief that in order to truly love Linux one needs to be able to criticize its faults. This is a great step for Linux. I am glad random flames get a 0 score sending the message against elitism.
As to the article itself, I thought it was an interesting read, but the comments made are deprecated due to an older version of COL. It would be like criticizing Win 3.1; What's the point? I am just annoyed that such a misleading article was published on CNN.
But even with such a blatant mistake as using a terribly old OS, they got it running, and the flames haven't flooded/. which is a big success for Linux. Now perhaps I'll be able to suggest a solution for the bug in Linux known as the sound architecture (or the lack thereof).:)
Whenever the ISDA releases a report saying piracy has cost the industry $400 billion in sales or whatever. It is bogus. Piracy isn't like stealing a car where one can say the stolen car was a loss of $20,000. If piracy didn't exist, college kids wouldn't throw up there arms and say, "oh well, now I have to buy 3dsmax". Software piracy IMHO is more important on the unknowing level. I've talked to many business owners who don't know its a crime when they take their office 2000 CD and install it everywhere. One business with 100 copies of office 2000 with one license is where the real piracy is. Because that company would actually BUY 100 copies because they have the money and it isn't just a pirate thing.
MP3s are different. I know many people who just download MP3s to have them, (I doubt anybody could ever listen to about 5000 hours evenly) and I am not sure how many CDs are actually not purchased because an MP3 was available.
Downloaded movies are an awkward piracy issue. I personally believe that most people who want to watch a movie will go to the theater to really see the movie. Even if it is available on some site. They are just so crappy, so large, and so bad. I don't think any real sales are being hurt by downloaded MPEGs. Pressed VCDs in Taiwan are a different issue though.
Just my thoughts on the actual situation of software piracy.
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Well said.
If Windows9X or NT used XFree86's X server as its GUI, there would be more people pointing this out. You have to truely love Linux to be able to point out it (and its components) flaws in order to make it better.
Imaging Windows running with XFree86, people would say that it is running on an arcane legacy code that MS kept in because they cannot truely innovate anything from scratch. And that it is so slow and clunky. That it is difficult to use because of its poor design.
I feel that this extend X can only make it worse. I also don't know why anybody pointing out a problem in Linux is always flamed for being to stupid and that they should be smarter and overlook what they think is a problem in Linux because it is Linux.
Very true. I agree on all counts except about the distributions. I think each distribution should be as unique as they wish to be. Those that wish to appeal to hackers can be difficult to manage. And those that wish to be easy and intuitive can do that. As long as distributions do not require weird hacking of programs to make them install, there is no harm. Instead of getting a Learn Linux book, get a learn SuSE book. Or whatever. I think the open source / linux community will be faced with a real challenge in resolving/acknowledging its own weakness.
It seems apparent to me that you do not want people to use Linux. It is some kind of club. "All of us who like to edit a configuration file in some deeply hidden location to change the bpp of X windows will use Linux, and those who don't can just use their own desktops." I just hope that enough people who actually develop software aren't as ignorant as you.
Although the article might be off topic, I think it really has a point. Open source has proven that it can produce top quality programs by incredible developers. As a server, Linux can only establish a stronger dominance. That is because when you want your website running faster, it isn't a big deal as a system administrator to figure out how to tune Linux.
However, Linux is now beginning to struggle in the desktop environment. It is my opinion that open source development will only now be put to the test. Let's face it, as of now I cannot copy and paste in X windows. Sure there are a slew of programs the work together, kde, gnome. But what about the thousands of other programs. Should they just remain at odds with the rest of the desktop?
Nobody in the Linux community likes standards. Why? Because a standard is by definition NOT open source. Anybody and everybody cannot change a standard when they think that it needs tweaking or else it is not a standard. This idea frightens GNU maniacs. It is my challenge to the Linux community to suck in our pride and declare certain protocols as the best in theory that can be made. Then finalize them.
Perhaps we can then finally get a standard way to play sounds, video, games on the console, x windows GUI continuity.
This isn't to say that we have to abide by one snippet of code. But rather a protocol. To play a sound you open an IPC to the registered sound daemon. If that were specified, it doesn't mean you can't switch that sound daemon for a faster one. As long as they work the same at the surface level.
I have a RedHat 5.2 system that I had running 2.0.36 without any problems. It is a dual pentium pro system so I decided that it would be to my advantage to upgrade to 2.2 pre 4 for performance reasons. When I did so, things appeared to be working. However, it crashes everytime I use repquota to check user quotas.
I compiled quota support into my new 2.2 kernel and everything. However the crash is very dependent and it leaves the system running but nobody capable of logging in. Has anybody else had this problem? Has it been fixed some time between pre 4 and pre 6? Or might it be something that I am doing dreadfully wrong. I would have tried upgrading to 2.2 pre 6 except that I cannot afford to crash the computer because it is in a locked closet and a hassle for me to get in to reboot manually.
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Hehe.. Just answer me this:
If YOU had to choose between one of the following, which would it be.
1) Live without any electricity in your home for the rest of your life
_or_
2) Have a species of salamnders, unique to a wetlands near you, go extinct.
It's easy for everybody to whine about how others are killing the environment. But all the environmentalists I know in CA still drive around in their SUVs.
Haha.. We are saving power. But you know what?
When in the last 10 years the population has doubled and the number of power plants has remained the same, there isn't a thing you can do. They can't just shut off the infrustructure that exists to allow people to live (like traffic lights and such) to help save electricity. It just doesn't work. When your population doubles, so should your power output.
Willow was a good fantasy movie. Hands down the best yet.
I used to predict a certain doom for Linux because of the mentality of the loudest Linux users. Of course there are still many RTFM people out there, but I am reading more posts from people who agree with my belief that in order to truly love Linux one needs to be able to criticize its faults. This is a great step for Linux. I am glad random flames get a 0 score sending the message against elitism.
/. which is a big success for Linux. Now perhaps I'll be able to suggest a solution for the bug in Linux known as the sound architecture (or the lack thereof). :)
As to the article itself, I thought it was an interesting read, but the comments made are deprecated due to an older version of COL. It would be like criticizing Win 3.1; What's the point? I am just annoyed that such a misleading article was published on CNN.
But even with such a blatant mistake as using a terribly old OS, they got it running, and the flames haven't flooded
Whenever the ISDA releases a report saying piracy has cost the industry $400 billion in sales or whatever. It is bogus. Piracy isn't like stealing a car where one can say the stolen car was a loss of $20,000. If piracy didn't exist, college kids wouldn't throw up there arms and say, "oh well, now I have to buy 3dsmax". Software piracy IMHO is more important on the unknowing level. I've talked to many business owners who don't know its a crime when they take their office 2000 CD and install it everywhere. One business with 100 copies of office 2000 with one license is where the real piracy is. Because that company would actually BUY 100 copies because they have the money and it isn't just a pirate thing.
MP3s are different. I know many people who just download MP3s to have them, (I doubt anybody could ever listen to about 5000 hours evenly) and I am not sure how many CDs are actually not purchased because an MP3 was available.
Downloaded movies are an awkward piracy issue. I personally believe that most people who want to watch a movie will go to the theater to really see the movie. Even if it is available on some site. They are just so crappy, so large, and so bad. I don't think any real sales are being hurt by downloaded MPEGs. Pressed VCDs in Taiwan are a different issue though.
Just my thoughts on the actual situation of software piracy.
Well said.
If Windows9X or NT used XFree86's X server as its GUI, there would be more people pointing this out. You have to truely love Linux to be able to point out it (and its components) flaws in order to make it better.
Imaging Windows running with XFree86, people would say that it is running on an arcane legacy code that MS kept in because they cannot truely innovate anything from scratch. And that it is so slow and clunky. That it is difficult to use because of its poor design.
I feel that this extend X can only make it worse. I also don't know why anybody pointing out a problem in Linux is always flamed for being to stupid and that they should be smarter and overlook what they think is a problem in Linux because it is Linux.
Just my thoughts on the matter.
Very true. I agree on all counts except about the distributions. I think each distribution should be as unique as they wish to be. Those that wish to appeal to hackers can be difficult to manage. And those that wish to be easy and intuitive can do that. As long as distributions do not require weird hacking of programs to make them install, there is no harm. Instead of getting a Learn Linux book, get a learn SuSE book. Or whatever. I think the open source / linux community will be faced with a real challenge in resolving/acknowledging its own weakness.
It seems apparent to me that you do not want people to use Linux. It is some kind of club. "All of us who like to edit a configuration file in some deeply hidden location to change the bpp of X windows will use Linux, and those who don't can just use their own desktops."
I just hope that enough people who actually develop software aren't as ignorant as you.
Although the article might be off topic, I think it really has a point. Open source has proven that it can produce top quality programs by incredible developers. As a server, Linux can only establish a stronger dominance. That is because when you want your website running faster, it isn't a big deal as a system administrator to figure out how to tune Linux.
However, Linux is now beginning to struggle in the desktop environment. It is my opinion that open source development will only now be put to the test. Let's face it, as of now I cannot copy and paste in X windows. Sure there are a slew of programs the work together, kde, gnome. But what about the thousands of other programs. Should they just remain at odds with the rest of the desktop?
Nobody in the Linux community likes standards. Why? Because a standard is by definition NOT open source. Anybody and everybody cannot change a standard when they think that it needs tweaking or else it is not a standard. This idea frightens GNU maniacs. It is my challenge to the Linux community to suck in our pride and declare certain protocols as the best in theory that can be made. Then finalize them.
Perhaps we can then finally get a standard way to play sounds, video, games on the console, x windows GUI continuity.
This isn't to say that we have to abide by one snippet of code. But rather a protocol. To play a sound you open an IPC to the registered sound daemon. If that were specified, it doesn't mean you can't switch that sound daemon for a faster one. As long as they work the same at the surface level.
I have a RedHat 5.2 system that I had running 2.0.36 without any problems. It is a dual pentium pro system so I decided that it would be to my advantage to upgrade to 2.2 pre 4 for performance reasons. When I did so, things appeared to be working. However, it crashes everytime I use repquota to check user quotas.
I compiled quota support into my new 2.2 kernel and everything. However the crash is very dependent and it leaves the system running but nobody capable of logging in. Has anybody else had this problem? Has it been fixed some time between pre 4 and pre 6? Or might it be something that I am doing dreadfully wrong. I would have tried upgrading to 2.2 pre 6 except that I cannot afford to crash the computer because it is in a locked closet and a hassle for me to get in to reboot manually.
Please email me if you have any ideas.
Thanks!