Also, it should be a cause of concern to you that you want dissenters to leave. I hope your ideal of a discussion forum is not one where all users are in total agreement with each other and circle-jerk about their supposed enlightenment.
yes, but thats just boring, isn't it. The majority of slashdotters hold views that vehemently oppose mine and I wouldn't have it any other way. It's good training, keeps the brain sharp. And besides someone has to call bullshit on, well, things that are bullshit like mindless MS bashing that totally ignores that the large majority of computer users are quite happy with their operating system.
See, somethingawful.com has wonderful forums and nice debates. But I needn't go there because the different viewpoints are so balanced against each other that by the 10th post somebody already stated my opinion on the subject. So what is it I should do there?
so you'll refrain from actions that might lead to MS being wiped from the face of the planet? Fine, we are in agreement then.
PS: of course, I'm not asking you to relinguish your right to abstain from doing business with MS or your right to free speech as concerns criticizing them.
it's not even about browser security holes. Not even micheal-the-nut advocated that they'd charge for security fixes. It's about spyware and viruses which are always a possibility when a gullible userbase and an OS that actually does stuff (you know, services, networking, file IO etc) meet.
RICO suit? Are you out of your mind? RICO is about membership in a criminal organization. Do you suggest that MS is the mafia? Has there been a MS led drive-by shooting I somehow missed in the news?
Futhermore, their product is not defective because there is no standard of security that can be regared as 'whole'. Every operating system has ways to delete data for instance. There is your virus right there.
Concerning your choice of words: Extortion would be if they exploitet the security holes to bully you into buying their security package. Now, the article did in no way, shape or form suggest that, did it?
don't bother. You are interupting the chanting. It's micheals religion to bitch about every single thing that microsoft does or not does regardless of actual fact. Most people posting to this story have the same mindset.
it's clearly the businesses obligation to act against their best interest. If the user is really ignorant about computers he should have someone to educate him. Turning to people that stand to gain from your ignorance is the last resort and customers usually make that choice deliberatly because it's the easiest way. Basically they trade time and though for money. It's like me wandering into bike store without prior research. I'll get a bike with features and endurance I'll never need at a price I can barely afford. What is there to complain about? Everyone knows this.
Yes! The socialists are coming out with hate rethoric. It's funny how you are so nice and bleeding hearted and then *bam* 'OFF YOU GO TO THE CONCENTRATION CAMP'.
Seriously, I think grain is more important then software and I'm sure you'll agree. Now, what happened in every country that 'decommercialized' farming? Oh, why, famine wiping out millions, thats what.
And besides, why do you hate so much? Why not use your Linux or BSD flavor and be done with it. I'm a paying MS customer and I like it that way. Let me have mine and I'll let you have yours, that way you, me and bill gates can live. Wouldn't that be civilised?
how can you tell? Seriously, didn't they have the 'market cornered' (what ever the fuck that means) for browsers and media players, too? Why aren't they charging for those as well? You guys need to decide what pisses you off, if you want to convince people that the OSS crowd is not hypocritical and fanatic.
So, basically EA pays less than other developers? Well, see, there is your solution.
I never bought the whole 'suck the life from the young'uns' line. Thing is, whatever job you take when you start your professional career you have to make up for your laking experience. This is often done through long hours or less money. Well, the market pays for experience. That is certainly not a big suprise. And, unless EA enters the business of selling human flesh, there is no way that they take something out of the young people. If you're in your twenties, you are very fit to work harder than what is average. Also, compare that seemingly sad tale to lawyers that have to spend truckloads of money before they can even start working and when they do, 80 hour weeks are commonplace until they actually become partners. I don't see many 'advocates_spouse' blogs, why is that?
I want argue about the prestige since that is obviously a question of taste. In my view it is, no matter how much they get out.
sorry about the 'y' thing. In my 10 years of speaking, writing and listening to english I never managed to use 'mayority' vs 'majority' correctly. Same goes for 'live' and 'life'. It's just a disablity, I think;)
You are right, it was certainly inflamatory. But there is a mod option for that too, that's my point.
yeah, flamebait would be more appropriate if my opinion doesn't pass the tolerance test on slashdot. Ahh, why do I even bother. I had karma to burn anyways.
Also, about the 'provoke a response' thing. How is that bad? I can't think of a single statement, oral or written in the history of mankind that wasn't tailored to 'provoke a response'.
Yeah, it eludes me what they are talking about though. I can accept it when someone quits and then complains about it, to 'warn' others. Those folks on the other hand just don't accept what it entails if you work a job that is a dream to plenty of talented young people across the world. Seriously, what is wrong with the world when people in prestigious positions, earning shitloads of money get to complain about 'exploitation' to a mass audience? I've seen EA compared to a sweatshop on numerous sites and that is outragious too. No matter what the conditions at EA are, it can't be a sweatshop because people that actually work in sweatshops are quite greatful that they can earn a living at all, instead of just starving.
troll? I'm stating a controversial opinion. How the hell is that a troll? If the mayority of 'liberals' can't bear that, mod it flamebait. A troll would be 'hay guys! can someone help me make my webpage for teh intarnet, plz?'
If I read about this ho one more time, I will buy a ticket, fly to CA and punch her in the face. Often.
Don't you get it? You scare your husband away, you whiney broom. He doesn't care about you any more. He loves his work and hates you, this is why it's always 'crunch time' instead of 'getting yelled at while eating strange goo you try to pass off as food time' for him. That and the nice blond in managment that just gives excellent head.
No seriously now. I would work for EA, as long as I could live from it. That is called market pressure. Labour is not exempt from the law of supply and demand. Get the fuck over it.
if you look closly, you'll find that 'o' is almost exactly in the mirror position to 'e', if you cut the keyboard in half between 'g' and 'h'. He probably typed the letter with the wrong hand. It happens to me all the time.
the word you are looking for is 'has'. Aside from that, the XBOX is not half-assed. At least it offers reliable online play (via live) that actually features things like 'playing with you buddy', 'voice support' and other fun things like that. That's a lot more than PC games have been able to offer. I'd know, I play online on a PC and most games mp functionality hasn't improved over the standards set by quake.
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Also, it should be a cause of concern to you that you want dissenters to leave. I hope your ideal of a discussion forum is not one where all users are in total agreement with each other and circle-jerk about their supposed enlightenment.
yes, but thats just boring, isn't it. The majority of slashdotters hold views that vehemently oppose mine and I wouldn't have it any other way. It's good training, keeps the brain sharp. And besides someone has to call bullshit on, well, things that are bullshit like mindless MS bashing that totally ignores that the large majority of computer users are quite happy with their operating system.
See, somethingawful.com has wonderful forums and nice debates. But I needn't go there because the different viewpoints are so balanced against each other that by the 10th post somebody already stated my opinion on the subject. So what is it I should do there?
so you'll refrain from actions that might lead to MS being wiped from the face of the planet? Fine, we are in agreement then.
PS: of course, I'm not asking you to relinguish your right to abstain from doing business with MS or your right to free speech as concerns criticizing them.
it's not even about browser security holes. Not even micheal-the-nut advocated that they'd charge for security fixes. It's about spyware and viruses which are always a possibility when a gullible userbase and an OS that actually does stuff (you know, services, networking, file IO etc) meet.
RICO suit? Are you out of your mind? RICO is about membership in a criminal organization. Do you suggest that MS is the mafia? Has there been a MS led drive-by shooting I somehow missed in the news?
Futhermore, their product is not defective because there is no standard of security that can be regared as 'whole'. Every operating system has ways to delete data for instance. There is your virus right there.
Concerning your choice of words: Extortion would be if they exploitet the security holes to bully you into buying their security package. Now, the article did in no way, shape or form suggest that, did it?
don't bother. You are interupting the chanting. It's micheals religion to bitch about every single thing that microsoft does or not does regardless of actual fact. Most people posting to this story have the same mindset.
it's clearly the businesses obligation to act against their best interest. If the user is really ignorant about computers he should have someone to educate him. Turning to people that stand to gain from your ignorance is the last resort and customers usually make that choice deliberatly because it's the easiest way. Basically they trade time and though for money. It's like me wandering into bike store without prior research. I'll get a bike with features and endurance I'll never need at a price I can barely afford. What is there to complain about? Everyone knows this.
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Yes! The socialists are coming out with hate rethoric. It's funny how you are so nice and bleeding hearted and then *bam* 'OFF YOU GO TO THE CONCENTRATION CAMP'.
Seriously, I think grain is more important then software and I'm sure you'll agree. Now, what happened in every country that 'decommercialized' farming? Oh, why, famine wiping out millions, thats what.
And besides, why do you hate so much? Why not use your Linux or BSD flavor and be done with it. I'm a paying MS customer and I like it that way. Let me have mine and I'll let you have yours, that way you, me and bill gates can live. Wouldn't that be civilised?
how can you tell? Seriously, didn't they have the 'market cornered' (what ever the fuck that means) for browsers and media players, too? Why aren't they charging for those as well? You guys need to decide what pisses you off, if you want to convince people that the OSS crowd is not hypocritical and fanatic.
actually, I'm one of zeee germans.
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jesus! I REPLIED to an other post! How the FUCK can that be offtopic?
mod me down like you discovered the fuking modpoint fairy. Metamoderation will revenge me.
So, basically EA pays less than other developers? Well, see, there is your solution.
I never bought the whole 'suck the life from the young'uns' line. Thing is, whatever job you take when you start your professional career you have to make up for your laking experience. This is often done through long hours or less money. Well, the market pays for experience. That is certainly not a big suprise. And, unless EA enters the business of selling human flesh, there is no way that they take something out of the young people. If you're in your twenties, you are very fit to work harder than what is average. Also, compare that seemingly sad tale to lawyers that have to spend truckloads of money before they can even start working and when they do, 80 hour weeks are commonplace until they actually become partners. I don't see many 'advocates_spouse' blogs, why is that?
I want argue about the prestige since that is obviously a question of taste. In my view it is, no matter how much they get out.
sorry about the 'y' thing. In my 10 years of speaking, writing and listening to english I never managed to use 'mayority' vs 'majority' correctly. Same goes for 'live' and 'life'. It's just a disablity, I think ;)
You are right, it was certainly inflamatory. But there is a mod option for that too, that's my point.
yeah, flamebait would be more appropriate if my opinion doesn't pass the tolerance test on slashdot. Ahh, why do I even bother. I had karma to burn anyways.
Also, about the 'provoke a response' thing. How is that bad? I can't think of a single statement, oral or written in the history of mankind that wasn't tailored to 'provoke a response'.
Yeah, it eludes me what they are talking about though. I can accept it when someone quits and then complains about it, to 'warn' others. Those folks on the other hand just don't accept what it entails if you work a job that is a dream to plenty of talented young people across the world. Seriously, what is wrong with the world when people in prestigious positions, earning shitloads of money get to complain about 'exploitation' to a mass audience? I've seen EA compared to a sweatshop on numerous sites and that is outragious too. No matter what the conditions at EA are, it can't be a sweatshop because people that actually work in sweatshops are quite greatful that they can earn a living at all, instead of just starving.
troll? I'm stating a controversial opinion. How the hell is that a troll? If the mayority of 'liberals' can't bear that, mod it flamebait. A troll would be 'hay guys! can someone help me make my webpage for teh intarnet, plz?'
PS. I figured that out from the way you misspelled "Labor."
Yeah, go tell the prime minister of britain that his party bought the wrong domain:
http://www.labour.org.uk/home
If I read about this ho one more time, I will buy a ticket, fly to CA and punch her in the face. Often.
Don't you get it? You scare your husband away, you whiney broom. He doesn't care about you any more. He loves his work and hates you, this is why it's always 'crunch time' instead of 'getting yelled at while eating strange goo you try to pass off as food time' for him. That and the nice blond in managment that just gives excellent head.
No seriously now. I would work for EA, as long as I could live from it. That is called market pressure. Labour is not exempt from the law of supply and demand. Get the fuck over it.
how do I, the user, prioritize packets from/to a certain application?
same thing ;)
10k/s upload in a an online game is much though. hl(1) used 5k and hl2 is supposed to use even less.
if you look closly, you'll find that 'o' is almost exactly in the mirror position to 'e', if you cut the keyboard in half between 'g' and 'h'. He probably typed the letter with the wrong hand. It happens to me all the time.
the word you are looking for is 'has'. Aside from that, the XBOX is not half-assed. At least it offers reliable online play (via live) that actually features things like 'playing with you buddy', 'voice support' and other fun things like that. That's a lot more than PC games have been able to offer. I'd know, I play online on a PC and most games mp functionality hasn't improved over the standards set by quake.