FTP dump? Isn't that a site on a box that people FTP to and upload/download warez? So if you aren't being infected from that, it is because SOMEONE ELSE is following the appropriate security procedures. Not because of your cool criminal knowledge.
Are you truly so stupid as this makes you out to be? How could you possibly miss the point? I'll spell it out for you. The point is: trusted sources. That's what everything's about. You should know that.
Doing a.sfv check is meaningless unless you have a trusted.sfv source. Since the app is cracked anyway, the original CRC's won't apply.
Yes? Of course you have to a trusted.sfv source. See previous answer.
But Outlook didn't allow that. Which means you must be using something other than the default Windows email client.
Of course I am! Once again: I'm not stupid, I just don't think firewalls and running AV is needed. Just some precautions and common sense. Don't have javascript active in your mail-client. Don't run services you don't need. Et cetera. And note, as some seem completly to miss this, I'm talking about my personal machine. Not your Fortune 500 company's 10000 machines. Yes, then you have to have AV and firewall since there will be users without common sense and there will be people without even that little time that's needed to keep a box secure.
Seriously, when I was young I did a lot of criminal things on a computer. Then I fought the law and the law won. So aside from pirating I'm more or less legit today, but I still keep up with old friends. I know exactly what can and will be done when attacking a computer. And I manage just fine using common sense. I know what things I have running which binds sockets. I make sure these are patched. That's a no-brainer. I don't answer yes on things popping up on random webpages, I don't download software I think looks seedy and I don't run services I don't need. That's all you have to do.
Which means you must spend a LOT of time digging through all the material when a new patch/exploit is announced.
No I don't. Actually I spend virtually no time at all on this. I mean how hard is it? If you think it's a chore, you're either a lazy bastard or a moron looking in all the wrong places.
Warez do in fact have proper releases indeed. Downloading some random guys program of a p2p-program isn't a proper release of warez. A proper release is the kind you get from the now-mentioned-on-the-frontpage Torrentbits, or a ftp-dump. And if you don't do an.sfv check against a safe-copy you're a moron.
I'm the network administrator for a small company of about 300 users and I see how many email viruses I block every day.
Eh yeah? I get email viruses. I just don't open them, nor do I allow scripts to be executed in my email-client.
I you actually perform all those unsafe acts WITHOUT running proper precautions AND you haven't been infected, it is pure luck.
No it's not. A firewall is false security if anything.
You sound like the guy that always loses in sports/cards/whatever and keeps telling himself it's always "bad luck". Get over it. Realize that common sense can keep you safe enough.
Also, you expose the fact that you know absolutely nothing. Can you name one single proper release of warez containing a trojan? Didn't think so.
You can cry bullshit all you want, it doesn't make it false. The simple fact is that without doing anything extremly complicated or painful I still manage to keep my box virus and spyware free. Anyone with common sense could do what I do.
As you can see from my other comments, my machines sat for several years on a 100Mbit network, in a well-known, old ip-block. Of course I got fucking scanned, the trick is to make sure they don't get through. You can never secure a machine completly but you can make damn sure that it's not as an attractive target as the machine next door which is enough if someone hasn't decided to target you personally.
There are trojaned machines constantly scanning for machines, like yours, in the wild. Microsoft patches have been too late to stop an infection more times than I can count.
Yes, and since I'm a good user I get whatever temporary fix is available until a patch is available. I said I didn't run continual AV or a firewall, I didn't say I was stupid.
And if you find it to complicated and time-consuming to secure a box properly, maybe you should try to find another job.
Yes, as I said, one time I thought I really had something even though neither F-prot nor Adaware found anything. So I also checked with Norton and some spyware hunters. I also hooked up my laptop to sniff the traffic out and in to the computer to see if anything was transmitting when it shouldn't. But it was false alarm.
I do realize perhaps most people aren't quite capable of sniffing their traffic to check if something's going on, but I think the current hysteria is over the top, and that there's not really a need for firewalls or always-on-AV as long as you take care of your computer.
I've been on the internet since 93. I've had a static ip for a majority of that time. My connection speeds have except for 93-98 and this year been a 100Mbit line. I've mostly been on one of the oldest IP-blocks in the world outside the US (Swedish university nets). I've never been behind a NAT, my ISP doesn't firewall me, etc. In theory I'm a prime target. Your argument falls flat.
I run Windows. I didn't use to. Between 1993 and 2001 I ran Linux almost exclusively. When Windows 2000 was established I switched on the simple basis of that it was better.
I don't run anti-virus. I don't have a firewall. I don't run spyware-removals under normal circumstances. If I feel the computer is feeling odd I download and run F-Prot's free DOS version followed by running Adaware 6. On some single occasion I've run Norton Anti-virus just to be on the safe side
I'm not alone in using this computer, my not quite so computer-literate girlfriend does too. I often download shareware games and freeware programes, not to mention warez every now and then.
Despite all this - I have never (*knock on wood*) been virus-infected. I have never gotten any spyware.
So I have to ask myself, what to do all these people do to get their computers so messed up? Why isn't it happening to me, when I run the same Windows without any protection? Is it really Windows fault?
Did you actually follow the instructions? That is: Did you click on the image on the citibank-page, thereby giving you a third window? It doesn't sound like it from your comment.
And the exploit worked just 'fine' on my firefox 1.0.
There's news from Science that a new Hexid-computer from Japan will be able to accurately predict social patterns in cities large enough (> 4 million inhabitants), if this is true we truly have a new future ahead of us since this could change society in so many ways.
Additionally I think it's good that IBM too have an interest in this area, since 1) competition is always good and 2) it makes for more accurate results. With some luck we can have peta-byte based grid by 2007.
Here's why; Many people seem to think that just any dog will protect you and your home without any training what-so-ever. This is so far from the truth it isn't even funny.
Yes, some dogs do defende "their" turf well enough, even against an intruder, but even more will just go up wagging their tail, happy that somebody came by, while others will be running away to hide. If you want a dog to protect your home it needs to be a suitable breed, suitably trained. A dog like that is nothing to cuddle with nor something very fun to have at home.
So get a dog! But do it because you like it and want a companion, not because you want to have it as a home saftey measure.
Not true. I have friends (Swedish as it happens) who live in South Korea who says Star Craft is just as big as it is made out to be. They show games in the evenings and a lot of people watches of all ages. If you go out to bars etc, it's not unusual to have SC running with a lot of people watching.
As a a sidenote, Sweden is right up there in Star Craft and Warcraft too, though of course, after the Koreans.
If he says so in the book, I guess that was a principle reason (although I think it's a bad, and not true one), however he's also stated what I say in several interviews. Probably, both influenced the decision to use templates.
Just preprocessor. C didn't have templates. As I said above, they were introduced to enable generic types even though they couldn't design C++ to have all types inherit from some generic Object since this would break C compatability, thus the templates were introduced.
Re: OO No, generic types aren't necessary for OO, and perhaps C++ doesn't claim to be an OO-language, but that just means it's a confused sucky langauge instead of an OO sucky language. That being said, I code way to much in C++.
I will be honest, I don't comprehend this statment and its weight in your comment. My apologies for being so daft. The parent poster claimed neither Java nor C# hade usigned types while both have it. It was from his part a way to show weakness in these two languages I would guess.
Much like the true problem with OOP this all boils down to the person viewing it and their interpretation. Agreed, I just don't think that claiming a language has superiority because it handles multiple inheritance is a good idea.
That's a harsh conclusion. I could argue that you are an OOP zealot based on the fact that you seem to critize non-[true]OOP langauges leaving one to conclude that OOP is The Only Way. I agree I come of like an ass, mostly because I'm bored to death with all the people here that seem to think they know something when they're spouting out garbage. And regarding being an OOP zealot; I began my programming in C, and I still code alot of C. I also code in Haskell and O'Caml. I like writing hacks in VB.NET and Ruby. I use whatever language and method I think is best for the job.
Yes they were, they were introduced to have a way to have a generic type without requiring existing data types to inherit from object and thereby breaking current C-programs.
Of course, for "real programmers", C and C++ still grant you much more power. Function pointers, inline assembly, easy bitwise operations... C# is fine for many programs, but just TRY to implement a network protocol using it!
C# gives you access to function pointers, inline assembly and has the same friggin bitwise operators every other language in the world has. I've also implemented sockets encrypted at the sockets level which went just fine.
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Bzzz. 2001 actually. But thank you for playing.
FTP dump? Isn't that a site on a box that people FTP to and upload/download warez? So if you aren't being infected from that, it is because SOMEONE ELSE is following the appropriate security procedures. Not because of your cool criminal knowledge.
Are you truly so stupid as this makes you out to be? How could you possibly miss the point? I'll spell it out for you. The point is: trusted sources. That's what everything's about. You should know that.
Doing a .sfv check is meaningless unless you have a trusted .sfv source. Since the app is cracked anyway, the original CRC's won't apply.
Yes? Of course you have to a trusted .sfv source. See previous answer.
But Outlook didn't allow that. Which means you must be using something other than the default Windows email client.
Of course I am! Once again: I'm not stupid, I just don't think firewalls and running AV is needed. Just some precautions and common sense. Don't have javascript active in your mail-client. Don't run services you don't need. Et cetera. And note, as some seem completly to miss this, I'm talking about my personal machine. Not your Fortune 500 company's 10000 machines. Yes, then you have to have AV and firewall since there will be users without common sense and there will be people without even that little time that's needed to keep a box secure.
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Yeah, I know it skips certain files. But thanks anyway! I should perhaps have said that in my post, good for people to know.
Do I care if you need to spend time and money on uneeded software? No.
Is my computer exactly as I've described - virus and spyware-free? Yes.
Will I continue to indulge you in your ignorance? No.
Have a nice day.
Which means you must spend a LOT of time digging through all the material when a new patch/exploit is announced.
No I don't. Actually I spend virtually no time at all on this. I mean how hard is it? If you think it's a chore, you're either a lazy bastard or a moron looking in all the wrong places.
I'm the network administrator for a small company of about 300 users and I see how many email viruses I block every day.
Eh yeah? I get email viruses. I just don't open them, nor do I allow scripts to be executed in my email-client.
I you actually perform all those unsafe acts WITHOUT running proper precautions AND you haven't been infected, it is pure luck.
No it's not. A firewall is false security if anything.
Also, you expose the fact that you know absolutely nothing. Can you name one single proper release of warez containing a trojan? Didn't think so.
As you can see from my other comments, my machines sat for several years on a 100Mbit network, in a well-known, old ip-block. Of course I got fucking scanned, the trick is to make sure they don't get through. You can never secure a machine completly but you can make damn sure that it's not as an attractive target as the machine next door which is enough if someone hasn't decided to target you personally.
There are trojaned machines constantly scanning for machines, like yours, in the wild. Microsoft patches have been too late to stop an infection more times than I can count.
Yes, and since I'm a good user I get whatever temporary fix is available until a patch is available. I said I didn't run continual AV or a firewall, I didn't say I was stupid.
And if you find it to complicated and time-consuming to secure a box properly, maybe you should try to find another job.
Good point, and I don't argue that. But claiming Windows is inheritly that much insecurer than Linux or any other OS isn't true.
I do realize perhaps most people aren't quite capable of sniffing their traffic to check if something's going on, but I think the current hysteria is over the top, and that there's not really a need for firewalls or always-on-AV as long as you take care of your computer.
I've been on the internet since 93. I've had a static ip for a majority of that time. My connection speeds have except for 93-98 and this year been a 100Mbit line. I've mostly been on one of the oldest IP-blocks in the world outside the US (Swedish university nets). I've never been behind a NAT, my ISP doesn't firewall me, etc. In theory I'm a prime target. Your argument falls flat.
But mostly it's gut feeling.
I don't run anti-virus. I don't have a firewall. I don't run spyware-removals under normal circumstances. If I feel the computer is feeling odd I download and run F-Prot's free DOS version followed by running Adaware 6. On some single occasion I've run Norton Anti-virus just to be on the safe side
I'm not alone in using this computer, my not quite so computer-literate girlfriend does too. I often download shareware games and freeware programes, not to mention warez every now and then.
Despite all this - I have never (*knock on wood*) been virus-infected. I have never gotten any spyware.
So I have to ask myself, what to do all these people do to get their computers so messed up? Why isn't it happening to me, when I run the same Windows without any protection? Is it really Windows fault?
Did you actually follow the instructions? That is: Did you click on the image on the citibank-page, thereby giving you a third window? It doesn't sound like it from your comment.
And the exploit worked just 'fine' on my firefox 1.0.
Ssssccch. That comment is a social experiment.
Additionally I think it's good that IBM too have an interest in this area, since 1) competition is always good and 2) it makes for more accurate results. With some luck we can have peta-byte based grid by 2007.
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Here's why; Many people seem to think that just any dog will protect you and your home without any training what-so-ever. This is so far from the truth it isn't even funny.
Yes, some dogs do defende "their" turf well enough, even against an intruder, but even more will just go up wagging their tail, happy that somebody came by, while others will be running away to hide. If you want a dog to protect your home it needs to be a suitable breed, suitably trained. A dog like that is nothing to cuddle with nor something very fun to have at home.
So get a dog! But do it because you like it and want a companion, not because you want to have it as a home saftey measure.
* Se subject, I rest my case *
Then someone has a lot of spare counter-terrorists hanging around considering the average number of losses in a round.
Not true. I have friends (Swedish as it happens) who live in South Korea who says Star Craft is just as big as it is made out to be. They show games in the evenings and a lot of people watches of all ages. If you go out to bars etc, it's not unusual to have SC running with a lot of people watching.
As a a sidenote, Sweden is right up there in Star Craft and Warcraft too, though of course, after the Koreans.
Seriously, I'm not one to complain, but this isn't a review; it's a guy saying "WOW" repeatedly.
If he says so in the book, I guess that was a principle reason (although I think it's a bad, and not true one), however he's also stated what I say in several interviews. Probably, both influenced the decision to use templates.
As I said above, they were introduced to enable generic types even though they couldn't design C++ to have all types inherit from some generic Object since this would break C compatability, thus the templates were introduced.
Re: OO
No, generic types aren't necessary for OO, and perhaps C++ doesn't claim to be an OO-language, but that just means it's a confused sucky langauge instead of an OO sucky language. That being said, I code way to much in C++.
I will be honest, I don't comprehend this statment and its weight in your comment. My apologies for being so daft.
The parent poster claimed neither Java nor C# hade usigned types while both have it. It was from his part a way to show weakness in these two languages I would guess.
Much like the true problem with OOP this all boils down to the person viewing it and their interpretation.
Agreed, I just don't think that claiming a language has superiority because it handles multiple inheritance is a good idea.
That's a harsh conclusion. I could argue that you are an OOP zealot based on the fact that you seem to critize non-[true]OOP langauges leaving one to conclude that OOP is The Only Way.
I agree I come of like an ass, mostly because I'm bored to death with all the people here that seem to think they know something when they're spouting out garbage. And regarding being an OOP zealot; I began my programming in C, and I still code alot of C. I also code in Haskell and O'Caml. I like writing hacks in VB.NET and Ruby. I use whatever language and method I think is best for the job.
Object.Finalize() in C# for example. You can also make the GC collect only specific objects.
You must really like explicit casts.
Sometimes, but you don't have to cast half as much as you seem to think.
Care to list ones in Java?
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A method in an interface often has a sensible default implementation. Why should I be forced to re-type it for each class?
There are several ways not to have to do this. If you like buzzwords, Aspect-programming is one.
Yes they were, they were introduced to have a way to have a generic type without requiring existing data types to inherit from object and thereby breaking current C-programs.
C# gives you access to function pointers, inline assembly and has the same friggin bitwise operators every other language in the world has. I've also implemented sockets encrypted at the sockets level which went just fine.