You know, you might just have hit the main issue here. If she is made party to the case, does that mean she can no longer comment on it?
Could that be the real reason they are trying?
Not that I think it will work. However they are so screwed that any possibility of even the tiniest link between PJ and IBM would be useful to them, or so they think.
The good news is, Gentoo is easier for me to fix personally when it breaks. The bad news is, this is because I've used Gentoo for a LONG time, and continue to have to fix something every other week -- not frequently enough to force me to switch my few remaining Gentoo boxes over, but bad enough that I don't recommend Gentoo to anyone.
Amen, It's great until they change something and you don't realise, or some package gets stuck in portage that breaks things, or you set a USE flag wrong...
[or, koff, if you, um, unmerge Tar...koff]
Most of my gentoo boxes are unchanging, I use them as a cluster. My home gentoo box, well it breaks fairly often, but that's more because I keep fiddling with it. It's rare for a break to be fatal. That's the problem with gentoo, the 'ooh, I wonder what happens if I do this' issue, That breaks a lot of gentoo boxes I find. I suspect that's a big motivation for the removal of the root login in ubuntu..
The huge compile time is a pain. it would be nice if they introduced a binary portage to go along with the source one. At least there are a few binaries available.
Of those who have given it enough of a chance?
Well there you've hit the spot. I spent a whole evening setting up linux nicely for the person last month, and they used it for all of one day.
There is no reason at all why Microsoft should get any compensation for this information.
Well, no reason they should need the money. A smaller company being made to release protocols might be in a decent position to request payment, if they have a need to recoup significant investment. I don't think it's the act of payment that's the issue, its that microsoft do not need to charge to make their money back, they just want to so they can limit access.
I personally think they are effectively unbeatable in court. They have so much money that they can keep this crap going for years, and they know it. I say halt this charade and force the US to break up Microsoft, get to the root of the problem.
Ditto for Linux, then. Unless you get them to follow a brand -- Ubuntu is catchy on its own, even if you don't think of it as Linux.
You may be right. Personally I don't think much of Ubuntu. For basic users it might be just the thing, very hard to break. I gave it a week myself, then went back to gentoo (vroom vroom, watch this ricer go..)
I'd rather hear that from an ordinary computer user. I believe many of my arguments here make sense to such a user.
I haven't found one that willingly uses Linux yet, and I have tried in the past, most recently just a month ago
You used it once, first. Maybe I should've put "quotes" around it to be extra-insulting.
For most home users there is only one version of Vista, that being whatever flavour OEMs put on their machine as standard. I believe its the top Home version.
Nor will most home users understand the difference between the various versions, or care.
I don't have a complaint about Linux, I'm just stating that it isn't ready to be an alternative to windows for ordinary computer users. Didn't say Linux Sucks either.
However, other than the fact that you used 'whining' twice, that wasn't a bad flame. I especially like the way you said I should get a Mac, that's always a good touch:-)
I was referring to the LSB more then anything. I'm a gentoo man myself. I tend to stick mandriva on machines for people trying Linux for the first time, rather then fedora. It's all a matter of choice.
Could there be a standard Linux distro? Possibly, but not easily I would imagine. I guess it'll end up being the one OEMs install most often.
Yeah... odd, that. The only people who don't are Linux or Mac or BSD users. Spooky, huh?
Perhaps not, most of those people are knowledgeable about operating systems, so the whole MS bashing thing is a bit sad, and not worth bothering with.
I will admit to a certain frustration that the most popular build of my open source software product is the windows build. I know its the slowest of all the versions I maintain, but I also know most people use windows, so I have to take the pain...
What does a mobile phone ban mean? High cost in house alternatives. 'Certified' safe services that on close inspection will turn out to be essentially identical, but differentiated by being closely controlled (aka, offered at significant cost by a vendor without competition).
Oh there will be all sorts of justification, but it will boil down to 'by fixing this ban we can make bucket loads of cash'.
Realtor I believe, or that's the US equivalent. Person who sells houses and wears suits a lot.
My mum grew up around hippies, not sure if she was one herself. I grew up in a family that had gay couples as friends, did not care about race or colour (well, I tell a lie, I was amazed by just how black one of our friends was, I used to think he was painted black every day to keep that colour, I mean, he was awesomely black:), and generally judged people by who they were, not by labels applied by the mob. I didn't know this at the time though.
I wouldn't claim my family was perfect, we had our problems, but we seemed to do ok. I think that upbringing is what makes me tend to think I shouldn't cloud my sons mind with innumerable rules, but that I should instead just try to keep his mind open and well educated.
Nope, I didn't think 98ME was a significant improvement, it wasn't worth upgrading. I think even microsoft knew that.
Vista is a significant improvement. I don't like the prettiness either, but I don't have to, I don't use it.
If I was coding for a thing that was going to be used by lots of windows users then I would have upgraded asap, simply to get used to the environment. As it is I have no need.
It's habit for most people to complain about windows.
I usually find that people who bitch about it use it exclusively. They mostly don't even understand just how complex a job it is that operating systems have to do.
Me? I use Linux most of the time, and have XP for games and other trivial stuff (if games are trivial). Linux is far ahead in the server arena, an pure number cruncher stakes (which is what I use it for), but still behind in the home user experience. Unfashionable as that statement is, its true. Yes there are all the pieces, but how many versions of Linux are there? Is the Linux Standard Base adopted across the board yet? Nope? Well stop whining, Linux isn't ready for the the mainstream desktop. It needs to standardise.
I don't plan to buy Vista, simply because it does nothing I need. That hasn't stopped me saying some people I know should quit bitching and buy it. After all, since they use Microsoft stuff anyway, they might as well get the next incarnation.
You know, I'm not that sure that I am in the minority. I rather suspect that I'm only in the minority from the standpoint that I admit these things. I think many people are too scared to stand out and admit that they feel the same way.
My poor son hasn't got much to rebel against, as I'm a scruffy, black clothed, computer game playing academic who doesn't believe in working at some shitty job for years just to earn a weekly wage.
To rebel against me he'd have to become an estate agent or something:-)
Some people want the state to be responsible so they don't have to take the blame themselves for poor parenting.
I have *never* tried to stop my son from viewing adult material. I have also never found him viewing it. I go for the fairly simple method of telling him what it is, and asking him to avoid it. It's this thing called trust. I trust that he will be responsible *on the whole*. I do not expect perfect obedience.
Probably he has sneaked the odd view at some nakedness. I know I would have done at his age. Interestingly he also shows no sign of becoming a sociopath, or wanting to strangle hookers...
This whole anti porn thing is just some neo conservative delusion that porn == evil. It's bullshit. Porn == naked ladies/men. Yes there is more extreme/nasty stuff out there. I rely on the moral values I have instilled in my son to protect him from such things. I hope that he will feel no need to view such material.
It's all about realising that people cannot be restricted to a rule based existence. You have to help them develop a world view that encourages respect for their fellows. I happen to believe this does not exclude getting hot for pictures of naked ladies.
Oh. Actually I hadn't given this much thought before, I didn't think that a thing you don't have the option to decline isn't a proper licence. I suppose giving no choice doesn't make for a proper contract.
That's what I meant. The copy of which you speak is subject to a licence that entitles you to own one copy of that movie. The publisher owns the copyright, and they assign you a limited licence.
licence/copy are interchangeable here unless this is a paper on copyright. I was trying to be brief.
Also, I give you a C- on your response, must do better. My post is not thoroughly researched, the information is several years old, I think you could have ripped into me way more:-)
For heavens sake, get indignant, shoot my post down in flames, destroy my arguments in a torrent of logic and references, this is slashdot...
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You know, you might just have hit the main issue here. If she is made party to the case, does that mean she can no longer comment on it?
Could that be the real reason they are trying?
Not that I think it will work. However they are so screwed that any possibility of even the tiniest link between PJ and IBM would be useful to them, or so they think.
who owns these songs? I rather suspect it isn't the artists any more.
The good news is, Gentoo is easier for me to fix personally when it breaks. The bad news is, this is because I've used Gentoo for a LONG time, and continue to have to fix something every other week -- not frequently enough to force me to switch my few remaining Gentoo boxes over, but bad enough that I don't recommend Gentoo to anyone.
Amen, It's great until they change something and you don't realise, or some package gets stuck in portage that breaks things, or you set a USE flag wrong...
[or, koff, if you, um, unmerge Tar...koff]
Most of my gentoo boxes are unchanging, I use them as a cluster. My home gentoo box, well it breaks fairly often, but that's more because I keep fiddling with it. It's rare for a break to be fatal. That's the problem with gentoo, the 'ooh, I wonder what happens if I do this' issue, That breaks a lot of gentoo boxes I find. I suspect that's a big motivation for the removal of the root login in ubuntu..
The huge compile time is a pain. it would be nice if they introduced a binary portage to go along with the source one. At least there are a few binaries available.
Of those who have given it enough of a chance?
Well there you've hit the spot. I spent a whole evening setting up linux nicely for the person last month, and they used it for all of one day.
There is no reason at all why Microsoft should get any compensation for this information.
Well, no reason they should need the money. A smaller company being made to release protocols might be in a decent position to request payment, if they have a need to recoup significant investment. I don't think it's the act of payment that's the issue, its that microsoft do not need to charge to make their money back, they just want to so they can limit access.
I personally think they are effectively unbeatable in court. They have so much money that they can keep this crap going for years, and they know it. I say halt this charade and force the US to break up Microsoft, get to the root of the problem.
Ditto for Linux, then. Unless you get them to follow a brand -- Ubuntu is catchy on its own, even if you don't think of it as Linux.
You may be right. Personally I don't think much of Ubuntu. For basic users it might be just the thing, very hard to break. I gave it a week myself, then went back to gentoo (vroom vroom, watch this ricer go..)
I'd rather hear that from an ordinary computer user. I believe many of my arguments here make sense to such a user.
I haven't found one that willingly uses Linux yet, and I have tried in the past, most recently just a month ago
You used it once, first. Maybe I should've put "quotes" around it to be extra-insulting.
Probably, or put them in bold.
For most home users there is only one version of Vista, that being whatever flavour OEMs put on their machine as standard. I believe its the top Home version.
:-)
Nor will most home users understand the difference between the various versions, or care.
I don't have a complaint about Linux, I'm just stating that it isn't ready to be an alternative to windows for ordinary computer users. Didn't say Linux Sucks either.
However, other than the fact that you used 'whining' twice, that wasn't a bad flame. I especially like the way you said I should get a Mac, that's always a good touch
I was referring to the LSB more then anything. I'm a gentoo man myself. I tend to stick mandriva on machines for people trying Linux for the first time, rather then fedora. It's all a matter of choice.
Could there be a standard Linux distro? Possibly, but not easily I would imagine. I guess it'll end up being the one OEMs install most often.
black monoliths are ok, but the crowds of monkeys throwing sticks in the air that turn into spaceships can be a real inconvenience some days....
Yeah... odd, that. The only people who don't are Linux or Mac or BSD users. Spooky, huh?
Perhaps not, most of those people are knowledgeable about operating systems, so the whole MS bashing thing is a bit sad, and not worth bothering with.
I will admit to a certain frustration that the most popular build of my open source software product is the windows build. I know its the slowest of all the versions I maintain, but I also know most people use windows, so I have to take the pain...
that's an erroneous view. I refer to programs that are not interactive.
The quality of the operating system is paramount.
How good is the process scheduling? To what extent is posix supported?
The operating system is the thing that makes the hardware usable. If it's not efficient, your software will run slower.
oh that's easy, follow the money.
What does a mobile phone ban mean? High cost in house alternatives. 'Certified' safe services that on close inspection will turn out to be essentially identical, but differentiated by being closely controlled (aka, offered at significant cost by a vendor without competition).
Oh there will be all sorts of justification, but it will boil down to 'by fixing this ban we can make bucket loads of cash'.
Realtor I believe, or that's the US equivalent. Person who sells houses and wears suits a lot.
:), and generally judged people by who they were, not by labels applied by the mob. I didn't know this at the time though.
My mum grew up around hippies, not sure if she was one herself. I grew up in a family that had gay couples as friends, did not care about race or colour (well, I tell a lie, I was amazed by just how black one of our friends was, I used to think he was painted black every day to keep that colour, I mean, he was awesomely black
I wouldn't claim my family was perfect, we had our problems, but we seemed to do ok. I think that upbringing is what makes me tend to think I shouldn't cloud my sons mind with innumerable rules, but that I should instead just try to keep his mind open and well educated.
Nope, I didn't think 98ME was a significant improvement, it wasn't worth upgrading. I think even microsoft knew that.
Vista is a significant improvement. I don't like the prettiness either, but I don't have to, I don't use it.
If I was coding for a thing that was going to be used by lots of windows users then I would have upgraded asap, simply to get used to the environment. As it is I have no need.
Oh I agree. I used the nvidia kernel module in my system, and I get a 'tainted kernel' message every time I boot it.
What a bunch of pretentious pricks. My Kernel isn't 'tainted', it's customised to suit my needs.
It's habit for most people to complain about windows.
I usually find that people who bitch about it use it exclusively. They mostly don't even understand just how complex a job it is that operating systems have to do.
Me? I use Linux most of the time, and have XP for games and other trivial stuff (if games are trivial). Linux is far ahead in the server arena, an pure number cruncher stakes (which is what I use it for), but still behind in the home user experience. Unfashionable as that statement is, its true. Yes there are all the pieces, but how many versions of Linux are there? Is the Linux Standard Base adopted across the board yet? Nope? Well stop whining, Linux isn't ready for the the mainstream desktop. It needs to standardise.
I don't plan to buy Vista, simply because it does nothing I need.
That hasn't stopped me saying some people I know should quit bitching and buy it. After all, since they use Microsoft stuff anyway, they might as well get the next incarnation.
You know, I'm not that sure that I am in the minority. I rather suspect that I'm only in the minority from the standpoint that I admit these things. I think many people are too scared to stand out and admit that they feel the same way.
:-)
My poor son hasn't got much to rebel against, as I'm a scruffy, black clothed, computer game playing academic who doesn't believe in working at some shitty job for years just to earn a weekly wage.
To rebel against me he'd have to become an estate agent or something
sounds to me like you have smart parents
Actually I only told him about the bosskey thing last week...
and? You had a point with that comment?
Some people want the state to be responsible so they don't have to take the blame themselves for poor parenting.
I have *never* tried to stop my son from viewing adult material. I have also never found him viewing it. I go for the fairly simple method of telling him what it is, and asking him to avoid it. It's this thing called trust. I trust that he will be responsible *on the whole*. I do not expect perfect obedience.
Probably he has sneaked the odd view at some nakedness. I know I would have done at his age. Interestingly he also shows no sign of becoming a sociopath, or wanting to strangle hookers...
This whole anti porn thing is just some neo conservative delusion that porn == evil. It's bullshit. Porn == naked ladies/men. Yes there is more extreme/nasty stuff out there. I rely on the moral values I have instilled in my son to protect him from such things. I hope that he will feel no need to view such material.
It's all about realising that people cannot be restricted to a rule based existence. You have to help them develop a world view that encourages respect for their fellows. I happen to believe this does not exclude getting hot for pictures of naked ladies.
Oh. Actually I hadn't given this much thought before, I didn't think that a thing you don't have the option to decline isn't a proper licence. I suppose giving no choice doesn't make for a proper contract.
Likely they rely on the dmca provisions then
a few things.
First, good points, I enjoyed reading this.
Second. I always forget the whole 'personal use' thing.
Thirdly (is that proper english?), is it not that there is a licence statement when you start playing the dvd?
Oh wait, you called me a 'Whiney Mac Fanboy', didn't notice till just now.
I want to dispute that, so, but, ah.
Aw crap, you're right...
That's what I meant. The copy of which you speak is subject to a licence that entitles you to own one copy of that movie. The publisher owns the copyright, and they assign you a limited licence.
:-)
licence/copy are interchangeable here unless this is a paper on copyright. I was trying to be brief.
Also, I give you a C- on your response, must do better. My post is not thoroughly researched, the information is several years old, I think you could have ripped into me way more
For heavens sake, get indignant, shoot my post down in flames, destroy my arguments in a torrent of logic and references, this is slashdot...
yes ok, sorry, got that wrong. I was thinking about distribution.