The end of the article says to expect a return to single player...
But I would be less surpised to hear that Carmack is working on something massively muti-player. We've heard him mention EverQuest before, and the man is a network coding GOD as anyone who has played Q3 knows. A MMP game need not be EQ or Ultima-ish. Remember a long long time ago when Carmack speculated about quake being a persistant game with servers controlling certain regions, and moving out of that region and into another would transparently move you to a different server?
The technology is available now to render large outdoor scenes, as well as networks that can handle thousands and maybe a million (ten-six?) simaltaneous users. I wouldn't be surprised if Carmack and his designers set their sights to a cross between everquest and quake -- in other words, how he ORIGINALLY envisioned Quake.
I agree, gnutella right now is full of flaws. And it won't change the world. But decentralized networking is such a cool idea it makes EE students in networking like me drool.
Supposing the clients will be able to figure out who has fast connections and who has slow ones, the faster ones can become "central" with slower clients clustered concentrically around them, with decreasing speed.
Along the same lines, faster servers might recieve a file index from slower machines, and would cache this to prevent more message propogration. Essentially, faster machines would take on the responsibility of handling search queries.
Further, if they add good support for private networks you can really see how powerful it could be. If you have a couple hundred people in a group forming a private, key or password protected network, there are no problems with spammers, flooders, etc; no abuse in general.
All this makes me which I were a better programmer so I could do it myself.
Overclocking is one of the few "geek" pasttimes (actually a rather new one) that will not trickle out into the mainstream as other techs like MP3 have. The car analogy is always a good one, and just as only talented mechanics dare try improving their cars through dangerous methods like NO2, only hadrware geeks that build their own machines will change jumpers, add absurd cooling, and even cut and solder to crank out an extra 20% speed.
Of course, the mainstream will always pay others to do it for them, but the mainstream connection will be kept to a minimum because they don't actually DO it..
It's reassuring, in a way, that overclockers can be assured of strictly non-mainstream fellows among their ranks.
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Bob Metcalfe, who seems to be a hated figure amongst slashdotters, mentioned using regular copper as DSL-equivilant almost three years ago in this article dated July. 7, 1997.
Here's an excerpt:
The good news is that some of you can already buy inexpensive coppertone from telopolies. My ISP and I got some coppertone just last week. Now, don't ask anyone at your telephone company for coppertone or HDSL; this will get you nowhere. Instead, order a "burglar-alarm circuit," put some HDSL electronics at each end, and bingo, you can have 1.5Mbps for a fraction of what telopolies charge for T1 lines.
It costs Iridium LLC $10Million dollars per month to keep the satellites whizzing around the Earth. According to stories like this one it is going to cost $30-50Million for them to even de-orbit the satellites.
Bottom line: Maintaining a constellation of satellites is VERY VERY VERY expensive. To think that a group of people could raise $10 million a month for basically useless satellites for a non-profit purpose is just pure insanity or idiocy, whichever you prefer.
"No one" installing w2k is a rediculous statement. As someone above mentioned, a million copies is hardly "no one."
Also, the 65,000 "bugs" are not necessarily bugs. As has been discussed many times before when this story originally ran, the "bugs" are really just things that testers reported... including preferences, likes/dislikes, behavior, etc. SOME but not ALL of those "bugs" are actual bugs in the normal sense of the word.
If so many people wrote in to report the story, why did you choose the version that had to mislead readers two different ways?
This 70 second wait to repost is lame, because it doesn't let you post after 70 seconds since your first post, but since you last TRIED to post. Run the clock from the last successfully submitted post, dammit.
It would be a herculean effort to track down everyone who downloaded it based on IP addresses and times.
Not to mention a GROSS misuse of logs, and a GROSS disregard for privacy.
You'd think they just downloaded crack cocaine or something, you can't just track down people because you think they downloaded something YOU DON'T LIKE.
It's about the cheesiest thing since starship troopers. Tim robbins and gary sinise (sp?) can't save this movie from being a cheese-fest. It has almost every cliche from "no, i won't let you die" to "the mission should have been yours." Awful direction, a botched script. Not to mention obvious product placement! Dr. Pepper, SGI, etc..
The one good thing about the movie is that it is a realistic portrayal of what an actual mars mission could look like in thirty years. That was cool.
The other view is that more and more mainboards are using DIP switches instead of jumpers, making it easier. And of course ABIT brought BIOS-level clock setting changes, which (IMHO better)companies like ASUS now include.
I haven't had any athlon-overclocking experience, but I understand it is more difficult than changing a BIOS setting.;-)
I don't buy the idea that making a DVD version requires all that much time. It seems like he would want to focus on "Special Features" on the DVD.
But who ever uses those things?
If it came down to DVD titles being released simaltaneous with VHS and without special features or DVD with special features a few months (in this case YEARS) late, I would take a DVD w/o special features 90% of the time!
I've NEVER looked at "cast & crew" info for my DVD movies, and only a few times have I seen the "making of" parts, and I still would have bought the DVD without those features. To me, a DVD means a movie that won't degrade over time with awesome picture and sound. Case in point: Saving Private Ryan, DTS edition. Every DVD should be made this way. Emphasis on quality, the menus are simply and well-desgined. If Lucas is going to spend his time making stupid animated menus, forget it.
Enrollment is on the rise, but people are just beginning to overlook the usual social stigma of being a computer programmer and see that it is not like that and that they can make a lot of money doing it.
I agree. The generation that is in elementry school and middle school is growing up SURROUNDED by computers. The ridicule in that generation will be directed towards those who don't know how to turn on a computer rather than the computer programmers.
However, I do NOT beleive that Computer Scientists/Programmers will have the job security and availability that they enjoy now. I'm a sophomore at Berkeley, and when I get my EECS degree, companies will probably be falling over themselves to employ me. But the generation younger than me will have a much higher percentage of people interested in computers as a career, and I beleive the job market will become more competative 15 years from now when more students get EE/CS degrees or the equivalent from places like devry.
I think the most valuable skill to have for the next 50 years will be the ability to quickly learn new technology. Those who don't have the ability to learn quickly will run into a lot of trouble in the next couple decades.
Oh no you know what ad hominem means... i'm destroyed... I didn't say people who disagree with me didn't think, I said that it seems liked thats what some (a lot) of people did(n't do [think]).
Ok, suppose what you want happens: amazon drops the patent due to public pressure (I think we're overestimating the slashdot effect).
Then what? Because no legal precedent is set, some OTHER large company patents a similarly obvious idea, and now we're back at the beginning. In order to prevent this in the future, we need to set a LEGAL PRECEDENT. Thats the only thing these big companies care about, profits and staying out of the law's way.
This way, the courts will (hopefully) see that it's a BS patent and throw it out!
Doesn't anyone see that it's IDIOTIC to protest due process? I'm mystified. Utterly mystified. Shouldn't RMS be putting his efforts to better use, like informing people about how the patent should be invalid rather than this rediculous call for a boycott? What could a boycott POSSIBLY ACCOMPLISH?
I'm also saddened at how so many slashdotters will just agree with anything RMS says without thinking about it. Baaa baaa baaa baaa
Jeez, read the article... the bug is sometimes the toshiba notebooks have errors writing to the floppy disk. Toshiba claims they haven't been able to reproduce the errors in the laboratory.
It's even worse when you think about how universally unreliable floppies are anyways. It shouldn't be a surprise to anyone if their floppy disk suddenly doesn't work.
Slashdot Mirror
Here's the page:
/index.asp?p=workshops
http://www.avault.com/razercpl
That has the above linked MP3 of Carmack, and also a talk by Romero, which may or may not be as interesting.
The end of the article says to expect a return to single player...
But I would be less surpised to hear that Carmack is working on something massively muti-player. We've heard him mention EverQuest before, and the man is a network coding GOD as anyone who has played Q3 knows. A MMP game need not be EQ or Ultima-ish. Remember a long long time ago when Carmack speculated about quake being a persistant game with servers controlling certain regions, and moving out of that region and into another would transparently move you to a different server?
The technology is available now to render large outdoor scenes, as well as networks that can handle thousands and maybe a million (ten-six?) simaltaneous users. I wouldn't be surprised if Carmack and his designers set their sights to a cross between everquest and quake -- in other words, how he ORIGINALLY envisioned Quake.
I agree, gnutella right now is full of flaws. And it won't change the world. But decentralized networking is such a cool idea it makes EE students in networking like me drool.
Supposing the clients will be able to figure out who has fast connections and who has slow ones, the faster ones can become "central" with slower clients clustered concentrically around them, with decreasing speed.
Along the same lines, faster servers might recieve a file index from slower machines, and would cache this to prevent more message propogration. Essentially, faster machines would take on the responsibility of handling search queries.
Further, if they add good support for private networks you can really see how powerful it could be. If you have a couple hundred people in a group forming a private, key or password protected network, there are no problems with spammers, flooders, etc; no abuse in general.
All this makes me which I were a better programmer so I could do it myself.
Overclocking is one of the few "geek" pasttimes (actually a rather new one) that will not trickle out into the mainstream as other techs like MP3 have. The car analogy is always a good one, and just as only talented mechanics dare try improving their cars through dangerous methods like NO2, only hadrware geeks that build their own machines will change jumpers, add absurd cooling, and even cut and solder to crank out an extra 20% speed.
Of course, the mainstream will always pay others to do it for them, but the mainstream connection will be kept to a minimum because they don't actually DO it..
It's reassuring, in a way, that overclockers can be assured of strictly non-mainstream fellows among their ranks.
Bob Metcalfe, who seems to be a hated figure amongst slashdotters, mentioned using regular copper as DSL-equivilant almost three years ago in this article dated July. 7, 1997.
Here's an excerpt:
The good news is that some of you can already buy inexpensive coppertone from telopolies. My ISP and I got some coppertone just last week. Now, don't ask anyone at your telephone company for coppertone or HDSL; this will get you nowhere. Instead, order a "burglar-alarm circuit," put some HDSL electronics at each end, and bingo, you can have 1.5Mbps for a fraction of what telopolies charge for T1 lines.
So give the guy some credit!
It costs Iridium LLC $10Million dollars per month to keep the satellites whizzing around the Earth. According to stories like this one it is going to cost $30-50Million for them to even de-orbit the satellites.
Bottom line: Maintaining a constellation of satellites is VERY VERY VERY expensive. To think that a group of people could raise $10 million a month for basically useless satellites for a non-profit purpose is just pure insanity or idiocy, whichever you prefer.
You guys should call this Slantdot.
"No one" installing w2k is a rediculous statement. As someone above mentioned, a million copies is hardly "no one."
Also, the 65,000 "bugs" are not necessarily bugs. As has been discussed many times before when this story originally ran, the "bugs" are really just things that testers reported... including preferences, likes/dislikes, behavior, etc. SOME but not ALL of those "bugs" are actual bugs in the normal sense of the word.
If so many people wrote in to report the story, why did you choose the version that had to mislead readers two different ways?
Hahah... blacking = blocking
I even used preview.
This 70 second wait to repost is lame, because it doesn't let you post after 70 seconds since your first post, but since you last TRIED to post. Run the clock from the last successfully submitted post, dammit.
Just give up. If I can listen to it or watch it I can copy it if I really want to.
You're only going to inconvenience legitimate customers by encrypting and licensing and tracking down and blacking all the bad guys.
So just give it up!!!
It would be a herculean effort to track down everyone who downloaded it based on IP addresses and times.
Not to mention a GROSS misuse of logs, and a GROSS disregard for privacy.
You'd think they just downloaded crack cocaine or something, you can't just track down people because you think they downloaded something YOU DON'T LIKE.
Have you SEEN this movie? No? Good, don't.
It's about the cheesiest thing since starship troopers. Tim robbins and gary sinise (sp?) can't save this movie from being a cheese-fest. It has almost every cliche from "no, i won't let you die" to "the mission should have been yours." Awful direction, a botched script. Not to mention obvious product placement! Dr. Pepper, SGI, etc..
The one good thing about the movie is that it is a realistic portrayal of what an actual mars mission could look like in thirty years. That was cool.
Well, that's one view.
;-)
The other view is that more and more mainboards are using DIP switches instead of jumpers, making it easier. And of course ABIT brought BIOS-level clock setting changes, which (IMHO better)companies like ASUS now include.
I haven't had any athlon-overclocking experience, but I understand it is more difficult than changing a BIOS setting.
I agree, a linux port of Office invalidates 60% of the reason most offices run windows!
It's GOTTA be BS.
I'm using W2K pro as a workstation.
I use the machine for programming, web browsing, FTP serving, and Q3 and Half-Life. Check it:
G:\WINNT>uptime
Uptime - system uptime utility for Windows NT
by Mark Russinovich
Systems Internals - http://www.sysinternals.com
This computer has been up for 14 days, 10 hours, 12 minutes, 43 seconds.
G:\WINNT>
That's not so bad, now is it?
Anyone know what order the books are in? which ones should be read first, etc?
If I wanted to read something Gibson, what should I try?
A web page showing mindcraft benchmarks should always be accompanied by the smell of bull-you-know-what.
I don't buy the idea that making a DVD version requires all that much time. It seems like he would want to focus on "Special Features" on the DVD.
But who ever uses those things?
If it came down to DVD titles being released simaltaneous with VHS and without special features or DVD with special features a few months (in this case YEARS) late, I would take a DVD w/o special features 90% of the time!
I've NEVER looked at "cast & crew" info for my DVD movies, and only a few times have I seen the "making of" parts, and I still would have bought the DVD without those features. To me, a DVD means a movie that won't degrade over time with awesome picture and sound. Case in point: Saving Private Ryan, DTS edition. Every DVD should be made this way. Emphasis on quality, the menus are simply and well-desgined. If Lucas is going to spend his time making stupid animated menus, forget it.
Enrollment is on the rise, but people are just beginning to overlook the usual social stigma of being a computer programmer and see that it is not like that and that they can make a lot of money doing it.
I agree. The generation that is in elementry school and middle school is growing up SURROUNDED by computers. The ridicule in that generation will be directed towards those who don't know how to turn on a computer rather than the computer programmers.
However, I do NOT beleive that Computer Scientists/Programmers will have the job security and availability that they enjoy now. I'm a sophomore at Berkeley, and when I get my EECS degree, companies will probably be falling over themselves to employ me. But the generation younger than me will have a much higher percentage of people interested in computers as a career, and I beleive the job market will become more competative 15 years from now when more students get EE/CS degrees or the equivalent from places like devry.
I think the most valuable skill to have for the next 50 years will be the ability to quickly learn new technology. Those who don't have the ability to learn quickly will run into a lot of trouble in the next couple decades.
They've been "finally" doing things that work for the last 40 years. Dumbass.
Oh no you know what ad hominem means... i'm destroyed... I didn't say people who disagree with me didn't think, I said that it seems liked thats what some (a lot) of people did(n't do [think]).
Ok, suppose what you want happens: amazon drops the patent due to public pressure (I think we're overestimating the slashdot effect).
Then what? Because no legal precedent is set, some OTHER large company patents a similarly obvious idea, and now we're back at the beginning. In order to prevent this in the future, we need to set a LEGAL PRECEDENT. Thats the only thing these big companies care about, profits and staying out of the law's way.
Yeah, Amazon's patent is stupid.
But protesting them bringing it court???
RMS should be GLAD!
This way, the courts will (hopefully) see that it's a BS patent and throw it out!
Doesn't anyone see that it's IDIOTIC to protest due process? I'm mystified. Utterly mystified. Shouldn't RMS be putting his efforts to better use, like informing people about how the patent should be invalid rather than this rediculous call for a boycott? What could a boycott POSSIBLY ACCOMPLISH?
I'm also saddened at how so many slashdotters will just agree with anything RMS says without thinking about it. Baaa baaa baaa baaa
"Let no one think or maintain that a person can search too far or be too well studied in either the book of God's word or the book of God's works."
Said by Francis Bacon
Darwin used it as a preface to his Origin of Species.
Jeez, read the article... the bug is sometimes the toshiba notebooks have errors writing to the floppy disk. Toshiba claims they haven't been able to reproduce the errors in the laboratory.
It's even worse when you think about how universally unreliable floppies are anyways. It shouldn't be a surprise to anyone if their floppy disk suddenly doesn't work.
I think they just want to prevent any "cyberwar" from starting over their network. As to the porn, they don't want to waste their bandwitdh.
If i could afford $400/mo I wouldn't care about these policies.
... is hearing a cute girl say "so i was playing a little quake 3 last night..."
biggest turn-off:
being BEATEN by a girl in quake. Doh!