Sorry for replying to myself - this will all require some sort of hosted service to enable the collaboration. Consumers can subscribe to MS offering, Business can do same or can self-host.
Office Web will run on Silverlight (with some Ajax), so will be supported on Linux via Moonlight. "An Extension" is meant in a service orientated way, not something that you install beside office on your windows desktop. Watch for yourself (requires Silverlight) how the live collaboration works between the desktop app and browser hosted app.
It was a feedback effect. By leaving, someone not quite as talented took my place. And soon more people decided it was time to leave Also known as the Dead Sea Effect
I don't necessarily mean hi-def movies, which yes will take ages. 40min TV shows generally weigh in at 350MB (if the BT sites are anything to go by) so delivery is minutes, not hours. I do mean instant delivery, but not instant consumption.
My router does QOS so that solves problems when using the network on other devices. And then when you are not using it when you are asleep at night, in work the next day etc, the device can use all available bandwidth. What I'm saying is there are plenty of ways to set it such that other network uses are not affected.
I imagine when you buy (not rent) a movie through a service you can download it whenever you want, like Valve's Steam game download service. So you'll only need enough space to store whatever content (not just 1080p HD movies) you currently want to watch. There is a content delivery battle going on, and 1080p movies are just the high end part. People want a unified service.
Storage connected to the TV is achieved by, TiVo, Xbox360, PS3, AppleTV, your own HTPC, Sky+ or any number of cable setop boxes that are on the way.
it was far to much of a hassle for the general public What is easier? ordering content via remote for immediate delivery or ordering online and waiting for it?
Things change much faster now, technology is moving at a faster pace.
1. The rental services will come, quicker than bluray in dash players for cars. Until then, renting\buying DVD's that you can TAKE WITH YOU and will work in all that hardware that people have already invested money in will remain the status quo for some time. Expect amazon to build a kindle for movies.
2. Yes they are GOOD ENOUGH. TruHD does look better, but not BETTER ENOUGH. People don't really care. I don't really care if I watch Lost at 480p, 720p or 1080p, and I'm not mr.average.
3. There are solutions to this: The 360 will allow you to play the move while it's being download. Sky+ allow you to record a program via your phone, so expect ways to tell your provider to start content delivery so it's there when get home. Also expect them to be Tivo like and pre-deliver content based on your preferences. The top 20 rentals may already be downloaded. Episodes may already be download as soon as they are reldased. I hope to be just sitting there and a message pops up on my TV - "Latest episode of Top Gear ready for viewing". I imagine the content delivery will come from caching service on ISP's own network too. Downloading 5GB is already faster than buying from an online store and waiting for it to be shipped. Alternative is to get in the car and go to a store that may not even have it, and anyway I couldn't be bothered getting off the couch when I can order it with my remote.
4. Adoption for new tech is much faster now than in 1995, the lauch year of the DVD. Most people didn't have internet connections then. Information flows faster, people are more informed. The movie ownership facility will come too, just like MP3 stores today with no DRM.
New physical media and new hardware for digital distribuion will have a very short lifespan.
(Why can't I just download new 360 games? Because MS doesn't want to sour releationship with retail channel who are pushing the hardware, god damnit.)
I also forsee micro-generation. Small wind turbines and solar panels at each house generating additional power and storing it (in batteries or creating hydrogen or similar).
The carries will heavily customise and modify phones, adding and removing what they please. For instance, vodafone set on of the soft keys to vodafone Live by default to try to keep users in their walled garden, regardless of the factory setup of the phone.
The amusing thing is that the most "open" platform at the moment is windows mobile. Even if you get a subsidised / locked one, it's easy to modify. There's a very active ROM scene (though it's a legal grey area), you can install whatever you like, and write what you want for it in C++ or.Net compact framework. I have skype, jabber client, remote desktop, vnc.
Getting symbian updates, even on unlocked phone is entirely at the whim of the manufacture, which usually doesn't happen.
But yeah, the cost of an unlocked phone is prohibitive.
They're smarter than that - they're going straight for the mobile market with Android. MS has a tiny consumer user base of Windows Mobile, and with iPhone, HTC, BlackJack and the upcoming SE Xperia's, the computer *will* be the mobile. Sooner or later, the majority of internet access will be via mobile phones (that seem to be morphing in to UMPCs every day).
That market is there for the taking.
There isn't really any gain to be had if they launched a disto, unless they do an apple and only support it on specific hardware.
There will be support for other lanugages. Google created their own open source VM called Dalvik:
"So, Android uses the syntax of the Java platform (the Java "language", if you wish, which is enough to make java programmers feel at home and IDEs to support the editing smoothly) and the java SE class library but not the Java bytecode or the Java virtual machine to execute it on the phone (and, note, Android's implementation of the Java SE class library is, indeed, Apache Harmony's!)" http://www.betaversion.org/~stefano/linotype/news/110/
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Sorry for replying to myself - this will all require some sort of hosted service to enable the collaboration. Consumers can subscribe to MS offering, Business can do same or can self-host.
Office Web will run on Silverlight (with some Ajax), so will be supported on Linux via Moonlight. "An Extension" is meant in a service orientated way, not something that you install beside office on your windows desktop. Watch for yourself (requires Silverlight) how the live collaboration works between the desktop app and browser hosted app.
Not yet. At the moment there is duplication of code - ribbon in C++ in office vs ribbon in WPF on Silverlight. Gradually all will be WPF.
It's silverlight based, so no. Also, it'll also run in Firefox on Linux via moonlight.
"Openfire (formerly Wildfire) is a cross-platform real-time collaboration server based on the XMPP (Jabber) protocol."
My local county council is installing charging points on the streets for electric vehicles.
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same, and I'm wtf'ing right now too.
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And it's been in their toolbar for donkeys (which I use *a lot*)
I don't necessarily mean hi-def movies, which yes will take ages. 40min TV shows generally weigh in at 350MB (if the BT sites are anything to go by) so delivery is minutes, not hours. I do mean instant delivery, but not instant consumption.
;)
My router does QOS so that solves problems when using the network on other devices. And then when you are not using it when you are asleep at night, in work the next day etc, the device can use all available bandwidth. What I'm saying is there are plenty of ways to set it such that other network uses are not affected.
And remote control is definitely easier
Amen. People value convience over quality, especially with the quality is "good enough".
Storage connected to the TV is achieved by, TiVo, Xbox360, PS3, AppleTV, your own HTPC, Sky+ or any number of cable setop boxes that are on the way. it was far to much of a hassle for the general public What is easier? ordering content via remote for immediate delivery or ordering online and waiting for it?
Things change much faster now, technology is moving at a faster pace.
1. The rental services will come, quicker than bluray in dash players for cars. Until then, renting\buying DVD's that you can TAKE WITH YOU and will work in all that hardware that people have already invested money in will remain the status quo for some time. Expect amazon to build a kindle for movies.
2. Yes they are GOOD ENOUGH. TruHD does look better, but not BETTER ENOUGH. People don't really care. I don't really care if I watch Lost at 480p, 720p or 1080p, and I'm not mr.average.
3. There are solutions to this: The 360 will allow you to play the move while it's being download. Sky+ allow you to record a program via your phone, so expect ways to tell your provider to start content delivery so it's there when get home. Also expect them to be Tivo like and pre-deliver content based on your preferences. The top 20 rentals may already be downloaded. Episodes may already be download as soon as they are reldased. I hope to be just sitting there and a message pops up on my TV - "Latest episode of Top Gear ready for viewing". I imagine the content delivery will come from caching service on ISP's own network too. Downloading 5GB is already faster than buying from an online store and waiting for it to be shipped. Alternative is to get in the car and go to a store that may not even have it, and anyway I couldn't be bothered getting off the couch when I can order it with my remote.
4. Adoption for new tech is much faster now than in 1995, the lauch year of the DVD. Most people didn't have internet connections then. Information flows faster, people are more informed. The movie ownership facility will come too, just like MP3 stores today with no DRM.
New physical media and new hardware for digital distribuion will have a very short lifespan.
(Why can't I just download new 360 games? Because MS doesn't want to sour releationship with retail channel who are pushing the hardware, god damnit.)
Was that legal advice?
I also forsee micro-generation. Small wind turbines and solar panels at each house generating additional power and storing it (in batteries or creating hydrogen or similar).
The carries will heavily customise and modify phones, adding and removing what they please. For instance, vodafone set on of the soft keys to vodafone Live by default to try to keep users in their walled garden, regardless of the factory setup of the phone.
The amusing thing is that the most "open" platform at the moment is windows mobile. Even if you get a subsidised / locked one, it's easy to modify. There's a very active ROM scene (though it's a legal grey area), you can install whatever you like, and write what you want for it in C++ or .Net compact framework. I have skype, jabber client, remote desktop, vnc.
Getting symbian updates, even on unlocked phone is entirely at the whim of the manufacture, which usually doesn't happen.
But yeah, the cost of an unlocked phone is prohibitive.
They're smarter than that - they're going straight for the mobile market with Android. MS has a tiny consumer user base of Windows Mobile, and with iPhone, HTC, BlackJack and the upcoming SE Xperia's, the computer *will* be the mobile. Sooner or later, the majority of internet access will be via mobile phones (that seem to be morphing in to UMPCs every day).
That market is there for the taking.
There isn't really any gain to be had if they launched a disto, unless they do an apple and only support it on specific hardware.
Hopefully we'll see official support of mono in the same manner as moonlight / silverlight.
Prove it first.
What if a tree falls, in space?
There will be support for other lanugages. Google created their own open source VM called Dalvik:
"So, Android uses the syntax of the Java platform (the Java "language", if you wish, which is enough to make java programmers feel at home and IDEs to support the editing smoothly) and the java SE class library but not the Java bytecode or the Java virtual machine to execute it on the phone (and, note, Android's implementation of the Java SE class library is, indeed, Apache Harmony's!)" http://www.betaversion.org/~stefano/linotype/news/110/
I expect to see a c# compiler (http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2007/Nov-13-1.html) and others in due course.
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