Good point, though, since the article said that the gender gap was narrowing in other science/math related fields - like civil (or any other kind) of engineering.
There were 2 women in my CS classes. I consider neither as a good programmer. Maybe I didn't take my CS at the right place...
At my school, everybody in first year engineering (*everybody*, from Chemmies who had never programmed before, or since, to Software folks, who, well, are in software).
At least 80% of the class - me included - had never programmed before. I found I was a better programmer then some of my male classmates, but decided not to go into software engineering after talking to a third-year friend (in software), who told me about her classmates and professors.
There was absoutely no difference between women who were new to programming and men. Either you are imagining that or you wound up with two sub-standard women in your classes (hint: 2 people isn't much of a sample population:p).
I used to think of women as persons, but was sadly disappointed so I went back to thinking of them as sexual objects (they are much more pleasant that way and won't be forever disappointing you).
My first thought upon reading that was that I was offended.
Then it occured to me that I don't actually know you in person. We're all electrons here - you can't possibly think of me as a sexual object.
Maybe it's because a lot of the men in the field are completely inept individuals with the people skills of a rat?
It's not just men that have the people skills of rats (or hibiscus plants, or whatever).
I've got the people skills of a tomato, but that doesn't stop me from being a woman in engineering.
That makes sense sometimes, although not in your case.
I'm not annoyed that they wanted to know which passwords we chose when I was in elementary school - in hindsight, it meant that we actually got cryptic passwords, instead of all choosing "hello" or "password".
However, if they'd tried that trick in high school or university, that's a different story.
I'm an undergrad engineering student, and I found a summer job typing things out from micro-cassettes.
I've found that I've almost doubled the speed at which I can get through a cassette, since I started. However, my typing speed (and ability to use Word) seems to have remained almost constant. What is at issue here, in particular, is knowing how to read my boss' handwriting and understand his voice as I type, and little tricks like recognising when to press "Pause".
I've always blamed the fact that typing tests always want me to use American spelling, despite the fact that I've been using Canadian spelling all my life.
Of course, I had to make five or six mistakes typing that short sentence, thank goodness I had the backspace.:)
I know about 30 norwiegen bands and i'm not from there.
Have you bought any of their music?
I've downloaded a lot of things that I've tried unsuccessfully to find at record stores. Some european music, for instance, (I'm Canadian, and a lot of music that's easy to find in Europe is pretty hard to find here), and various other obscure things.
If I hadn't downloaded, I wouldn't have bought either, because I can't find them. However, I wouldn't have looked, either, because of not knowing about them.
Downloading's legal in Canada, anyway... just not uploading.
what about the poor studio musician who doesn't do live concerts
IMO, he should do live concerts. Music is so much better live. But that's just my opinion.
You do know that Canada isn't bone-chilling cold year round, right? People live in the Yukon, the Northwest Territories, and Nunavut. People hunt there, people mine there.
Yes, but not very many people. And last I heard, it was pretty hard to get decent Internet access. (Granted, I'm from much further south in Canada, so things may have progressed since I last heard.)
It is, however, still possible, and I can wait until the slashdot effect wears of and I can see how many of the places in Nunavut have been visited.:)
"Thanks. No, I wasn't trolling, just too lazy to search. Anyone else want to answer... in miles? Hell, I'll even accept answers in km"
They all meet at the poles. So the answer would be 0, I believe, no matter what units you use. (Although I prefer km).
Even in places where you CAN go (politcally, legally) you still can't (logistically) like the whole north half of friggin Canada or Siberia.
Yep, that would be why everything south of about the 50th parallel in Ontario has been visited, and almost nothing north of there has.
But people still live there, and eventually they'll get visited. (After all, the Earth'll be around to have it's picture taken for a couple billion more years)
"I think somebody should do the same type of thing, but with intersections of lines that are multiples of ten."
Not all of the sites have been visited, though. At some latitudes there are probably about that ratio of sites that have been visited.
"and who defines "boring"? My ex-S.O. grew up in the desert and hates trees"
Regardless of what you consider interesting, there should still be "a set of images where the ratio of "boring" to "beautiful" images approximates how the world is actually like". It's still random.
(or alternatively, you could look at the Python source code which is very interesting for all the lazy CS students on holiday like me;)
That kind of negates the idea of people not downloading over the summer, you'd need to download the source code in order to look at it.
Show me one free, instant, on-line translation tool that DOES produce sensical translations.
Where's the fun in that?
For instance, let's take a quote. I found this one in someone's signature a while ago. "The main reason for the downfall of the Roman Empire was, that lacking zero, they had no way to indicate successful completion of a C program"
Translate it to English to German: "der Hauptgrund für den Downfall des römischen Reiches war, dieses mangelnde null, sie hatte keine Weise, erfolgreiche Beendigung eines c-Programms anzuzeigen"
I don't know German, so let's go back to English: "The Main reason for the case of down OF the novel Empire which, that lacking zero, they had NO way ton indicate successful completion OF A C program"
It's already getting a little garbled, but let's not stop yet. From garbled English to French: "la raison principale du cas de vers le bas de l'empire de roman que, ce zéro manquer, elles n'a fait indiquer AUCUNE tonne de manière l'accomplissement réussi du programme C de A"
I do know French, and that doesn't look quite right. Let's go back to English again: "principal reason of the case of to the bottom of the empire of novel that, this zero to miss, they did not make indicate ANY ton in manner the achievement successful of the program C of A"
You could, of course, send the result to Portugeese and back, ending up with: "main reason of the example to the deep one of the empire of the novel that, this zero to lack, had not made to indicate ANY ton in the way the successful accomplishment it program C of"
Or through Italian, which leaves us with: "main reason of the example to that deep one of the empire of the novel of that, this zero to difettare of, had not made in order to indicate WHICHEVER ton in the sense the succeeded realization it program C"
Now where would we be if we didn't have Google's Translation sevice to make fun of?
Even so you're not allowed to drink it until you turn 21. Maybe not that much of a difference for those of you who are 21 or older, but those of us who are 18/19/20 really appreciate those three extra years of drunkenness.:)
Toronto doesn't have very many french people, so I don't know what you're talking about. From what I see after a year of university in Southern Ontario, they don't seem to like Quebec much. ("Some of us would be quite happy to elect a Bloc Quebecois MP to get rid of them sooner", etc)...so maybe you would have been treated better if you hadn't even tried to speak french?
Please, I'm sure you've just run into a bad bunch of people, don't give up on the country yet! Or visit somewhere out west, where they have no/very little use for French.
But how can I sell you shit, when you know its shit?
Easy, don't tell us it's shit. Bill Gates is making a fortune doing that!
Wouldn't be a big deal normally, but they could have greater influence in a minority gov't. Lets hope they focus on things they understand, like health care.
One supports the other. If a movie/song is terrible, I delete it. If it's good, I buy it, and often, other movies/songs by the same artists. If you track my spending habits, my downloading is directly linked to my spending. I'm the same way with books, I hit the library and if I read something I know I want to read again, I buy it.
That's what borrowing from your friends is for. Where do you find out about these movies, songs, and books, if not from your friends?
They mean "average time between reports for an average target IP address".
Which means they assume all of those are from worms, and all worms are successful, etc.
It's still a bloody short time, though.
Of course, for techies, using the term "Sun" capitalized poses a risk of confusion with a large technology company...
Or with a newspaper, for those of us who have a local Sun newspaper. Although that's not confined to techies.
it means that they're becoming bridge architects
Uh... civil engineers do that.
Good point, though, since the article said that the gender gap was narrowing in other science/math related fields - like civil (or any other kind) of engineering.
There were 2 women in my CS classes. I consider neither as a good programmer. Maybe I didn't take my CS at the right place...
:p).
At my school, everybody in first year engineering (*everybody*, from Chemmies who had never programmed before, or since, to Software folks, who, well, are in software).
At least 80% of the class - me included - had never programmed before. I found I was a better programmer then some of my male classmates, but decided not to go into software engineering after talking to a third-year friend (in software), who told me about her classmates and professors.
There was absoutely no difference between women who were new to programming and men. Either you are imagining that or you wound up with two sub-standard women in your classes (hint: 2 people isn't much of a sample population
Is "wash the cat" a euphemism for "masturbate"?
That's "killing kittens", I believe.
I used to think of women as persons, but was sadly disappointed so I went back to thinking of them as sexual objects (they are much more pleasant that way and won't be forever disappointing you).
My first thought upon reading that was that I was offended.
Then it occured to me that I don't actually know you in person. We're all electrons here - you can't possibly think of me as a sexual object.
Maybe it's because a lot of the men in the field are completely inept individuals with the people skills of a rat?
It's not just men that have the people skills of rats (or hibiscus plants, or whatever).
I've got the people skills of a tomato, but that doesn't stop me from being a woman in engineering.
That makes sense sometimes, although not in your case. I'm not annoyed that they wanted to know which passwords we chose when I was in elementary school - in hindsight, it meant that we actually got cryptic passwords, instead of all choosing "hello" or "password". However, if they'd tried that trick in high school or university, that's a different story.
I find it interesting that that post is right below Pharmboy's post about people who write their passwords on stickies stuck on their monitors.
The qwerty keyboard is really quite lame.
Wasn't that to slow down people typing on a typewriter to a speed that the typewriter would be able to deal with?
I agree.
I'm an undergrad engineering student, and I found a summer job typing things out from micro-cassettes.
I've found that I've almost doubled the speed at which I can get through a cassette, since I started. However, my typing speed (and ability to use Word) seems to have remained almost constant. What is at issue here, in particular, is knowing how to read my boss' handwriting and understand his voice as I type, and little tricks like recognising when to press "Pause".
I've always blamed the fact that typing tests always want me to use American spelling, despite the fact that I've been using Canadian spelling all my life.
:)
Of course, I had to make five or six mistakes typing that short sentence, thank goodness I had the backspace.
I know about 30 norwiegen bands and i'm not from there.
Have you bought any of their music?
I've downloaded a lot of things that I've tried unsuccessfully to find at record stores. Some european music, for instance, (I'm Canadian, and a lot of music that's easy to find in Europe is pretty hard to find here), and various other obscure things.
If I hadn't downloaded, I wouldn't have bought either, because I can't find them. However, I wouldn't have looked, either, because of not knowing about them.
Downloading's legal in Canada, anyway... just not uploading.
what about the poor studio musician who doesn't do live concerts
IMO, he should do live concerts. Music is so much better live. But that's just my opinion.
You do know that Canada isn't bone-chilling cold year round, right? People live in the Yukon, the Northwest Territories, and Nunavut. People hunt there, people mine there.
:)
Yes, but not very many people. And last I heard, it was pretty hard to get decent Internet access. (Granted, I'm from much further south in Canada, so things may have progressed since I last heard.)
It is, however, still possible, and I can wait until the slashdot effect wears of and I can see how many of the places in Nunavut have been visited.
"Thanks. No, I wasn't trolling, just too lazy to search. Anyone else want to answer... in miles? Hell, I'll even accept answers in km"
They all meet at the poles. So the answer would be 0, I believe, no matter what units you use. (Although I prefer km).
Even in places where you CAN go (politcally, legally) you still can't (logistically) like the whole north half of friggin Canada or Siberia.
Yep, that would be why everything south of about the 50th parallel in Ontario has been visited, and almost nothing north of there has.
But people still live there, and eventually they'll get visited. (After all, the Earth'll be around to have it's picture taken for a couple billion more years)
"I think somebody should do the same type of thing, but with intersections of lines that are multiples of ten."
Not all of the sites have been visited, though. At some latitudes there are probably about that ratio of sites that have been visited.
"and who defines "boring"? My ex-S.O. grew up in the desert and hates trees"
Regardless of what you consider interesting, there should still be "a set of images where the ratio of "boring" to "beautiful" images approximates how the world is actually like". It's still random.
(or alternatively, you could look at the Python source code which is very interesting for all the lazy CS students on holiday like me ;)
That kind of negates the idea of people not downloading over the summer, you'd need to download the source code in order to look at it.
Show me one free, instant, on-line translation tool that DOES produce sensical translations.
Where's the fun in that?
For instance, let's take a quote. I found this one in someone's signature a while ago.
"The main reason for the downfall of the Roman Empire was, that lacking zero, they had no way to indicate successful completion of a C program"
Translate it to English to German:
"der Hauptgrund für den Downfall des römischen Reiches war, dieses mangelnde null, sie hatte keine Weise, erfolgreiche Beendigung eines c-Programms anzuzeigen"
I don't know German, so let's go back to English:
"The Main reason for the case of down OF the novel Empire which, that lacking zero, they had NO way ton indicate successful completion OF A C program"
It's already getting a little garbled, but let's not stop yet. From garbled English to French:
"la raison principale du cas de vers le bas de l'empire de roman que, ce zéro manquer, elles n'a fait indiquer AUCUNE tonne de manière l'accomplissement réussi du programme C de A"
I do know French, and that doesn't look quite right. Let's go back to English again:
"principal reason of the case of to the bottom of the empire of novel that, this zero to miss, they did not make indicate ANY ton in manner the achievement successful of the program C of A"
You could, of course, send the result to Portugeese and back, ending up with:
"main reason of the example to the deep one of the empire of the novel that, this zero to lack, had not made to indicate ANY ton in the way the successful accomplishment it program C of"
Or through Italian, which leaves us with:
"main reason of the example to that deep one of the empire of the novel of that, this zero to difettare of, had not made in order to indicate WHICHEVER ton in the sense the succeeded realization it program C"
Now where would we be if we didn't have Google's Translation sevice to make fun of?
Even so you're not allowed to drink it until you turn 21. Maybe not that much of a difference for those of you who are 21 or older, but those of us who are 18/19/20 really appreciate those three extra years of drunkenness. :)
In order to prove that the phrase "all americans are fat and stupid" is false only one smart and/or skinny person needs to be found.
Yes, exactly... please tell us when you find one.
Toronto doesn't have very many french people, so I don't know what you're talking about.
From what I see after a year of university in Southern Ontario, they don't seem to like Quebec much. ("Some of us would be quite happy to elect a Bloc Quebecois MP to get rid of them sooner", etc)...so maybe you would have been treated better if you hadn't even tried to speak french?
Please, I'm sure you've just run into a bad bunch of people, don't give up on the country yet! Or visit somewhere out west, where they have no/very little use for French.
But how can I sell you shit, when you know its shit?
Easy, don't tell us it's shit. Bill Gates is making a fortune doing that!
Wouldn't be a big deal normally, but they could have greater influence in a minority gov't. Lets hope they focus on things they understand, like health care.
Yes, but Paul Martin announced that he could do without a formal coalition.
One supports the other. If a movie/song is terrible, I delete it. If it's good, I buy it, and often, other movies/songs by the same artists. If you track my spending habits, my downloading is directly linked to my spending. I'm the same way with books, I hit the library and if I read something I know I want to read again, I buy it.
That's what borrowing from your friends is for. Where do you find out about these movies, songs, and books, if not from your friends?