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Visiting Every Latitude and Longitude Intersection
Kevin A. Pieckiel writes "The Degree Confluence Project's goal is to visit every latitude and logitude degree integer intersection in the world and journal it on this web site. An excerpt: 'The project is an organized sampling of the world. There is a confluence within 49 miles (79 km) of you if you're on the surface of Earth. We've discounted confluences in the oceans and some near the poles, but there are still 12,889 to be found.' A neat project, indeed." As Timothy noted, I've posted before, and in Slashback form; a while back.
That's a real party confluence. I bet I know why there are no pictures available.
...take loads of photos at each one to make a 360 degree photo. would be a nice way of seeing what the world is like.
Why?
How is this project any more interesting or useful than a confluence of any other human-specified arbitrary classification, e.g. visiting every peak who altitude in cubits is a prime number?
Some of these are going to be on private property and restricted access (e.g. military) sites. A local GeoCache was on a confluence, but pulled because it was on private property. Probably best to ask permission before tresspassing, lest the intrepid explorer find their butt full of rocksalt or buckshot.
A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
half way through this project this guys will wonder, "why are we doing this again?"
I think a Slashdotting counts as "two or more streams"...
confluence n.
1. A flowing together of two or more streams.
2. The point of juncture of such streams.
3. The combined stream formed by this juncture.
"Can of worms? The can is open... the worms are everywhere."
it intersects in the center of the White House?
It would be interesting to see a summary listing spots that are the most extreme in any way.
Simpy
I don't mean to be overly-critical of this, but while I think this is a very interesting idea for a project, but I'm not sure the result is half as interesting as the idea. I think it would be a more interesting read if it were just one person or a small group of people visting all of these intersections.
Actually, that's a lot to read, I think somebody should do the same type of thing, but with intersections of lines that are multiples of ten. I mean, you would still get a reasonably complete view of the world and all of the places in it.
Another idea to make the product of this more interesting would be 360 degree panorama shots at each intersection. Again, this would be somehting more easily accomplished if it were just one person or a small group of people doing this.
And how does this qualify as newsworthy on Slashdot?
News for NERDS!!!
why do they keep posting meaningless or nearly meaningless stories on slashdot considering that this story was already posted before i really don't need to see it again
Assuming the girls know about the extra relationships, and are ok with it, that's a lot of latitude!
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my bro and I got puerto rico... it was a good time.. Anmyone want'n to spend some quality time with a brother or father this is a great project.
Methinks the shark /. jumped this morning just did its own jumping...
I'd have more respect if they visited every White Castle
OK, just don't make me eat there. eeuww.
I might try this sometime- but I think 45N 121W is right smack dab in the middle of the Warm Springs Reservation....
SJW: a person who perceives an injustice, and while correcting it, commits a greater injustice.
There's no fun in visiting white castles or ikea stores, since common people can do that as well. Stuff like this is that lets us brag about how "geek" we are.
Well, if you live in the area and are looking for some place to hike, a Confluence is as good a goal as many other hiking locations.
And it'll be off the beaten path.
"Can of worms? The can is open... the worms are everywhere."
Random pictures at arbitrary points on the planet.
Sounds just like every other photo blog.
I found every single one of them. They're all right here on my globe.
I'd have more respect if they visited every White Castle or all of the Ikea stores.
Here's something close: Project Denny's
Yep. Probably around 9 or 10 AM tomorrow when they sober up....
I'd be curious about how many of these intersections lie inside of buildings or other private property. Has anyone found an intersection yet that could be unvisitable? You know, something like an intersection in the middle of a military complex or something?
Good luck, you'll need it!
You know, fuck you! This is hella neat. Why don't you go back to your breakfast of boners and toast?
Do you love freedom??? Do you love freedom!!! DO YOU LOVE FREEDOM!!!!!!!!
They should put a mirror of the website at every point they visit to defend against the inevitable /.ing they are going to receive :o)
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Somehow, Wowbagger the Infinitely Prolonged comes to mind.
Set up a solar powered WiFi node and weather station with satellite uplink at every confluence!
Stefan
What about the constitution of the first French Republic? Or the Second? Or the Third?
Heck, didn't last month's Italian government have some sort of "historical significance"?
But no, you just jump on the "beat up on an American" bandwagon over some comment on the lack of significance of arbitrary locations?
Picture with waitress(es) at every Hooter's. Receipt for Beer and Hotwings optional.
The only thing new in this world is the history that you don't know.[Harry Truman]
Wow, no one has a sense of wonder anymore.
It sounds to me like a great way to use both the internet's worldwide reach and its ease of publishing to do something extrordinary: enable anyone to see any part of this big blue ball of ours. You can read about countries and landmarks in encyclopedias, but you really can't get any idea of just how gigantic and diverse our world is without a project like this.
hehe omg, "breakfast of boners and toast".
I have to remember that one....
And how does this qualify as newsworthy on Slashdot?
News for nerds. Stuff that matters.
Finding Confluences is something that normally requires an understanding of maps, GPSs, or at least a desire to learn something about finding their location.
Sounds geeky to me. Since you are so bored of learning about confluences maybe you should start reading more Slashdot.
And fur coats. Honestly, that's in northern russia, and would be freezing cold. Hence, shared bodily warmth.
Here's a mapquest link
Hasn't another project already acheived this and begun interpolation?
And on top of that, we already have another project to visit all those locations, which have have been marked with a retail location by the previous project.
So while some redundancy may be a good thing, this sounds like overkill.
May I be the first to say (if not think):
Get A Life!!
Seriously though. All this effort. Can't you people donate this time and sweat to something that will help someone? Or do you really feel that you're helping people by picking your nose at every random spot here to timbucktoo?
Drill baby drill - on Mars
I bet you these points have already been found, just nobody has made such a fuss about them and catalogued them. It's a bit like saying that Lewis and Clark discovered a route to the west or that Livingston (or was it Stanley) discovered Victoria Falls. The local folks have been there for ages.
Engineering is the art of compromise.
Hey, if you've got all this money burning a hole in your wallet, why not send some to me? I promise to use at least some of it to pay bills and thus get out of debt.
Isn't this what the US is doing on it's "war on terror"?
I once worked with a fellow who wrote software for ICBM's and he commented that one of the worst places to be in the event of a nuclear exchange was at Lat 0, Long 0 because there where several possible failure modes where the missiles would try to find their way here
And 'common' people can't visit lat/long intersections?
The real difference is that WC or IKEA visits have a purpose, while visiting a coordinate in West Bumfuck, Indiana yields..well..not a whole hell of a lot. *camera click* Yay.
You know what?
Oooooookaayyyy..
So how about the confluences in North Korea, Tibet, Turkmenistan, Iran, etc... to name but a few.
These aren't places you can just "go to".
Even in places where you CAN go (politcally, legally) you still can't (logistically) like the whole north half of friggin Canada or Siberia.
Sounds like someone got drunk, had a brain fart and posted without thinking it through.
that would be my desk I think.....
I'm willing to bet the pictures from about 9,000 of these look pretty much all the same -- since they're all in the middle of the ocean!!!
that's here
Doesn't seem too bad, I was stuck in Beatty, NV for 6 weeks on a low-budget movie shoot, that's only 25 miles away.
Can't get the site to come up, but 37N runs through Arizona. I can't think of anything worth double-dog-dare status in Arizona, so I'm going to hazard a guess that it's in neighboring Nevada, and those coords are for Area 51?
Hmm... for some reason, the view from 90N 90W looks exactly like the view from 90N 90E...
People who cannot appreciate something like this cannot be real nerds!
.... with so many uber parochials as yourself.
You can take your camera to Iran and Tibet, no problems.
Even to North Korea, if you apply for the right permisions and follow the instructions of your guard.
Turkmenistan is tough but not impossible.
IANAL but write like a drunk one.
As a member of the Loyal Order of Shellbacks, I can attest that I and the crew of the good ship T.S. Enterprise crossed the equator at 85 degrees West , and 0 degrees North/South. There are many a mariner whom have completed this right of passage across the seven seas, none of whom will forget, either.
I found the "Any" key.
Normal people barely know that GPS exists, let alone how to turn off the map and read latitude and longitude- so how would they get there?
SJW: a person who perceives an injustice, and while correcting it, commits a greater injustice.
I looked at the site, and didn't see any indication of which version of lattitude/longitude they want people to use. There are several different models which can give slightly different coordinates for the same physical point (e.g. NAD 27, NAD 83, WGS 84).
Admittedly, the confluences under each grid are almost always within 100 meters of each other, which is what the project organizers consider acceptable accuracy, but it is still suprising that they don't make it explicit.
I took two days off work this week to travel from 37.6284 -92.3288 to 37.7503 -923973, spending the night at 37.6950 -92.3067. It was great!
I'll agree with North Korea. But Exactly what is th eproblem with Tibet? A lot of tourists are travelling there, there is no problems going there. How do you think all those souvernir salesmen in Lhasa make their living?
And Iran is, even though your president called it part of some fictious axes of evil, a very open and friendly place. In fact, it's probably the most "advanced" society in the middle east.
Stop watching Fox News and switch to Discovery or something instead. Or even better, try to travel outside your continent.
but what color was that bear?
Why is it that when someone comes up with an idea/goal, the Slashdot crowd has to belittle the idea as insignificant? This reminds me of high school when anyone who acted a bit different was made fun of because they didn't go along with the status quo. Yawn.
People, you are hackers/nerds! You are supposed to encourage each other to set goals and follow through on them.
Yes, I am biased. I visited five confluences when I was in Australia. Because I had to change my travel plans for the first confulence visit, I ended up meeting a girl which I dated for a year.
Life is short, go do something with your lives, don't tear down anyone who chooses to follow through on an idea, rather than just sit around and watch reruns of Friends.
There's a confluence about 20 miles southeast of my house. One night I convinced a friend of mine to help me go look for it, so we broke out the GPS and hit the road. After whacking our way through some overgrown forest, the place turned out to be in the middle of some farmer's paddock - I got to within ninteen feet, then cut and ran when an enormous black horse woke up and started stamping its feet at me.
:)
My friend thought I was completely insane, but I know better
I'm posting from Mars, you insensitive clod!
The worst part is that it's almost impossible to get a first post from here...
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It is interesting that a site about going to all corners of the Earth trying to create an "Organized Sampling of the World" is available only in English.
It sounds like a great way to tour the world on somebody else's nickel. Maybe I can bring back a tacky souvenier (or at least a sample of the water) from each location.
My rights don't need management.
I've done one confluence (http://www.confluence.org/confluence.php?lat=46&l on=-79) in Ontario now, and attempted a few more. My brother-in-law and I like them because they give us somewhere to go and a reason to go there.
... people are saying it's a waste of time, that this isn't a good project. Whos to say that programming whatever application you're working on isn't the same waste because who cares, theres already 15 other mail clients out there, or 27 other people who have already ported X to Y system .. thats not the point. Stop being so narrow minded.
In fact, I spent a week at the beginning of July trying to get some in Northern Ontario, but gave up. I never realized how swampy and densely tree'd the north is. It was really great to get out and see part of my country, as well as giving us a great appreciation for the people who first settled up there and the hardships they faced.
I highly reccomend everyone pick a confluence and go for it, even if it's done. It's a great excuse to get out and see your country and meet people. All you need is a GPS and some boots. For even more fun, pick somewhere where you get to canoe or kayak, or ski or mountain bike. It's great exercise and can mesh nicely with Geocaching.
Go, get some, and stop being so negative people
We emerge from our mother's womb an unformatted diskette; our culture formats us. - Douglas Coupland
It shows that, despite all the sprawl and overpopulation of the 20th century, most of the Earth is still not paved over with freeways, slums, or hamburger stands. Which is nice to know.
>;k
Because it might encourage slashdotters to go outside and get some fresh air and exercise.
This doesnt mean im volunteering..
Are they visiting Area51?
How far apart are 1deg longitudianal lines at the equator? How far apart, say, 10 or 20 degrees south of the north pole?
Also, I forget--do lines of latitude get closer together as you go closer to the poles, or are they all X miles apart?
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The US government released rights recently to allow for satellite imaging of the earth down to 1/2 meter resolution. At that resolution, they'll be able to take photos of every (legal) spot on earth at a resolution that will show objects up to the size of medium shrubs and even animals. Small buildings, and cars will be recognizable on these photos. It's more comprehensive, more up-to-date than this time-consuming and incomplete method of physically getting people to all 12000+ locations. Although it isn't "the same" as having a person take a few photos of the area, it gives you a very good idea of what the terrain is like, anywhere, not just at confluence.
Although this confluence project seems pretty cool, their execution of it doesn't seem very complete in the photo category. They go through all the trouble of getting to each location and just snap a couple pictures? They need a standard requirement of photos at each location in the same order so people can compare/contrast various locations. At least 8 photos taken to really "see" what the area looks like. Standard info about the temperature, time of year, possible changes to the environment at that point that might occur (construction, rivers, erosion...).
Good idea, none-the-less.
Authority questions you. Return the favor.
The Degree Confluence Project's goal is to visit every latitude and logitude degree integer intersection in the world and get laid! An excerpt: 'The project is a crazy pub-crawl road-trip of the bars and clubs of the world. There is a party within 49 miles (79 km) of you if you're on the surface of Earth. We've discounted anything in the oceans unless its some hot mermaid chicks, but there are still 12,889 buds to down!' A fucking bitching project, indeed." As Timothy noted, I've been smoking something strong lately.
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"We've discounted confluences in the oceans and some near the poles"
Sissies.
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The coordinates of the white house are
38.8967 , -77.0365
If you wait long enough, the page will appear. It appears to be NTS -- the DOE Nevada Test Site. It is the location of hundreds of nuclear weapons tests through 1992.
--Jimmy Hoffa's tomb!
--Bill Shatner's lost hairpiece!
--The Lost City of Sitnalta!
--The True Location of the Firesign Theater!
--Osama!
...And MANY MORE!!!
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Blue Feather Technologies
This project would be a lot easier if they were working in the more natural units of radians rather than degrees. :)
I would hike there, but the path was already beaten, apparently into submission.
"The Degree Confluence Project's goal is to visit every latitude and logitude degree integer intersection ..."
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Hey There
As often happens I've come across a word I just don't understand.
As often as this happens
My wife seems to know what that word, does, infact, mean.
Confluence, she says.
I think that they mean intersection.
"Clearly."
(Smart. Yet obtuse.)
I think confluence denotes a set of rivers or streams. Do they only mean to say intersections of waterways?
"Clearly not."
So I head over to dictionary.com.
con.flu.ence (n.):
1a) A flowing together of two or more streams.
1b) The point of juncture of such streams.
1c) The combined stream formed by this juncture.
2) A gathering, flowing, or meeting together at one juncture or point:
"A confluence of negative events conspired to bring down bond prices" (Michael Gonzalez).
So I guess the question is:
I can see the intent for the use of the word.
But to me it seems like a bit of a stretch.
More of a literary license.
Yes. The question:
Do I simply require access to a better dictionary?
Cheers,
--The Dude
If you want to build your own photo maps (on confluence points, or not) you could try the web photo map editor I just built: http://transmutable.com/93PhotoStreet/
Heres the only one in Nevada listed as unvisited, although there is a picture and a story...
Bleh!
We've discounted confluences in the oceans and some near the poles, but there are still 12,889 to be found.
You damn sissy! If you're gonna do a project, why do it half-way?! What a damn bum..
DOn't let the cold or the middle of the ocean stop ya'. Man has been to both poles. Man has covered the ocean. Why can't you do it now?
What is your penile percentile?
I had reason to drive through southern Indiana twice earlier this summer, off the Interstates. It was beautiful. You really ought to see more of the world, and I don't mean through a tour agent.
Hmm... apparently their SQL server got /.'ed. The error message is fairly humorous (Normal text with error message mixed in):
/public/private/confluence/liveinc/inc_library.php on line 258
The project is an organized sampling of the world. There is a confluence within 49 miles (79 km) of you if you're on the surface of Earth. We've discounted confluences in the oceans and some near the poles, but there are still
Warning: mysql_connect(): Too many connections in
0 to be found.
Hehehe... "still...too many connections"
(Warning: I'm easily ammused.)
...Had this been an actual emergency, we would have fled in terror, and you would not have been informed.
Visiting every White Castle location would probably result in a long, painful death from excessive razor-blade style flatulence... one would have to space it out some.
Like once a lifetime. *shudders*
SB
It's old. The more humans I meet, the more I like my cats. At least they are honest.
People usually take pictures of the four compass points. Close enough, really.
-russ
Don't piss off The Angry Economist
...does this sound like a colossal waste of time & resources to anyone else?
Server's finally dead. Took awhile too. Impressive.
Too bad all the ones in my state are already visited. The "aerial visits disqualified" is going to make this more challenging for places that have to be visited by sea.
I work for the Department of Redundancy Department.
Good point, AC, maybe you SHOULD get an account after all! ;-)
Starbucks is better than White Castle.
no ill feelings towards the South Eastern US (I live in Fl) but some of these must be wrong. If you have ever driven through the southern states, you would agree with me when I say that at least 3 of these MUST be right in the middle of a WalMart or WinnDixie.
... but, did you take pictures OF THE GIRL??? ;-) ;-)
/. start complaining about pointless misuse of "effort and resources". Depressing. I would love to visit my own, but I bet all So. Cali. points are taken (back to checking if they are).
On one of the confluences? Hmm, can you post them on the site?
Yes, it is getting silly how all
Paul B.
Take it from a Russian who drank (maybe a bit too much of) it with people who actually lived in similar parts! ;-) (they have some coal reserves nearby)
Paul B.
When you get down to it, angle measure in integers refers to radians. At 2 * pi radians all the way around the earth, there aren't *that* many intersections of integers.
But do people living at an intersection even know that. It doesn't look like anyone makes a point of it.
Know your pads. One time pad: good for cryptography. Two timing pad: where to take your mistress.
I took pictures of 19N69W.
I think it's also a chance for those of us who really don't get out as much and visit new places near home.
What's the big deal, isn't the world full of other less meaningful projects? (http://www.uglypeople.com/, for example).
http://www.confluence.org/confluence.php?lat=19&lo n=-69
I was measuring in radians. And I thought I was almost done. =(
Many contributors do this already. A few times they'll just submit all the individual images, and one of the coordinators will assemble them into a panorama.
I've posted panos from most of the confluences I've personally visited: http://www.confluence.org/visitor.php?id=157
Terje Mathisen
Scandinavian Coordinator The Degree Confluence Project
"almost all programming can be viewed as an exercise in caching"
- Take pictures of the sky above each point, so, you know, we can see what that looks like too.
- Take pictures of every different snowflake on Earth.
- Take a picture of every four-leaf clover on Earth.
- Take pictures of the lint in my navel, in 1 degree intervals.
John Kerry is a Joke!
That and 37n122w are the closest to Silicon Valley.
Bill Stewart
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Your next project will be to shake hands of everybody in the world in alphabetic order. Start with your own town as a pilot study.
Because I've been working on a similar project, doing every halfway confluence point, like 0.5N 0.5W and so on.
Hope there's noone doing the quarters as well.
No, it can't. Unfortunately wars and genocide are extremely expensive, and the guys running this project can't afford to conquer Sudan, let alone most of the Middle East. However, the most expensive part is manpower. Why don't you kill two birds with one stone by visiting a confluence over there and killing the bad guys while you're at it?
But look again. Even though there aren't many signs of Human settlement you can see the influence of Humans in most of the images in the temperate zones. Particularly in the number of open agricultural fields.
-- thinkyhead software and media
Dear Sir/Madam,
...
I am Prince Joe Eboh, the Chairman of the "Contact Award Committee", of the "Niger Delta Confluence Point Commission (NDCPC)", a subsidiary of the Nigerian National Geographic Corporation (NNGC).
I came to know of you in my private search for a reliable and reputable person to handle the confidential transaction, which involves the transfer of a HUGE NUMBER of CONFLUENCE POINTS to a foreign database requiring maximum confidence. THE PROPOSITION: a foreigner, Engineer James Akmed, a Confluence Point Merchant/Contractor with the Federal Government of Nigeria, until his suspension three years ago, executed with us at NNGC, and had a total contract executed of 28,000 CP's (TWENTY EIGHT MILLION,SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND CONFLUENCE POINTS) which flows in the Corporation's suspense database.
It is because of the allegation/petition leveled against him that he (Engr. James Akmed) who is a close friend to the late dictatorship General Sanni Abacha (formal Military President of Nigeria) who died in office in 1998 and during his tenure the country experienced various mismanagement and series of malpractices were carried out in collaboration with his foreign friends.
However, a Panel were set up to investigate the issue, who found him (Engr. James Akmed) guilty and the present Democratic President of Nigeria Chief Olusegun Obasanjo suspended him from EXPORTING any CONFLUENCE POINTS from Nigeria with immediate effect and was asked to leave the country. However, these CONFLUENCE POINTS are "UNCLAIMABLE" which was only known to my colleagues and I. Fortunately, all the Contract document including the "CONFLUENCE POINT COMPLETION CERTIFICATE" are with me but the need for a very trustworthy foreign business man/woman whom I would present as the Foreign beneficiary to CLAIM them.
Fortunately, all the CONFLUENCE POINTS including the " CONTRACT COMPLETION CERTIFICATE" are with me but the need for a very TRUSTWORTHY foreign business man/woman whom I would present as the Foreign beneficiary to CLAIM these CONFLUENCE POINTS. In order to achieve this development, some of my colleagues and I now seek your permission to have you stand as the FOREIGN CONTRACTOR so that the confluence points would be released to your database
My missile address is 2059'59"E 500'0"N, a short walk from the rock that marks the intersection.
There's an *odd* number of conflatulances?
Intersections are NOT confluences when each line continues on without merging, especially when they are square/normal to each other.
... maybe, ... outside of the oceans and poles and forests and deserts, ... or not.
But they probably understood that when they started, and maybe just figured that fabricating facts and distorting truth was an acceptable marketing practice for anybody if anybody.
That said, a big globe to which are glued photos from those locations would be interesting,
a family friendly project? What if one of the points is dead smack in the middle of Hedonism or some nude beach? Will those photos be posted?
..."the world" means USA and, maybe, three or four other countries. Or, maybe, this is another trick from GW to find Osama...
Seriously, it seems these people have never been in Los Andes, Sahara, or some other places, where nowadays it's probably possible to get there but somehow hard, and probably costly.
...governments and corporations ALREADY have EVERY stinking meter photographed
...Lat/Lon is TOTALLY fsking arbitrary
...CONFLUENCE is NOT descriptive of the INTERSECTION of coordinates
> would be a nice way of seeing what the world is like.
Especially for those of us who telecommute and only leave home to buy food once a week. We'll finally know that there really is a world out there instead of asking "World? What world?"
We drove across Kansas to get to Colorado a couple of years ago. We decided on a change of scenery on the return trip and took I-80 through Nebraska. It was a much prettier and more interesting drive, though we didn't pass any of the areas mentioned in the paragraph above -- the topography there was much like a sheet of paper. But as the highway follows the Platte River, where the water and therefore the farms and towns are, not to mention a few trees, it's a lot different than I-70 plowing straight across Kansas' arid western plains.
The whole world is interesting if you've truly an inquisitive mind. Even southeast Missouri and northeast Arkansas, which is ___flat___ and empty, has the most interesting geology buried beneath the aluvium, and there are signs on the surface if you only know what to look for.
I saw one like this somewhere in California. The closest they could get was to a road along the fenced area of the base, within several hundred meters of the confluence.
They ended up taking pictures in the direction of the confluence and posted comments saying it was X hundred meters behind the fence.
There's a confluence in Germany that's in some farmer's back yard. The people taking the pictures explained what they were doing, and the farmer was totally cool with it. He had no idea there was such a spot near him. The people taking the pictures said he seemed to think that they were a bit eccentric, but amusing in a way.
I noticed that there are a lot of visited confluences in the middle of the desert in Saudi Arabia. It turns out they are all taken by a soldier in the U.S. army station there, who goes on camping expeditions with his buddies in the desert.
There's also some pretty remote ones in Siberia taken by a Russian guy, who I think works for some oil or gas company.
It's interesting to read the comments about how someone got to these remote spots.
ah yes, I meant "whom", not "which", my fault.
These are the five confluences I visited in Australia when I was biking around the continent. You'll have to look at the lunky.com site to find the girl pictures..
Here is my contribution, all the confluences between 60 and 90 N and 60 and 90 S.
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Whew! That was a lot of effort. Damn dust spec on the lens.
InfoSec that matters, when it counts.
The project is over 8 years old -- it may be a bit late to "wake up the next morning and sober up"...
And yes, this means that the Degree Confluence Project (February 1996) is older than Slashdot (September 1997)... :)
Eric Lincoln
Degree Confluence Project
Here in Alabamastan (likely the rest of the South East), you'd think that each picture should contain 2-3 of any of the following: On Land: Walmart Winn-Dixie Drunk Redneck Deer Hunter (all seasons) House Trailers as descibed by Jeff Foxworthy Farm Animals Empty Beer Cans Interstate or Highway: Farm Animals Drunk Redneck More Potholes than road Speed Trap On Water: Bass boat Inner-tube rider with beer Floating Beer Cans Both: Confederate Flag Some Moron with walking around a field with his Battery operated alarm clock saying: "Hey, I'm at 12 and 00!
If you're from the South East and the above offended you, then lighten up.
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Western European capitals and observatories have established what we conventionally use as longitudinal merdians.
But I have to wonder if there aren't any natural meridians that would be less politically or culturally oriended.
For example, the peak of Everest/Chomolungma, the center of mass of the land masses, or even an extra-terrestrial marker in star constellations at a specific time?
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