Sun will throw all its muscle behind it's Java Desktop to deliver a polished, cohisive system. Linux will continue to be pulled in 100 directions at once.
Is Linux is the Democratic Party of operating systems? Always there but ever so slightly missing the majority market share?
Why can't they stay in a state of equilibrium goading each other to improve?
Would Sun have come up with things like DTrace and ZFS without being goaded by Linux? The same will happen between FireFox and IE, I think. The result is that everyone wins.
They'd be in trouble for the same things that got IBM a lawsuit and started Groklaw, leaking trade secrets.
I'd hope Sun's team of lawyers are smart enough to figure it out. With so many executives spouting off open-source this and that, the lawyers would have been all over them by now.
Until, I've got the open-source code in my hands, I really don't want to hear more about open source Solaris.
Sun released Solaris 8 as source code a while back. It required the Sun compiler, and it didn't include certain lawyer-encumbered things, like some graphics drivers. So, they have been really close to being able to fully open-source it for a number of years, now, and are probably doing what they need to do to clear up legal loose ends.
ia64 and AMD64/x86-64 might happen but as far as I know don't yet exist.
Solaris is available on the Opteron, but I think the Itanic port either got shelved or won't be made public. Schwartz even mentioned Solaris on POWER on his blog, but I'm not sure what to make of that.
"Sun? Isn't that the company that used to make servers, then imploded and got rid of all their R&D?
Only Sun's stock price imploded after the bubble bursted. Also, they spent over $400 million on R&D last quarter, which is not "got rid of all their R&D".
And we can't blame them, either. Time is valuable, and change takes time. This is why change is slow. Real people enjoy other people's company, and they like to do things other than dicking around with their computer. Once the computer is set up and useful, why mess with it further? It is actually a painful detriment to society that Microsoft's products and most other software are such shit (no amount of emphasis is enough), requiring that people keep dicking around with their computers instead of doing things they enjoy. To that end, computers just plain suck. I can understand why people don't want to deal with them any more than absolutely necessary. It'll be a long time before computers mature enough that they are like older TVs (just plug it in and watch...my TVs have gone backwards since then).
From what I've gathered online they rely on an undocumented interface in Windows that was broken by SP2.
A very good reason to write software for an open-source operating system or at least one with genuine open standards. If Windows were more open, perhaps your LAN card manufacturer could provide updates rather than do nothing (I bet their developers are stuck trying to figure out another loophole in Windows).
I recall seeing a number of reviews that said JDS had a few areas that needed attention but that it was generally okay. There is also quite a bit of buzz about JDS gaining attention in Asia.
No, I just have an opinion that Solaris 10 is a big release, and the stock started rising in anticipation of Nov. 15 (the quartery product release date).
Please, defend that statement in light of the positive reviews.
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I'm tired of the bullshit.
Bullshit? Sun's stock has steadily gone up over 60% since August, all in anticipation of Solaris 10, Niagara, fighting off losers like Kodak, etc. Sun is going through another one of its re-invention cycles, and will have massively-multi-threaded systems in the next two years with Solaris 10, complete with super-fast TCP/IP and through-and-through checksums on ZFS (among other things).
CSI is a show for entertainment purposes, and they take huge liberties with scientific accuracy. Overall, they are not terrible shows (except, perhaps, Miami--that show is the runt of the bunch), but everytime I see a perfect image magically taken from some fuzzy night-time low-res reflected image in seconds, I cringe.
Ten to fifteen years ago, there was usually some work involved, but the average was less, and it was spread out.
Whenever I read the occasional flamewar about the GNU autoconf/automake/libtool suite, some people will claim that portability ten to fifteen years ago was awful and the these tools are a god-send, even though my own experience differs. I still don't understand the modern need for these tools, when a solid POSIX makefile and well-conceived header files are easier to get working on various platforms.
The pessimistic cynic in me says that any group of people smart enough and motivated enough to rig an election would probably also be smart enough and motivated enough to make sure the post-election statistical analysis would be unfruitful.
There's tons of competition out there, and much of what's sold at Best Buy, especially electronics, is second-rate. Shop around, search the web, read what other people say about a product, and don't shop on impulse. Avoid regrettable purchases, save money without Best Buy's dubious rebates, and be happier with less under-used junk cluttering closets.
Frameworks provide a way to save time in development and maintenance of medium-to-large projects...
IMO, s/medium-to-large/large.
Frameworks are a dime a dozen and they come and go by the dozens every day, so only very large projects that can commit to a framework, maintain it, and train their employees in it should actually use it. Otherwise, the employees will just sit like a deer-in-the-headlights and use the framework in such a half-ass manner that it would have been better to just use mod_perl.
What distinguishes HP from eMachines on the shelves of Best Buy? Since they are both generally crap, they make up for it with neat-looking plastic on the front, putting RCA jacks in the floppy bay of some models, and putting meaningless words like "accelerated", "professional", "educational", and "multimedia" here and there. Throw in a free crap inkjet printer somewhere, and the marks march right on out of the store with a new found credit card balance. Brownie points to the salesman that gets them to buy a network hub, even though they have only one computer.
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Sun will throw all its muscle behind it's Java Desktop to deliver a polished, cohisive system. Linux will continue to be pulled in 100 directions at once.
Is Linux is the Democratic Party of operating systems? Always there but ever so slightly missing the majority market share?
Why can't they stay in a state of equilibrium goading each other to improve?
Would Sun have come up with things like DTrace and ZFS without being goaded by Linux? The same will happen between FireFox and IE, I think. The result is that everyone wins.
They'd be in trouble for the same things that got IBM a lawsuit and started Groklaw, leaking trade secrets.
I'd hope Sun's team of lawyers are smart enough to figure it out. With so many executives spouting off open-source this and that, the lawyers would have been all over them by now.
Until, I've got the open-source code in my hands, I really don't want to hear more about open source Solaris.
Sun released Solaris 8 as source code a while back. It required the Sun compiler, and it didn't include certain lawyer-encumbered things, like some graphics drivers. So, they have been really close to being able to fully open-source it for a number of years, now, and are probably doing what they need to do to clear up legal loose ends.
ia64 and AMD64/x86-64 might happen but as far as I know don't yet exist.
Solaris is available on the Opteron, but I think the Itanic port either got shelved or won't be made public. Schwartz even mentioned Solaris on POWER on his blog, but I'm not sure what to make of that.
Solaris, well is there even a nvidia/ 3D hardware driver for it?
Given that Sun's new Opteron-based workstations use NVIDIA graphics cards, I'd think so.
"Sun? Isn't that the company that used to make servers, then imploded and got rid of all their R&D?
Only Sun's stock price imploded after the bubble bursted. Also, they spent over $400 million on R&D last quarter, which is not "got rid of all their R&D".
Just how would MS "forcefully take ownership"?
with super-cute super-deadly attack kittens
I don't want to learn...
And we can't blame them, either. Time is valuable, and change takes time. This is why change is slow. Real people enjoy other people's company, and they like to do things other than dicking around with their computer. Once the computer is set up and useful, why mess with it further? It is actually a painful detriment to society that Microsoft's products and most other software are such shit (no amount of emphasis is enough), requiring that people keep dicking around with their computers instead of doing things they enjoy. To that end, computers just plain suck. I can understand why people don't want to deal with them any more than absolutely necessary. It'll be a long time before computers mature enough that they are like older TVs (just plug it in and watch...my TVs have gone backwards since then).
From what I've gathered online they rely on an undocumented interface in Windows that was broken by SP2.
A very good reason to write software for an open-source operating system or at least one with genuine open standards. If Windows were more open, perhaps your LAN card manufacturer could provide updates rather than do nothing (I bet their developers are stuck trying to figure out another loophole in Windows).
I recall seeing a number of reviews that said JDS had a few areas that needed attention but that it was generally okay. There is also quite a bit of buzz about JDS gaining attention in Asia.
Do you work for Sun Marketing ?
No, I just have an opinion that Solaris 10 is a big release, and the stock started rising in anticipation of Nov. 15 (the quartery product release date).
...it's too bad that Sun is using their hokey N-M threading model instead.
At least they are managing very efficient scaling with the number of CPUs (this requires both good hardware and kernel engineering).
JDS sucks...
Please, defend that statement in light of the positive reviews.
I'm tired of the bullshit.
Bullshit? Sun's stock has steadily gone up over 60% since August, all in anticipation of Solaris 10, Niagara, fighting off losers like Kodak, etc. Sun is going through another one of its re-invention cycles, and will have massively-multi-threaded systems in the next two years with Solaris 10, complete with super-fast TCP/IP and through-and-through checksums on ZFS (among other things).
We're all aware of the hole-ridden arguments that Sun executives Scott McNealy and Jonathan Schwartz use to attack Linux.
Sun is not anti-Linux, Sun sells Linux, Sun will even sell you a full rack of x86 servers all running Linux. Get over it, Slashdot!
CSI is a show for entertainment purposes, and they take huge liberties with scientific accuracy. Overall, they are not terrible shows (except, perhaps, Miami--that show is the runt of the bunch), but everytime I see a perfect image magically taken from some fuzzy night-time low-res reflected image in seconds, I cringe.
Ten to fifteen years ago, there was usually some work involved, but the average was less, and it was spread out.
Whenever I read the occasional flamewar about the GNU autoconf/automake/libtool suite, some people will claim that portability ten to fifteen years ago was awful and the these tools are a god-send, even though my own experience differs. I still don't understand the modern need for these tools, when a solid POSIX makefile and well-conceived header files are easier to get working on various platforms.
The pessimistic cynic in me says that any group of people smart enough and motivated enough to rig an election would probably also be smart enough and motivated enough to make sure the post-election statistical analysis would be unfruitful.
There's tons of competition out there, and much of what's sold at Best Buy, especially electronics, is second-rate. Shop around, search the web, read what other people say about a product, and don't shop on impulse. Avoid regrettable purchases, save money without Best Buy's dubious rebates, and be happier with less under-used junk cluttering closets.
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oxymoron.
Frameworks provide a way to save time in development and maintenance of medium-to-large projects...
IMO, s/medium-to-large/large.
Frameworks are a dime a dozen and they come and go by the dozens every day, so only very large projects that can commit to a framework, maintain it, and train their employees in it should actually use it. Otherwise, the employees will just sit like a deer-in-the-headlights and use the framework in such a half-ass manner that it would have been better to just use mod_perl.
STOP ACTING LIKE THE GUY ACROSS THE DIVIDE IS AN IDIOT
But, like, this is for-real acting, not some made-up stuff.
Don't forget Sun Microsystems claims to be the largest Opteron vendor by volume, right now.
Where's the innovation?
Marketing and price.
What distinguishes HP from eMachines on the shelves of Best Buy? Since they are both generally crap, they make up for it with neat-looking plastic on the front, putting RCA jacks in the floppy bay of some models, and putting meaningless words like "accelerated", "professional", "educational", and "multimedia" here and there. Throw in a free crap inkjet printer somewhere, and the marks march right on out of the store with a new found credit card balance. Brownie points to the salesman that gets them to buy a network hub, even though they have only one computer.