Thanks for the explanation. I don't really see why making web development more like desktop development is a problem -- having event-driven web pages and persisting state between posts, all in an encapsulated OO-style, is actually really handy. But I guess we can agree to disagree.:)
By the way, if you hate ASP.NET you are going to loathe Avalon. It is basically WebForms with presentation markup in XML files (like an.aspx), and then with the "code-behind" file for wiring up events. It is basically ASP.NET but with a proprietary markup language, instead of built around HTML/XHTML.
Not sure how this got to +5 without one "troll" mod... I respect your opinion, but surely to be modded "insightful" the post should at least include some reasons for asp.net being a "pile". Sorry, I'll stop complaining about mods now, not your fault:)
ASP.NET is not perfect, but it can do some neat things. Initialise controls and layout your presentation in X/HTML and ASPX tags, then control them via code. What so hard about that? It's fine to prefer other technologies, but I don't think ASP.NET qualifies as a "pile". The original ASP, now there you've got a case!
Just to clarify, I am not trying to compare the two events. I am simply trying to show just how inadequate, and indeed callous, it can be to reduce the significance of a loss of lives to a simple "number of deaths". Any amounts of casualties can be a disaster - it is a question of the circumstances, the reprocussions, and the effects of the event.
4000 people seems like a lot to me. I am positive there have been disasters will a lot more deaths, and some with a lot less - I would still consider them disasters. (4 years ago in NY claimed around 3000). It also displaced 200,000 people according to the Wikipedia.
Besides the actual numbers, my point was that the grand-parent stating "there are no profound negative impacts to the surrounding population" is citing as facts one report's opinion. Maybe the scientifically correct way to say this is "current data seems to show no profound impacts on the surrounding population", but still acknowledge that the long terms effects could change this conclusion.
56 people are known to have died according to the UN. But they also estimate 4000 will ultimately die due to the event. There are also many disputes over the report - so maybe the UN report is another example of "bad science"?
I know you were just using an example to make a point, but it is fitting you mention that bad science is about "getting attention" by presenting interpretations as facts, and you just did the same thing! Does karma count as personal gain?;)
According to TFA, I should be interested in Call of Duty 2 because "The smoke looks stunning". Yeh, because that's the primary thing I'm after in a game. Sheesh.
I believe Monad/MSH is no longer even a part of the Longhorn release, so it is a bit unfair have everyone jump on it as a Windows Vista exploit. From Wikipedia:
MSH was originally slated to be shipped with Windows Vista, but has since assumed its own release schedule. Microsoft sources have confirmed MSH's first public release will most likely precede the release of Vista and be part of the next edition of Microsoft Exchange, due in the second half of 2006.
In my experience I have been able to uninstall from Win2K and reinstall a new version without wiping the user profile (bookmarks, settings etc.) I don't know about nightly builds etc, but the major releases seem fine.
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I got my auto-update notification in FireFox, ran the "wizard" to update, and am now posting from 1.0.2. Update completed before the/. story was posted! (/. is my normal update notifier) Nice work Mozilla!
I wasn't trying to imply HTTP was secure, I was simply saying that using HTTP is going to have the same vulnerabilities at that layer regardless of whether you are using.NET, Java, Python, or whatever.
I think CORBA and Web Services have different aims. Yes, both aim for remote code execution, but CORBA is best for interacting with stateful objects on a remote server, whereas Web Services is more useful for simple data retrieval (although there is obviously overlap here.) I guess it is a matter of the right tool for the right job.
I'm assuming you saying "Seriously" translates to "this is not a troll":)...
Web Services are a way of passing data from one application to another. Just like a normal web server will respond to an HTTP request with, say HTML data, a web service will respond to a request with some data described by an XML document (as specified by the service's WSDL).
The technology has been over-hyped, but can be useful as well (especially for connecting disparate systems - those apps you would normally connect via ports when they are only connected over the Internet.)
There's a lot of FUD flying around here at the moment... Check here for info on WS-Security.
All this talk about blocking ports and security problems seems fairly unfounded -- Indigo is simply a way of using Web Services for app-to-app communication, while taking advantage of the latest WS security mechanisms.
I can't see it being less secure than Java Web Service calls, or HTTP communication in general. Just my 2c.
When I played I always had the players do their own maps, so if they made a mistake and got lost, which is fairly conceivable if D&D was real life (should I have put a spoiler warning on that?) then that was part of the fun.
It's great seeing players about to make an escape from a good ambush, only to take a wrong turn and end up in a dead end... ah, good times:)
Re:Too bad it still doesn't fix the RAM problem
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Mine is at 37K with several tabs opened, 5 RSS feeds, heaps of bookmarks, and with a few extensions installed. This is less than IE opening to a blank page on my PC. Maybe you have a lot of extensions installed? I have never actually seen it higher than 40K (even with heaps of tabs open), but maybe I'm just lucky.
Note that on Windows, I believe the task manager only reports the maximum amount of memory used, not the current amount.
The exploit worked on my fully patched WinXP SP2 box, running EZ Firewall/Antivirus suite, and running as a non-admin user.
I think this exploit deserves a bit more attention than "serves clueless n00bs right". Although to be fair my default browser (FireFox) was unaffected;)
This is currently the law in Australia. Pharmas can only advertise direct to doctors. They can provide general information to the general population (such as information on arthritis, followed by a "See your doctor for information"), but even just publically mentioning a product name in relation to advertising can get them in lots of trouble.
Slashdot Mirror
https://www.google.com/accounts/ManageAccount
Down the left hand side there is a "Delete Personalized Search" link that should sort it for you!
Speaking of Wikipedia, you gotta love it! Updated already with the latest squid pics and info. Take that hard-copy encyclopaedias! :)
By the way, if you hate ASP.NET you are going to loathe Avalon. It is basically WebForms with presentation markup in XML files (like an .aspx), and then with the "code-behind" file for wiring up events. It is basically ASP.NET but with a proprietary markup language, instead of built around HTML/XHTML.
ASP.NET is not perfect, but it can do some neat things. Initialise controls and layout your presentation in X/HTML and ASPX tags, then control them via code. What so hard about that? It's fine to prefer other technologies, but I don't think ASP.NET qualifies as a "pile". The original ASP, now there you've got a case!
Just to clarify, I am not trying to compare the two events. I am simply trying to show just how inadequate, and indeed callous, it can be to reduce the significance of a loss of lives to a simple "number of deaths". Any amounts of casualties can be a disaster - it is a question of the circumstances, the reprocussions, and the effects of the event.
Besides the actual numbers, my point was that the grand-parent stating "there are no profound negative impacts to the surrounding population" is citing as facts one report's opinion. Maybe the scientifically correct way to say this is "current data seems to show no profound impacts on the surrounding population", but still acknowledge that the long terms effects could change this conclusion.
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I know you were just using an example to make a point, but it is fitting you mention that bad science is about "getting attention" by presenting interpretations as facts, and you just did the same thing! Does karma count as personal gain? ;)
According to TFA, I should be interested in Call of Duty 2 because "The smoke looks stunning". Yeh, because that's the primary thing I'm after in a game. Sheesh.
WinFS was in the early builds of Longhorn as well, and that's been dropped too. You'd have to ask MS as to their motivation.
As noted by The Register, the planet is not in a galaxy far, far away, but a mere 149 light-year jaunt through our own Milky Way.
Well his tenure was not without its ups and downs.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't remember ever requiring root access to change your desktop wallpaper.
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I got my auto-update notification in FireFox, ran the "wizard" to update, and am now posting from 1.0.2. Update completed before the /. story was posted! (/. is my normal update notifier) Nice work Mozilla!
I wasn't trying to imply HTTP was secure, I was simply saying that using HTTP is going to have the same vulnerabilities at that layer regardless of whether you are using .NET, Java, Python, or whatever.
I think CORBA and Web Services have different aims. Yes, both aim for remote code execution, but CORBA is best for interacting with stateful objects on a remote server, whereas Web Services is more useful for simple data retrieval (although there is obviously overlap here.) I guess it is a matter of the right tool for the right job.
Web Services are a way of passing data from one application to another. Just like a normal web server will respond to an HTTP request with, say HTML data, a web service will respond to a request with some data described by an XML document (as specified by the service's WSDL).
The technology has been over-hyped, but can be useful as well (especially for connecting disparate systems - those apps you would normally connect via ports when they are only connected over the Internet.)
No, it uses Web Services, and standardised security (WS-Security).
All this talk about blocking ports and security problems seems fairly unfounded -- Indigo is simply a way of using Web Services for app-to-app communication, while taking advantage of the latest WS security mechanisms.
I can't see it being less secure than Java Web Service calls, or HTTP communication in general. Just my 2c.
It's great seeing players about to make an escape from a good ambush, only to take a wrong turn and end up in a dead end... ah, good times :)
Errr... 37MB :$
Note that on Windows, I believe the task manager only reports the maximum amount of memory used, not the current amount.
I think this exploit deserves a bit more attention than "serves clueless n00bs right". Although to be fair my default browser (FireFox) was unaffected ;)
Seems like a good idea to me.