Nixon, a Republican president, signed of on creating the EPA. Yes the Republican party has changed a lot since then.
The party today would never endorse such government interference in the private sector and yet here we are, not China, with our relatively clean air and water.
God couldnt use the Big Bang to create the universe?
Quite a lot of Catholics and pretty much all Jesuits take a lot of the bible as metaphor. The big bang or evolution isnt incompatible to the faith for these people.
No, she was a moderate who only adopted more progressive policies after being pushed to the left by Sanders. Such a shift to one side or the other during the primaries is not at all indicative of a candidate's real priorities and is regularly done by politicians.
"So, we should just only have elites run the nation?"
You're putting words in my mouth. I only said idiots shouldn't be president.
"There are problems with democracy. The same reasons that the Senate exist is the same reason for the Electoral College in a different branch of government. Do you think the Senate is a good idea for a bicameral Congress?"
Empowering small states is only a small reason as to why the Senate exists (and yes I do disagree with that in that specific context). It's also there to provide two other things; to provide a body within congress that is less prone to rapid swings of opinion within the public with its elections being held every 6 years in a staggered fashion and to provide a body within congress that was not directly elected by the people as many of the founding fathers most certainly didnt trust the general public.
"It doesn't automatically mean good it just means he was an outsider and that anyone can become POTUS regardless of what established institutions want. That is a good thing. That is how you avoid civil war by ensuring the government accommodates the changing body politic of the nation."
Is it a good thing? Hitler was democratically elected too.
"Seriously, it sounds like you don't want a democracy yet rail on about popular vote and the people. What do you want?"
One or the other, this mixed bag shit has got to go.
It's funny though you think that your kicking Muslims out post so over the top that it shouldnt have been taken literally. There are posts on slashdot that amount to what you said all the time
Well for starters Cuba is a one party state, not a totalitarian dictatorship. They have elections there but most people wouldnt really call them free or fair. That's not terribly important though as I get your point, they're of a government type not known for its transparency.
With that said, I feel using the WHO numbers (which you seem to be casting doubt on in an annoying, round-about way) as evidence is perfectly appropriate for an internet discussion as one of the reasons for this global body to exist is to monitor global health levels. They're the experts on such things and their numbers are rarely called into question so since they feel confident enough to publish them, I feel comfortable enough to site them in a context such as this.
And really there is very little reason to doubt them. If WHO numbers were so easily fudged most of the worst ranked countries on that list would be ranked better due to government interference as most of them have governments that are as or less trustworthy than Cuba. Likewise, if Cuba (whose health care system is widely known around the world to be quite good) was really fudging their numbers to a major degree, people would notice as Cuba is not at all a closed off country like North Korea. It's in fact a fairly open country and a popular tourist destination for Canadians, Europeans, and even Americans who go via Mexico.
So in summary, if you want to play at being a skeptic that's fine. Just don't expect me to care unless you're able to furnish some sort of evidence as to why we should not trust the WHO's numbers here.
The flaw in your arguement is that the people working will have to be taxed so harshly. If half or more of the population is on UBI then that likely means much of the wealth, goods, service etc. is being generated autonomously by ai/robots.
You're full of crap when you complain about other people wanting others to be forced to pay tax because unless you're an anarchist, you believe the exact same thing.
The proper debate then is how much is reasonable and what the money should be spent on. You're "you're evil because you want taxes" is garbage because you want taxes too and there are quite likely people who dont like some of the stuff you want taxes for
Oh, a third world country has a shitty economy. How shocking!
The point is that they have an amazing healthcare system inspite of this. Sure, their other economic and government policies might suck but their healthcare system is really amazingly impressive for a country so poor.
So taxes = bad, huh? So you're an anarchist then? No? So then you do believe taxation is acceptable and the real debate is over how much should be taxed and what the money should be spent on.
Basically, you're full of crap when you complain about other people wanting others to be forced to pay tax because unless you're an anarchist, you believe the exact same thing.
Before I even got anywhere deep into your post I decided you need to learn how to use paragraphs. I'm not a Nazi on grammar or anything but massive, unorganized, blocks of text arent very readable. I would imagine anything you might have issue with in that block might be improved by revisiting a writing class.
Now, proper declarations first, I'm an American but I do enjoying vacationing in Europe and have so for some time. For starters, pork and alcohol are not in decline in Europe, I love both and both a very available. Second; you're scaremongering over swim classes? Oh, what a sacred institution to offend!
Personally I think it's quite noble that Europe is taking in a ton of refugees from a region experiencing a lot of turmoil. Here in America we used to do that for Europe (oh great, we have the mafia now!) but we've recently lost the taste for helping those who need help internationally and instead descended into the xenophobic fear that one out every 10,000 Muslim immigrant might commit a crime.
Nixon, a Republican president, signed of on creating the EPA. Yes the Republican party has changed a lot since then.
The party today would never endorse such government interference in the private sector and yet here we are, not China, with our relatively clean air and water.
God couldnt use the Big Bang to create the universe?
Quite a lot of Catholics and pretty much all Jesuits take a lot of the bible as metaphor. The big bang or evolution isnt incompatible to the faith for these people.
I'm not saying committing ground forces to the region again is a great idea but displacing Hezbollah certainly isnt a terrible one.
Or hey, maybe I should just call you names, you self absorbed, shithead.
The truth is utterly disgusting? What part of what Trudeau said was wrong?
No, she was a moderate who only adopted more progressive policies after being pushed to the left by Sanders. Such a shift to one side or the other during the primaries is not at all indicative of a candidate's real priorities and is regularly done by politicians.
I was referring to 60's and 70's Republicans who were about as conservative as today's Democrats.
"So, we should just only have elites run the nation?"
You're putting words in my mouth. I only said idiots shouldn't be president.
"There are problems with democracy. The same reasons that the Senate exist is the same reason for the Electoral College in a different branch of government. Do you think the Senate is a good idea for a bicameral Congress?"
Empowering small states is only a small reason as to why the Senate exists (and yes I do disagree with that in that specific context). It's also there to provide two other things; to provide a body within congress that is less prone to rapid swings of opinion within the public with its elections being held every 6 years in a staggered fashion and to provide a body within congress that was not directly elected by the people as many of the founding fathers most certainly didnt trust the general public.
"It doesn't automatically mean good it just means he was an outsider and that anyone can become POTUS regardless of what established institutions want. That is a good thing. That is how you avoid civil war by ensuring the government accommodates the changing body politic of the nation."
Is it a good thing? Hitler was democratically elected too.
"Seriously, it sounds like you don't want a democracy yet rail on about popular vote and the people. What do you want?"
One or the other, this mixed bag shit has got to go.
It's funny though you think that your kicking Muslims out post so over the top that it shouldnt have been taken literally. There are posts on slashdot that amount to what you said all the time
What the hell are you talking about?
Well for starters Cuba is a one party state, not a totalitarian dictatorship. They have elections there but most people wouldnt really call them free or fair. That's not terribly important though as I get your point, they're of a government type not known for its transparency.
With that said, I feel using the WHO numbers (which you seem to be casting doubt on in an annoying, round-about way) as evidence is perfectly appropriate for an internet discussion as one of the reasons for this global body to exist is to monitor global health levels. They're the experts on such things and their numbers are rarely called into question so since they feel confident enough to publish them, I feel comfortable enough to site them in a context such as this.
And really there is very little reason to doubt them. If WHO numbers were so easily fudged most of the worst ranked countries on that list would be ranked better due to government interference as most of them have governments that are as or less trustworthy than Cuba. Likewise, if Cuba (whose health care system is widely known around the world to be quite good) was really fudging their numbers to a major degree, people would notice as Cuba is not at all a closed off country like North Korea. It's in fact a fairly open country and a popular tourist destination for Canadians, Europeans, and even Americans who go via Mexico.
So in summary, if you want to play at being a skeptic that's fine. Just don't expect me to care unless you're able to furnish some sort of evidence as to why we should not trust the WHO's numbers here.
No idea, why dont you check?
How does WHO do for a source (basically the authorities on the subject)?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wik...
Their scores in most catagories are pretty good when you compare to how the US does and they spend waaaayyyy less money (that's shown here too).
The flaw in your arguement is that the people working will have to be taxed so harshly. If half or more of the population is on UBI then that likely means much of the wealth, goods, service etc. is being generated autonomously by ai/robots.
You're full of crap when you complain about other people wanting others to be forced to pay tax because unless you're an anarchist, you believe the exact same thing.
The proper debate then is how much is reasonable and what the money should be spent on. You're "you're evil because you want taxes" is garbage because you want taxes too and there are quite likely people who dont like some of the stuff you want taxes for
Oh, a third world country has a shitty economy. How shocking!
The point is that they have an amazing healthcare system inspite of this. Sure, their other economic and government policies might suck but their healthcare system is really amazingly impressive for a country so poor.
So because the USSR did it, it has to be bad? The also had schools and streets and trees. Are those bad too?
So taxes = bad, huh? So you're an anarchist then? No? So then you do believe taxation is acceptable and the real debate is over how much should be taxed and what the money should be spent on.
Basically, you're full of crap when you complain about other people wanting others to be forced to pay tax because unless you're an anarchist, you believe the exact same thing.
Before I even got anywhere deep into your post I decided you need to learn how to use paragraphs. I'm not a Nazi on grammar or anything but massive, unorganized, blocks of text arent very readable. I would imagine anything you might have issue with in that block might be improved by revisiting a writing class.
I've definitely heard that a few times.
Now, proper declarations first, I'm an American but I do enjoying vacationing in Europe and have so for some time. For starters, pork and alcohol are not in decline in Europe, I love both and both a very available. Second; you're scaremongering over swim classes? Oh, what a sacred institution to offend!
Personally I think it's quite noble that Europe is taking in a ton of refugees from a region experiencing a lot of turmoil. Here in America we used to do that for Europe (oh great, we have the mafia now!) but we've recently lost the taste for helping those who need help internationally and instead descended into the xenophobic fear that one out every 10,000 Muslim immigrant might commit a crime.
Evidence please. I'm sure the media reported on speculations as to those votes but I think you're lying overall.
I didn't realize a religion was an ethnicity.
Retard...
Wow, I didn't realize trying to displace Hezbollah was a bad thing. Thanks for enlightening me!
Shit, "your"
And many atheists do bad things too. You're lack of commitment to freedom of thought it terribly disappointing.