How much is Tesla implying that the customer is using the car wrong?
Are we really looking at Terms of Service about how you are going to use an automobile you purchased? I know this was a media test drive, but what's to stop Telsa from using their diagnostics to throw you under the bus for speeding if you complain about running out of juice in a remote location "if the customer had been operating the car properly it wouldn't have run out of charge."
Are Tesla owners getting a nanny that will monitor their driving habits and tsk tsk at them when less than optimal driving results and range happen?
I understand the car is very complex, but in the real world stuff happens and you can't assume the conditions or even the actions of the driver are going to be optimal.
It's well known that Admiral Ozzel came out of hyperpsace too close to the system and cost them the element of surprise. He's as clumsy as he is stupid....
Until alternative energy sources are actually cheaper than what we are using today, 'investing' in them will only add an additional burden that will need to be paid by taxpayers, more debt, or customers. There is no such thing as a free lunch.
The net effect of alternative energy sources that are more expensive to implement and a drain on the economy.
This is a form of thinking thats called basic math...
The green energy revolution occurs when the cost of alternative energy sources (or the electric car) are the same or cheaper than our current energy sources. I believe electric cars will eventually become affordable and directly comparable to gas powered cars, but as the prime example of my case the federal government has recently attached thousands of taxpayer dollars as 'incentive' to get people to buy electric vehicles. Again a net economic loss.
This '12 hottest years on record' thing kinda bothers me.
We know that the average temperature of the Earth is increasing and has been increasing for a few decades. So the long term trend is higher temperatures every decade as we move forward.
With that in mind it would only be a shock to have recent years NOT be in the group of hottest years. Because they are all near the end of a line with a generally increasing slope.
Its merely a truism of warming. It the past decade weren't getting warmer and 12 of the last 15 years were not among the hottest, we would in fact have no global warming issue.
It doesn't prove anything except that on an increasing trend line the highest values are the more recent ones....
There is no more socialist form of power in the USA than nuclear.
Which is why it baffles me that there isn't a move towards it. The government should be supporting building lots of new nuclear plants. It is the most comprehensive thing we can do right now to reduce carbon emissions. When environmentalists/greens fight nuclear power it just pisses me off.
What if you have a multi user system? They can try various passwords against the same account from many many sessions and not have to worry at all about your retry timeouts.
Per wikapedia, Venus has vast amounts of carbon dioxide, not methane. Its CO2 is measured at over 90%, not in the parts per million we use here.
Earth and Venus are not comparable in terms of atmosphere, they wouldn't even ever be comparable even if the supply of fossil fuels were endless and we burned them at an even faster rate then we do now, we'd still never get to Venus levels.
We're also not sure how long methane lasts in the atmosphere and what its cycle is, heck we're still learning more about the carbon cycle too.
My point is comparing our future atmosphere to Venus makes no sense on timescales that are smaller than millions of years. It would be on the order of time it took originally to turn our atmosphere into one comprised of nearly 20% oxygen.
I second that. Why, why, why do the people who build the mobile sites assume, 'well they clicked on this link, but I'm sure they'll be fine with the home page, or this other unrelated page'
That is awful, it renders the concept of a hyperlink, the bedrock of the web, unpredictable for mobile sites. (i.e. the user's thinking they will actually get linked to what I want or will something else completely pop up).
Yep, its a cardinal sin of mobile sites. This meme needs to get some traction out there.
Dang. Your post was interesting right up until that reference to Venus.
Warming is an issue and a hard problem we need to solve. But why do people always try to go straight for a disaster movie scenario ( OMG the Earth is turning into Venus!!)? That's not what's happening, what's happening is a gradual warming an increasing affects of that warming are impacting the ecosystem. But a fast conversion of the Earth's atmosphere into one like Venus is pure sensationalist hyperbole.
This isn't about what Obama's political opponents have done, its about his supporters being hypocrites.
If Bush were president right now utilizing drones in the SAME EXACT MANNER as Obama, political opponents of Bush would be staging demonstrations in Washington with millions of people.
Thats great. What are we going to do when we elect and evil genius President and he gets to use all these wonderful new policies? Because, he'll be really smart, so....
Oh and your example is not directly related to any of the attacks that have been carried out so far. Its just a red herring.
This issue has really far less to do with whether the targets are traitors or not and more to do with who is allowed to determine which Americans are and which Americans aren't traitors....
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What scares me about this is:
How much is Tesla implying that the customer is using the car wrong?
Are we really looking at Terms of Service about how you are going to use an automobile you purchased? I know this was a media test drive, but what's to stop Telsa from using their diagnostics to throw you under the bus for speeding if you complain about running out of juice in a remote location "if the customer had been operating the car properly it wouldn't have run out of charge."
Are Tesla owners getting a nanny that will monitor their driving habits and tsk tsk at them when less than optimal driving results and range happen?
I understand the car is very complex, but in the real world stuff happens and you can't assume the conditions or even the actions of the driver are going to be optimal.
It's well known that Admiral Ozzel came out of hyperpsace too close to the system and cost them the element of surprise. He's as clumsy as he is stupid....
Until alternative energy sources are actually cheaper than what we are using today, 'investing' in them will only add an additional burden that will need to be paid by taxpayers, more debt, or customers. There is no such thing as a free lunch.
The net effect of alternative energy sources that are more expensive to implement and a drain on the economy.
This is a form of thinking thats called basic math...
The green energy revolution occurs when the cost of alternative energy sources (or the electric car) are the same or cheaper than our current energy sources. I believe electric cars will eventually become affordable and directly comparable to gas powered cars, but as the prime example of my case the federal government has recently attached thousands of taxpayer dollars as 'incentive' to get people to buy electric vehicles. Again a net economic loss.
At least SyFy (sigh) is making robots fight in a couple of weeks. There's more of an element of sci-fi to that than there is with Wrasslin'.
Wait, what?
So we should let Obama run things totally unopposed, like a king or dictator?
BUT, if we don't do that we're somehow hypocrites about democracy and freedom.
You don't have a fucking clue what democracy and freedom really mean.
You go ahead and worship Mr. Obama, as for me I want to see him actually earn any of his goals or achievements via debate and compromise.
Sure democracy is messy and cumbersome, but I'll take that over the efficiency of being told what to do by a 'Dear Leader' any day.
This '12 hottest years on record' thing kinda bothers me.
We know that the average temperature of the Earth is increasing and has been increasing for a few decades. So the long term trend is higher temperatures every decade as we move forward.
With that in mind it would only be a shock to have recent years NOT be in the group of hottest years. Because they are all near the end of a line with a generally increasing slope.
Its merely a truism of warming. It the past decade weren't getting warmer and 12 of the last 15 years were not among the hottest, we would in fact have no global warming issue.
It doesn't prove anything except that on an increasing trend line the highest values are the more recent ones....
1) Fix the Economy
or
2) Fix Global Warming
please choose one......
I could see Obama doing that. Then he could just drone them all as soon as they are released.
There is no more socialist form of power in the USA than nuclear.
Which is why it baffles me that there isn't a move towards it. The government should be supporting building lots of new nuclear plants. It is the most comprehensive thing we can do right now to reduce carbon emissions. When environmentalists/greens fight nuclear power it just pisses me off.
What if you have a multi user system? They can try various passwords against the same account from many many sessions and not have to worry at all about your retry timeouts.
Per wikapedia, Venus has vast amounts of carbon dioxide, not methane. Its CO2 is measured at over 90%, not in the parts per million we use here.
Earth and Venus are not comparable in terms of atmosphere, they wouldn't even ever be comparable even if the supply of fossil fuels were endless and we burned them at an even faster rate then we do now, we'd still never get to Venus levels.
We're also not sure how long methane lasts in the atmosphere and what its cycle is, heck we're still learning more about the carbon cycle too.
My point is comparing our future atmosphere to Venus makes no sense on timescales that are smaller than millions of years. It would be on the order of time it took originally to turn our atmosphere into one comprised of nearly 20% oxygen.
I am impressed to be hearing from the developers in this thread.
Thanks.
You've got it right vis-a-vis signal to noise.
Even though I feel old around here, sometimes its nice to be an old-timer.
That's a scary thought. I place some value on my 5 digit /. id , I'd be pissed if they took it away.
I second that. Why, why, why do the people who build the mobile sites assume, 'well they clicked on this link, but I'm sure they'll be fine with the home page, or this other unrelated page'
That is awful, it renders the concept of a hyperlink, the bedrock of the web, unpredictable for mobile sites. (i.e. the user's thinking they will actually get linked to what I want or will something else completely pop up).
Yep, its a cardinal sin of mobile sites. This meme needs to get some traction out there.
Wow. Thank you for posting a comment that so thoroughly confirms the point I was making.
Dang. Your post was interesting right up until that reference to Venus.
Warming is an issue and a hard problem we need to solve. But why do people always try to go straight for a disaster movie scenario ( OMG the Earth is turning into Venus!!)? That's not what's happening, what's happening is a gradual warming an increasing affects of that warming are impacting the ecosystem. But a fast conversion of the Earth's atmosphere into one like Venus is pure sensationalist hyperbole.
No, the anti-war crowd party is being silent because THEIR guy is in power...
This isn't about what Obama's political opponents have done, its about his supporters being hypocrites.
If Bush were president right now utilizing drones in the SAME EXACT MANNER as Obama, political opponents of Bush would be staging demonstrations in Washington with millions of people.
So being smarter makes it ok??
Thats great. What are we going to do when we elect and evil genius President and he gets to use all these wonderful new policies? Because, he'll be really smart, so....
Oh and your example is not directly related to any of the attacks that have been carried out so far. Its just a red herring.
This issue has really far less to do with whether the targets are traitors or not and more to do with who is allowed to determine which Americans are and which Americans aren't traitors....
I know with a spell checker your gauranteed to spell words correctly!
Yep. It makes you think - Why do so many industries way of operating today look like organized crime?
But if people were still listening to radio instead of streaming, the 1000000 plays would net the artist exactly $0.
The law of supply and demand is not out of sync with physics.