Thats a little unfair. In my experience this question and discussion comes up with in increased frequency at many of the tek meetups and forums I participate in. There was a massive shift to OSX in the time scales discussed, to the point where almost all the developers and designers I personally know where using OSX. It even became common for the occasional non apple hardware laptop to be singled out and form a basis for discussion itself!!
Recently the tide does indeed seem to be shifting once more, and many who tried linux desktop before are tempted into trying once more. The recent high profile disparing positions by people such as Linus https://plus.google.com/+LinusTorvalds/posts/UkoAaLDpF4i and (lesser) Miguel de Icaza http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2013/Mar-05.html make this a valid subject for discussion I believe.
I wonder out loud if its illegal to use code rather than the stated 'view source' 'method:) here i grab the whole fornt page and pop it into a text box... in one line of code:)
http://www.freesome.com/node/233
I wonder who would be infringing in this case - me for writing the code... oyu for viewing my blog - or maybe my host!!
wowsers
Yeah it seems useable. But Google outdone? Day after day on slashdot theres posts on things such as Gmail, google maps, student open source sponsership, AJAX, et al... and from yahoo we get... a slider.
Regarding the follow up question about what to teach young people today, I would suggest that maybe Flash from Macromedia could be the perfect choice. It's a peculiar tool, as its fundamentally divided into design/animation and coding sections. However both sections are failr proficient at what they aim to achieve.
The nice thing about the Actionscript language, in terms of learning,is its immediate visual responsiveness. I used to love typing a line in Basic, hitting run, and watching what happens, without tedious compile times. Actionscript provides this, as well the thrill of simply manipulating potentially dazzling vector graphics with a single command...
The language itself has evolved quite considerably form a few years back, and is now quite nicely object oriented (based on ECMA Scrit ala JavaScript), so paves the way for introductions to higher languages, its syntax is also more similar to C/Java than Basic/Pascal, saving that awkward jump later on.
Of course one great bonus that any creations can be immediately put up on the Web, and viewed with a browser, this alone makes it, in my view, extremely interesting as a teaching tool.
Very very true. Ive managed to get everyone in my company using firefox on a daily basis, and in fact IE is looked on now with fear and loathing, due to its *security* features. However, I can not get them to switch to Thunderbird, even though Outlook represents a similar security risk. Most people at a user level don't make the groupware/email distinction, and there is a good argument they *should* not have to. Im paying close attention to the sunbird development thoug, and hopefuly this will eventualy integrate perfectly, and provide the same level of functionality as outlook. Im still waiting though, and its a real shame, as many people *do* really want to switch.
It works a treat on Linux, and no, there seems to be no spyware. With SkypeOut, there does seem to be a much clearer revenue stream for Skype, which rather negates the need for such backdoor revenue as spyware. It was acompletely different story with Kazza, how else do you make money from an essentially illegal service...?
Ive taken this as a good opportunity to mail all my contacts who I know still use IE at the instance of corporate IT departments, asking them to suggest to their departments the immediate ability to install an alternative such as Firefox. Im sure many others here do something similar, but for any one who has not its situations like this which unfortunately can help us to promote a safer alternative browsing platform for all of us.
The lack of scripting in Tiny SVG Does acytualy seem like a bit of a problem, sure you can create interactivity (despite what Macromeda say), but an one developing in flash will know the problems that approach leads to. Actionscript (flash scripting) has nwo evolved into a very powerful soltion, which allows me to work side by side with designers, while seperating code from design.
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Thats a little unfair. In my experience this question and discussion comes up with in increased frequency at many of the tek meetups and forums I participate in. There was a massive shift to OSX in the time scales discussed, to the point where almost all the developers and designers I personally know where using OSX. It even became common for the occasional non apple hardware laptop to be singled out and form a basis for discussion itself!! Recently the tide does indeed seem to be shifting once more, and many who tried linux desktop before are tempted into trying once more. The recent high profile disparing positions by people such as Linus https://plus.google.com/+LinusTorvalds/posts/UkoAaLDpF4i and (lesser) Miguel de Icaza http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2013/Mar-05.html make this a valid subject for discussion I believe.
thanks for the links. The article stunk of troll.
Agreed The PC - Pro article is pure tabloid scaremongering. The closest published source i can find on bit defender site is this generic pdf http://www.bitdefender.com/media/materials/e-guides/uk/Protecting_Children_Online_Guide.pdf
I wonder out loud if its illegal to use code rather than the stated 'view source' 'method :) here i grab the whole fornt page and pop it into a text box... in one line of code :)
http://www.freesome.com/node/233
I wonder who would be infringing in this case - me for writing the code... oyu for viewing my blog - or maybe my host!!
wowsers
Does anybody know where this complaint has originated from - the Law suite says People of New York Vs Dell. IS there a background link anywhere?
Yeah it seems useable. But Google outdone? Day after day on slashdot theres posts on things such as Gmail, google maps, student open source sponsership, AJAX, et al... and from yahoo we get... a slider.
Regarding the follow up question about what to teach young people today, I would suggest that maybe Flash from Macromedia could be the perfect choice. It's a peculiar tool, as its fundamentally divided into design/animation and coding sections. However both sections are failr proficient at what they aim to achieve. The nice thing about the Actionscript language, in terms of learning,is its immediate visual responsiveness. I used to love typing a line in Basic, hitting run, and watching what happens, without tedious compile times. Actionscript provides this, as well the thrill of simply manipulating potentially dazzling vector graphics with a single command... The language itself has evolved quite considerably form a few years back, and is now quite nicely object oriented (based on ECMA Scrit ala JavaScript), so paves the way for introductions to higher languages, its syntax is also more similar to C/Java than Basic/Pascal, saving that awkward jump later on. Of course one great bonus that any creations can be immediately put up on the Web, and viewed with a browser, this alone makes it, in my view, extremely interesting as a teaching tool.
Very very true. Ive managed to get everyone in my company using firefox on a daily basis, and in fact IE is looked on now with fear and loathing, due to its *security* features. However, I can not get them to switch to Thunderbird, even though Outlook represents a similar security risk. Most people at a user level don't make the groupware/email distinction, and there is a good argument they *should* not have to. Im paying close attention to the sunbird development thoug, and hopefuly this will eventualy integrate perfectly, and provide the same level of functionality as outlook. Im still waiting though, and its a real shame, as many people *do* really want to switch.
It works a treat on Linux, and no, there seems to be no spyware. With SkypeOut, there does seem to be a much clearer revenue stream for Skype, which rather negates the need for such backdoor revenue as spyware. It was acompletely different story with Kazza, how else do you make money from an essentially illegal service...?
Ive taken this as a good opportunity to mail all my contacts who I know still use IE at the instance of corporate IT departments, asking them to suggest to their departments the immediate ability to install an alternative such as Firefox. Im sure many others here do something similar, but for any one who has not its situations like this which unfortunately can help us to promote a safer alternative browsing platform for all of us.
The lack of scripting in Tiny SVG Does acytualy seem like a bit of a problem, sure you can create interactivity (despite what Macromeda say), but an one developing in flash will know the problems that approach leads to. Actionscript (flash scripting) has nwo evolved into a very powerful soltion, which allows me to work side by side with designers, while seperating code from design.
Stuff that matters..?