One upon a year, 624khz was far more than what we had, and VGA was state of the art.
Lets not forget 256mb smart cards come in Cereal Packets nowwadays.
So if your VGA screen is small, you have new ways of interacting, multi modal - voice recognition from mobile phone technology (voice dial) for small vocabulary recognition, shortcut buttons, hand writing recog, and stylus input.
Not to mention new inputs like Dasher. Lets not get appl eand pairs. Opie or GPE and the familar projects and other, they are real linux - and no you don't want an OS formatted for 4:3 19" screen on your 16:9 pocket screen. (google Dasher - it runs on my Axim rather well.)
So you argue against familiar being a 'full' linux, not just a different flavour, but you also state you cannot just push darwin onto a PDA.
So if you moddified it to work on a PDA, you would look at in discust, say it isn't a 'real' darwin, and if it was you wouldn't want it....
What is your point? Sorry but a lot of work is going on in this field (lots of happy hardware hacking) and I am waiting impatiently for a rebootable, power managed debianesuq distro to run on my axim - give them encouragement not misdirectd misdirection.
Xvid is way more normal that QuickTime(TM) and I could show you some gaussian curves that will show you what normal is.
QT is more widespread than Xvid, but some viral video type like this would channel lots of traffic Xvids way, and in the world of Xwindows, Xbox, windowsXp, and XXX, Xvid is happly at home.
I wonder what gets more P2P searches - divX or Xvid?
They don't want you just swapping out the OS, they want you to keep on a treadmill of new device new OS, this is reciprocal. If they can tie thier OS into the handheld like that, when a new model comes out, you wont wanna be paying a small upgrade, you want to buy a whole new OS lock stock in the OEM pricing.
My Dell 624mhz will love a nice linux aimed at it, let me go check the familiar project right now!
Linux on handhelds - the future of computing!
(imagine a WiFi'd beowulf of those!:-) or a zombified network of bluetoothed PDAs that seamlessly pop on and off your CPU grid, and you harness all those lovely hertz of power.
All in the name of Doom3 on your PDA!
Played Doom3 demo last night. Went through the airlock, all hell broke loose, went back through airlock, got bored, switched it off. Uninstalling it tonight (after I play it once more on mad detail to see how slow it is.)
Saved me some money that demo did.
Looking forward to ActionDoom3!!!!!!!! ZOMG cripes that would rock!
I see your MP5, and raise you a M4 with silencer, and a pair of slippers.
Kramer: Nobody carries wallets anymore. I mean, they went out with powdered wigs. Yeah, see here's what you need. Just a couple of cards and your bankroll.
Smokers, you either love them, or you want to pour chlorine down thier epiglottal.
Smoking is so complex.
Child smoking is a 6 billion dollar industry in the US alone. You fund that industry, and perpetuate it.
People start smoking today due to peer pressure, wanting to fit it. I defy anyone who will deny it, and say, I was the original smoker - people at college wanted to be like me.
People continue smoking because of: Addiction. They either admit that, or say they like to smoke (which in essence is true, it is enjoyable because thier body feels better). However, they mainly don't think about it (habitual).
If they really think about it, they would preffer if they never started.
Smokers have lower immune systems and cost health care lots of money. Tabacco taxes do feed back into that healthcare, but a lot of research (which is limited folks, only a certain number of bright people on this planet) is taken to these areas, as it is profitable.
Now, aside from all that. Public smoking. People think they have a right. The worst thing is if someone sits next to me who is smoking, I am past the half turn, full turn and eye roll (Seinfeld) I just say, no smoking to them, and if they don't get the message I say leave.
Now, I would love to take a big fat fsck-off cigar with me, because even cigarette smokers find that noxious offensive smoke painfully intruding, but what can they say, if they sit next to me with thier symbol of immaturity and insecurity./rant
I honestly believe that the only good thing about smoking is the fact that it is bad for you.
I know that, my logic might be twisted, I will mentally retrace my steps.
If you say 'the fastest' orbit for a non-powered object, does that work?
Yes. Sorry confused lowest with slowest.
I guess it is technically:
The lowest orbit of a non powered object which would equate to an object that never slows due to atmosphere. This would travel faster than something at a higher orbit, because of gravity.
(And somehow I think the circumference of the orbit is importnat somewhere?)
Addiction happens every time you each anything. When you eat an apple, your body makes a corelation to the net effect - vitamins etc. When if needs those again, it will say, hey why not eat an apple.
This is why people get queezy just thinking about vodka after thier first night on the piss.
Their body is saying, hey you don't want to do that again, you remember who you woke up next to? (hence the upset feeling)
I am not sure how addictives such as nicotine work, I guess it is the same principle though, your body goes through a cycle, gaining a chemical, and then having a bad depletion of that chemical. Cigarettes give you a small up, but then bring you down (chemically) the body panics, and sayd, what have I had recently that give me a small up? it says, hey man, we are dying, have another cig... the cycle repeats.
This is speculation on my part, but it sounds about right to me.
So I think there is only one chain of dependancy - physical &&|| psychological.
Modify library, keep it GPL, but implement your interface...
aah, I see, the interface becomes GPL... UNLESS the interface is:
Interface (non GPL) | | GPL Library--- via interface ---- Your non GPL library
THis would mean that realistically and technically, you could ENABLE GPL'd software, like drivers, to work with your proprietary code.
The 'Interface' (which needs to be the same class loaded object for it to be the same interface)... *thinks* Of course, the interface is in package abc, GPL'd XYZ uses ABC, and you use ABC.
Now the problem would be: a GPL'd program might not be allowed to contain one interface class that comes from a non-GPL'd package, but as you said, you could relicense it to yourself.
The reasons for this are twofold:
If you wanted to interoperate some software that was GPL/LGPL in the same way ('drivers'), as a benefit to OSS, or slightly malisciously, and use a GPL speech recognition software in commercial software, using a standard.
Of course, you could easily write a network layer that abstrasts it all through XML, and GPL that, and then just support anything that uses that network layer, even you proprietary software.
So that is completely legit. [I think GPL means you can distro your modifications is the source is available, and of course, you have no objects releasing simple XML hooks that you want to use on the GPL'd library.
You crush the software back into just data. You use it in a black box. anything could be in there.
I'd preffer not to have caffeine at all. I just had a 'morning coke' (in some richer more hip societies that has a completely different meaning see: Sniffing Accountant)
I bought it because today is a belter at work (hence I am recouperating on/.!) and I thought, the last thing I want is to get a headache (not that I ever get any, but this thread sparked me off)
So, yes, if you want your caffein, the pills are to go (I used to down packets of pro plus in my finals, or when we wanted to club until 7am... or both!:-)
After 6 pro plus, you actually get quite drowsy... which I doubt is very good.
Caffeine, Adrenaline, anabolic resperation, they all help get a little more out of ourselves in the short term, but beat us like a bitch-who-didn't-get-the-dinner-done-on-time later on.
Don't do drugs kids.
Or, Winners don't use drugs. I actually think those computer game messages influenced me!
The caffeine that is added to Coca-Cola classic, diet Coke and the other products in which it is used is for flavor purposes only. We use only the amount necessary to achieve the appropriate optimum flavor profile for the particular product sold.
I don't actually enjoy drinking coke (TM) that much - however some days I just feel the need for one you know...
Coffee usually requires a bit more effort (filter coffee at work, no funky coffee machine) and coke is so readily avilable.
There was a half witty documentary that showed what happened to four office females when deprived of coffee, coke, and chocolate (all caffeine and comfort, too many C's). They became ultra-hyper-bitches.
Which is only shy above thier usual office bitchyness (you know the types).
Anyway, yes it is real - we have all experienced it I am sure. even cats were rumoured to be subject to it after Whiskas (cat food) was rumoured to contain caffeine.
Rumor: Caffeine in soft drinks is addictive Our Response: Caffeine is not addictive. Caffeine has had a long history in the food supply, consumed as long ago as 2700 B.C. Scientific evaluation of caffeine's physiological effects in light of the criteria for drug dependence clearly shows that caffeine is not similar to the use of drugs of abuse or dependence. It is true that some symptoms of withdrawal can be experienced by some people if caffeine consumption is stopped abruptly.
So they do cover this, I wonder how new this is, or if they will update this, they used ot have a bit about WHY they put it in there, like for flavour.
Plus, it opens the door to all sorts of useful heads up display possibilities (porn).
Oh man, he might hit the PA switch and we'd get an eyeful of screaming and moaning, and start panicking!
Either that or he could feed 'horny hostesses' instead of the flight film, I always get an aisle seat now, those undersexed little... *realises not alone here* ahem, I mean yes, jolly good.
I do not think "Karma Whoring" has much meaning on/. , oh for about the last 500 years:-)
From the posted article:
Decreased damage from chaingun to 25 in multiplayer
I bet there will be some whining people with that one.
I guess this patch breaks client/server compatibility. I have downloaded, and burnt the demo, I will be playig this tonight, although with a 128mb GeForce 4MX, I think it will suck graphically:-(
in Java terms. If I don't import, but I use some kind of classloader lookup (based on user pref) and cast it to an interface (sorry to be so blunt!) so I talk to this 'mystery' GPL / nonGPL library, can I jsut let loose my code, heck, and even send a copy of the GPL stuff (redist allowed!) as a suggested thungamyjib(TM), which works with it (since I knew it would)
Of course, problem here is, you would need to modify the GPL code to work with you interface, which is fine, because you will send your version back, and if you distribute it, you will send you code changes, and with that seperate project,keep to the GPL.
Any opposition to this? Am I wrong? Seems like a simple 'get around'.
I wonder why that is. Is it impossible for something to travel fast enough at 100km to attain a stable orbit, or is this an arbitary line, or is the atmosphere present so that it required a powered orbit (in essence, not an orbit, becaus eyou have ot counteract the atmosphere?)
So why is it not low earth orbit, and what is, and why:-)
If I write an application that, for instance, sends faxes. You could use a closed source driver for this, or you could use a GPL'd driver for this.
Right? Now, if I wrote a game, that wanted to use this GPL jive, what level of abstraction would allow me to use this (ditribute is as a 'suggested' compatible chat server) wihtou GPL'ing my own code?
This is more of a query that has laid dormant in my mind, now I see this (and that open source voice recognition) and I think more abou tit. Not that I do not want to relewase the source of my own app - just wondering.
I will look at this. (Jive software I heard about them in a negative context a while back, or was that Jive forums? blast)
One upon a year, 624khz was far more than what we had, and VGA was state of the art.
Lets not forget 256mb smart cards come in Cereal Packets nowwadays.
So if your VGA screen is small, you have new ways of interacting, multi modal - voice recognition from mobile phone technology (voice dial) for small vocabulary recognition, shortcut buttons, hand writing recog, and stylus input.
Not to mention new inputs like Dasher. Lets not get appl eand pairs. Opie or GPE and the familar projects and other, they are real linux - and no you don't want an OS formatted for 4:3 19" screen on your 16:9 pocket screen. (google Dasher - it runs on my Axim rather well.)
So you argue against familiar being a 'full' linux, not just a different flavour, but you also state you cannot just push darwin onto a PDA.
So if you moddified it to work on a PDA, you would look at in discust, say it isn't a 'real' darwin, and if it was you wouldn't want it....
What is your point? Sorry but a lot of work is going on in this field (lots of happy hardware hacking) and I am waiting impatiently for a rebootable, power managed debianesuq distro to run on my axim - give them encouragement not misdirectd misdirection.
Hope that made sense.
He said normal not popular.
He didn't say widespread either. He said normal.
Xvid is way more normal that QuickTime(TM) and I could show you some gaussian curves that will show you what normal is.
QT is more widespread than Xvid, but some viral video type like this would channel lots of traffic Xvids way, and in the world of Xwindows, Xbox, windowsXp, and XXX, Xvid is happly at home.
I wonder what gets more P2P searches - divX or Xvid?
They don't want you just swapping out the OS, they want you to keep on a treadmill of new device new OS, this is reciprocal. If they can tie thier OS into the handheld like that, when a new model comes out, you wont wanna be paying a small upgrade, you want to buy a whole new OS lock stock in the OEM pricing.
:-) or a zombified network of bluetoothed PDAs that seamlessly pop on and off your CPU grid, and you harness all those lovely hertz of power.
My Dell 624mhz will love a nice linux aimed at it, let me go check the familiar project right now!
Linux on handhelds - the future of computing!
(imagine a WiFi'd beowulf of those!
All in the name of Doom3 on your PDA!
Played Doom3 demo last night. Went through the airlock, all hell broke loose, went back through airlock, got bored, switched it off. Uninstalling it tonight (after I play it once more on mad detail to see how slow it is.)
Saved me some money that demo did.
Looking forward to ActionDoom3!!!!!!!! ZOMG cripes that would rock!
I see your MP5, and raise you a M4 with silencer, and a pair of slippers.
Old Skool.
Kramer: Mmm... Nice wallet.
Newman: Wallet.
Jerry: What?
Kramer showing Jerry the contents of his pocket
Kramer: Nobody carries wallets anymore. I mean, they went out with powdered wigs. Yeah, see here's what you need. Just a couple of cards and your bankroll.
See, keep the big bills on the outside.
Jerry: That's a five.
For those who are about to die, we salute you!
/rant
Smokers, you either love them, or you want to pour chlorine down thier epiglottal.
Smoking is so complex.
Child smoking is a 6 billion dollar industry in the US alone. You fund that industry, and perpetuate it.
People start smoking today due to peer pressure, wanting to fit it. I defy anyone who will deny it, and say, I was the original smoker - people at college wanted to be like me.
People continue smoking because of: Addiction. They either admit that, or say they like to smoke (which in essence is true, it is enjoyable because thier body feels better). However, they mainly don't think about it (habitual).
If they really think about it, they would preffer if they never started.
Smokers have lower immune systems and cost health care lots of money. Tabacco taxes do feed back into that healthcare, but a lot of research (which is limited folks, only a certain number of bright people on this planet) is taken to these areas, as it is profitable.
Now, aside from all that. Public smoking. People think they have a right. The worst thing is if someone sits next to me who is smoking, I am past the half turn, full turn and eye roll (Seinfeld) I just say, no smoking to them, and if they don't get the message I say leave.
Now, I would love to take a big fat fsck-off cigar with me, because even cigarette smokers find that noxious offensive smoke painfully intruding, but what can they say, if they sit next to me with thier symbol of immaturity and insecurity.
I honestly believe that the only good thing about smoking is the fact that it is bad for you.
Diet coke contains the same ammount of caffeine.
/. since 1873.
Probbaly she is making your life miserable because she has internal issues with her weight, and is drinking diet coke.
Suggest an after work tipple (business of course)get her drunk, and polaroid her ass, then pin it to eh notice board at work.
Helping people on
I mean, how can people worry, and then buy caffeinated chewing cum, caffeine tablets, and erm, caffeinated shampoo. (check thinkgeek in 2 weeks...)
I know that, my logic might be twisted, I will mentally retrace my steps.
If you say 'the fastest' orbit for a non-powered object, does that work?
Yes. Sorry confused lowest with slowest.
I guess it is technically:
The lowest orbit of a non powered object which would equate to an object that never slows due to atmosphere. This would travel faster than something at a higher orbit, because of gravity.
(And somehow I think the circumference of the orbit is importnat somewhere?)
Addiction happens every time you each anything. When you eat an apple, your body makes a corelation to the net effect - vitamins etc. When if needs those again, it will say, hey why not eat an apple.
This is why people get queezy just thinking about vodka after thier first night on the piss.
Their body is saying, hey you don't want to do that again, you remember who you woke up next to? (hence the upset feeling)
I am not sure how addictives such as nicotine work, I guess it is the same principle though, your body goes through a cycle, gaining a chemical, and then having a bad depletion of that chemical. Cigarettes give you a small up, but then bring you down (chemically) the body panics, and sayd, what have I had recently that give me a small up? it says, hey man, we are dying, have another cig... the cycle repeats.
This is speculation on my part, but it sounds about right to me.
So I think there is only one chain of dependancy - physical &&|| psychological.
I am aware of LGPL - of course.
... *thinks* Of course, the interface is in package abc, GPL'd XYZ uses ABC, and you use ABC.
What I am suggesting is:
Nice Library, GPL
Modify library, keep it GPL, but implement your interface...
aah, I see, the interface becomes GPL... UNLESS the interface is:
Interface (non GPL)
|
|
GPL Library--- via interface ---- Your non GPL library
THis would mean that realistically and technically, you could ENABLE GPL'd software, like drivers, to work with your proprietary code.
The 'Interface' (which needs to be the same class loaded object for it to be the same interface)
Now the problem would be: a GPL'd program might not be allowed to contain one interface class that comes from a non-GPL'd package, but as you said, you could relicense it to yourself.
The reasons for this are twofold:
If you wanted to interoperate some software that was GPL/LGPL in the same way ('drivers'), as a benefit to OSS, or slightly malisciously, and use a GPL speech recognition software in commercial software, using a standard.
Of course, you could easily write a network layer that abstrasts it all through XML, and GPL that, and then just support anything that uses that network layer, even you proprietary software.
So that is completely legit. [I think GPL means you can distro your modifications is the source is available, and of course, you have no objects releasing simple XML hooks that you want to use on the GPL'd library.
You crush the software back into just data. You use it in a black box. anything could be in there.
Is this against the spirit of GPL?
I'd preffer not to have caffeine at all. I just had a 'morning coke' (in some richer more hip societies that has a completely different meaning see: Sniffing Accountant)
/.!) and I thought, the last thing I want is to get a headache (not that I ever get any, but this thread sparked me off)
:-)
I bought it because today is a belter at work (hence I am recouperating on
So, yes, if you want your caffein, the pills are to go (I used to down packets of pro plus in my finals, or when we wanted to club until 7am... or both!
After 6 pro plus, you actually get quite drowsy... which I doubt is very good.
Caffeine, Adrenaline, anabolic resperation, they all help get a little more out of ourselves in the short term, but beat us like a bitch-who-didn't-get-the-dinner-done-on-time later on.
Don't do drugs kids.
Or, Winners don't use drugs. I actually think those computer game messages influenced me!
And Cabals insanely fun violence.
Anyone play Extreme Violence?
http://www2.coca-cola.com/contactus/faq/ingredient s.html#5
s /i ngredients_addictive_include.html
(beware erroneous spaces and formatting issues)
The caffeine that is added to Coca-Cola classic, diet Coke and the other products in which it is used is for flavor purposes only. We use only the amount necessary to achieve the appropriate optimum flavor profile for the particular product sold.
(and last link was buggered)
http://www2.coca-cola.com/contactus/myths_rumor
forget linking.
I don't actually enjoy drinking coke (TM) that much - however some days I just feel the need for one you know...
Coffee usually requires a bit more effort (filter coffee at work, no funky coffee machine) and coke is so readily avilable.
There was a half witty documentary that showed what happened to four office females when deprived of coffee, coke, and chocolate (all caffeine and comfort, too many C's). They became ultra-hyper-bitches.
Which is only shy above thier usual office bitchyness (you know the types).
Anyway, yes it is real - we have all experienced it I am sure. even cats were rumoured to be subject to it after Whiskas (cat food) was rumoured to contain caffeine.
Why is caffeine in coke?
according to Coca Cola
Rumor: Caffeine in soft drinks is addictive
Our Response: Caffeine is not addictive. Caffeine has had a long history in the food supply, consumed as long ago as 2700 B.C. Scientific evaluation of caffeine's physiological effects in light of the criteria for drug dependence clearly shows that caffeine is not similar to the use of drugs of abuse or dependence. It is true that some symptoms of withdrawal can be experienced by some people if caffeine consumption is stopped abruptly.
So they do cover this, I wonder how new this is, or if they will update this, they used ot have a bit about WHY they put it in there, like for flavour.
My caffeine addicted ass.
1-800-839-5276
/. them instead.
copy-pasted wrong 800 number, I feel like such a dork!
Well, if it is XBOX, then lets
1-800-839-5276
copy-pasted wrong 800 number, I feel like such a dork!
Plus, it opens the door to all sorts of useful heads up display possibilities (porn).
Oh man, he might hit the PA switch and we'd get an eyeful of screaming and moaning, and start panicking!
Either that or he could feed 'horny hostesses' instead of the flight film, I always get an aisle seat now, those undersexed little... *realises not alone here* ahem, I mean yes, jolly good.
I certainly won't make light of this problem.
Sorry - couldn't resist...
orbital speed is in the ballpark of 17000 mph
:-)
Erm, it probably is at one altitude.
If you meant "the slowest orbital speed of a non powered object (therefore the lowest true orbit) is"
Then I only have google to contest that... if you meant the favourite orbit altitude, then again, I am not sure ( your didn't state )
But yes, it ain't easy getting there either way you look at it.
Although WROX also make a fine good yarn.
:-)
Who is this Letterman guy? Is he another hyped up CTO who publishes a blog, or has he written any good books/articles...
*comes down from development high*
Oooooooh comedy... I'll take Seinfeld Series 1-3 thanks.
"Twiiiiiiix!"
Today is INDUCE act call in day
Call now and state your opinion
(US) 800.469.9269
Which is why they are not put back into source.
Mozilla release generic stuff, as you would, not good asking people to choose which CPU you have to use the intarweb.
Grab a CPUID app, find out your flavour of CPU (or just remember what one you bought) and d/l an optimised version!
I think quake 3 is some monster that runs certain branches of optimised code instructions based on processor... maybe...
So no source changes, just compiler sex.
800.469.9269 INDUCE ACT CALL IN DAY. Phone now, and state you are opposed to the INDUCE ACT
This is very important, and I cannot thank the organisation that have brought us so far in this, certainly, divided we fall on these issues.
/. them!
You can call: (US) 800.469.9269 and register yourself as an opponent of INDUCE, a simple affair.
You can email: (follow forms on savebetamax.org)
Also savebetamax.org and downhllbattle have many many resources.
Do all you can, lets
I do not think "Karma Whoring" has much meaning on /. , oh for about the last 500 years :-)
:-(
From the posted article:
Decreased damage from chaingun to 25 in multiplayer
I bet there will be some whining people with that one.
I guess this patch breaks client/server compatibility. I have downloaded, and burnt the demo, I will be playig this tonight, although with a 128mb GeForce 4MX, I think it will suck graphically
in Java terms. If I don't import, but I use some kind of classloader lookup (based on user pref) and cast it to an interface (sorry to be so blunt!) so I talk to this 'mystery' GPL / nonGPL library, can I jsut let loose my code, heck, and even send a copy of the GPL stuff (redist allowed!) as a suggested thungamyjib(TM), which works with it (since I knew it would)
Of course, problem here is, you would need to modify the GPL code to work with you interface, which is fine, because you will send your version back, and if you distribute it, you will send you code changes, and with that seperate project,keep to the GPL.
Any opposition to this? Am I wrong? Seems like a simple 'get around'.
I wonder why that is. Is it impossible for something to travel fast enough at 100km to attain a stable orbit, or is this an arbitary line, or is the atmosphere present so that it required a powered orbit (in essence, not an orbit, becaus eyou have ot counteract the atmosphere?)
:-)
So why is it not low earth orbit, and what is, and why
Sorry, IANANASAE
If I write an application that, for instance, sends faxes. You could use a closed source driver for this, or you could use a GPL'd driver for this.
Right? Now, if I wrote a game, that wanted to use this GPL jive, what level of abstraction would allow me to use this (ditribute is as a 'suggested' compatible chat server) wihtou GPL'ing my own code?
This is more of a query that has laid dormant in my mind, now I see this (and that open source voice recognition) and I think more abou tit. Not that I do not want to relewase the source of my own app - just wondering.
I will look at this. (Jive software I heard about them in a negative context a while back, or was that Jive forums? blast)