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Caffeine Withdrawal Recognized As Real
Ben Sullivan writes "What many Slashdotters have long known looks set to become official: Caffeine withdrawal is for real. New research at Johns Hopkins should result in it being included in the next edition of the DSM, and recognized by the World Health Organization."
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W0w0w, you better watch out for them if they haven't had their morning coffee! They're CRAAZZZYYYY and dangerous!
And they blunder their way through posts without previewing. Seriously, if a huge mistake is made, it's usually "because I haven't had my coffee."
I didn't write these.
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I don't actually enjoy drinking coke (TM) that much - however some days I just feel the need for one you know...
Coffee usually requires a bit more effort (filter coffee at work, no funky coffee machine) and coke is so readily avilable.
There was a half witty documentary that showed what happened to four office females when deprived of coffee, coke, and chocolate (all caffeine and comfort, too many C's). They became ultra-hyper-bitches.
Which is only shy above thier usual office bitchyness (you know the types).
Anyway, yes it is real - we have all experienced it I am sure. even cats were rumoured to be subject to it after Whiskas (cat food) was rumoured to contain caffeine.
Why is caffeine in coke?
according to Coca Cola
Rumor: Caffeine in soft drinks is addictive
Our Response: Caffeine is not addictive. Caffeine has had a long history in the food supply, consumed as long ago as 2700 B.C. Scientific evaluation of caffeine's physiological effects in light of the criteria for drug dependence clearly shows that caffeine is not similar to the use of drugs of abuse or dependence. It is true that some symptoms of withdrawal can be experienced by some people if caffeine consumption is stopped abruptly.
So they do cover this, I wonder how new this is, or if they will update this, they used ot have a bit about WHY they put it in there, like for flavour.
My caffeine addicted ass.
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http://www2.coca-cola.com/contactus/faq/ingredient s.html#5
s /i ngredients_addictive_include.html
(beware erroneous spaces and formatting issues)
The caffeine that is added to Coca-Cola classic, diet Coke and the other products in which it is used is for flavor purposes only. We use only the amount necessary to achieve the appropriate optimum flavor profile for the particular product sold.
(and last link was buggered)
http://www2.coca-cola.com/contactus/myths_rumor
forget linking.
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What about Internet withdrawal ? Will it be recognized as a serious disease by the WHO ? Is a global campaign to help Net addicts to get their fix underway ? People are probably dying as I type this because a flaky remote access server broke in the middle of their IRC session. Everytime an Internet link goes down, nerds die. Please, think of the nerds !
Tell it to my headache, I've been trying to give it up for the last week. Sigh....
Fumbling around to brew coffee just cuts into sleep time and drinking coffee on watch just makes it harder to get back to sleep. As one tactician commented about staying as rested as possible to be able to make good decisions and keep pushing, "sleep is a weapon".
Since I don't want to combine a massive headache with the inevitable seasickness that hits during the first 1-2 days I slowly cut back on the coffee so I'm off of it completely a week or two before the race.
Of course I start back up as soon as I get back from Hawaii.
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This is a medical CONDITION, not a mental illness, and should be treated as such.
Still no cure for cancer.
- Penguin Caffinated Mints
- Buy Pure Caffeine Pills
- Seriously Caffinated
And now I have to quit caffeine. No more soda, no more coffee, no more caffinated mints. I don't want to be chained to any sort of non-critical substance (oxygen, hydrogen, and meat proteins. You know, those unavoidable things).Informatus Technologicus
I didn't really have headaches, I had aches in my bones. It's hard to describe, but for at least a week I had this deep ache in all my bones. I assume this is the 'muscle ache' that the study talked about, but to me, it was really deep inside, like it was in my... bones. Very weird. I work out occasionally, so I know what sore muscles feel like. This was different.
Read a few websites and found other people who had felt the same thing. After a few days it went away and I've been caffeine free since. Sometimes I still really, really want that morning cup. It's not that difficult to say no. Like I said, I guess I don't have an addictive personality. Yay me!
I only take coffee the days I REALLY have to study EXCEPT the day before, a good rest the day before can do miracles. I haven't been put under the stress you guys have suffered from ... yet. Strangely enough I haven't developed a dependency to that magical beverage ;).
It also seems to have less of an effect on my body.
Maybe I should try heroin ;)
If it becomes listed in the DSM, doesn't this really just mean that it will be "legally legitimate" so insurance companies can determine if or if not "treatment" (whatever that might be) should be covered?
My mom always said, "Jim, you're 1 in a million." Given the current population, there are 7000 of me. God help us all!
That reminds me, I've got a big test this Friday and I need to study.
When does the patch and the gum come out?
Caffeine and endorphines are the only drugs I trust.
Work on stopping your serious problems instead, like sugar intake.
What I do is limit my intake to every other hour during the day. Any more just make me jumpy.
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The fscked up way that the DSM is reviewed and updated is most definitely ON topic! The psychiatric profession has been telling statistics about the prevalence of SRS, (that's "sex reassignment surgery" for you cis-gendered types) for decades now, with no real or valid reason for doing so. p revalence.html> What makes anybody think they would resort to similar shit involving the prevalence of caffeine abuse?
- Because doctors know how to change your body, but not how to change your mind.
- Because that's what your ill mind is telling you to do.
- Wouldn't a birth defect that causes abnormal changes to your cognitive and emotional state by definition be a mental illness?
As for me, I couldn't care less if you get those surgeries done, it's none of my business and I won't judge you on it asside from ruling you out as a possible mate. My only caveat is be absolutely sure that's really what you want. There is no going back.The cure for caffiene withdrawal is coffee.
I used to drink nothing but pop (or soda whatever you want to call it) for years. Then I quit cold turkey. The secret is to start drinking water instead and drinking some juice whenever you get the craving for that caffeinated sugar water. Have a pop every few days but think of it as candy. Would you want to eat nothing but candy all day?
After a few months you get addicted to water and NEED it. I feel half sick if I go without it for a couple days. Your body really loves water but has gotten used to living without it. I've went from drinking 6 pops a day to 1 a week because now they taste horrible. Try it for yourself. Pop tastes horrible, but you just have to deprive yourself of it for awhile to realize it.
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...so they can give that ownership up and let drugs own their bodies?
I would hope it would be beneficial for everyone taking it, otherwise, why take it? :P
If used properly (small doses, not before going to bed, not because your drained from the previous huge dose, etc), I think it's a great drug. Personally, it seems to benefit my life. I'm the "Green" type personality, like most nerds probably are, so I thrive off of success and accomplishments. This drug helps me get those done, which in turn makes me a happier person.
I make sure to not get addicted to caffeine since that seems to causes all the bad side effects due to the high doses, and the fact that it depletes neurotransmitters (which causes the greatest benefit to be lost).
I can't wait till they find a drug that has all the cognitive benefits of caffeine, but without any of the side effects.
Too bad speed is so bad for you...tehehehe.
SODA!!!! NOT POP!!!!!
Stop smoking - caffeine and cigarettes often go together.
Actually, the human body metabolizes caffeine at about twice the rate in the presence of nicotine. So if you quit smoking, you should cut your caffeine consumption in half at the same time.
If doctors could change my mind, I would no longer be the same person. Call it brainwashing if you like. They cannot change the one, so they must change the other. Transition has a better than 95% success rate, unequaled anywhere else in medicine. This compares with a 70% death rate (suicide or violence) if left untreated. Is this acceptable enough for you?
My mind is anything but ill, and the discomfort caused by my GID offers me the choice of transition or death. You cannot possibly understand without being there. If you think I should go out and kill myself, it would show just how much of a callous, ignorant little bastard you really are!
My emotional and cognitive states are just fine, thank you. Therefore am not suffering any form of mental illness...simple as that. It's my body that doesn't fit.
In my experience as a transwoman, I have observed only three types of person that have a problem with what I am faced with: those too stupid or ignorant to understand, those of a religious bent, (now THERE'S a mental illness for you!), or those with gender issues themselves. Which are you? Maybe you work at the Clarke! Maybe you happen to be the crackpots that are Ray Blanchard, Anne Lawrence or J. Michael Bailey!
If you're the first or the third, I suggest getting educated. Lynn Conway's (www.lynnconway.com), Jennifer Reitz' (www.transsexual.org) or Andrea James' (www.tsroadmap.com) websites are excellent places to start. If you're the second, get professional help for your own brainwashed mind.
As for being ruled out as a possible mate, no problems here! One HUGE misconception about being trans is that it is closely tied in with homosexuality. In fact, the two are not related in the least. I have always liked girls, and I will continue to like girls once I have transitioned. That this would make me a lesbian by default is your label, not mine. But, outside of being natural allies for political and activist purposes, trans-people don't typically fall in with the GLB community.
Therefore am not suffering any form of mental illness...simple as that. It's my body that doesn't fit.
I'd say there might be some denial. There is obviously a lot of frustration and anger.
Personally I think its a mental condition that is treated with surgery.
Your mind doesn't fit your body? You seem to be caught in some kind of cartesian fallacy about your mind being independant from your body... These kinds of treatments aren't as much about the nature of the illness as they are about the limited means available to modern medecine and what can be done to get the best result.
Seriously dude (or dudette... whatever), if your body works fine, but you mentally can't cope with being in it, then the problem is obviously with the mind in the body, not the body itself. I don't really care btw, if you can't cope being the way you are and there's a way to change you so you'll cope better, great, go for it. Live and let live, all that jazz. You're being quite vocal about it though, and ruining our nice cafeine thread. Now, if you're a transexual with a cafeine addiction, then by all means, enlighten us about your unique perspective.
One HUGE misconception about being trans is that it is closely tied in with homosexuality. In fact, the two are not related in the least. I have always liked girls, and I will continue to like girls once I have transitioned.
You are rejecting your male self, doesn't surprise me in the least that you wouldn't be attracted to other males.
You can't take the sky from me...
Natural decaf coffee plant is not genetically modified (as opposed to this other decaf evil plant) and is great news since it will be much tastier than today's decaf but also much cheaper to produce, maybe even opening a new market for the strugling third world countries producing your coffee.
With that aggravating beauty, Lulu Walls.
It never worked, because I would find that, after a while, I had gradually (and quite unconsiously) increased my consumption until I was at my former level.
Finally, I decided to just quit Cold Turkey.
That meant that I would not have to keep track of how much I was drinking, which meant no unconsious increase.
I had a tremendous headache for about three days, to the point where I couldn't do any work at all, and had trouble sleeping.
After about five days, the headache was gone.
I have not had any Coke since.
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Am I the only one that drinks caffeinated beverages (specifically coffee) as a source of entertainment? Yes, I am so intelligent that I consume as much as seven or eight cups of coffee in a couple of hours. I've also had ten of the caffeinated mints (the specific brand escapes me, 1 cup per mint is all I remember) in roughly an hour, and kept eating them. The experience is rather interesting. The gastrointestinal side effects can be irritating, but I still reccomend this to anyone...smart...enough to do it. The only thing that saddens me is that I haven't reached that magical 100th cup (far from it,) and I know no others that have, so the portrayal of it by Fry is all I have to motivate me to continue for now.
Wake up and smell the coffee!
I have had lots of caffine at short times before.
I think I am immune to it because I have never had caffine withdrawl. Caffine doesn't even seem to keep me awake.
I don't see anything wrong with caffeine... in fact I use it all the time I think it helps me focus here at work where I'm just a few steps away from the coffee machine and since I'm so close I make sure it's always working right and so I have to test it a lot and I wouldn't want to let it break down because then there would be no coffee until it was fixed and what if someone needed a little boost in order to figure out how to fix it that would blow so I pour a cup or two every hour just to keep the edge going hey I said edge and my favorite band is U2 and my favorite color is clear no that's my second favorite color my real favorite color is black which is the color of my coffee which reminds me my cup runneth under ha ha my spell checker says runneth isn't a word but it's in that cup expression so it would have to be a word otherwise that expression is just a load of crap but we know an expression like that has to be true and that reminds me I need more caffeine and I don't see anything wrong with caffeine... in fact I use it all the time I think it helps me focus here at work where I'm just a few steps away from the coffee machine and since I'm so close I make sure it's always working right and so I have to test it a lot and I wouldn't want to let it break down because then there would be no coffee until it was fixed and what if someone needed a little boost in order to figure out how to fix it that would blow so I pour a cup or two every hour just to keep the edge going hey I said edge and my favorite band is U2 and my favorite color is clear no that's my second favorite color my real favorite color is black which is the color of my coffee which reminds me my cup runneth under ha ha my spell checker says runneth isn't a word but it's in that cup expression so it would have to be a word otherwise that expression is just a load of crap but we know an expression like that has to be true and that reminds me I need more caffeine and I don't see anything wrong with caffeine...
I wonder how new this is, or if they will update this
From the bit you quoted:
> some symptoms of withdrawal can be experienced by some people
So, condidering that the link states that "Caffiene withdrawl is real", I'm curious as to what you think needs to be changed?