Re:Um...because using a computer is more complex?
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Car: crash - die Computer: crash - go get coffee
What relevance does that have to ease-of-use? A car is still easier than a computer. Car--grab steering wheel, turn on, and go. Keep in a straight line, follow colored lights.
Computer? I can't even list a process because there's no way of knowing what steps they'd be and how many.
What makes you think Windows XP won't have support for those DVD devices as well?
My point still stands--hardware manufacturers develop drivers for Windows on a daily basis. You'll see hardware support for Windows before you'll see it for Linux. And then it just so happens that Longhorn will have out-of-the-box support for HD-DVD (and who's not to say other formats as well).
The "megalomaniac" comment was baseless and silly. Yes, putting out an operating system makes a company a megalomaniac. You need to graduate college and get out of the dorm room into the real world.
What exactly is the difference between MPEG-2 and MPEG-4? Presumably, one has better compression than the other, so perhaps there's a reason for the decreased space in HD-DVDs.
Other than dislike for something that supports a Microsoft codec as well as the need to re-encode HDTV programs, what is the disadvantage to HD-DVD as opposed to Blu-Ray?
Basically, I just want the LOTR trilogy in the best format possible for home theater entertainment.
Seems Windows has the greater chance of driver and codec support here due to its much, much greater manufacturer support.
This is the second post I've seen that assumes HD-DVD will be the only supported format on Longhorn, that it won't be available for previous versions of Windows, etc. People, they make these things called codecs and drivers. I hear tell you can even install them.
All this news is saying is that HD-DVD will be supported out of the box. You know, how DVDs are supported out of the box for Windows XP? I fail to see the issue here, but I guess it allows a few Slashdotters to get up on a soapbox and bitch about nothing in the name of feeling important, so there you go.
Yes, let's ignore all the good, classic films that come out every year just because there were some flash-in-the-pan sequels that got some press for about a month.
It's cool to bitch about ourselves--it makes us enlightened!
I can tell you weren't around them to even miss the "old-time mentality of things." UNIX was a commercial product that spawned lawsuit hell.
Personally, I believe UNIX is overhyped. People are attaching some sort of bizarre nostalgia and perfection to it. I saw one post here comparing pipes to "object orientation" before the idea had even been put forth.
Um...because using a computer is more complex?
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How about because using a computer is more complex than driving car?
This is the exact lack of perspective in IT people that I wrote about in another post. Just because you understand what a "command prompt" is doesn't mean everyone else does. But the majority of us knows how to push a gas pedal and steer a wheel.
Computers, unlike cars, constantly have problems that require checking the internal hardware or software configurations. Do you know how to refit your car's exhaust manifold? If cars were as flaky as computers, wouldn't you feel annoyed at the anti-social, nerdy car mechanics whose lives are spent arguing over car model brands as though they're religions, and taking time out of their oh-so-busy schedules of bitching to each other in order to fix your incessant problems?
Let's face it, most of us computer nerds are anti-social. Part of the reason we got into computers in the first place.
There's generally a holier-than-thou attitude already in place. I laugh when I hear my nerdy friends complain so arrogantly about the "populace" who dares use Microsoft products as opposed to OSS. It just illustrates an amazing lack of perspective toward people who treat their computers and operating systems as simple tools to get work done, and not hobbies or religions.
If everyone switched to another specific lock for your car, it would get broken into as much as the other did.
Linux distributions have their security flaws too. Just because they're not ever reported on Slashdot doesn't mean they're not out there. Give Linux and its applications the amazingly widespread usage of Windows and you'll see just as many fuck-ups coming out.
The difference, and the source of valid criticism, is the speed at which Microsoft addresses these issues. But to be fair, it looks like they have been pouring their resources into SP2 and making something rock-solid. We should at least applaud them for that. This should be a mature community and not an anti-"M$" bashing crew.
You should be wishing that Microsoft wises up, and that SP2 is great (and it is...the recent Ject trojan didn't affect people who already had SP2 RC installed).
Clearly, it's just personal vindictiveness on your part. I'll remember what you said the next time Slashdot posts about a Linux kernel exploit. Oh, and remember how Gnome, Gentoo, Debian, Savannah, GNU, and more were hacked within the span of six months last year? How's that for a "wake up call?"
People who treat operating systems like religions are silly. SP2 is a great update to XP. I still prefer 2000 simply because of its simplicity, but I find it funny that when 2000 was about to be released, all the Slashdotters here were falling over themselves to post about how it was going to fail, and how it was going to be the "final nail in the coffin." Many people scoffed at the several millions of lines of code it has.
Now, Slashdotters are always praising 2000 as the best Windows release ever. I just find it funny how community opinions contradict themselves, even as each one thinks it's the right one.
You'd be saving yourself a chunk of time if you just installed a slipstreamed SP4 Windows 2000 install.
As for the grandparent, people make a big deal out of simple Windows problems even as they downplay similar Linux problems. I don't even want to detail my network experiences with Slackware, Gentoo, and Red Hat 9. Ugh. We eventually went with XP.
You know what? The only people I ever see complaining about Clippy are Slashdotters who think it's still 1998, and that BSODs and Clippy are regular parts of the Windows experience.
I haven't seen Clippy in a default Office install in five years. Whenever he did appear, I--gasp--right-clicked on him and clicked "Hide," thereby causing him to never return.
Why do people still use criticisms from the past decade to criticize Microsoft now? I mean, really, what does Clippy have to do with SP2 RC2 causing some problems on some computers? For the record, I run SP2 RC2 on both my home machine and my laptop with no problems at all. In fact, bootup is shorter and performance overall is snappier, presumably because of all the recompiled system libraries (using the VS2005 compiler...SP1 was compiled with VS6).
They don't really "predict" anything. Just because it's based on some other theories doesn't suddenly mean we really will contact aliens in 20 years just because they said so. Organizations like to make vague, arbitrary predictions like this to stir up publicity. It's like when "experts" make claims that we'll have robot servents by 2012. It's meaningless.
If a species of monkeys, for whatever reason, began walking on their hind legs, then they would have a greater chance of reproducing if that somehow provided a survival advantage. Soon, the monkeys that walked better than the others would have a higher survival rate, and so on and so on until the walking process was refined throughout the ages.
One definition of evolution is the process of retaining the characteristics that ensure a greater chance of survival and reproduction.
What does Fair Use have to do with going online to download someone's copyrighted material? If you wanted to make a backup of your copy, you'd do it on your computer.
How can you possibly be up in arms over a GPL license violation yet be supportive of copyright violation on P2P networks? Seems like a double standard to think license violation is okay and "justified" in one instance but not in another. Just askin'.
After all, using the more widely-supported system that has the applications they need is wrong--an educational system should take a chance on something less-supported with fewer apps, 'lest the college dorm room Slashdotters accuse them of teaching groupthink! Education is more about following ideals rather than getting the job done.
Windows is the more common system, and there are more applications, particularly educational applications. More hardware is supported, and people have more experience with Windows.
I fail to see why it's so surprising the school went to Windows. I have yet to come across a high school or college that wasn't this way.
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Car: crash - die
Computer: crash - go get coffee
What relevance does that have to ease-of-use? A car is still easier than a computer. Car--grab steering wheel, turn on, and go. Keep in a straight line, follow colored lights.
Computer? I can't even list a process because there's no way of knowing what steps they'd be and how many.
What makes you think Windows XP won't have support for those DVD devices as well?
My point still stands--hardware manufacturers develop drivers for Windows on a daily basis. You'll see hardware support for Windows before you'll see it for Linux. And then it just so happens that Longhorn will have out-of-the-box support for HD-DVD (and who's not to say other formats as well).
The "megalomaniac" comment was baseless and silly. Yes, putting out an operating system makes a company a megalomaniac. You need to graduate college and get out of the dorm room into the real world.
What exactly is the difference between MPEG-2 and MPEG-4? Presumably, one has better compression than the other, so perhaps there's a reason for the decreased space in HD-DVDs.
Other than dislike for something that supports a Microsoft codec as well as the need to re-encode HDTV programs, what is the disadvantage to HD-DVD as opposed to Blu-Ray?
Basically, I just want the LOTR trilogy in the best format possible for home theater entertainment.
Seems Windows has the greater chance of driver and codec support here due to its much, much greater manufacturer support.
This is the second post I've seen that assumes HD-DVD will be the only supported format on Longhorn, that it won't be available for previous versions of Windows, etc. People, they make these things called codecs and drivers. I hear tell you can even install them.
All this news is saying is that HD-DVD will be supported out of the box. You know, how DVDs are supported out of the box for Windows XP? I fail to see the issue here, but I guess it allows a few Slashdotters to get up on a soapbox and bitch about nothing in the name of feeling important, so there you go.
They're just saying it will support it out of the box. I'm sure manufacturers will make their own drivers for previous operating systems.
What exactly is the problem here? I also have to wait for certain features when a new Linux kernel is due out.
Yes, let's ignore all the good, classic films that come out every year just because there were some flash-in-the-pan sequels that got some press for about a month.
It's cool to bitch about ourselves--it makes us enlightened!
In other words, it's scheduled to be released next week.
I can tell you weren't around them to even miss the "old-time mentality of things." UNIX was a commercial product that spawned lawsuit hell.
Personally, I believe UNIX is overhyped. People are attaching some sort of bizarre nostalgia and perfection to it. I saw one post here comparing pipes to "object orientation" before the idea had even been put forth.
How about because using a computer is more complex than driving car?
This is the exact lack of perspective in IT people that I wrote about in another post. Just because you understand what a "command prompt" is doesn't mean everyone else does. But the majority of us knows how to push a gas pedal and steer a wheel.
Computers, unlike cars, constantly have problems that require checking the internal hardware or software configurations. Do you know how to refit your car's exhaust manifold? If cars were as flaky as computers, wouldn't you feel annoyed at the anti-social, nerdy car mechanics whose lives are spent arguing over car model brands as though they're religions, and taking time out of their oh-so-busy schedules of bitching to each other in order to fix your incessant problems?
Yeah...perspective is good.
Let's face it, most of us computer nerds are anti-social. Part of the reason we got into computers in the first place.
There's generally a holier-than-thou attitude already in place. I laugh when I hear my nerdy friends complain so arrogantly about the "populace" who dares use Microsoft products as opposed to OSS. It just illustrates an amazing lack of perspective toward people who treat their computers and operating systems as simple tools to get work done, and not hobbies or religions.
or, at least, may have screwed with Doom on the PCs back at school, but have no idea there's a number 3 due out
Believe me, after it comes out, they'll know about it.
If everyone switched to another specific lock for your car, it would get broken into as much as the other did.
Linux distributions have their security flaws too. Just because they're not ever reported on Slashdot doesn't mean they're not out there. Give Linux and its applications the amazingly widespread usage of Windows and you'll see just as many fuck-ups coming out.
The difference, and the source of valid criticism, is the speed at which Microsoft addresses these issues. But to be fair, it looks like they have been pouring their resources into SP2 and making something rock-solid. We should at least applaud them for that. This should be a mature community and not an anti-"M$" bashing crew.
You should be wishing that Microsoft wises up, and that SP2 is great (and it is...the recent Ject trojan didn't affect people who already had SP2 RC installed).
Clearly, it's just personal vindictiveness on your part. I'll remember what you said the next time Slashdot posts about a Linux kernel exploit. Oh, and remember how Gnome, Gentoo, Debian, Savannah, GNU, and more were hacked within the span of six months last year? How's that for a "wake up call?"
People who treat operating systems like religions are silly. SP2 is a great update to XP. I still prefer 2000 simply because of its simplicity, but I find it funny that when 2000 was about to be released, all the Slashdotters here were falling over themselves to post about how it was going to fail, and how it was going to be the "final nail in the coffin." Many people scoffed at the several millions of lines of code it has.
Now, Slashdotters are always praising 2000 as the best Windows release ever. I just find it funny how community opinions contradict themselves, even as each one thinks it's the right one.
You said "M$." That makes you One Of Us. Here is your sign.
You'd be saving yourself a chunk of time if you just installed a slipstreamed SP4 Windows 2000 install.
As for the grandparent, people make a big deal out of simple Windows problems even as they downplay similar Linux problems. I don't even want to detail my network experiences with Slackware, Gentoo, and Red Hat 9. Ugh. We eventually went with XP.
You know what? The only people I ever see complaining about Clippy are Slashdotters who think it's still 1998, and that BSODs and Clippy are regular parts of the Windows experience.
I haven't seen Clippy in a default Office install in five years. Whenever he did appear, I--gasp--right-clicked on him and clicked "Hide," thereby causing him to never return.
Why do people still use criticisms from the past decade to criticize Microsoft now? I mean, really, what does Clippy have to do with SP2 RC2 causing some problems on some computers? For the record, I run SP2 RC2 on both my home machine and my laptop with no problems at all. In fact, bootup is shorter and performance overall is snappier, presumably because of all the recompiled system libraries (using the VS2005 compiler...SP1 was compiled with VS6).
They don't really "predict" anything. Just because it's based on some other theories doesn't suddenly mean we really will contact aliens in 20 years just because they said so. Organizations like to make vague, arbitrary predictions like this to stir up publicity. It's like when "experts" make claims that we'll have robot servents by 2012. It's meaningless.
If a species of monkeys, for whatever reason, began walking on their hind legs, then they would have a greater chance of reproducing if that somehow provided a survival advantage. Soon, the monkeys that walked better than the others would have a higher survival rate, and so on and so on until the walking process was refined throughout the ages.
One definition of evolution is the process of retaining the characteristics that ensure a greater chance of survival and reproduction.
Happy to burst your bubble. I voted for Nader '00. As a matter of fact...so did Moore.
What does Fair Use have to do with going online to download someone's copyrighted material? If you wanted to make a backup of your copy, you'd do it on your computer.
How can you possibly be up in arms over a GPL license violation yet be supportive of copyright violation on P2P networks? Seems like a double standard to think license violation is okay and "justified" in one instance but not in another. Just askin'.
This is Slashdot, so Microsoft is bad and Linux is good.
After all, using the more widely-supported system that has the applications they need is wrong--an educational system should take a chance on something less-supported with fewer apps, 'lest the college dorm room Slashdotters accuse them of teaching groupthink! Education is more about following ideals rather than getting the job done.
I think someone's anti-"M$" blinders are on...
Windows is the more common system, and there are more applications, particularly educational applications. More hardware is supported, and people have more experience with Windows.
I fail to see why it's so surprising the school went to Windows. I have yet to come across a high school or college that wasn't this way.
...SCO who?