No, I wouldn't. I'd feel bad in general, having just lost a loved one or friend... but I wouldn't be blaming the protest. If anything, I'd be upset with the subway for not having some kind of barrier. What if you had a seizure and fell onto the tracks? Same trouble, but no third party to blame, there.
I've been harassed for opting out of the scanners several times, just for an anecdote in the other direction.
They generally make a big deal out of it, making me wait for minutes while they go find someone to do the pat down, big sighs while he puts on the rubber gloves, rough handling of my carry-ons (since I can't touch them), arguments about the safety of the scanners ("That sign over there sez they're safe, cain't you read?!"), and for extra punishment and delay, wipe-testing the carry-ons for explosives. Like if I were carrying explosives, I'd want to attract extra attention by asking to opt-out.
The wipe testing is standard. Not sure if you notice it, their gloves go in the same machine after the pat down. They do this with me even when otherwise being super professional and "lets get this shit done".
The rough treatment doesn't sound any different from normal either - look around some more. If they have to handle a bag, they are not happy about it in general.
Now, the guy pointing out the safety of the scanners? Well, he doesn't know any better. He believes the authority and thinks down on you for thinking otherwise. Perhaps he thinks you are paranoid, or are a know-it-all? I think that's just the kind of people you get into those jobs, and not a policy thing. (that question by the way is usually the one I answer with the "minimizing my radio exposure because I work around it a lot" answer, which in every single case I've used it (about 5) has been accepted immediately and with no stares or eye-rolling)
Could also just be the airports I tend to frequent. I'm usually in ATL, TPA, or LAX, and if not it's usually some rinky dink one like GRK.
Just because she was right doesn't mean she wasn't an asshole about the way she handled it. I'm speaking in generalities anyway. Of course "be nice" is not always appropriate. However, it usually is.
I'm pretty sure it's not illegal to lie in a casual conversation. Wrong, perhaps - that's a matter of morality, but not illegal.
Besides, is saying "I work around radio a lot, so I want to keep my exposures to a minimum" really that different than "I work around radio some, so I want to keep my exposures to a minimum" in any functional manner? The reason is the same ("I want to keep my exposures to a minimum") and you've only changed the context ("I work around radio MAGNITUDE") which is totally subjective anyway.
Now, if they were asking me what something they found on me was for, and I lied - that would be different.
What's your point? I wasn't defending any tyrants. All I said is being nice tends to make even the tyrants behave somewhat more civilly towards you.
Being an asshole never helps. Just draws ire and attention to yourself for no damn reason. You have a problem with the TSA? Don't be an asshole to the people on the ground level, because: 1: that isn't going to change shit, and 2: that's only going to make things worse for you (because being an asshole is stupid)
The only reason they would do something like that is because you were acting like a belligerent asshole. For some reason, your post explains to me by this very logic why you would come to such a conclusion.
and that if the government will start doing so we will need to deploy networks with a less centralized topology
Shortly followed up with them actively jamming. Believe me, they won't have the power restrictions the rest of us have, so there would be no way to get through that jamming.
Because I don't feel the need to withhold information, and because saying "a lot" instead of "occasionally" makes me feel more important. It's not a lie, really, it's an exaggeration (that operates on a part that doesn't really matter, the real answer is "because I want to limit my exposure" and the rest is just context that, while is not necessary, I feel is rude to not supply. Hate them all you want, they are people and deserve a measure of courtesy)
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What? That doesn't make any sense, unless things are JUST right and you're getting a reflection from the car.
Frequencies near the blocks will be attenuated.
Clearly you're not a redneck.
I've helped tear out a wall that had at least 20 layers of wallpaper on it...
Please ignore this ignorant shitstain. These fools give the rest of us a bad name.
Since probably most people here have no idea what multimode is:
Think echoes or reverberation, but for radio waves.
I'm pretty sure PETA didn't matter to the former Soviet Union.
Indeed. That's a shitload of uranium.
You all seem to be mistaking courtesy with compliance.
I'm hardly a sycophant. I'd like to kindly ask you to go fuck off.
No, I wouldn't. I'd feel bad in general, having just lost a loved one or friend... but I wouldn't be blaming the protest. If anything, I'd be upset with the subway for not having some kind of barrier. What if you had a seizure and fell onto the tracks? Same trouble, but no third party to blame, there.
I've been harassed for opting out of the scanners several times, just for an anecdote in the other direction.
They generally make a big deal out of it, making me wait for minutes while they go find someone to do the pat down, big sighs while he puts on the rubber gloves, rough handling of my carry-ons (since I can't touch them), arguments about the safety of the scanners ("That sign over there sez they're safe, cain't you read?!"), and for extra punishment and delay, wipe-testing the carry-ons for explosives. Like if I were carrying explosives, I'd want to attract extra attention by asking to opt-out.
The wipe testing is standard. Not sure if you notice it, their gloves go in the same machine after the pat down. They do this with me even when otherwise being super professional and "lets get this shit done".
The rough treatment doesn't sound any different from normal either - look around some more. If they have to handle a bag, they are not happy about it in general.
Now, the guy pointing out the safety of the scanners? Well, he doesn't know any better. He believes the authority and thinks down on you for thinking otherwise. Perhaps he thinks you are paranoid, or are a know-it-all? I think that's just the kind of people you get into those jobs, and not a policy thing. (that question by the way is usually the one I answer with the "minimizing my radio exposure because I work around it a lot" answer, which in every single case I've used it (about 5) has been accepted immediately and with no stares or eye-rolling)
Could also just be the airports I tend to frequent. I'm usually in ATL, TPA, or LAX, and if not it's usually some rinky dink one like GRK.
Just because she was right doesn't mean she wasn't an asshole about the way she handled it. I'm speaking in generalities anyway. Of course "be nice" is not always appropriate. However, it usually is.
I love your world view; it must be a nice and scary place in there. Not everyone is a jaded antisocial.
I'm pretty sure it's not illegal to lie in a casual conversation. Wrong, perhaps - that's a matter of morality, but not illegal.
Besides, is saying "I work around radio a lot, so I want to keep my exposures to a minimum" really that different than "I work around radio some, so I want to keep my exposures to a minimum" in any functional manner? The reason is the same ("I want to keep my exposures to a minimum") and you've only changed the context ("I work around radio MAGNITUDE") which is totally subjective anyway.
Now, if they were asking me what something they found on me was for, and I lied - that would be different.
What's your point? I wasn't defending any tyrants. All I said is being nice tends to make even the tyrants behave somewhat more civilly towards you.
Being an asshole never helps. Just draws ire and attention to yourself for no damn reason. You have a problem with the TSA? Don't be an asshole to the people on the ground level, because: 1: that isn't going to change shit, and 2: that's only going to make things worse for you (because being an asshole is stupid)
The only reason they would do something like that is because you were acting like a belligerent asshole. For some reason, your post explains to me by this very logic why you would come to such a conclusion.
Hell they already have abused it. Witness the whole BART fiasco we are talking about.
and that if the government will start doing so we will need to deploy networks with a less centralized topology
Shortly followed up with them actively jamming. Believe me, they won't have the power restrictions the rest of us have, so there would be no way to get through that jamming.
Hell did you see that doing so cut off police, fire, and medical response radio as well? What the hell, BART!?
Unless you are protecting a military asset, keep your hands off the jammer / wire-cutters. Period.
Find another solution.
Gah! I'm a retard! I meant Atlantic. Hurr.
Wow, you're right. I have no idea why I thought they were on the pacific side.
Even still, it would be amusing to see them try to make it that far.
TFS said forced. 20 people have told me this, I don't need more to do so. Thanks, though.
Which is why you should give them the same courtesy you should be giving any other person, even if you hate them.
It's amazing what a little courtesy can do. If money makes the world go 'round, then courtesy is the grease on the axle.
Because I don't feel the need to withhold information, and because saying "a lot" instead of "occasionally" makes me feel more important. It's not a lie, really, it's an exaggeration (that operates on a part that doesn't really matter, the real answer is "because I want to limit my exposure" and the rest is just context that, while is not necessary, I feel is rude to not supply. Hate them all you want, they are people and deserve a measure of courtesy)