What does any of this have to do with servers though? These concerns should be the last thing on your list of factors to consider, when talking about servers.
I've tried to find some auto parts places before, and Google Maps didn't differentiate the local warehouses from actual places of business.
Fortunately I was intelligent enough to realize that what looks like a warehouse and doesn't have much parking (and tons of truck docks) was in fact a warehouse, and not your local NAPA parts store...
I thought one of the primary draws of puppy is it was a "live" system - no need to install.
I haven't used it in at least that long, myself - so I couldn't tell you if that was changed. To be honest I couldn't tell you what it looked like! I used puppy for a very short while. For me, DSL replaced it (and even then I didn't use that long, preferring instead to just install a "normal" distro). I've used what feels like dozens of distros and I keep landing back at either Debian or CentOS even for my desktop. They don't have that big a footprint unless you install everything:)
You can rebuild packages with patches you want to include, and that knowledge transfers to Ubuntu as well. I'd look into it if only to understand how it might be done - you never know when you need to tweak/patch something and don't want to "break" dependencies or the like.
It was a few years ago, but I remember one particularly fun instance: to shave a few seconds off of boot time, they made a change that caused PS/2 and AT keyboards to not function.
I'd use Gentoo if the USE flags were better documented (eg "why you would use this" is missing. It tells you what they do, but not why that might matter)
What window manager were you using? There's usually a way to change this key assignment in a "control center" item somewhere - or at least under.config or the like in your home directory. Depends on the window manager of course.
I usually use Super (windows key) as I've yet to ever see a program use Super+mousebutton for anything. In my case, Blender likes alt+clickdrag. I never end up using it though, clicking and dragging on the titlebar is so strongly ingrained into my habits that I just... never think to do it differently.
It would have been stupid easy: aptitude install xubuntu-desktop
That's it. Bam. Next login, chose XFCE for your session. You'd still have all the extra software, but you could remove the 'ubuntu-desktop' metapackage and lots of that would likely go away. Or you could leave it and just not run it - up to you, disk space is cheap.
Hell, apt-changelog (or is it apt-listchanges? or apt-bugs? hmm) makes it difficult to break yourself during an upgrade. The updater shows you the changelog and any outstanding bugs before proceeding!
What I've never understood though is why one would want to use Ubuntu over straight-up debian on servers (or Fedora over RH/CentOS). I do understand you get newer package versions, but outside of the touchy-feely eye-candy desktop stuff, the difference isn't that wide, and frankly debian stable is stable in every meaning of the word.
The NSA doesn't have to have access to the servers if all network traffic is also sent into the NSA's special rack...
Back when I worked in a hosting center the FBI had a little group of machines that were theirs and we were hands-off. Our network admin would occasionally get requests to have traffic to/from particular IPs routed to their "playpen" and he would comply - while this meant they got everything they wanted, nobody was granted any access to someone's server.
Maybe I'm just good at leaving enough attention where it should be that I notice things, even while somewhat focused on something.
Maybe it's all that gaming or simulating. While you're focused on the now etc, you have to maintain situational awareness and be alert for changes/danger. Or maybe it's that I respect dangerous things and realize that piloting a 3000lb machine is dangerous and afford the attention it deserves, even when divided. It takes priority.
I don't have a real gear selector. It's a CVT, and park is a button that does not reside on the 'stick' (that only serves to select drive, neutral, or reverse)
Radios in general are excluded from such things - provided they don't have a keypad on the microphone. Police probably don't have that gotcha though. I have seen an officer (trying) using the computer in motion before. He was... having trouble maintaining his lane. In general though yes, they will wait until they are stopped or in the worst case call in and check it over the radio.
... and why should one stop their engine unnecessarily? Waste of gas and wear on the starter - and a complete fucking waste of time when all you need to do is push 3 buttons (route, address book, destination).
That said I do have a problem with people texting, browsing the web (seriously, I've seen it) or perhaps typing a GPS destination in by hand. But selecting a saved destination? Would you argue that people should pull over and stop the engine to change radio station? Because that's the same level of distraction.
I just don't understand how people have such tunnel vision. I have no problem noticing movement or light changes (or indeed anything changing around me in a somewhat mast manner) even when I'm looking down by my feet. How do they not notice movement? Are my eyes unusual? When it comes to movement and other sudden changes (eg light change) I have an effective field of view slightly beyond 180 degrees.... and I do wear glasses so that's not an excuse.
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I think I just threw up a little bit in my mouth.
What does any of this have to do with servers though? These concerns should be the last thing on your list of factors to consider, when talking about servers.
So why haven't they erected a barricade and a "road closed" sign? Hell a "your map is 100 years out of date" sign under that would be hilarious.
I've tried to find some auto parts places before, and Google Maps didn't differentiate the local warehouses from actual places of business.
Fortunately I was intelligent enough to realize that what looks like a warehouse and doesn't have much parking (and tons of truck docks) was in fact a warehouse, and not your local NAPA parts store...
Lets ignore "The Terrorists" for a moment - this should be secured even just to prevent FOD!
I'd prefer it if RANDOM_ASSHAT's antenna decoration doesn't fall off and get sucked into the engine of the plane I'm going to be in later that day.
I thought one of the primary draws of puppy is it was a "live" system - no need to install.
I haven't used it in at least that long, myself - so I couldn't tell you if that was changed. To be honest I couldn't tell you what it looked like! I used puppy for a very short while. For me, DSL replaced it (and even then I didn't use that long, preferring instead to just install a "normal" distro). I've used what feels like dozens of distros and I keep landing back at either Debian or CentOS even for my desktop. They don't have that big a footprint unless you install everything :)
You can rebuild packages with patches you want to include, and that knowledge transfers to Ubuntu as well. I'd look into it if only to understand how it might be done - you never know when you need to tweak/patch something and don't want to "break" dependencies or the like.
Oh I definitely see the draw when you're talking about someone's desktop, laptop, workstation etc - I'm speaking strictly of servers.
They do make some boneheaded decisions though.
It was a few years ago, but I remember one particularly fun instance: to shave a few seconds off of boot time, they made a change that caused PS/2 and AT keyboards to not function.
Read that again. Think about it.
I'd use Gentoo if the USE flags were better documented (eg "why you would use this" is missing. It tells you what they do, but not why that might matter)
What window manager were you using? There's usually a way to change this key assignment in a "control center" item somewhere - or at least under .config or the like in your home directory. Depends on the window manager of course.
I usually use Super (windows key) as I've yet to ever see a program use Super+mousebutton for anything. In my case, Blender likes alt+clickdrag. I never end up using it though, clicking and dragging on the titlebar is so strongly ingrained into my habits that I just... never think to do it differently.
What kthreadd says. Also, remember that it's based off of Debian. Debian stable (and testing) does not use bleeding-edge items. Go read.
It would have been stupid easy: aptitude install xubuntu-desktop
That's it. Bam. Next login, chose XFCE for your session. You'd still have all the extra software, but you could remove the 'ubuntu-desktop' metapackage and lots of that would likely go away. Or you could leave it and just not run it - up to you, disk space is cheap.
Hell, apt-changelog (or is it apt-listchanges? or apt-bugs? hmm) makes it difficult to break yourself during an upgrade. The updater shows you the changelog and any outstanding bugs before proceeding!
What I've never understood though is why one would want to use Ubuntu over straight-up debian on servers (or Fedora over RH/CentOS). I do understand you get newer package versions, but outside of the touchy-feely eye-candy desktop stuff, the difference isn't that wide, and frankly debian stable is stable in every meaning of the word.
The NSA doesn't have to have access to the servers if all network traffic is also sent into the NSA's special rack...
Back when I worked in a hosting center the FBI had a little group of machines that were theirs and we were hands-off. Our network admin would occasionally get requests to have traffic to/from particular IPs routed to their "playpen" and he would comply - while this meant they got everything they wanted, nobody was granted any access to someone's server.
Consider that the entire Kingdom can fit inside the state of Texas...
It's not good, but it's still better.
My driving record and the observation of others disagrees.
Maybe I'm just good at leaving enough attention where it should be that I notice things, even while somewhat focused on something.
Maybe it's all that gaming or simulating. While you're focused on the now etc, you have to maintain situational awareness and be alert for changes/danger. Or maybe it's that I respect dangerous things and realize that piloting a 3000lb machine is dangerous and afford the attention it deserves, even when divided. It takes priority.
I don't have a real gear selector. It's a CVT, and park is a button that does not reside on the 'stick' (that only serves to select drive, neutral, or reverse)
Hey, I remember you! I think I flipped you off one day when you took 10 seconds to start moving after the car in front of you rolled off.
Radios in general are excluded from such things - provided they don't have a keypad on the microphone. Police probably don't have that gotcha though. I have seen an officer (trying) using the computer in motion before. He was... having trouble maintaining his lane. In general though yes, they will wait until they are stopped or in the worst case call in and check it over the radio.
... and why should one stop their engine unnecessarily? Waste of gas and wear on the starter - and a complete fucking waste of time when all you need to do is push 3 buttons (route, address book, destination).
That said I do have a problem with people texting, browsing the web (seriously, I've seen it) or perhaps typing a GPS destination in by hand. But selecting a saved destination? Would you argue that people should pull over and stop the engine to change radio station? Because that's the same level of distraction.
I just don't understand how people have such tunnel vision. I have no problem noticing movement or light changes (or indeed anything changing around me in a somewhat mast manner) even when I'm looking down by my feet. How do they not notice movement? Are my eyes unusual? When it comes to movement and other sudden changes (eg light change) I have an effective field of view slightly beyond 180 degrees. ... and I do wear glasses so that's not an excuse.